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Agent2 Holtze Amarr x13 When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.01.30 19:19:00 - [241] /me rolls in with a truck filled with box's of kleenex.. .. Tissues, anyone??? Posting and you!
Doppleganger Minmatar Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.02.01 05:25:00 - [242] Well I didn't pay attention to any tournament signup but I always thought the were open to all that wanted to get in.. not just 1st come 1st serve. Kinda reminds me when they use to seed the market with only a small amount of new skills after patches and the 1st ones that logged on bought them all up and resold them at ridiculous prices. I know FIX didn't plan on being in this tournament but if I knew there was going to be such a big demand and limited slots I would have made sure we were in and sold off our slot for big $$ profit. After all it seems that the tournament isn't open for all.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.02.01 20:31:00 - [243] Originally by: Doppleganger Well I didn't pay attention to any tournament signup but I always thought the were open to all that wanted to get in.. not just 1st come 1st serve. Kinda reminds me when they use to seed the market with only a small amount of new skills after patches and the 1st ones that logged on bought them all up and resold them at ridiculous prices. I know FIX didn't plan on being in this tournament but if I knew there was going to be such a big demand and limited slots I would have made sure we were in and sold off our slot for big $$ profit. After all it seems that the tournament isn't open for all. HUN Reloaded are first reserves and they're not paying. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Crax McGee Quam Singulari The Church.	Posted - 2008.02.01 22:26:00 - [244] Edited by: Crax McGee on 01/02/2008 22:26:30 LOL at u noobs saynig the small alliances dont deserve to be there.. KIA alliance is small, HUN won it last year and ill put money on Fat kids winning. Cosmic Fusion are an excellent pvp corp, very small but keep it tight with super pvpers like shin ra and mang0o. with x13 who are tactically perfect and prooved to the community when downing the 1st mom in empire. if fat kids dont win it, i wouldnt be at all suprised to c another small alliance win.
Zhecao Vai Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.02 10:05:00 - [245] Originally by: Crax McGee ill put money on Fat kids winning. Really? How much? I'll bet against you.
sonewiv	Posted - 2008.02.03 08:36:00 - [246] Ill bet you 109 ;)
Maximada Minmatar eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.02.03 20:39:00 - [247] eXceed. To win!!
Selene D'Celeste Caldari The D'Celeste Estate	Posted - 2008.02.03 23:49:00 - [248] Originally by: Zhecao Vai Really? How much? I'll bet against you. I'll also take that bet (against WFKA). It's sad that nothing has been done to allow these other alliances in. It's understandable that the 40-team limit was here this year since that was all that it took last year. But then when a large public outcry about the limit and the spots filling so fast, well, that obviously means this structure no longer works. It's also a month until the tournament, so what's stopping CCP from working with people to make a better tournament, then to just say "No, we'll redo it next year"? It sounds like laziness and pride. If it's a time issue, then fine, just say you don't have the man-hours to handle a reorganization this year. If it's pride about going back on an initial structure, that's ridiculous, since the entire point of this tournament and EVE itself is to work within a large community to do some cool internet spaceship stuff. This isn't a nerf where CCP has to stand firm against people who naturally hate their nice things being less nice, it's a public event being held for everyone's entertainment. CCP looks illogically stubborn, not professional, when it is so unyielding without reasons to back up their decisions.
