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Vendorella
Montreal Irishmen
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:03:00 -
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I'm going to try to keep battle reports limited to the bare facts, so as not to tilt bias towards either side.
The sides:
Tortuga and Friends are currently in TPAR, local count 330+, well over 100 assorted capitals.
BOB and Friends. Currently reported in Delve, around 30-40 capitals and mid-sized support fleet.
7 BOB towers holding SOV in TPAR... all in reinforced.
20:01... First tower to leave reinforced in 5 minutes
Events will be updated as they occur, stay tuned...
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Vendorella
Montreal Irishmen
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:03:00 -
[2]
Edited by: Vendorella on 29/01/2008 20:15:14
I'm going to try to keep battle reports limited to the bare facts, so as not to tilt bias towards either side.
The sides:
Tortuga and Friends are currently in TPAR, local count 330+, well over 100 assorted capitals.
BOB and Friends. Currently reported in Delve, around 30-40 capitals and mid-sized support fleet.
7 BOB towers holding SOV in TPAR... all in reinforced.
20:01... First tower to leave reinforced in 5 minutes
20:06... First tower out of reinforced
20:08... First tower in 50% structure
20:09... First Tower down.... 3 min, 10 sec total siege time.
Elsewhere in EVE....
Red Alliance Titan obtained the password to a BOB POS currently being repped, and detonated his doomsday device. Multiple BOB ships reported destroyed (though personally I'm not a big fan of meta-gaming... but there you go.) UPDATE: Reports of 50-60 battleships destroyed due to the RA doomsday.
Events will be updated as they occur, stay tuned...
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Angor
The JORG Corporation
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:04:00 -
[3]
im so excited 
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[ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Angor
The JORG Corporation
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:04:00 -
[4]
im so excited
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[ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
TWD
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:07:00 -
[5]
Goodbye our TPAR, you will be missed. You gave us 2 mothership kills, also several other capitals and fleets. However, we didn't want you anyway. TO BE HONEST. |
Khanid Kutie
I R Teh Poasting Alt Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:10:00 -
[6]
 Originally by: Angor
im so excited
plz post constructively or risk being modded by Saint...
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Originally by: Thargat
They should change the name of CAOD to EvE Zoo. Please to not feed the animals.
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Khanid Kutie
I R Teh Poasting Alt Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:10:00 -
[7]
Originally by: TWD
Goodbye our TPAR, you will be missed. You gave us 2 mothership kills, also several other capitals and fleets. However, we didn't want you anyway. TO BE HONEST.
you heard it here first folks....
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Originally by: Thargat
They should change the name of CAOD to EvE Zoo. Please to not feed the animals.
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Tholarim
Amarr
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:11:00 -
[8]
Originally by: TWD
Goodbye our TPAR, you will be missed. You gave us 2 mothership kills, also several other capitals and fleets. However, we didn't want you anyway. TO BE HONEST.
i wish i was in mc right now.
Please do not post pictures of players in your sig - Mitnal |
Aneurysm
Gallente
Revival.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:13:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: TWD
Goodbye our TPAR, you will be missed. You gave us 2 mothership kills, also several other capitals and fleets. However, we didn't want you anyway. TO BE HONEST.
i wish i was in mc right now.
Why? Do you not like being DD'd inside your pos...?
--News-
BoB fleet just DD'd inside their POS
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Montaire
Genbuku.
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:14:00 -
[10]
It took 3 minute 5 seconds to destroy the first tower to come out of reinforced.
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:15:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: TWD
Goodbye our TPAR, you will be missed. You gave us 2 mothership kills, also several other capitals and fleets. However, we didn't want you anyway. TO BE HONEST.
i wish i was in mc right now.
I'll get started on your paperwork <^-^>
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Murtala
Mushin Market
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:16:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Aneurysm
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: TWD
Goodbye our TPAR, you will be missed. You gave us 2 mothership kills, also several other capitals and fleets. However, we didn't want you anyway. TO BE HONEST.
i wish i was in mc right now.
Why? Do you not like being DD'd inside your pos...?
--News-
BoB fleet just DD'd inside their POS
HOW?? WHO ?? Details
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Executive Outcomes - Pet Training Manual |
IWasMadeForThis
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:18:00 -
[13]
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8215/iloverafv1.jpg
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Tholarim
Amarr
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:18:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Aneurysm
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: TWD
Goodbye our TPAR, you will be missed. You gave us 2 mothership kills, also several other capitals and fleets. However, we didn't want you anyway. TO BE HONEST.
i wish i was in mc right now.
Why? Do you not like being DD'd inside your pos...?
--News-
BoB fleet just DD'd inside their POS
bout time someone did it to us and made us step up on security stuffies. GG.
Please do not post pictures of players in your sig - Mitnal |
Aneurysm
Gallente
Revival.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:19:00 -
[15]
Originally by: Murtala
Originally by: Aneurysm
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: TWD
Goodbye our TPAR, you will be missed. You gave us 2 mothership kills, also several other capitals and fleets. However, we didn't want you anyway. TO BE HONEST.
i wish i was in mc right now.
Why? Do you not like being DD'd inside your pos...?
--News-
BoB fleet just DD'd inside their POS
HOW?? WHO ?? Details
I didnt want those battleships anyway...
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laotse
The Flying Dutchmen
Antesignani Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:19:00 -
[16]
at the end there will be no winners only loosers 
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Aneurysm
Gallente
Revival.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:19:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Aneurysm
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: TWD
Goodbye our TPAR, you will be missed. You gave us 2 mothership kills, also several other capitals and fleets. However, we didn't want you anyway. TO BE HONEST.
i wish i was in mc right now.
Why? Do you not like being DD'd inside your pos...?
--News-
BoB fleet just DD'd inside their POS
bout time someone did it to us and made us step up on security stuffies. GG.
We didn't want that security anyway?
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MissTrick
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:19:00 -
[18]
nice exploit
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Lady Gank
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:21:00 -
[19]
nice
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Aneurysm
Gallente
Revival.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:21:00 -
[20]
Edited by: Aneurysm on 29/01/2008 20:21:40
Originally by: MissTrick
nice exploit
Exploit?!? Are you stupid?
BOOM! FLEETSHOT!
Additionally MissTrick learn game mechanics my dear.
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onymous
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:21:00 -
[21]
Originally by: MissTrick
nice exploit
something about turnabout and fair play
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Zeitgueist
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:21:00 -
[22]
Originally by: MissTrick
nice exploit
Originally by: Tholarim
bout time someone did it to us
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Lenaria
Caldari
Ursa Ritor
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:22:00 -
[23]
Originally by: MissTrick
nice exploit
The only way to force CCP to aknowledge this problem - is to deliver problems to BoB. This "exploit" is widely known for several months and many times petitioned - but unless BoB personally start to suffer from it CCP will do zitch.
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Darko1107
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:22:00 -
[24]
Lets have another stan post!
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Montaire
Genbuku.
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:23:00 -
[25]
RA, given assistance by spies received the BOB Starbase password and successfully deployed a Doomsday weapon on the BOB fleet within the tower's shield. An unknown number of BOB ships (consisting of, I believe, primarily battleships) were destroyed.
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Omeega
UA Industry
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:24:00 -
[26]
Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: TWD
Goodbye our TPAR, you will be missed. You gave us 2 mothership kills, also several other capitals and fleets. However, we didn't want you anyway. TO BE HONEST.
i wish i was in mc right now.
I'll get started on your paperwork <^-^>
hey you an alt! no Corp thiCker etC!
<3
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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The Slayer
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:26:00 -
[27]
Meanwhile, In TPAR
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LoxyRider
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:27:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: TWD
Goodbye our TPAR, you will be missed. You gave us 2 mothership kills, also several other capitals and fleets. However, we didn't want you anyway. TO BE HONEST.
i wish i was in mc right now.
I'll get started on your paperwork <^-^>
hey you an alt! no Corp thiCker etC!
<3
 Fixed <3
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:31:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Aneurysm
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: TWD
Goodbye our TPAR, you will be missed. You gave us 2 mothership kills, also several other capitals and fleets. However, we didn't want you anyway. TO BE HONEST.
i wish i was in mc right now.
Why? Do you not like being DD'd inside your pos...?
--News-
BoB fleet just DD'd inside their POS
Hey Anue, u fool nobody.
Please do not post pictures of players in your sig - Mitnal
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Aneurysm
Gallente
Revival.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:33:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Aneurysm
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: TWD
Goodbye our TPAR, you will be missed. You gave us 2 mothership kills, also several other capitals and fleets. However, we didn't want you anyway. TO BE HONEST.
i wish i was in mc right now.
Why? Do you not like being DD'd inside your pos...?
--News-
BoB fleet just DD'd inside their POS
Hey Anue, u fool nobody.
Who's trying? 
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Berand
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:34:00 -
[31]
Ah, I have fond memories of TPAR from back when ASCN tried to make their short-lived push up that way during the war.
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:36:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Aneurysm
Who's trying?
Oh, you must got banned again, lol.
Please do not post pictures of players in your sig - Mitnal
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Aneurysm
Gallente
Revival.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:38:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Aneurysm
Who's trying?
Oh, you must got banned again, lol.
Nope, not banned...
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Ur235
Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:41:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Ur235 on 29/01/2008 20:41:02
bob being out meta gamed? jeebus
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dr shark
Minmatar
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:43:00 -
[35]
Edited by: dr shark on 29/01/2008 20:43:29
Originally by: Aneurysm
We didn't want that security anyway?
