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Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.30 19:17:00 - [271] Originally by: Avon Originally by: amagonsan You're serious... remind me again.. what alliance was calling it self legendary? and you call Goons arrogant? I'm sorry but i was a ex-gbc member, i experianced first hand on YW and R I S E how BoB helps their allies. You made sure that Tri didn't became an enemy, so you let YW, Fallen and M.pire die... just for example. I'm sorry but BoB is the arrogant alliance here, thinking that they can survive without help from their allies. Our allies died. Some help they were. I'm serious. Still, at least some gave it their best, fighting until the end .. rather than switching sides to avoid being ridiculed by the Goons. Strange that some people would rather surrender their integrity than to stand up to those who would mock it. I'm doubly serious. Man I love it when BOB talk about integrity. One of my favorite threads on your boards was the thread asking everyone to petition their capitals out of 49- after the crash. And if it failed, petition again 12 hours later when the new GM shift was on. Or maybe it's you talking about how you like "good fights" and then put 40 carriers, 5 motherships and 3 titans in a system. Hahah or maybe K/D ratios when some of your members have completely stopped uploading their losses. My point is that everyone in EVE is full of crap, you guys just pretend you're not.
fugazii Deep Space Productions Fang Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.30 19:18:00 - [272] Originally by: Tiggus Maximus The actual shooting of the POS is the least important part of the battle for a system. I think all major alliances can shoot a POS and kill it fairly quickly these days, the npc reference is not valid. What is important is fighting for the right to shoot that POS, by killing the defending fleet, which is people, not npc's. If you are complaining about one side having a numbers advantage and making it unfeasible for the other side to fight them, then all I have to say is, don't pick fights with bigger/badder/more numerous enemies than yourself. This is not a FPS, you need to consider politics, alliances, and bite off what you can chew, or accept the risk you will fail. All alliance warfare is not on the scale of BoB vs coalition. Just because BoB ****ed off everyone does not mean alliance warfare is broken, it means they will have close to 0 chance when all those people coordinate, as it should be. Dont get me wrong im not complaining about numbers, was only using that as an example. However dismissing numbers just because of poor politics doesnt change the fact that thier is such massive numbers. But that is another topic. But to say shooting pos's is the least important part of winning a system isnt true. If that was true, small corporations would be the dominant force in eve, not large alliances. To reinforce what im saying, and to lead me onto another point of yours that smaller alliance warfare isnt broken lets take a look at how smash/rk gained thier space. For about 2 months tde the system being sieged by smash/rk saw fleet battles almost everyday, with a consistent result. Smash/rk not holding the field. However, one night after months of not holding the field, smash/rk decided to drop 35 large towers in the system. Overnight winning the war through pve, after months of losing at pvp. But all is right in the world of alliance warfare? Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Glenda Giggles Red Ballz	Posted - 2008.01.30 19:23:00 - [273] Achaiah of Black Bag Ops. Read your post and although I think your correct when it comes to BoB ****ting all over their Allies so that they now face both old foes and friends as Red. Your not correct I think about BoB being the Elite fights of EvE. Maybe at one time BoB was the Elite fighting force thats not something I can support or deny. But if you look at the work history of most of the current BoB pilots they were actually once in the very Alliances that were crushed already by RSF friendly forces. I dont think of their recruits from AXE, Rise, YouWhat and all the other evicted Alliances as the best PvP players in game. The advantage BoB had and this is past tense was one of the single largest concentrations of high SP pilots and capitals in a single Alliance. But thats sort of changed.
Farham AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.01.30 19:27:00 - [274] Having spent weeks in T-PAR/TCAG living out of POSes during my time in ASCNs debacle up that way, I wish both systems would just burn to the ground and go away. Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and All Around Major Idiot
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.30 19:27:00 - [275] Edited by: Splagada on 30/01/2008 19:28:11 Which system was it, during the ASCN/BoB war, a system held by CELES (i think?) where a bob spy offlined everything? then the blame was sent on virtuozzo from dbp that's pretty crappy gameplay in general this kind of stuff... it can only fireback. theres little you can do against nolife nerds, but at least dont complain when the same thing happen to you ------ Tides of Silence
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.01.30 19:28:00 - [276] Originally by: Avon Our allies died. Some help they were. Hahaha, talking about contempt for your allies, this takes the cake. Without them you would have been defending Delve 6 months ago. And now you mock them for dying in your defence? BoB is legendary indeed. Legendary for being the most egotistical and shortsighted group of players in Eve. Well, maybe your former 'allies' beat you in the shortsightedness department, but you have certainly nailed first place in the egotistical department. ------------------------------------------------
Maladora GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.30 19:30:00 - [277] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Virgil Aquilis Problem with the Goons is their arrogance. They need to feel important in an internet spaceships game, and give no credit for anything which happened before they came on the scene. I'm serious. Im very tempted to fall for this troll
amagonsan Minmatar Perpetual Reality Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.30 19:30:00 - [278] Originally by: Avon Originally by: amagonsan You're serious... remind me again.. what alliance was calling it self legendary? and you call Goons arrogant? I'm sorry but i was a ex-gbc member, i experianced first hand on YW and R I S E how BoB helps their allies. You made sure that Tri didn't became an enemy, so you let YW, Fallen and M.pire die... just for example. I'm sorry but BoB is the arrogant alliance here, thinking that they can survive without help from their allies. Our allies died. Some help they were. I'm serious. Still, at least some gave it their best, fighting until the end .. rather than switching sides to avoid being ridiculed by the Goons. Strange that some people would rather surrender their integrity than to stand up to those who would mock it. I'm doubly serious. Last i checked YW was still alive and removed from the GBC standing list, but i understand that BoB considers them death. Most split up because they where facing a superior enemy with superior numbers (Tri's a strong enemy to fight). They surrendered because the war cost alot already. Not all have the luxery to have a rich Ratting/mission ground to chose from like BoB. The corp i was with for example had only a few hundered isk left in the corp-wallet when we where forced to evac. R I S E tried to make a new start but even in Fountain BoB was unwilling to defend their allies and help them beat back Bruce out of fear of a war with them (that they later got anyway).
Leto Twin Amarr Caritas.	Posted - 2008.01.30 19:35:00 - [279] Edited by: Leto Twin on 30/01/2008 19:36:10 I heard from a friend that ASCN High Command planned all of this way back in '05. Way to plan, guys! EDIT: It was at a pool party, which was followed by laser tag (pew pew). snip Inappropriate signature. Please do not reuse it. Email us for more information -Eldo Davip([email protected])
Moctobot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.30 19:40:00 - [280] should have listened to roy of ca

Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.30 19:41:00 - [281] Originally by: Moctobot should have listened to roy of ca

CCP Saint C C P	Posted - 2008.01.30 20:07:00 - [282] Locked Degenerated into trolling. Saint Community Representative EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang



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