Tigerfish Torpedo Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2008.02.04 15:19:00 - [249] Greetings all, Have been reading this thread now for a couple of hours, and just wanted to air my opinion, as so far, the only people that really comment are those from the big alliances such as BoB, Goons, IAC etc. I am the CEO/Exec of The Crimson Federation, one of the 40 alliances to be entered within this years tournament. Now, many of you haven't heard of me, nor my alliance. In fact, I'd be surprised if anyone here has, but that doesn't concern me. You see, for the last 3 years I've wanted to enter this tournament, but have never had the nerve to do so. My alliance isn't the strongest out there, nor the biggest, and I personally do not expect us to last long at all. If we win a single fight, I'll be celebrating a job well done, and knocking back the drinks with my fellow pilots. Does this make me less welcome to enter my team than anyone else? Do my guys not deserve the right to fly amongst the big boys of EVE? I mean, my billion isk is the same colour as the next executors, right? Each year I watch as many matches between big, well known, respected alliances drag on until time is called, with several ships just sitting there permi tanking, or chasing some little nano frig around the arena, and despite knowing that I couldn't do any better myself, do not consider this type of match 'interesting' on the merit of just the names of those involved. I am an unknown. In fact, my strategy at present is unusual and will either be epic win, or complete and total epic failure. Do I care? No. I'm joining in to try my best, against my peers, with pride in my alliance. For those who will flame this comment, I apologise for taking up space which could be better suited to one of the alliances that didn't manage to submit their isk as swiftly as I. Regards, Tiger, CRMSN.
Blue Broker	Posted - 2008.02.05 09:35:00 - [250] This is alliance tournament, but people really want to see "the alliances that matter" tournament. Next time only allow alliances at least half a year old(or more) who always kept their numbers above fifty. Gets rid of Tourney alliances and all the old ones that are just a shell and are used only for the tournament. Face it, we cheer for alliances, even the corps themselves don't matter. It's like sports, you like to see teams that have been around and represent something else than just a quick made-for-one-tourney team. First come first serve? Base alliance applications on member count, simple and assured high interest in viewing. (Or someone will make 4 man alliance named "in your face" next time)
Drago Musevenii Live and Let Die Unlimited	Posted - 2008.02.05 21:39:00 - [251] I have seen the Crimson Federation around quite a bit. They have lots of active guys. I look forward to watching them and other lesser-known teams in the tournament. Good luck in your first tournament, Tigerfish :)
Tigerfish Torpedo Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2008.02.06 13:08:00 - [252] Thank you :) We'll certainly need plenty of luck. Tiger.
Pettu Species 5618 Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.02.07 01:46:00 - [253] Edited by: Pettu on 07/02/2008 01:53:15 Edited by: Pettu on 07/02/2008 01:47:17 My option on all this... Originally by: CCP Mindstar Posting the list here, for great justice! Atlas Alliance - thumbs up Blade. - who? Blood Blind - thumbs up Brutally Clever Empire - thumbs up Cosa Nostra. - who? Cry Havoc. - who? Dawn of Transcendence - who? DeStInY. - who? Divine 0rder - who? Elemental Fury - who? Ethereal Dawn - nice Ev0ke - thumbs up Exa Nation - who? eXceed. - nice Green Alliance - who? Hydra Alliance - lol? Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate - go TT KIA Alliance - nice Mercenary Coalition - nice Molotov Coalition - ok Morsus Mihi - nice Nebula Rasa - who? Notoriety Alliance - who? Pandemic Legion - thumbs up Phalanx Alliance - ok R0ADKILL - don't break RONA Alliance - ok SMASH Alliance - ok Synchr0nicity - who? The Church. - thumbs up The Crimson Federation - who? The Five - Bob in disguise, so i guess nice The Fourth District - who? The Kadeshi - who? The Red Skull - ok The Star Fraction - nice Triumvirate. - nice United Legion - ok Ushra'Khan - ok When Fat Kids Attack - nice conclusion = too many "wtf who's that"'s ... I for one will only be giving this tourney a peek to see if the "who" alliances can actually field PVPers Other than that I'll only be watching the semis, the quarters and the final. Teams I would've wanted to see in; AAA, BoB, GoonSwarm, Hun Reloaded, Chaos Incarnate, Cruel Intentions, Cult of War, Intrepid Crossing, Legion of xXDEATHXx, Ka-Tet... Burn Eden and RA don't want to participate afaik. ---- Working on a new sig
