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Malar HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2008.01.21 19:07:00 - [181] Well, i for one would be curious how many people would sign up for the tournament, if there would be no cap. As for now, im not sure how many of those big names would have wanted to sign up at all. While i doubt there would be 80, im also quite sure that there are more than 5-6. I mean people might not know yet that they would enter, but if say the registration would have been open for the original 2 weeks without a cap, some might easily have gotten the idea of assembling a team and registering for the tournament. As for now, the only clue we've got is the backup list which only has 2 known entries. CCP could tell how many there are in total tho. I dont think it is a secret. Talking about time constraints. 80 teams would mean some 720 matches in a 8 group system. On the other hand, if you expand it to 16 groups, its only 320 matches. If you drop the group idea, then it can be made in less than 240 (which would equal 48 teams in 8 groups) Additionally, if you take say 48 teams, but distribute them into 16 groups, then you get 96 matches, which is nice, considering that 40 teams in 8 groups take 160 to finish. There would be quite a lot of ways to accomodate more people, then again it would require some serious replanning of schedules and groupings for which it might be too late for now. Still, you can't say it is impossible, as that aint true. --------------------------------------------- Comments in this post are mine and mine only
Shandas Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2008.01.21 19:36:00 - [182] Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 Originally by: Shandas Edited by: Shandas on 21/01/2008 17:23:59 Erm, why not expand the field to 80 or whatever. what makes you sure that there are another 40 alliaces are willing to take place in this tourney? From what i have seen it more looks like 3-5 got left out/missed to sign in and make a big rumble on the forums. Also when you expand the slots by another 40 this tourney would take twice as long, this would lead to problems regarding the RL of the experts and the pilots which participate. I did say 80 or whatever, I never said it has to be 80 or 60 or any other number. I was just tossing out an idea. I'm not in an alliance, I just like watching the matches and seeing the out come.
Gyro DuAquin1 Tri Optimum Ev0ke	Posted - 2008.01.21 22:52:00 - [183] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk i can list more than 5 that intended to compete without even thinking about it, so there's probably at least 15 more that'd compete given the chance, probly a bunch more tbh axiom empire hun reloaded bob goonswarm aaa cruel intentions whatever group waywatcher was talking about and what kept them away from participating is nothing mroe then signing up in time. I cant see that smaller alliaces would have started such a rumble in da forums when they wouldnt have made it. When we wouldnt be listed we prolly would end up with "oops" and thats about it.
maGz The Hoodie Mafia Cosa Nostra.	Posted - 2008.01.21 23:04:00 - [184] Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk i can list more than 5 that intended to compete without even thinking about it, so there's probably at least 15 more that'd compete given the chance, probly a bunch more tbh axiom empire hun reloaded bob goonswarm aaa cruel intentions whatever group waywatcher was talking about and what kept them away from participating is nothing mroe then signing up in time. I cant see that smaller alliaces would have started such a rumble in da forums when they wouldnt have made it. When we wouldnt be listed we prolly would end up with "oops" and thats about it. Realise that they are the center of the universe, hence why obviously they should have reserved spots, they should receive 1 billion isk for participation, they get to change ships should their setup not be ideal for whatever setup they're fighting and last, but not least, should they lose they obviously get a second chance as they are the center of the universe... ____________
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.22 00:15:00 - [185] Stop trolling magz ;P Sure everyone missing from the tournament can blame themselves and people can point this out til they're blue in the face. Doesn't change the fact that the tournament would be better if the teams that have previously shown themselves to be among the best were participating again, especially previous champions. I mean I'd really like to have Burn Eden in again, but they don't want to compete so fair enough, no big deal. But to be missing from the tournament top-notch teams like Cruel Intentions, Band of Brothers and HUN Reloaded that actually want to compete is pretty weak. Would be pretty cool if some no-name team won, so by all means great to have them competing but would be epic if they won after beating the champions of previous tourneys Epic yes pls. http://eve.klaki.net/