Lol Aneu.
One thing im very interested at, tbh.
Are your parents sad or glad for not being able to have grandkids from their single child?
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HydroSan
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:45:00 -
[36]
Originally by: TWD
Goodbye our TPAR, you will be missed. You gave us 2 mothership kills, also several other capitals and fleets. However, we didn't want you anyway. TO BE HONEST.
I expected nothing less.
It's exactly what scared people say when they are trying anything to get thier worst nightmare out of their home system.
I imagine the next one will be "we're breaking up coz of internal problems, nothing to do with anyone else though!!111"
Enjoy empire, we'll still be here when you get back.
dbp
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Taliac
Caldari
Soliders Of Eve
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:50:00 -
[37]
Originally by: HydroSan
Originally by: TWD
Goodbye our TPAR, you will be missed. You gave us 2 mothership kills, also several other capitals and fleets. However, we didn't want you anyway. TO BE HONEST.
I expected nothing less.
It's exactly what scared people say when they are trying anything to get thier worst nightmare out of their home system.
I imagine the next one will be "we're breaking up coz of internal problems, nothing to do with anyone else though!!111"
Enjoy empire, we'll still be here when you get back.
dbp
Omg that i doubt.
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omplapa
Caldari
R.A.G.N.A.R.O.K.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:52:00 -
[38]
Originally by: dr shark
Edited by: dr shark on 29/01/2008 20:43:29
Originally by: Aneurysm
We didn't want that security anyway?
Lol Aneu.
One thing im very interested at, tbh.
Are your parents sad or glad for not being able to have grandkids from their single child?
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sakana
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:53:00 -
[39]
RA managed to DD the BoB BSs cause BoB gave them the password. They planned that at the BBQ you see....
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Demon Doudou
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:54:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Demon Doudou on 29/01/2008 20:55:47
KILL POS
Linkage ^^
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Aramark
Omega Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:54:00 -
[41]
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Aramark unbanned and afraid
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:55:00 -
[42]
Originally by: dr shark
Edited by: dr shark on 29/01/2008 20:43:29
Originally by: Aneurysm
We didn't want that security anyway?
Lol Aneu.
One thing im very interested at, tbh.
Are your parents sad or glad for not being able to have grandkids from their single child?
AHAHAHAHA
Please do not post pictures of players in your sig - Mitnal
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Aneurysm
Gallente
Revival.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:56:00 -
[43]
Originally by: dr shark
Edited by: dr shark on 29/01/2008 20:43:29
Originally by: Aneurysm
We didn't want that security anyway?
Lol Aneu.
One thing im very interested at, tbh.
Are your parents sad or glad for not being able to have grandkids from their single child?
At least you said my name right...
Now, lets see...
1- Not an only child
2- they have grandkids
3- Typical DICE BoB smack, if you cant win then bring OOG things into it! You just make me more determined :)
Lots of love. XXX
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Hrin
Minmatar
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:56:00 -
[44]
PotBS just came out. Bob can go roll British.
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Xiang TaSkalin
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:57:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Hrin
PotBS just came out. Bob can go roll British.
PotBS has goon devs. 
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Candy King
Gallente
CandyLand
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Posted - 2008.01.29 21:17:00 -
[46]
Originally by: dr shark
Edited by: dr shark on 29/01/2008 20:43:29
Originally by: Aneurysm
We didn't want that security anyway?
Lol Aneu.
One thing im very interested at, tbh.
Are your parents sad or glad for not being able to have grandkids from their single child?
Generated from insecurity in ones own sexuality..
<3
Candy King!
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Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.29 21:20:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Candy King
Originally by: dr shark
Lol Aneu.
One thing im very interested at, tbh.
Are your parents sad or glad for not being able to have grandkids from their single child?
Generated from insecurity in ones own sexuality..
<3
Candy King!
Oh, I thought he was infertile. You mean hes a homosexual?
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TylerJames
Nubs.
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.29 21:22:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Xiang TaSkalin
Edited by: Xiang TaSkalin on 29/01/2008 21:02:27
Originally by: Hrin
PotBS just came out. Bob can go roll British.
PotBS has goon devs.
/me scratches that from the list
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Aneurysm
Gallente
Revival.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 21:28:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Nahia Senne
Originally by: Candy King
Originally by: dr shark
Lol Aneu.
One thing im very interested at, tbh.
Are your parents sad or glad for not being able to have grandkids from their single child?
Generated from insecurity in ones own sexuality..
<3
Candy King!
Oh, I thought he was infertile. You mean hes a homosexual?
Yes I am.
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Saffronique
Blue Sky Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.29 21:54:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Saffronique on 29/01/2008 22:05:22
Paging Mr Molle to this thread.. something about "sry" and "nop"?
-edit I'm just getting an engaged tone.. bah
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.29 21:55:00 -
[51]
What happened to all the great fights T-PAR was suppose to give you guys 
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Westly Synpa
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.29 21:58:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
What happened to all the great fights T-PAR was suppose to give you guys
they didn't want T-PAR anyways.
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Mourn Navarre
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:02:00 -
[53]
Excellent updates and play-by-play. I enjoyed reading.
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Attak
Trioptimum
The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:05:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Saffronique
Paging Mr Molle to this thread.. something about "sry" and "nop"?
there is pepsi all over my keyboard.
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dr shark
Minmatar
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:06:00 -
[55]
O my my, never knew we made this much bitternes in ppl hearts.
Dungar, i cant remember of all faces, were you one of with tears in the eyes as well?
Can I somehow apologize for all the griefing me and my brothers did to you and your friends. Would that stop all of harsh punishment coming at us?
My friends are realy emotional guys and this sort of harasment we expiriance with all these regions we lost....might be to much for many to take
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:10:00 -
[56]
Originally by: dr shark
O my my, never knew we made this much bitternes in ppl hearts.
Dungar, i cant remember of all faces, were you one of with tears in the eyes as well?
Can I somehow apologize for all the griefing me and my brothers did to you and your friends. Would that stop all of harsh punishment coming at us?
My friends are realy emotional guys and this sort of harasment we expiriance with all these regions we lost....might be to much for many to take
My video response to this poast.
Originally by: Darkrydar
Oh and killboard loss arguments are so 2005.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:23:00 -
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Killing pos with 100+ caps?
That is supposted to be a great achievement? I call that pathetic. Same as stupid as the BoB's running around yelling how uber they are (admitted, that is quite a while ago...).
And with all the lag it is just a waste of time anyway. And to imagine that people actually pay money so that they are allowed to waste their time waiting and waiting and waiting. Haha.
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:24:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Gnulpie
Killing pos with 100+ caps?
That is supposted to be a great achievement? I call that pathetic. Same as stupid as the BoB's running around yelling how uber they are (admitted, that is quite a while ago...).
And with all the lag it is just a waste of time anyway. And to imagine that people actually pay money so that they are allowed to waste their time waiting and waiting and waiting. Haha.
Welcome to eve. Can I have your stuff?
Originally by: Darkrydar
Oh and killboard loss arguments are so 2005.
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Map Screen
Flat Earth Society
Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:32:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Map Screen on 29/01/2008 22:33:01
You are all playing into their trap...
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Aneurysm
Gallente
Revival.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:33:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Aneurysm on 29/01/2008 22:33:50
Originally by: Map Screen
Edited by: Map Screen on 29/01/2008 22:33:01
You are all playing into their trap...
LOL!
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Factor Benz
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:34:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Gnulpie
Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: Gnulpie
Killing pos with 100+ caps?
That is supposted to be a great achievement? I call that pathetic. Same as stupid as the BoB's running around yelling how uber they are (admitted, that is quite a while ago...).
And with all the lag it is just a waste of time anyway. And to imagine that people actually pay money so that they are allowed to waste their time waiting and waiting and waiting. Haha.
Welcome to eve. Can I have your stuff?
Obviously you are playing a different game than me. I never have any lag (unless I am in Jita). And I certainly won't pay money so that I can wait 30 minutes only to see that all the action already happened. If you enjoy that ... fine with me.
The Eve I am playing is quite different and it is much more fun. I just pity all those people who think they are doing something 'great' - especially when it comes to a completely unimportant internet spaceship game.
I enjoy the Eve I am playing and it certainly doesn't involve any sort of pos warfare, so no: you can't have my stuff.
To each their own. The difference being I'm not in your thread talking about how lame you are.
(you are)
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Zeitgueist
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:35:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Gnulpie
I don't know anything about alliance warfare but I know you're doing it wrong.
Shortened that up for you.
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:49:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Zeitgueist
Originally by: Gnulpie
I don't know anything about alliance warfare but I know you're doing it wrong.
Shortened that up for you.
Gnulpie says everything that happens in an internet spaceship game is unimportant. However, it's important enough to post about it and important enough not to leave. You showed us Gnulpie. Now just go back to playing internet space rock simulator.
Originally by: Darkrydar
Oh and killboard loss arguments are so 2005.
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Aeon Yakati
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:50:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Aeon Yakati on 29/01/2008 22:50:26
That's it!
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:50:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Factor Benz
To each their own. The difference being I'm not in your thread talking about how lame you are.
(you are)
Sure to each of their own. I don't want to forbid you that stuff what you like. And you are more than welcome to come into 'my' threads and call me lame as soon as I start talking about how great things I am doing.
Quote:
I don't know anything about alliance warfare but I know you're doing it wrong.
I know enough about alliance warfare. And certainly RedSwarmFederation is doing it excellent otherwise they wouldn't have caputured all of BoB regions except one and they are pounding on that last one now and it seems they will get it sooner than later.