QwaarJet Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.02.07 02:53:00 - [254] Pettu, I'm surprised you don't know who Nebula Rasa are, they were semi finalists in the 3rd tourney, and last 16 in the 4th.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.07 04:18:00 - [255] Originally by: Pettu Teams I would've wanted to see in; AAA, BoB, GoonSwarm, Hun Reloaded, Chaos Incarnate, Cruel Intentions, Cult of War, Intrepid Crossing, Legion of xXDEATHXx, Ka-Tet... Burn Eden and RA don't want to participate afaik. Terra Incognita apart from Burn Eden actually did want to participate, and I think Green Alliance is the original Cult of War team. http://eve.klaki.net/
Drago Musevenii War Crimes	Posted - 2008.02.07 10:04:00 - [256] Originally by: Pettu Edited by: Pettu on 07/02/2008 01:53:15 Edited by: Pettu on 07/02/2008 01:47:17 My option on all this... Originally by: CCP Mindstar Posting the list here, for great justice! Cry Havoc. - who? conclusion = too many "wtf who's that"'s ... I for one will only be giving this tourney a peek to see if the "who" alliances can actually field PVPers Other than that I'll only be watching the semis, the quarters and the final. I'm guessing the only reason you don't recognize cry havoc. is because the alliance is newly formed. It's Einherjar Rising. If you still don't know who they are you can probably see them when you watch the semi-finals. I expect to see them there.
Pettu Species 5618 Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.02.09 05:11:00 - [257] Originally by: QwaarJet Pettu, I'm surprised you don't know who Nebula Rasa are, they were semi finalists in the 3rd tourney, and last 16 in the 4th. I know who finished 2nd in the first alliance tournament, do you ? That name doesn't even ring a bell so I put "who?" behind the name, no hard feelings mkay? Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Terra Incognita apart from Burn Eden actually did want to participate, and I think Green Alliance is the original Cult of War team. yeah, in my mind I always think BE = BE, I always forget about their alliance . My bad. Never heard of Green Alliance before, hence the "who". If it's CoW they might do OK. Originally by: Drago Musevenii I'm guessing the only reason you don't recognize cry havoc. is because the alliance is newly formed. It's Einherjar Rising. If you still don't know who they are you can probably see them when you watch the semi-finals. I expect to see them there. DING! Fighting against their 20man spidertanking BS fleet was annoying as hell, they got their tactics right. Guess I'll have to change it to: Cry Havoc. - nice and also if INZi plays for Tri: Triumvitare - winners, no contest ---- Working on a new sig
Tigerfish Torpedo Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2008.02.09 12:40:00 - [258] The Crimson Federation - who? I'm quite happy being an unknown in this tournament. I have no 'epeen' nor ego to boast, and no one expects us to win every fight, which gives me no pressure. However, I am hoping you'll not be saying 'who?' when we apply for next years' tournament. Tiger
QwaarJet Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.02.09 12:43:00 - [259] Originally by: Tigerfish Torpedo The Crimson Federation - who? I'm quite happy being an unknown in this tournament. I have no 'epeen' nor ego to boast, and no one expects us to win every fight, which gives me no pressure. However, I am hoping you'll not be saying 'who?' when we apply for next years' tournament. Tiger I may be entering with a well known alliance now, but when I started in the 2nd tourney, I was also with an unknown alliance with no pressure. We beat Ushra'Khan and made a name for ourselves, so I wish you good luck with that. Enjoy this tourney. It gets harder when people expect victories all the time.