XxAngelxX Amarr The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.22 01:44:00 - [186] Im gonna love watching it when one of these small **** alliances kicks your ass :D Just like I loved the SF v BoB match --------------------------------------
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.01.22 04:02:00 - [187] Originally by: XxAngelxX Im gonna love watching it when one of these small **** alliances kicks your ass :D Just like I loved the SF v BoB match You miss are an idiot... Thats not the point. Yes Green Alliance vs IAC might be an epic upset. Or whatever. But what we want is to see BoB vs MC, Goons vs Axiom, -A- vs Hun however this will not happen 8(, at least not while the present authorities are in charge. No one gives a damn about these small fries acting tough, sure it would be awesome to see them upset the big guys! Like you said the SF vs BoB fight was awesome, but there needs to be the big guys to have upsets! Green vs When Fat Kids Attack, is a fight noone cares about! I cant believe you guys still dont understand this. Once again I volunteer my time to make a bracket for all teams that wish to participate. This way all you have to do is enforce the rules. Everyone can participate, epic fights, noone loses, until they lose a fight that is 8). So make it happen or allow me to make it happen for you. WildCat
QwaarJet Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.01.22 05:03:00 - [188] Edited by: QwaarJet on 22/01/2008 05:03:01 Why is it I always end up agreeing with you, Wildcat? Also, the example of the SF VS BoB match wasn't exactly small time VS Big time. Star Fraction had a considerable tournament pedigree going into that match, and it wasn't too difficult to imagine a Star Fraction victory.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.22 05:10:00 - [189] I imagine by now the devs involved all hate your guts, so you're wasting your time (and mine reading it) repeatedly offering to do their job for them. Oh and fatty could be pretty tough, Shin Ra and Cosmic Fusion in there, I don't know anything about Green Alliance ;d except that if they beat me i'll be sad. Cult of War were pretty much complete nobodies when IAC lost to them, their alliance was formed for the tourney as i recall, and that was pretty epic. I think their team had moved to Atlas Alliance for the most recent tournament. <3 Angel, i'm totally going to laugh at you lots when you lose to some crap team like MC http://eve.klaki.net/
XxAngelxX Amarr The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.22 08:49:00 - [190] Originally by: DHB WildCat Originally by: XxAngelxX Im gonna love watching it when one of these small **** alliances kicks your ass :D Just like I loved the SF v BoB match You miss are an idiot... Thats not the point. Yes Green Alliance vs IAC might be an epic upset. Or whatever. But what we want is to see BoB vs MC, Goons vs Axiom, -A- vs Hun however this will not happen 8(, at least not while the present authorities are in charge. No one gives a damn about these small fries acting tough, sure it would be awesome to see them upset the big guys! Like you said the SF vs BoB fight was awesome, but there needs to be the big guys to have upsets! Green vs When Fat Kids Attack, is a fight noone cares about! I cant believe you guys still dont understand this. Once again I volunteer my time to make a bracket for all teams that wish to participate. This way all you have to do is enforce the rules. Everyone can participate, epic fights, noone loses, until they lose a fight that is 8). So make it happen or allow me to make it happen for you. WildCat You Mr, take me (and possibly other things) far too seriously. --------------------------------------
Zenst Gallente Omniscient Order Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.22 10:33:00 - [191] Originally by: XxAngelxX Originally by: DHB WildCat Originally by: XxAngelxX Im gonna love watching it when one of these small **** alliances kicks your ass :D Just like I loved the SF v BoB match You miss are an idiot... Thats not the point. Yes Green Alliance vs IAC might be an epic upset. Or whatever. But what we want is to see BoB vs MC, Goons vs Axiom, -A- vs Hun however this will not happen 8(, at least not while the present authorities are in charge. No one gives a damn about these small fries acting tough, sure it would be awesome to see them upset the big guys! Like you said the SF vs BoB fight was awesome, but there needs to be the big guys to have upsets! Green vs When Fat Kids Attack, is a fight noone cares about! I cant believe you guys still dont understand this. Once again I volunteer my time to make a bracket for all teams that wish to participate. This way all you have to do is enforce the rules. Everyone can participate, epic fights, noone loses, until they lose a fight that is 8). So make it happen or allow me to make it happen for you. WildCat You Mr, take me (and possibly other things) far too seriously. I dont believe he takes you seriously at all for a second; But there again he does raise equaly valid points that you have to just agree with him in the end ;p.