But all that doesn't change my opinion that badly lagging battles are just a waste of time. And certainly I am not wasting my time with such stuff. Also, as I repeat myself, I can't see any greatness there. Maybe certain people can explain me that, though I really doubt it.
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:55:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Gnulpie
Originally by: Factor Benz
To each their own. The difference being I'm not in your thread talking about how lame you are.
(you are)
Sure to each of their own. I don't want to forbid you that stuff what you like. And you are more than welcome to come into 'my' threads and call me lame as soon as I start talking about how great things I am doing.
Quote:
I don't know anything about alliance warfare but I know you're doing it wrong.
I know enough about alliance warfare. And certainly RedSwarmFederation is doing it excellent otherwise they wouldn't have caputured all of BoB regions except one and they are pounding on that last one now and it seems they will get it sooner than later.
But all that doesn't change my opinion that badly lagging battles are just a waste of time. And certainly I am not wasting my time with such stuff. Also, as I repeat myself, I can't see any greatness there. Maybe certain people can explain me that, though I really doubt it.
The issue here is that you don't get it.
Originally by: Darkrydar
Oh and killboard loss arguments are so 2005.
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Zorland
Minmatar
Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:57:00 -
[67]
Remember guys, turncoats die turncoat death. Well done, hyenas. Lets see how long you hold it.
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Dog Solitude
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.01.29 23:09:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Aeon Yakati
Edited by: Aeon Yakati on 29/01/2008 22:50:26
That's it!
Win tbh.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.01.29 23:48:00 -
[69]
Guess this is a "welp" day.
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Westly Synpa
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 00:09:00 -
[70]
Originally by: NATMav
Guess this is a "welp" day.
welp day for them sure ( they lost T-PAR and a bunch of other systems)
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Maladora
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 00:10:00 -
[71]
twd stop poasting, youre way too arrogant to get away with trolling
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Sgt Napalm
Synergy Fundacion
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Posted - 2008.01.30 00:10:00 -
[72]
That only took two months. Grats.
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CHUNG NORRIS
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Posted - 2008.01.30 00:12:00 -
[73]
wow napalm you left bob damn what a surprise.
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GS Armada
Caldari
Omega Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.01.30 00:13:00 -
[74]
nice work and thx for keeping them busy for us:P
great stuff RA
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Lucias Trask
Shadows of the Dead
The Dawn of Darkness
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Posted - 2008.01.30 00:20:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Aeon Yakati
Edited by: Aeon Yakati on 29/01/2008 22:50:26
That's it!
Winner... go home everyone, nothing else to see here. DICE has won this thread.
Oh hey BoB... if I have an extra fleet fitted Mega can I come play in Delve with you? Im bored in fountain. BRUCE no fight unless theres 3x more of them than there are of us.
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Xiong Yoshi
Timetravel Enterprises
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.30 00:21:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Gnulpie
The Eve I am playing is quite different and it is much more fun. I just pity all those people who think they are doing something 'great' - especially when it comes to a completely unimportant internet spaceship game.
I enjoy the Eve I am playing and it certainly doesn't involve any sort of pos warfare, so no: you can't have my stuff.
BoB Alt justifying Empire existance? Just wondering.
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 00:26:00 -
[77]
Titans being able to DD through POS shields (even with password) is a terrible game mechanic.
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.30 00:29:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Mistress Suffering
Titans being able to DD through POS shields (even with password) is a terrible game mechanic.
Funny how you weren't complaining about this 6+ months ago.
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Isabel Sweet
Amarr
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 00:30:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Isabel Sweet on 30/01/2008 00:31:28
Originally by: Xiong Yoshi
Originally by: Gnulpie
The Eve I am playing is quite different and it is much more fun. I just pity all those people who think they are doing something 'great' - especially when it comes to a completely unimportant internet spaceship game.
I enjoy the Eve I am playing and it certainly doesn't involve any sort of pos warfare, so no: you can't have my stuff.
BoB Alt justifying Empire existance? Just wondering.
Hope not..is too embarresing to witness his low IQ ingame speaking.
And good work on the dd..the only time i was glad i have a ******** ISP and got crashed. when i logged in i saw a titan warpin out and lots of wrecks.
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Originally by: Mistress Suffering
Titans being able to DD through POS shields (even with password) is a terrible game mechanic.
Funny how you weren't complaining about this 6+ months ago.
Do not worry, he is just a bitter coward alt hidden in his little unimportant stealth identity. Cowards alts are not important.
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Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 00:30:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Sgt Napalm
That only took two months. Grats.
We're losing because we're not winning fast enough. 
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Atama Cardel
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 00:47:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Sgt Napalm
That only took two months. Grats.
Why'd you leave BoB Napalm?
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Belija'al
Amarr
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.01.30 01:11:00 -
[82]
Payback?
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Westly Synpa
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 01:15:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Belija'al
Payback?
ships dont matter in a territorial battle.
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Belija'al
Amarr
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.01.30 01:16:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Westly Synpa
Originally by: Belija'al
Payback?
ships dont matter in a territorial battle.
money and morale does.
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 01:23:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: TWD
Goodbye our TPAR, you will be missed. You gave us 2 mothership kills, also several other capitals and fleets. However, we didn't want you anyway. TO BE HONEST.
i wish i was in mc right now.
Because you could so make fun of that statement, am I right? 
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Westly Synpa
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 01:25:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Belija'al
Originally by: Westly Synpa
Originally by: Belija'al
Payback?
ships dont matter in a territorial battle.
money and morale does.
heh its not like we haven't been planning this since catch ended everyone is so broke ( not even close haven't lost a ship yet)
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hothead
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.01.30 01:28:00 -
[87]
LOL tortuga and the coalition of the willing = 5-10 x numbers of BOB now?
its just a poor effort... tbfh...but grats i guess on the victory you needed something after getting spanked last few weeks...
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Vahl
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 01:35:00 -
[88]
Originally by: hothead
LOL tortuga and the coalition of the willing = 5-10 x numbers of BOB now?
its just a poor effort... tbfh...but grats i guess on the victory you needed something after getting spanked last few weeks...
Hey, its not our fault we killed off all of BoB's pets and allies. Wait, yes it is. Touche...
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Hrin
Minmatar
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 01:46:00 -
[89]
Originally by: hothead
LOL tortuga and the coalition of the willing = 5-10 x numbers of BOB now?
its just a poor effort... tbfh...but grats i guess on the victory you needed something after getting spanked last few weeks...
CORM and FATAL.
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DaiTengu
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 01:46:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Belija'al
Originally by: Westly Synpa
Originally by: Belija'al
Payback?
ships dont matter in a territorial battle.
money and morale does.
If I lose a battleship, I go back and get another one. If I lose that one, I get another one. If I lose that one, I get another one. If I run out of battleships, I move on to my battlecruiser stash... If I run out of battlecruisers, I jump in a cruiser, If I run out of cruisers, I jump in a rifter. I won't run out of rifters.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.01.30 01:56:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Zorland
Remember guys, turncoats die turncoat death. Well done, hyenas. Lets see how long you hold it.
Or they join BoB and then want to join MC when things go sour...
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Zorland
Minmatar
Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.30 02:05:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Zorland
Remember guys, turncoats die turncoat death. Well done, hyenas. Lets see how long you hold it.
Or they join BoB and then want to join MC when things go sour...
MC? MC is dead, they just don't know it yet. As soon as the BOB blobage is over, Thug will take care of Judas Atoch and Co. Honestly, can't wait to see that one.
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.30 02:30:00 -
[93]
maybe bob filtered my ip address or something but that killboard still doesn't work
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toffi3
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Posted - 2008.01.30 02:48:00 -
[94]
I hate Pos¦s, I hope you kill them all and then selfdestruct yours....
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hothead
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.01.30 03:16:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Hrin
Originally by: hothead
LOL tortuga and the coalition of the willing = 5-10 x numbers of BOB now?
its just a poor effort... tbfh...but grats i guess on the victory you needed something after getting spanked last few weeks...
CORM and FATAL.
LOL youur part of a corp thats just joined the zerg? GG
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King4aDay
Minmatar
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 03:24:00 -
[96]
Originally by: hothead
Originally by: Hrin
Originally by: hothead
LOL tortuga and the coalition of the willing = 5-10 x numbers of BOB now?
its just a poor effort... tbfh...but grats i guess on the victory you needed something after getting spanked last few weeks...
CORM and FATAL.
LOL youur part of a corp thats just joined the zerg? GG
Lol yah we just joined yesterday.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 03:48:00 -
[97]
tpars purge is meaningless sadly, bob have won given how many goons they killed in qy6 today :(((((
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The Mittani
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 03:50:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Belija'al
Originally by: Westly Synpa
Originally by: Belija'al
Payback?
ships dont matter in a territorial battle.
money and morale does.
yeah dis 250 man fleet purging qy6 goes to show: goons are about to give up and ride bikes :(((
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Westly Synpa
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 03:51:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Westly Synpa on 30/01/2008 03:51:28
Originally by: The Mittani
yeah dis 250 man fleet purging qy6 goes to show: goons are about to give up and ride bikes :(((
man you always ruin opsec.
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Sgt Napalm
Synergy Fundacion
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Posted - 2008.01.30 04:58:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Sgt Napalm on 30/01/2008 05:01:52
Originally by: Atama Cardel
Originally by: Sgt Napalm
That only took two months. Grats.
Why'd you leave BoB Napalm?