Druadan Institute of Fungineering	Posted - 2008.02.09 16:31:00 - [260] Hell of a lot of hyperbolae here, some people saying first-come-first-serve is bad, others saying that it's all the fault of those who didn't get in not applying soon enough. Giving all the big alliances first option is a bad idea, but not giving anyone first option is also a bad idea. Not everybody has the right to a reserved spot in the tournament, and it's great to see small alliances and alliances that don't hit the news or participate in these events often actually get in. Hun were a prime example of this. But what kind of tournament doesn't value the importance of the big names being there, and a defending champion actually getting to defend their champion status? A tournament that cares more about the publicity than the actualy value of the tournament itself. A newly crowned champion cann't be crowned without having to beat the champion, or beat someone who beat the champion (nest that as far as necessary), in the tournament. The answer is to either come up with some form of seeding system based on the results of the previous tournament, or simply reserve spots for the four teams that reached the semifinal of the previous tournament. Email and evemail them before the applications are open informing them that they have a place reserved, and they can choose to accept or decline this invitation. Give them a long time to do this. The fact that CCP didn't anticipate the quick fill-up only matters in one respect: it shows that the window was artificially short, so executors being away from computers for a number of days can really screw things up. First-come-first-serve is great, but you have to balance it between this blind faith in the plus-points of a queue, and the importance of having a great, interesting tournament. On the topic of who I'm hoping to see do well, I've got a few people. My first alliance, one for which my corp helped to forge a new home at the start of 2007, is in this year, so I'm looking forward to seeing Ethereal Dawn do well. Also rooting for Synchr0nicity (ahoy hoy Jacko!), and Cry Havoc, who I flew with the other week, very cool fellas, hope you get far. Hoping even moreso that CCP lets HUN in. It's not right that they can't defend their title just because the tournament organisation is not agile enough to react to unexpected occurances. -Dru
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.02.10 23:34:00 - [261] Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 10/02/2008 23:34:27 I don't see what all the complaining is about. We're going to win no matter who is entered, so the point is moot ---
Kriger x13 When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.02.11 12:35:00 - [262] tbh i havent spent too much time on the alliance tourneys in the past, nor have i bothered reading all the posts in this thread, but there seems to be a lot of fuzz.. so a question for the more insightfull: Has the signup process been different for this alliance tournament than the others in the past? If it has, i suppose its understandable if some alliances feel somewhat screwed. If the process is the same (flawed?) as its always beeen.. well then tough luck, have a cookie, the screwup is entirely your own. .: Kriger's gfx Factory :: x13 :.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.11 18:50:00 - [263] they have reserved spots for the previous tourneys top teams in the past, apart from that signup process is same, more interest this time perhaps due to banning of pirate implant sets http://eve.klaki.net/
Joe Jardine Leonardo's Workplace	Posted - 2008.02.11 22:25:00 - [264] I'm sorry but a tournament that has neither the defending champion or the winner of all the previous tournaments is completely ridiculous. Particulary when both teams have stated they want to take part and would have registered if they had known about it. Obviously you over looked the fact that the tournament has become affordable to pretty much anyone in game now and saying that first come, first served when the 40 were filled in two and a half days is just not good enough. A lot of people have put a lot of work into this and i know many many people are going to be disappointed when they find out that a bunch of new, stupid named alliances have been given places over the proven champions. Imagine the premiership without Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal.... would not be the premiership would it? This tournament without the previous winners is not a real tournament either. I was shocked when i read this post today.... please reconsider and make all the effort you have gone to worth while... you have time, do something about it.
Kwa Kaine eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.02.11 22:53:00 - [265] Originally by: Joe Jardine Obviously you over looked the fact that the tournament has become affordable to pretty much anyone in game now and saying that first come, first served when the 40 were filled in two and a half days is just not good enough. Two and a half day's to sign up and yet they failed to do it. Originally by: Joe Jardine A lot of people have put a lot of work into this and i know many many people are going to be disappointed when they find out that a bunch of new, stupid named alliances have been given places over the proven champions. Obviously they didn't put enough work into it or they would have been one of the first to enter. Originally by: Joe Jardine Imagine the premiership without Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal.... would not be the premiership would it? It'd probably be a much closer table and far more entertaining over the course of the season actually.