XxAngelxX Amarr The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.22 12:07:00 - [192] Oh yes I completely agree that the top 3 teams should have first option etc etc. I was merely winding Tyrrax up with my comment. --------------------------------------
maGz The Hoodie Mafia Cosa Nostra.	Posted - 2008.01.22 12:51:00 - [193] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Stop trolling magz ;P Sure everyone missing from the tournament can blame themselves and people can point this out til they're blue in the face. Doesn't change the fact that the tournament would be better if the teams that have previously shown themselves to be among the best were participating again, especially previous champions. I mean I'd really like to have Burn Eden in again, but they don't want to compete so fair enough, no big deal. But to be missing from the tournament top-notch teams like Cruel Intentions, Band of Brothers and HUN Reloaded that actually want to compete is pretty weak. Would be pretty cool if some no-name team won, so by all means great to have them competing but would be epic if they won after beating the champions of previous tourneys Epic yes pls. But but... Ok I'll make a proper post then . I agree that the alliance tournament would probably be in some way more interesting if you had the likes of CI, BoB, Huns et al participating. However I personally think it's bs when they obviously missed the sign ups and now think it's ok to slack off Nova, to slack off the organisation of the tournament and to slack off the participating alliances, simply because they didn't get in (keep in mind, I do support that last years winners should have a reserved spot in the tournament). We would probably be seeing the same posts from BE regardless, however I'm almost willing to bet that we wouldn't hear anything from CI, BoB et al if they had signed up in time. They would probably troll my whine threads about not being in the alliance tournament as well. So while we can agree that it could have been fun to have the abovementioned teams in the alliance tournament, I cannot take their concerns serious as it's a clear case of them just being arrogant about the whole thing and when things don't go their way, it's everyone else but themselves that is to blame. ____________
MortyM Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.22 13:32:00 - [194] Originally by: maGz But but... Ok I'll make a proper post then . I agree that the alliance tournament would probably be in some way more interesting if you had the likes of CI, BoB, Huns et al participating. However I personally think it's bs when they obviously missed the sign ups and now think it's ok to slack off Nova, to slack off the organisation of the tournament and to slack off the participating alliances, simply because they didn't get in (keep in mind, I do support that last years winners should have a reserved spot in the tournament). We would probably be seeing the same posts from BE regardless, however I'm almost willing to bet that we wouldn't hear anything from CI, BoB et al if they had signed up in time. They would probably troll my whine threads about not being in the alliance tournament as well. So while we can agree that it could have been fun to have the abovementioned teams in the alliance tournament, I cannot take their concerns serious as it's a clear case of them just being arrogant about the whole thing and when things don't go their way, it's everyone else but themselves that is to blame. Who ******* cares who is to blame. We all want the same thing so why flame/troll/whine at each other instead of at the people who keep us from getting what we all want. It really doesn't matter how we got to where we are now, what matters is how we get from where we are now to where we want to be. But sadly that doesn't seem to be happening anyway since the people organizing this tournament are pretty strong headed and seem more interested in sticking to the rules then in a fun tournament.