You simply don't 'leave' BoB. I am BoB. 
Furthermore, who said I left 
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Ernest Graefenberg
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:15:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Ernest Graefenberg on 30/01/2008 05:15:04
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Belija'al
Originally by: Westly Synpa
Originally by: Belija'al
Payback?
ships dont matter in a territorial battle.
money and morale does.
yeah dis 250 man fleet purging qy6 goes to show: goons are about to give up and ride bikes :(((
I'm getting peptalk from you right now, it's destroying my morale.
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Sirius A
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:19:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Belija'al
Originally by: Westly Synpa
Originally by: Belija'al
Payback?
ships dont matter in a territorial battle.
money and morale does.
...not to goons.
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:29:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Westly Synpa
Originally by: Belija'al
Payback?
ships dont matter in a territorial battle.
itd be interesting what your opinion would be if ratios were switched.
im sure it would be something along the lines of your gloating about who is the best at micro managing pos's in a pvp oriented game.
but dont get me wrong, what your saying is true. ships dont matter in a territorial war (anymore). its unfortunate wars arent won by warfare nowadays, wouldnt you agree?.. well i guess you wouldnt.
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HYPE MAN
Minmatar
PAYDAY MOTORCADE
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Posted - 2008.01.30 05:33:00 -
[104]
Quote:
If I lose a battleship, I go back and get another one. If I lose that one, I get another one. If I lose that one, I get another one. If I run out of battleships, I move on to my battlecruiser stash... If I run out of battlecruisers, I jump in a cruiser, If I run out of cruisers, I jump in a rifter. I won't run out of rifters.
WIN
Wins all of eve tbfh
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Westly Synpa
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 06:00:00 -
[105]
Originally by: fugazii
Originally by: Westly Synpa
Originally by: Belija'al
Payback?
ships dont matter in a territorial battle.
itd be interesting what your opinion would be if ratios were switched.
im sure it would be something along the lines of your gloating about who is the best at micro managing pos's in a pvp oriented game.
but dont get me wrong, what your saying is true. ships dont matter in a territorial war (anymore). its unfortunate wars arent won by warfare nowadays, wouldnt you agree?.. well i guess you wouldnt.
wars are won and lost by pos warfare and controlling the system so that people can/can't put down towers ship losses dont matter if you control the field and are taking down towers they are nesscery to do so.
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Gallente
Repo Industries
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 06:04:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Gnulpie
Killing pos with 100+ caps?
That is supposted to be a great achievement? I call that pathetic. Same as stupid as the BoB's running around yelling how uber they are (admitted, that is quite a while ago...).
And with all the lag it is just a waste of time anyway. And to imagine that people actually pay money so that they are allowed to waste their time waiting and waiting and waiting. Haha.
Its actually quite impressive from a logistics and political perspective. Trying to manage and motivate a diverse array of pilots/ internet geeks and get everyone on time in system and kitted up needs to be experienced before one can throw down comments like that. And thats before we go into game mechanics or alliance politics.
A metaphor that comes to mind would be to shoot a lame horse. Sure the horse still has some kick in it but its always gunna be a spectical to wheel out a cannon to shoot it point blank in the head, knowing that a rifle would suffice. Everyone is going to be interested to hear about that, even horse lovers
Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place?
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Dramaticus
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 06:04:00 -
[107]
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Belija'al
Originally by: Westly Synpa
Originally by: Belija'al
Payback?
ships dont matter in a territorial battle.
money and morale does.
yeah dis 250 man fleet purging qy6 goes to show: goons are about to give up and ride bikes :(((
we didnt want this war anyways
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Re Mi
Caldari
Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.01.30 06:49:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: dr shark
O my my, never knew we made this much bitternes in ppl hearts.
Dungar, i cant remember of all faces, were you one of with tears in the eyes as well?
Can I somehow apologize for all the griefing me and my brothers did to you and your friends. Would that stop all of harsh punishment coming at us?
My friends are realy emotional guys and this sort of harasment we expiriance with all these regions we lost....might be to much for many to take
My video response to this poast.
The end of your video shows an individual getting curb stomped. This is a favorite method used by white supremacist/neo n4zis to lynch g4y people by crushing their skull. People have been killed in that manner in RL.
Its not funny.
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Zorland
Minmatar
Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.30 06:59:00 -
[109]
Edited by: Zorland on 30/01/2008 07:02:55
Edited by: Zorland on 30/01/2008 07:00:32
Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Its actually quite impressive from a logistics and political perspective. Trying to manage and motivate a diverse array of pilots/ internet geeks and get everyone on time in system and kitted up needs to be experienced before one can throw down comments like that. And thats before we go into game mechanics or alliance politics.
Metaphorically the "great bob war" atm is about shooting a broken lame horse. Sure the horse still has some kick left in it but essentially it knows its a goner. This little chapter of tpar was always gunna be a spectical. To wheel out a cannon to shoot the horse point blank in the head, knowing that a rifle would suffice, is a statement of strength, not a testimate of gentlemanly warfare. That element left this war literally years ago. Everyone is going to be interested to hear about it, even horse lovers
I disagree with you. It's really easy to motivate people to login and join the fight if they know they will be a part of a bigger blob. Look at MC, they didn't dare to put the capital ships on line alone against BOB, they knew that BOB would kill them all as they did RA's and many other in the past. But now, since they know BOB can't match that many capital ships, they put them on line with all RSF capitals. People are brave when in larger group, they take a few drinks, pick up forks and torches and lynch the guy they used to be scared off, while he is down.
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Attak
Trioptimum
The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:01:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Attak on 30/01/2008 07:04:44
EDIT: not bothering
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Zorland
Minmatar
Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:06:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Re Mi
Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: dr shark
O my my, never knew we made this much bitternes in ppl hearts.
Dungar, i cant remember of all faces, were you one of with tears in the eyes as well?
Can I somehow apologize for all the griefing me and my brothers did to you and your friends. Would that stop all of harsh punishment coming at us?
My friends are realy emotional guys and this sort of harasment we expiriance with all these regions we lost....might be to much for many to take
My video response to this poast.
The end of your video shows an individual getting curb stomped. This is a favorite method used by white supremacist/neo n4zis to lynch g4y people by crushing their skull. People have been killed in that manner in RL.
Its not funny.
You should stop bashing yourself.
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Local Her0
Minmatar
La Mancha Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:13:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Zorland
Edited by: Zorland on 30/01/2008 07:02:55
Edited by: Zorland on 30/01/2008 07:00:32
Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Its actually quite impressive from a logistics and political perspective. Trying to manage and motivate a diverse array of pilots/ internet geeks and get everyone on time in system and kitted up needs to be experienced before one can throw down comments like that. And thats before we go into game mechanics or alliance politics.
Metaphorically the "great bob war" atm is about shooting a broken lame horse. Sure the horse still has some kick left in it but essentially it knows its a goner. This little chapter of tpar was always gunna be a spectical. To wheel out a cannon to shoot the horse point blank in the head, knowing that a rifle would suffice, is a statement of strength, not a testimate of gentlemanly warfare. That element left this war literally years ago. Everyone is going to be interested to hear about it, even horse lovers
I disagree with you. It's really easy to motivate people to login and join the fight if they know they will be a part of a bigger blob. Look at MC, they didn't dare to put the capital ships on line alone against BOB, they knew that BOB would kill them all as they did RA's and many other in the past. But now, since they know BOB can't match that many capital ships, they put them on line with all RSF capitals. People are brave when in larger group, they take a few drinks, pick up forks and torches and lynch the guy they used to be scared off, while he is down.
poor bob, here's a tissue...
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Zorland
Minmatar
Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:25:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Zorland on 30/01/2008 07:25:56
Originally by: Local Her0
poor bob, here's a tissue...
I couldn't care less, I just hate blobing cowards and hyenas.
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ElweSingollo
Starlancers
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:45:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Zorland
Edited by: Zorland on 30/01/2008 07:25:56
Originally by: Local Her0
poor bob, here's a tissue...
I couldn't care less, I just hate blobing cowards and hyenas.
hmm do you hate BoB as well then as they have adopted that tactic in the past ec-p shipyards takedown spring to mind when BoB/Shinra provided caps (40-50 odd) which was a huge ammount back then and ASCN provided grunts to sit on the gates as cover when I was there local hit 540 the vast majority of which were bob/ascn/shinra.
BoB are on the back foot just now and massively outnumbered but it hasn't always been that way for them so they are not the knights in shing armor that fight fair and never blob tbh no large scale alliance is like that.
CCP and Eve Online... It's not a bug, it's a feature
In Before I Get M***** Again
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Zorland
Minmatar
Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:49:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Zorland on 30/01/2008 07:55:46
Edited by: Zorland on 30/01/2008 07:55:17
Edited by: Zorland on 30/01/2008 07:50:01
Originally by: ElweSingollo
Originally by: Zorland
Edited by: Zorland on 30/01/2008 07:25:56
Originally by: Local Her0
poor bob, here's a tissue...
I couldn't care less, I just hate blobing cowards and hyenas.
hmm do you hate BoB as well then as they have adopted that tactic in the past ec-p shipyards takedown spring to mind when BoB/Shinra provided caps (40-50 odd) which was a huge ammount back then and ASCN provided grunts to sit on the gates as cover when I was there local hit 540 the vast majority of which were bob/ascn/shinra.
BoB are on the back foot just now and massively outnumbered but it hasn't always been that way for them so they are not the knights in shing armor that fight fair and never blob tbh no large scale alliance is like that.