Dolgozo Lany	Posted - 2008.02.12 11:24:00 - [266] Come on... seriously. If rules stay as they are for next tournament, please tell me what's gonna stop me from buying 40 dead alliances and buy all 40 places. According to your rules if I participate in all first round fights I would get back my initial 40 billion tournament investment. Hell, I have more in my personal wallet. That's gonna be fun. Isn't this a stupid idea? Please, think like professionals or don't even think about it. That's the only reason I'm not gonna do it. And yeah... I'm not playing the Alliance's game and I don't wanna. So I don't care who gots in and who's not, I'm only interested to see good sportsmanship and bloody battles and I daubt I'm gonna get it for all fighs, due to some unpro way of thinking. Hey, small newby guys, face it... who the <insert 4 letter F word> cares about you outside of your 20 member alliance? But regardless what I say and whatever whines or cries are posted here, only the EVE-TV statistics will decide who was right.
Ishina Fel Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.12 12:52:00 - [267] Originally by: Dolgozo Lany Come on... seriously. If rules stay as they are for next tournament, please tell me what's gonna stop me from buying 40 dead alliances and buy all 40 places. According to your rules if I participate in all first round fights I would get back my initial 40 billion tournament investment. That would be stupid as hell... ...but utterly, utterly hilarious to watch unfold Be the Ultimate Ninja! Play Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN today!
Kriger x13 When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.02.12 13:19:00 - [268] Edited by: Kriger on 12/02/2008 13:39:34 Originally by: Ishina Fel Originally by: Dolgozo Lany Come on... seriously. If rules stay as they are for next tournament, please tell me what's gonna stop me from buying 40 dead alliances and buy all 40 places. According to your rules if I participate in all first round fights I would get back my initial 40 billion tournament investment. That would be stupid as hell... ...but utterly, utterly hilarious to watch unfold warning.. wall of text heading your way... yea and the _really_ fun part will be listening to him whine when CCP keep all his isks for being a **. As to the whole 'Premier League' comparison some1 posted. Well first of all i think Arsenal would have better management than the 'pro teams' like BoB, meaning they'd have spotted that they needed to sign up in time. So already there the comparison fails miserably (what a surprise...). Secondly (unrelated to the quotes above) assuming that all the alliances that got in consist of useless pvp'ers rendering the tournament useless, is a bit of an assumption. As stated previously, i doubt many will argue that the tournament would be worse of if HUN and BoB (and others) were in it, but this constant mudthrowing at the alliances who were lucky enough to get in is rly quite unessesary and only underlines the impression that we are currently listening to a bunch of whinning kids who cant accept their own mistakes and are lashing out at any1 and every1 in the process. Be constructive. Remember the accepted alliances that got in (ourselves included) did absolutely nothing wrong, they/we merely signed up in time. CCP should perhaps have done more to notify teams like HUN, but from what ive gathered sofar the signup process is pretty much what its always been, so it shouldnt have come as a surprise to any1. What this all boils down to is rly what you can expect of the ppl organising the tournament to do for you, and how much reasponsability/initiative the individual teams should have themselves. Its quite obvious that some teams feel that CCP should somehow treat them differently giving them special privileges, where as it seems CCP thought they rly couldnt be arsed to hold every1s hand and ppl should sort it out themselves if they wanted to participate. Equal terms for all i guess. With that said, id also expect something like the top 3 teams from the last tournament to get a reserved spot in the next tournament. But as for the rest. Though luck. .: Kriger's gfx Factory :: x13 :.**
Malar HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2008.02.14 17:36:00 - [269] Edited by: Malar on 14/02/2008 17:35:49 Originally by: Kriger Edited by: Kriger on 12/02/2008 13:39:34 ... WTS line breaks.. seriously, no wonder the thread almost died, noone is going to read that pile of junk above. --------------------------------------------- Comments in this post are mine and mine only
MAXSuicide Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.02.14 17:47:00 - [270] Originally by: Malar Edited by: Malar on 14/02/2008 17:35:49 Originally by: Kriger Edited by: Kriger on 12/02/2008 13:39:34 ... WTS line breaks.. seriously, no wonder the thread almost died, noone is going to read that pile of junk above.

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