Mah Kraah Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.01.22 15:19:00 - [195] stop blaming and trolling fact is that the current list contradict the spirit and purpose of the event u can not find the best pvp team if half of the contenders are left out. i welcome the fact that the new rules allows less rich allys to enter i also understand that u cant pull this event off within a reasonable amount of time if u let everyone in. the obvious solution is to have a qualification round it will sort out the "bad" teams and will finaly cut numbers down to the practicable 40 for the 2 weekend main event. teams who have formaly won a tourney can be set into the final 40 by default or any other criteria the comunity see fit. i only think that not more than 10 teams should be automaticly qualified. decission on who take part and who not has to be based on pvp and not on how quik u can apply. this will allow everyone to take part or at least give him a chance to proov that he is worth of taking part. noone will be in coz hes in a big alliance and noone will be left out coz he is not. as it stands now , the winner wont be pvp champion , the team will be the tourney winner and nothing else. the title will be meaningless. luckey enough to sing up fast enough and always flawed by the statement: u would have had no chance if team y and x would have been in. the winner of the tourney dont want this , the ppl left out dont want this, the comunity dont want this. we dont need the title of a PvP champion if the owner had no chance to proov that he is worth to have it. to avoid missunderstandings, my team IS listed
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.22 15:19:00 - [196] Well the alliances that feel under prejudice could join up and make a parellel championship to happen at exact same time, check if they have any lucky bastard with a good enough connection to upload a stream. IF you get more audience you proved who was right. (ps i know that is not easy to do) ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Waywatcher 0utbreak	Posted - 2008.01.23 01:20:00 - [197] Originally by: maGz Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Stop trolling magz ;P Sure everyone missing from the tournament can blame themselves and people can point this out til they're blue in the face. Doesn't change the fact that the tournament would be better if the teams that have previously shown themselves to be among the best were participating again, especially previous champions. I mean I'd really like to have Burn Eden in again, but they don't want to compete so fair enough, no big deal. But to be missing from the tournament top-notch teams like Cruel Intentions, Band of Brothers and HUN Reloaded that actually want to compete is pretty weak. Would be pretty cool if some no-name team won, so by all means great to have them competing but would be epic if they won after beating the champions of previous tourneys Epic yes pls. But but... Ok I'll make a proper post then . I agree that the alliance tournament would probably be in some way more interesting if you had the likes of CI, BoB, Huns et al participating. However I personally think it's bs when they obviously missed the sign ups and now think it's ok to slack off Nova, to slack off the organisation of the tournament and to slack off the participating alliances, simply because they didn't get in (keep in mind, I do support that last years winners should have a reserved spot in the tournament). We would probably be seeing the same posts from BE regardless, however I'm almost willing to bet that we wouldn't hear anything from CI, BoB et al if they had signed up in time. They would probably troll my whine threads about not being in the alliance tournament as well. So while we can agree that it could have been fun to have the abovementioned teams in the alliance tournament, I cannot take their concerns serious as it's a clear case of them just being arrogant about the whole thing and when things don't go their way, it's everyone else but themselves that is to blame. I just dont get you sometimes, in-game your intelligent and sensible yet as soon as you hit the forums you turn into a trolling idiot. Of course people who are in have nothing to complain about and of course people who didnt get in are going to blame Nova (he orginises it). The fact is that people have brought up good points, and your answer too it all is "its all your fault for not signing in time" then sticking your fingers in your ears and singing. I accept that all the alliances that didnt sign up in time are at fault too some point but there is other factors and of course people are going to point those out.
Panteroid The Hoodie Mafia Cosa Nostra.	Posted - 2008.01.23 02:08:00 - [198] Originally by: Waywatcher I just dont get you sometimes, in-game your intelligent and sensible yet as soon as you hit the forums you turn into a trolling idiot. That is like the pot calling the kettle black there... Was going to stay out of this one.. but couldn't resist that one. (insert way/edna flame here)
Waywatcher 0utbreak	Posted - 2008.01.23 02:14:00 - [199] Hmmmm, let me read my posts back too myself............................. yeah i just see me making valid points and then someone from your corp trolling.