Dunno, maybe they did. And I didn't say BOB is knight in shiny armor, anyone that blobs and anyone that wants to win with sheer numbers rather then tactics is coward. But, that's CCPs fault. This game shouldn't be about who has bigger blob wins by default.
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Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:08:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Zorland
Dunno, maybe they did. And I didn't say BOB is knight in shiny armor, anyone that blobs and anyone that wants to win with sheer numbers rather then tactics is coward. But, that's CCPs fault. This game shouldn't be about who has bigger blob wins by default.
Propose better option! Perhaps CCP will even pay you for that.
If you don't have better option how to solve blobbing issue in game with modern hardware, stop farting here on forums.
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WuhnHungLo
Crazy Rebellious Agressors Purple
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:15:00 -
[117]
0.0 warfare really isn't about PVP skill. It's about politics. BoB fails at politics. I'll miss BoB, though. They created a lot of drama & entertainment. Unfortunately, creating a lot of drama isn't good for your health...
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Zorland
Minmatar
Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:16:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Zorland
Dunno, maybe they did. And I didn't say BOB is knight in shiny armor, anyone that blobs and anyone that wants to win with sheer numbers rather then tactics is coward. But, that's CCPs fault. This game shouldn't be about who has bigger blob wins by default.
Propose better option! Perhaps CCP will even pay you for that.
If you don't have better option how to solve blobbing issue in game with modern hardware, stop farting here on forums.
Ah so I am farting now? Would you say the same two years ago in CJ- before adopting Goon blob?
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:22:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Berrik Radhok on 30/01/2008 08:25:14
Since when is superior numbers not a good tactic? It's the oldest tactic, and one of the best.
Why is it the best? Because it works. How did RA originally get ground down? Too many enemies. How did ECP-8R go down? A force too large for most to oppose at the time.
Seeing a trend here? Numbers work. Who cares if someone has thirty "e733t" pilots in fully T2 fitted sniping battleships if the other guy brings 100 T1 fitted Rohks to the table?
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Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:26:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Zorland
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Zorland
Dunno, maybe they did. And I didn't say BOB is knight in shiny armor, anyone that blobs and anyone that wants to win with sheer numbers rather then tactics is coward. But, that's CCPs fault. This game shouldn't be about who has bigger blob wins by default.
Propose better option! Perhaps CCP will even pay you for that.
If you don't have better option how to solve blobbing issue in game with modern hardware, stop farting here on forums.
Ah so I am farting now? Would you say the same two years ago in CJ- before adopting Goon blob?
Yes. And before you ask ù no, I don't like blobs. But at least at the moment I don't see any better options within the game to achieve our goals. Our enemies did and do the same, so we had to and have to blob to fight the blob. Do you have better ideas?
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Minmatar
Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:36:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Zorland
Yes. And before you ask ù no, I don't like blobs. But at least at the moment I don't see any better options within the game to achieve our goals. Our enemies did and do the same, so we had to and have to blob to fight the blob. Do you have better ideas?
Titan was CCPs answer to blob. But then they succumbed to forum whiners how unfair is to be DD when blobing. So now we have people that are in game 3 months winning against the people that play the game for 3 years.... That's not right, we all know how important is time and training in this game. But I guess subscriptions and money is more important then that. I am not a game designer, I don't have any ideas about how they should stop blobs from forming and braking the server. All I know it makes a lot of people sick of blob being ultimate weapon.
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Malaphar
Amarr
Making Our Way to Stars
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:44:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Malaphar on 30/01/2008 08:44:59
Well , vast number superiority (aka Blob) only achieved 1 thing for the Coalition in the past months : endless killmail lists for BoB pilots!
The RA Titan maneuver was the only significant punch in BoB's belly (even if it happened while they were asleep within POS shields) in a very long time! But , a short while afterwards , in QY6 BoB settled things straight by killing almost same number of Goons&Allies BSs only this time in battle and with almost no casualties!I wonder how RA's Titan escaped that battle....curious huh? Maybe we can discuss in a new thread about this?
Of course it's obvious BoB has BY FAR the best Pilots and FCs in this game but even so , even if they keep killing Coalition ships at 5-10:1 ratio , the sheer numbers that keep comming will at some point leave BoB at least without ammo to keep shooting and killing!
And when BoB will remain without ammo , maybe - just MAYBE - at that point the Coalition will have a slight chance to advance a bit more!
Now start flaming and trolling!
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Captain Thunk
Captain Morgan Society
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:45:00 -
[123]
A vet should never lose to a pilot younger than himself, I think the game must be broken if this is indeed happening as reported.
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shimmyckus
Minmatar
Blood Covenant
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:55:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Zorland
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Zorland
Yes. And before you ask ù no, I don't like blobs. But at least at the moment I don't see any better options within the game to achieve our goals. Our enemies did and do the same, so we had to and have to blob to fight the blob. Do you have better ideas?
Titan was CCPs answer to blob. But then they succumbed to forum whiners how unfair is to be DD when blobing. So now we have people that are in game 3 months winning against the people that play the game for 3 years.... That's not right, we all know how important is time and training in this game. But I guess subscriptions and money is more important then that. I am not a game designer, I don't have any ideas about how they should stop blobs from forming and braking the server. All I know it makes a lot of people sick of blob being ultimate weapon.
So you are whining now coz you play game over 3 years and youre unabalbe to kill players who are playing 3 months? lol.
Titan is still answer to blob but you need to use it smart, its just not anymore 'I WIN BUTTON' so you can to jump intno system, DD 300 ppl and jump out without risk to losse it. Well if you continue to whine about that, mabye CCP will provede you with some new ultimate weapon where youll just need to hit button and kill all enemies in constallation...
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COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:55:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Zorland
Originally by: Pastora
Yes. And before you ask ù no, I don't like blobs. But at least at the moment I don't see any better options within the game to achieve our goals. Our enemies did and do the same, so we had to and have to blob to fight the blob. Do you have better ideas?
Titan was CCPs answer to blob. But then they succumbed to forum whiners how unfair is to be DD when blobing. So now we have people that are in game 3 months winning against the people that play the game for 3 years.... That's not right, we all know how important is time and training in this game. But I guess subscriptions and money is more important then that. I am not a game designer, I don't have any ideas about how they should stop blobs from forming and braking the server. All I know it makes a lot of people sick of blob being ultimate weapon.
Are you seriously suggesting that Titans able to fire a remote doomsday with half the titan still inside a pos shield, impossible to bump and protected by POS guns and conventionnal fleet, was balanced?
The one with biggest numbers tend to win. So what? That means that side has put more efforts into being in the battlefield than the other. Why shouldn't they have an advantage for that? And RSF blobs aren't just T1 frigs and cruisers. Only utter idiots still believe that.
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Minmatar
Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.30 09:04:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Malaphar
Edited by: Malaphar on 30/01/2008 08:44:59
Well , vast number superiority (aka Blob) only achieved 1 thing for the Coalition in the past months : endless killmail lists for BoB pilots!
The RA Titan maneuver was the only significant punch in BoB's belly (even if it happened while they were asleep within POS shields) in a very long time! But , a short while afterwards , in QY6 BoB settled things straight by killing almost same number of Goons&Allies BSs only this time in battle and with almost no casualties!I wonder how RA's Titan escaped that battle....curious huh? Maybe we can discuss in a new thread about this?
Of course it's obvious BoB has BY FAR the best Pilots and FCs in this game but even so , even if they keep killing Coalition ships at 5-10:1 ratio , the sheer numbers that keep comming will at some point leave BoB at least without ammo to keep shooting and killing!
And when BoB will remain without ammo , maybe - just MAYBE - at that point the Coalition will have a slight chance to advance a bit more!
Now start flaming and trolling!
The winner in the game should be determined in fleet battles. How can someone win fleet battles and still lose space? Game is broken and POS mechanics are broken. You shouldn't be able to win space if you lose battles. Wining fleet fights and winning space should be related, and blobs shouldn't be the ultimate weapon that is better then any other tactic.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 09:08:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Zorland
Originally by: Malaphar
Edited by: Malaphar on 30/01/2008 08:44:59
Well , vast number superiority (aka Blob) only achieved 1 thing for the Coalition in the past months : endless killmail lists for BoB pilots!
The RA Titan maneuver was the only significant punch in BoB's belly (even if it happened while they were asleep within POS shields) in a very long time! But , a short while afterwards , in QY6 BoB settled things straight by killing almost same number of Goons&Allies BSs only this time in battle and with almost no casualties!I wonder how RA's Titan escaped that battle....curious huh? Maybe we can discuss in a new thread about this?
Of course it's obvious BoB has BY FAR the best Pilots and FCs in this game but even so , even if they keep killing Coalition ships at 5-10:1 ratio , the sheer numbers that keep comming will at some point leave BoB at least without ammo to keep shooting and killing!
And when BoB will remain without ammo , maybe - just MAYBE - at that point the Coalition will have a slight chance to advance a bit more!
Now start flaming and trolling!
The winner in the game should be determined in fleet battles. How can someone win fleet battles and still lose space? Game is broken and POS mechanics are broken. You shouldn't be able to win space if you lose battles. Wining fleet fights and winning space should be related, and blobs shouldn't be the ultimate weapon that is better then any other tactic.
well in wwii in stalingrad russians won because they kept throwing privates on the battlefield, even if they lost lots of battles. And they won!
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Don Z0LA
Caldari
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2008.01.30 09:12:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Malaphar
Edited by: Malaphar on 30/01/2008 08:44:59
Well , vast number superiority (aka Blob) only achieved 1 thing for the Coalition in the past months : endless killmail lists for BoB pilots!
The RA Titan maneuver was the only significant punch in BoB's belly (even if it happened while they were asleep within POS shields) in a very long time! But , a short while afterwards , in QY6 BoB settled things straight by killing almost same number of Goons&Allies BSs only this time in battle and with almost no casualties!I wonder how RA's Titan escaped that battle....curious huh? Maybe we can discuss in a new thread about this?
Of course it's obvious BoB has BY FAR the best Pilots and FCs in this game but even so , even if they keep killing Coalition ships at 5-10:1 ratio , the sheer numbers that keep comming will at some point leave BoB at least without ammo to keep shooting and killing!
And when BoB will remain without ammo , maybe - just MAYBE - at that point the Coalition will have a slight chance to advance a bit more!
Now start flaming and trolling!
i loled :D
*cough*bobalt*cough*
P.S. extra lol for BY FAR best pilots :D
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GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 09:13:00 -
[129]
Edited by: Baxalusx on 30/01/2008 09:14:42
Originally by: Zorland
Originally by: Malaphar
Edited by: Malaphar on 30/01/2008 08:44:59
Well , vast number superiority (aka Blob) only achieved 1 thing for the Coalition in the past months : endless killmail lists for BoB pilots!
The RA Titan maneuver was the only significant punch in BoB's belly (even if it happened while they were asleep within POS shields) in a very long time! But , a short while afterwards , in QY6 BoB settled things straight by killing almost same number of Goons&Allies BSs only this time in battle and with almost no casualties!I wonder how RA's Titan escaped that battle....curious huh? Maybe we can discuss in a new thread about this?
Of course it's obvious BoB has BY FAR the best Pilots and FCs in this game but even so , even if they keep killing Coalition ships at 5-10:1 ratio , the sheer numbers that keep comming will at some point leave BoB at least without ammo to keep shooting and killing!
And when BoB will remain without ammo , maybe - just MAYBE - at that point the Coalition will have a slight chance to advance a bit more!
Now start flaming and trolling!
The winner in the game should be determined in fleet battles. How can someone win fleet battles and still lose space? Game is broken and POS mechanics are broken. You shouldn't be able to win space if you lose battles. Wining fleet fights and winning space should be related, and blobs shouldn't be the ultimate weapon that is better then any other tactic.
do you understand the difference between tactics and strategy
BoB can't compete with the Coalition strategically because they focus too much on the tactics. When the measurement for tactics become the stated point of a war for one participant, they inevitably lose a strategic fight such as a territorial war.
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Fendragun
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 09:26:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Darko1107
Lets have another stan post!
my new fav person in eve
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Former DICE ceo
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Zorland
Minmatar
Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.30 09:28:00 -
[131]
I think I will stop posting in this thread now. Coalition blobed me
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Khorian
Gallente
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.01.30 09:28:00 -
[132]
Tactics and strategy are different things. One is long term, the other short term. BoB acutally doesn't need to think strategically as much as the coalition does, since they are only defending a single Region.
With their tactics, they react to the invasion wich is totally normal. Right now, the Coalition is the one who has the initiative, so BoB has to react to attacks and can not so much plan in advance whats gonna happen. Thats the job of the coalition now.
Tactics are important in Battles, Strategies are important in wars.
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.01.30 09:52:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Zorland
Originally by: Malaphar
Edited by: Malaphar on 30/01/2008 08:44:59
Well , vast number superiority (aka Blob) only achieved 1 thing for the Coalition in the past months : endless killmail lists for BoB pilots!
The RA Titan maneuver was the only significant punch in BoB's belly (even if it happened while they were asleep within POS shields) in a very long time! But , a short while afterwards , in QY6 BoB settled things straight by killing almost same number of Goons&Allies BSs only this time in battle and with almost no casualties!I wonder how RA's Titan escaped that battle....curious huh? Maybe we can discuss in a new thread about this?
Of course it's obvious BoB has BY FAR the best Pilots and FCs in this game but even so , even if they keep killing Coalition ships at 5-10:1 ratio , the sheer numbers that keep comming will at some point leave BoB at least without ammo to keep shooting and killing!
And when BoB will remain without ammo , maybe - just MAYBE - at that point the Coalition will have a slight chance to advance a bit more!
Now start flaming and trolling!
The winner in the game should be determined in fleet battles. How can someone win fleet battles and still lose space? Game is broken and POS mechanics are broken. You shouldn't be able to win space if you lose battles. Wining fleet fights and winning space should be related, and blobs shouldn't be the ultimate weapon that is better then any other tactic.
Winning wars has never been about winning battles. Throughout history the side winning most of the battles has generally won the wars no more often than the side losing the battles. You can go from Hannibal kicking Roman ass for 12 years 2000 years ago yet still having his city ground into dust in the end; to Napoleon eventually losing simply because his opponents realised they didn't need to fight him to win the war. Then there are wars won by guirella action or simply outlasting the enemy, despite being totally outclassed in the feild i.e. vietnam vs france, vietnam vs china, vietnam vs u.s.a. What is great about eve is that this simple truth is actually reflected in game. Still, lag sucks.
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xttz
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:08:00 -
[134]
Edited by: xttz on 30/01/2008 10:09:50
Originally by: Zorland
The winner in the game should be determined in fleet battles. How can someone win fleet battles and still lose space? Game is broken and POS mechanics are broken. You shouldn't be able to win space if you lose battles. Wining fleet fights and winning space should be related, and blobs shouldn't be the ultimate weapon that is better then any other tactic.
I totally agree. If you win one fleet fight with blobbed capships under a cynojammer, while spending the remaining 22 hours of the day hugging pos shields and refusing to engage you should totally keep all four systems under siege silmultaneously.
Just ignore the fact that while Bob were walling themsleves into QY6, Y-2 was failing. Ignore the fact that while Bob repped their cynojammer within 1km of a pos shield, TPAR was lost. Ignore the fact that while the 150-strong Bob gang with 50 caps camped a gate under a cynojammer, they lost the last tower in SVM. An alliance should never ever lose 2 regions in one day because they killed a bunch of ships in a laggy suicidal cluster**** that the other side chose to jump into anyway.
Life would be so much easier if four year old characters and unlimited ISK still meant invincible solo pwnmobiles, wouldn't it? Who needs strategy when your elite characters cannot be countered?
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TWD
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:15:00 -
[135]
Edited by: TWD on 30/01/2008 10:15:45
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Zeveron
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:23:00 -
[136]
Quote:
Just ignore the fact....
you are not full of joy about your victories :-)
You won m8, be happy :-)
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Zorland
Minmatar
Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:25:00 -
[137]
Edited by: Zorland on 30/01/2008 10:25:59
Originally by: xttz
Edited by: xttz on 30/01/2008 10:09:50
Originally by: Zorland
The winner in the game should be determined in fleet battles. How can someone win fleet battles and still lose space? Game is broken and POS mechanics are broken. You shouldn't be able to win space if you lose battles. Wining fleet fights and winning space should be related, and blobs shouldn't be the ultimate weapon that is better then any other tactic.
I totally agree. If you win one fleet fight with blobbed capships under a cynojammer, while spending the remaining 22 hours of the day hugging pos shields and refusing to engage you should totally keep all four systems under siege silmultaneously.
Just ignore the fact that while Bob were walling themsleves into QY6, Y-2 was failing. Ignore the fact that while Bob repped their cynojammer within 1km of a pos shield, TPAR was lost. Ignore the fact that while the 150-strong Bob gang with 50 caps camped a gate under a cynojammer, they lost the last tower in SVM. An alliance should never ever lose 2 regions in one day because they killed a bunch of ships in a laggy suicidal cluster**** that the other side chose to jump into anyway.
Life would be so much easier if four year old characters and unlimited ISK still meant invincible solo pwnmobiles, wouldn't it? Who needs strategy when your elite characters cannot be countered?
Great strategy.
How much brain does it take when its EVE versus 1 alliance? ******* incompetent blobers.
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Garek
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:30:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Zorland
Great strategy.
How much brain does it take when its EVE versus 1 alliance? ******* incompetent blobers.
I thought BoB was invicible? ...
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Zorland
Minmatar
Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:31:00 -
[139]
Edited by: Zorland on 30/01/2008 10:33:34
Edited by: Zorland on 30/01/2008 10:32:09
Originally by: Garek
Originally by: Zorland
Great strategy.
How much brain does it take when its EVE versus 1 alliance? ******* incompetent blobers.
I thought BoB was invicible? ...
They might not be invincible, but they are certainly not cowards like some...
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Don ZOLA
Caldari
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:37:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Fendragun
Originally by: Darko1107
Lets have another stan post!
my new fav person in eve
FU :(:(:(:(:(:(:(
/emote is sad panda now :(
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:42:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Zorland
Edited by: Zorland on 30/01/2008 10:33:34
Edited by: Zorland on 30/01/2008 10:32:09
Originally by: Garek
Originally by: Zorland
Great strategy.
How much brain does it take when its EVE versus 1 alliance? ******* incompetent blobers.
I thought BoB was invicible? ...
They might not be invincible, but they are certainly not cowards like some...
They play as they need too.. it is better they know they arent good enough, than think they are..