maGz The Hoodie Mafia Cosa Nostra.	Posted - 2008.01.23 08:20:00 - [200] Originally by: Waywatcher Originally by: maGz Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Stop trolling magz ;P Sure everyone missing from the tournament can blame themselves and people can point this out til they're blue in the face. Doesn't change the fact that the tournament would be better if the teams that have previously shown themselves to be among the best were participating again, especially previous champions. I mean I'd really like to have Burn Eden in again, but they don't want to compete so fair enough, no big deal. But to be missing from the tournament top-notch teams like Cruel Intentions, Band of Brothers and HUN Reloaded that actually want to compete is pretty weak. Would be pretty cool if some no-name team won, so by all means great to have them competing but would be epic if they won after beating the champions of previous tourneys Epic yes pls. But but... Ok I'll make a proper post then . I agree that the alliance tournament would probably be in some way more interesting if you had the likes of CI, BoB, Huns et al participating. However I personally think it's bs when they obviously missed the sign ups and now think it's ok to slack off Nova, to slack off the organisation of the tournament and to slack off the participating alliances, simply because they didn't get in (keep in mind, I do support that last years winners should have a reserved spot in the tournament). We would probably be seeing the same posts from BE regardless, however I'm almost willing to bet that we wouldn't hear anything from CI, BoB et al if they had signed up in time. They would probably troll my whine threads about not being in the alliance tournament as well. So while we can agree that it could have been fun to have the abovementioned teams in the alliance tournament, I cannot take their concerns serious as it's a clear case of them just being arrogant about the whole thing and when things don't go their way, it's everyone else but themselves that is to blame. I just dont get you sometimes, in-game your intelligent and sensible yet as soon as you hit the forums you turn into a trolling idiot. Of course people who are in have nothing to complain about and of course people who didnt get in are going to blame Nova (he orginises it). The fact is that people have brought up good points, and your answer too it all is "its all your fault for not signing in time" then sticking your fingers in your ears and singing. I accept that all the alliances that didnt sign up in time are at fault too some point but there is other factors and of course people are going to point those out. The only valid points I've heard so far is a reserved spot for previous winners, higher cap for the following tournaments and perhaps a seeding system. Rest have just been complaints, complaints and complaints. If you actually read my posts, I agree that it could have been fun with CI, BoB & Huns in the alliance. I agree that this tournament is definately going to be different due to the lack of abovementioned corps. And yes - some things could have been done differently/better by the organising party however in the great whole I still believe they've done what could be expected of them. While you may not agree with these statements - it can hardly be classified as trolling (or in other words, I don't resolve to calling you a trolling idiot just because I don't agree with what you're writing albeit I do make ironic remarks, however I sure hope we both possess the intellect to realise that such comments are nothing more but ironic). So to recap as in an earlier post of mine: We'll agree to disagree PS. So that's why you convoed me a month ago... ____________
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.23 11:34:00 - [201] On my point of view . As spectator. The championship is all bout seeing big names struggle in a confined arena. Otherwise its like making world cup without Brasil, Argentina or any Europe countries. And fill the slots with north America, China, Viatnam and pacific islands... Who the hell would want to watch that? Sorry to the lesser alliances, but to the point of view of a spectator you are less important! For myself I would not admit entrance of alliances less than 6 month old, with rare exceptions alliances formed just to the tournament are not what draw spectators. Its only logical that anyone organizing such a championship would before anything else be sure to have the best pvpers of eve on it. At least ALL the previous champions!! I personally hate bob, but they deserve being on all championships, simply because they won 3 in a row! And goons? One of the most unique oriented, larger and maybe the most powerful alliance currently? Not having them , bob, AAA etc means this is NOTHING as an New Eden Alliances Championship. Championship already starting with a fiasco like that is certainly not high in my expectations.... ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Eol Galathil Gallente The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2008.01.23 12:14:00 - [202] tl, dr If HUN don't get to compete, it would only be fitting for them to be given an exhibition match against whoever happens to win.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.23 15:09:00 - [203] Originally by: Kagura Nikon On my point of view . As spectator. The championship is all bout seeing big names struggle in a confined arena. Otherwise its like making world cup without Brasil, Argentina or any Europe countries. And fill the slots with north America, China, Viatnam and pacific islands... Who the hell would want to watch that? Are you saying the US World Cup team does not rule? Because I will fight you. But I totally agree with you. while last year's fights with alliances like Empire Research were amusing, frankly, I don't care about them. It is amusing to watch time to time. Much more so when it is no-name vs huge alliance. But when half the tournament is alliance no one has ever heard of a vs alliance no one has ever heard of b, that makes for a boring tournament. To sum up, the best part of the little guys is seeing them fight the big guys. Not to see nobodies duke it out to fight other nobodies. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
StevieSG	Posted - 2008.01.23 16:27:00 - [204] I've got it: They let everyone in.. We have 400 matches spanning about two months..I'm sure everyone has enough time to construct the same team for the weekends over two months? Yes? No, better idea.. We have a year long battle, run the same as a football tournie.. even worse. Okay wait.. They only let super-power teams in... new talented alliances can go away.. No... They only let new players in... screw the old regime.. No.. I've got it...! 40 teams, first come first serve and if you were somewhere else at the time of sign-ups , you know what?- Pick a team and support them as you would your own; the same as any sport. Better luck next time. All this stuff about hollow victory is ridiculous. I'd rather fight a team that really wanted to be there tbh. OMG ROFL KFC WTF http://www.eve-online.tv/default.aspx
Kou Rien	Posted - 2008.01.23 16:39:00 - [205] Originally by: But I totally agree with you. while last year's fights with alliances like Empire Research were amusing, frankly, I don't care about them. It is amusing to watch time to time. Much more so when it is no-name vs huge alliance. But when half the tournament is alliance no one has ever heard of a vs alliance no one has ever heard of b, that makes for a boring tournament. To sum up, the best part of the little guys is seeing them fight the big guys. Not to see nobodies duke it out to fight other nobodies. [/quote Never thought I'd agree with a Goon...but I do. @Steve: Oh and I suppose we should ignore any current politics in the game in favor of watching such noteworthy alliance as a few of the ones listed...considering I'd never even heard of several of them before this post. Don't get me wrong having new faces come into the tourney is fantastic, but the fact that old favs that were interested aren't in it doesn't make it a hollow victory but it definitely drops the interest level. And if you think I'm full of ****, just look at all the people that have posted here echoing that thought. I KNOW AXE wanted to be there; we were already getting people lined up that were interested. I'm about 99% certain BoB, and Goons wanted to be there. HUN has already given their position, and in the very least it doesn't make sense that the champions from the previous tourney aren't able to defend their title.
StevieSG	Posted - 2008.01.23 16:51:00 - [206] Edited by: StevieSG on 23/01/2008 16:52:07 As I'm beginning to say with anything- I'm convinced that forum threads like this one are in no way the place to change anything. The best you can do if you want in, is to get on that reserve list. And as for interest level all I can say is I'm sure this tourney will be the most interesting yet. The participants in these matches are always committed, talented and worth watching.And the ones that aren't make even better telly. I can't bloddy wait. OMG ROFL KFC WTF http://www.eve-online.tv/default.aspx
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.01.23 17:17:00 - [207] Ah Stevie you have shown just how ignorant and lazy the Staff is. Send me all the teams that want to participate and the structure you want to use, I will tweek it a bit but in the end, Ill make the damn thing work. I understand that an extra 2 days of thinking will make most of your heads explode, however there are a few intelligent pilots in eve that can and are willing to make this happen. Send me everything, Ill get you sorted and can just focus on trying to not make fools of yourselves on EVE TV. You have my e-mail in the database, you can send everything in game or through that. I will be awaiting it. WildCat
StevieSG	Posted - 2008.01.23 17:24:00 - [208] First you want nothing, now everything! You're bugging the wrong lady mister, although the thought of a continued correspondence does drive me crazy with longing. OMG ROFL KFC WTF http://www.eve-online.tv/default.aspx
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.01.23 17:30:00 - [209] Trust me the idea is the shorten the amount of matches even though we would add teams. OMG yes it is possible! Bothering the worng lady.... lmao, just send me all the applicants and Ill get you sorted. Its okay Ill hold all your hands and walk you through this, you'll make it, I promise. Children are so cute when they're ignorant. 8) WildCat
QwaarJet Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.01.23 17:30:00 - [210] Originally by: StevieSG I've got it: They let everyone in.. We have 400 matches spanning about two months..I'm sure everyone has enough time to construct the same team for the weekends over two months? Yes? No, better idea.. We have a year long battle, run the same as a football tournie.. even worse. Okay wait.. They only let super-power teams in... new talented alliances can go away.. No... They only let new players in... screw the old regime.. No.. I've got it...! 40 teams, first come first serve and if you were somewhere else at the time of sign-ups , you know what?- Pick a team and support them as you would your own; the same as any sport. Better luck next time. All this stuff about hollow victory is ridiculous. I'd rather fight a team that really wanted to be there tbh. Agreed about the hollow victory part. If me and the rest of the team were to win this year, we'd be as ecstatic about winning this as any other tournament tbh. And there are still a lot of top notch sides that are not well known. Look at HUN. Now, I knew them well but most didn't and I don't think many outside of myself and a few others even considered HUN as potential winners......so maybe that will happen with another team this year. And speaking of teams to support......what teams are you looking forward to seeing?

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