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Fendragun
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:51:00 -
[142]
Originally by: xttz
Edited by: xttz on 30/01/2008 10:09:50
Originally by: Zorland
The winner in the game should be determined in fleet battles. How can someone win fleet battles and still lose space? Game is broken and POS mechanics are broken. You shouldn't be able to win space if you lose battles. Wining fleet fights and winning space should be related, and blobs shouldn't be the ultimate weapon that is better then any other tactic.
I totally agree. If you win one fleet fight with blobbed capships under a cynojammer, while spending the remaining 22 hours of the day hugging pos shields and refusing to engage you should totally keep all four systems under siege silmultaneously.
Just ignore the fact that while Bob were walling themsleves into QY6, Y-2 was failing. Ignore the fact that while Bob repped their cynojammer within 1km of a pos shield, TPAR was lost. Ignore the fact that while the 150-strong Bob gang with 50 caps camped a gate under a cynojammer, they lost the last tower in SVM. An alliance should never ever lose 2 regions in one day because they killed a bunch of ships in a laggy suicidal cluster**** that the other side chose to jump into anyway.
Life would be so much easier if four year old characters and unlimited ISK still meant invincible solo pwnmobiles, wouldn't it? Who needs strategy when your elite characters cannot be countered?
strategy ? lets put as many people as possible into one region.
well yep i guess it is a stratergy.
Ive been playing since the start and i dont believe that old characters should be unbeatable, infact i hope they arent.
Ive given up a lot the space you and RA hold, they used another great strategy to win (drop as many small pos as possible through the night).
I just wish the game would allow us to show you what we are capable of. hey ho have fun in delve taking stations e.t.c
Don Zola - no ak no love!
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Caldari
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:55:00 -
[143]
Edited by: Don Z0LA on 30/01/2008 10:55:29
Originally by: Fendragun
Originally by: xttz
Edited by: xttz on 30/01/2008 10:09:50
Originally by: Zorland
Tbla bla
stans bla bla to zorlands bla bla
Don Zola - no ak no love!
if you ever visited you would get it!
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Captain Thunk
Captain Morgan Society
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:03:00 -
[144]
Edited by: Captain Thunk on 30/01/2008 11:03:25
Originally by: Fendragun
strategy ? lets put as many people as possible into one region.
well yep i guess it is a stratergy.
Who are you talking about out of interest?
Bob all moved into one region and the coalitions followed so I'm a little confused as to whether you're dissing the coalition for following or dissing your strategists for the Great Plan of '06Ö
Thunk
PS sup Don, how's work?
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Don Z0LA
Caldari
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:05:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Captain Thunk
Edited by: Captain Thunk on 30/01/2008 11:03:25
Originally by: Fendragun
strategy ? lets put as many people as possible into one region.
well yep i guess it is a stratergy.
Who are you talking about out of interest?
Bob all moved into one region and the coalitions followed so I'm a little confused as to whether you're dissing the coalition for following or dissing your strategists for the Great Plan of '06Ö
Thunk
PS sup Don, how's work?
i think we better communicate over msn or smtha, we gonna get banned for chatin here :D
check pm on our forums ;)
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:18:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Echo147
Gotta love BoB's killboard going offline on a bad loss day
Funny to hear killboard comments from IRON.
Dear IRON! May I ask, have you already learned to post your losses on your own killboard?
You seem to lack brain and common sense to understand that the BoB's killboard might be down due one simple thing - heavy load, when half of EVE online players are spamming F5 on it like there is no tomorrow.
Sigh...
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Void Seller
All In Enterprise
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:21:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Garek
Originally by: Zorland
Great strategy.
How much brain does it take when its EVE versus 1 alliance? ******* incompetent blobers.
I thought BoB was invicible? ...
really? you are stupid then...
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Oli4Oli4
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:26:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Vendorella
Wherever he is... someone tell Cyvok that TPAR is down.
Finaly some good news for ASCN high command \0/. BTW: CYVOK IS BACK PLAYING!
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:33:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Fendragun
strategy ? lets put as many people as possible into one region.
well yep i guess it is a stratergy.
Indeed it is a strategy.
Another strategy is not to help allies under siege (RISE). And to give up regions without any fight at all (ISS). And to alienate allies which want to help (XELAS, M.PIRE). And to act like you know it all better and therefore drive away old friends (MC).
Question is just which strategy works better...
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HYPE MAN
Minmatar
PAYDAY MOTORCADE
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:39:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Zorland
So now we have people that are in game 3 months winning against the people that play the game for 3 years.... That's not right, we all know how important is time and training in this game. But I guess subscriptions and money is more important then that. I am not a game designer, I don't have any ideas about how they should stop blobs from forming and braking the server. All I know it makes a lot of people sick of blob being ultimate weapon.
Haha, reading this make me think of THIS.
As for all the "woe is me, there are too many nubs for me to kill" or whatever whine you are going on about. Perhaps you should stop and think how you ended up in this particular dilemma.
As for the whole blobbage you are crying about, no 0.0 alliance is innocent of that so quit wasting yer breath.
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Gallente
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:49:00 -
[151]
Quote:
Haha, reading this make me think of THIS.
LOL!
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Kera Delacour
Evenstar Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:54:00 -
[152]
Edited by: Kera Delacour on 30/01/2008 11:55:40
I believe this can all be summed up by one simple phrase:
"I blame Mynas".
Some day I have to find out why Mynas is so loved/hated by everyone in this conflict :)
On a more serious note:
Why is BoB complaining about blobs? It's not like they never used blobs themselves in this war. The bottom line is that goons (lord only knows how) managed to make friends while BoB apparently managed to alienate the entire EVE community.
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Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:59:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Zorland
How much brain does it take when its EVE versus 1 alliance?
How much brain does it take to understand that they are themselves responsible for getting themselves into a situation like that? And anyway, that was their plan...
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:09:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Fendragun
strategy ? lets put as many people as possible into one region.
well yep i guess it is a stratergy.
Ive been playing since the start and i dont believe that old characters should be unbeatable, infact i hope they arent.
Ive given up a lot the space you and RA hold, they used another great strategy to win (drop as many small pos as possible through the night).
That's what you don't get: You are losing this war because the coalition member alliances are miles and leagues ahead of you in terms of recruitment, organization and diplomacy, as well as a score of other functions of an alliance that I like to call support roles. That's what "blobbing" is really all about: recruitment, organization, and diplomacy. They're a part of war, as much as participation, money, individual combat skill and logistics. Deal with it.
Originally by: Fendragun
I just wish the game would allow us to show you what we are capable of. hey ho have fun in delve taking stations e.t.c
The game is no longer just about fleet fights, typing o7 and smacking the hostiles in local. Morale, logistics, economics, diplomacy, intel, intra-alliance politicking, long term strategic thinking and a myriad of other things now factor in when a war is fought. BoB did not adapt to the game changing, and now BoB are going to die, because BoB is not good enough to survive in today's EVE.
That's all there is to that, and knowing that BoB isn't good enough to make the cut in today's EVE gives me a warm fuzzy feeling of schadenfreude.
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Phyrron
Gallente
Burnout Syndrome
SECUWAY.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:12:00 -
[155]
Edited by: Phyrron on 30/01/2008 12:15:04
Edited by: Phyrron on 30/01/2008 12:14:39
Edited by: Phyrron on 30/01/2008 12:14:17
They come with 10:1 and they going with 1:4 ... pure facts, nothing more!
go home
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Le Cardinal
ECP Rogues
The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:19:00 -
[156]
Seems to me that most parts have fun in this conflict regardless of what side they are on. Lots of kills and lots of fun, despite the drawbacks with large fleets on each side. Lag and stuff like that.
Only thing that keep me wondering is the amount of smack in each post as soon as someone post anything about either the coalition or gbc. Bob brought this on themselves when they acted like they did back vs ascn etc. But now the coalition vs bob act exactly like bob did when they were on the winning side. Your lowering yourselves to the lvl of arrogance and sickening attitude that bob showed when they rolled over ascn. I do ,however, hope and assume that the majority of the coalition vs bob do not act ingame the way some ppl do on caod.
Anyways, gj to the coalition for pushing bob back into delve. Hope you continue to have some good fights.
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Asterixm
Minmatar
Altera Odyssea
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:30:00 -
[157]
Edited by: Asterixm on 30/01/2008 12:32:45
Edited by: Asterixm on 30/01/2008 12:32:08
Edited by: Asterixm on 30/01/2008 12:31:17
Originally by: Zorland
The winner in the game should be determined in fleet battles. How can someone win fleet battles and still lose space? Game is broken and POS mechanics are broken. You shouldn't be able to win space if you lose battles. Wining fleet fights and winning space should be related, and blobs shouldn't be the ultimate weapon that is better then any other tactic.
The attacker want to breack POS.
The defender must defend POS.
The goal of the attacker is to detroy POS, that don't matter about loss.
Win a fleet battle is a good thing anyway if you lose the POS that's mean you loss the battle.
War here is not about fleet battle, it's about POS only.
Bob lost all his allies and fail to find others, everydody's enjoy to kick their ass away in jita so we do it.
Anyway they don't want space or region or anything so we are in perfect world because everybody win.
We are just helping them to achieve their goal. (Hey Molle, just say "Thanks")
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:47:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Khorian
Tactics and strategy are different things. One is long term, the other short term. BoB acutally doesn't need to think strategically as much as the coalition does, since they are only defending a single Region.
With their tactics, they react to the invasion wich is totally normal. Right now, the Coalition is the one who has the initiative, so BoB has to react to attacks and can not so much plan in advance whats gonna happen. Thats the job of the coalition now.
Tactics are important in Battles, Strategies are important in wars.
Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
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Royaldo
Gallente
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:49:00 -
[159]
Originally by: dr shark
O my my, never knew we made this much bitternes in ppl hearts.
Dungar, i cant remember of all faces, were you one of with tears in the eyes as well?
Can I somehow apologize for all the griefing me and my brothers did to you and your friends. Would that stop all of harsh punishment coming at us?
My friends are realy emotional guys and this sort of harasment we expiriance with all these regions we lost....might be to much for many to take
this is quite funny to read considering your personal attack on aneu.
dice is one classy act.
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Fendragun
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:55:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Baxalusx
Originally by: Fendragun
strategy ? lets put as many people as possible into one region.
well yep i guess it is a stratergy.
Ive been playing since the start and i dont believe that old characters should be unbeatable, infact i hope they arent.
Ive given up a lot the space you and RA hold, they used another great strategy to win (drop as many small pos as possible through the night).
That's what you don't get: You are losing this war because the coalition member alliances are miles and leagues ahead of you in terms of recruitment, organization and diplomacy, as well as a score of other functions of an alliance that I like to call support roles. That's what "blobbing" is really all about: recruitment, organization, and diplomacy. They're a part of war, as much as participation, money, individual combat skill and logistics. Deal with it.
Originally by: Fendragun
I just wish the game would allow us to show you what we are capable of. hey ho have fun in delve taking stations e.t.c
The game is no longer just about fleet fights, typing o7 and smacking the hostiles in local. Morale, logistics, economics, diplomacy, intel, intra-alliance politicking, long term strategic thinking and a myriad of other things now factor in when a war is fought. BoB did not adapt to the game changing, and now BoB are going to die, because BoB is not good enough to survive in today's EVE.
That's all there is to that, and knowing that BoB isn't good enough to make the cut in today's EVE gives me a warm fuzzy feeling of schadenfreude.
the funny thing is you think bob will go away.
also not being good enough for the game LOL.
You talk about you group being good enough and being able to form relationships and build coalitions. great good for you, been there seen it got every t shirt known to eve kind.
It took the biggest coalition in the game to get to this point and it still isnt over. we keep wipping the floor against your fleets and you keep knocking down pos. you think we arent good enough to do logistics or maintaining pos or developing relationships.
we have more titans than any other alliance in game. DICE a corp of however many has more titans than the whole of goons. you think we arent good at the game.
We may lose our space to this coalition and we might lose our pos, but our ability to play this game hasnt been lost. We held alot of space and made some good money. we built up industries that still survive without space. hell every one in dice pays 100mill a month tax and they do it while putting ships on the line and fighting you and without doing it in our space.
WE understand the game and we are good enough, hell if ali had 5 george formans on him he might have lost.
We might lose our space but to think you will have removed us from the fight is the most ******** thing a goon member could ever think.
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Former ATUK director
Former MACE ceo
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Nekumi
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:01:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Fendragun
the funny thing is you think bob will go away.
also not being good enough for the game LOL.
You talk about you group being good enough and being able to form relationships and build coalitions. great good for you, been there seen it got every t shirt known to eve kind.
It took the biggest coalition in the game to get to this point and it still isnt over. we keep wipping the floor against your fleets and you keep knocking down pos. you think we arent good enough to do logistics or maintaining pos or developing relationships.
we have more titans than any other alliance in game. DICE a corp of however many has more titans than the whole of goons. you think we arent good at the game.
We may lose our space to this coalition and we might lose our pos, but our ability to play this game hasnt been lost. We held alot of space and made some good money. we built up industries that still survive without space. hell every one in dice pays 100mill a month tax and they do it while putting ships on the line and fighting you and without doing it in our space.
WE understand the game and we are good enough, hell if ali had 5 george formans on him he might have lost.
We might lose our space but to think you will have removed us from the fight is the most ******** thing a goon member could ever think.
As long as you guys are happy with the situation, then nothing else matters. Keep the faith BoB, I cherish the amusement it brings me.
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:05:00 -
[162]
If you guys post this same message a few more times to yourselves over a few more message forums, you might actually start to believe yourselves...and that dark, nagging feeling in the back of your minds, the knowledge that soon you'll be a bunch of pirates with cap ships doomed to be just the scourge of Aridia...well you might drive that nagging thought out of your heads.
You might.
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"PT, you are a complete and total jerk."
Yes. Yes I am.
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:07:00 -
[163]
Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
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xBOS (CA)
ATUK (.5.)
DICE (BOB)
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WowZilla
The Leeroy Jenkins Project
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:20:00 -
[164]
Edited by: WowZilla on 30/01/2008 13:19:55
Originally by: Fendragun
WE understand the game and we are good enough, hell if ali had 5 george formans on him he might have lost.
Stan is my new favourite bobbit and that is a class quote.
you're still going to lose all your space tho
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Caldari
Fury Corp.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:22:00 -
[165]
Originally by: thoth foc
Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
Post with your main, The 5 died along time ago.
Also I heard Bob are now only rated no 4 powerhouse, behing RA, Goons, AAA
Funny how things turn out, now BoBs old spin masters are back trying to salvage some pride
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:22:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Fendragun
the funny thing is you think bob will go away.
also not being good enough for the game LOL.
You talk about you group being good enough and being able to form relationships and build coalitions. great good for you, been there seen it got every t shirt known to eve kind.
It took the biggest coalition in the game to get to this point and it still isnt over. we keep wipping the floor against your fleets and you keep knocking down pos. you think we arent good enough to do logistics or maintaining pos or developing relationships.
we have more titans than any other alliance in game. DICE a corp of however many has more titans than the whole of goons. you think we arent good at the game.
We may lose our space to this coalition and we might lose our pos, but our ability to play this game hasnt been lost. We held alot of space and made some good money. we built up industries that still survive without space. hell every one in dice pays 100mill a month tax and they do it while putting ships on the line and fighting you and without doing it in our space.
WE understand the game and we are good enough, hell if ali had 5 george formans on him he might have lost.
We might lose our space but to think you will have removed us from the fight is the most ******** thing a goon member could ever think.
Of course BoB will go away. Every entity going through an identity crisis, like being beaten at their own game, goes through the normal phases of loss collectively. Like the alliances that died before you, you hold out until the last hope dies out, constantly clinging to a desperate belief that you will go on after the last POS falls.
LV did this, V did this, and you too will fall victim to this, because you never understood the full scope of the game or how you can use it. Your narrowsighted view of war wherein only K/D "should" matter, your dominant attitude, your inability to make friends with other alliances, all these contributed to this.
You are not good enough. EVE is removing you from 0.0 because you are not up to the task of holding space, and your arrogant posturing finally warranted action from powers that all along had the power to kill you. You think you fight some epic fight and you'll go on to fight as guerillas and blah blah, but it's like watching a guy pushing against a tectonic plate. When the last POS falls, your membership will dwindle and your alliance will become insignificant, because that's what alliances who lose their space do, and you are not a special snowflake, no matter how many times you tell yourselves otherwise.
Now get back in that POS shield and talk about how much you love that K/D ratio so we can get this over with. You did want those regions, you just can't rationalize the loss of them with your desire for them because to do so would be to admit defeat to yourself and ruin the illusion of hope.
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Saffronique
Blue Sky Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:28:00 -
[167]
TPAR-G station
Paging Mr Molle to this thread. In one of your recent morale blogs.. you found Dubya choking on a pretzel rather amusing.. and quite epic.. Can I get your thoughts on the TPAR seige.. and If you are infact choking on your own words right now?
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:29:00 -
[168]
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: thoth foc
Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
Post with your main, The 5 died along time ago.
Also I heard Bob are now only rated no 4 powerhouse, behing RA, Goons, AAA
Funny how things turn out, now BoBs old spin masters are back trying to salvage some pride
wow... you heard?!?!? OMG?!?!? REALLY?!?!
I'll believe when i see it ingame.. 
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xBOS (CA)
ATUK (.5.)
DICE (BOB)
xElcyion Lacar
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KeyuserII
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:30:00 -
[169]
When this war started bob had just as many allies.Not anyone's faulght but their own.
BoB is not fighting alone in this.Even after all they lost they are still supported at least by other 3-4 alliances, many alt corps(see bob whine posts).
Talking about "blobs" from bob is really neat and gives me a good feeling.Anyone rememeber Ec-,stain,north,ascn etc.Yes so stop being hypocritical BoB, we all rememeber your words.
BoB rest easy thinking to yourself "Hai we will always control these people game.They have no choice, but to play under our rules now.They play our game." right..... riiiggghhht.
Just enjoy all the fights you wanted and stop whining.With all the lag; all the crap we are enjoying everything.Even with your *** camping of gates with 20+ carreirs fighters out and podding pod's for lag(yes we know you only want epic fleet fights..right..riiiigggghhhtt).
Also don't say a thing about alts posting when it's very clear 20% of BoB post with alt corps.
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TWD
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:33:00 -
[170]
Originally by: KeyuserII
When this war started bob had just as many allies.Not anyone's faulght but their own.
We had allies? I thought the coalition always said we had only pets.
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Shadowsword
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:33:00 -
[171]
Edited by: Shadowsword on 30/01/2008 13:33:36
Originally by: Zorland
Great strategy.
How much brain does it take when its EVE versus 1 alliance? ******* incompetent blobers.
Anger management issues?
If a game makes you froth at the mouth, maybe you should consider stepping away from it for a while...
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Nekumi
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:34:00 -
[172]
Edited by: Nekumi on 30/01/2008 13:34:03
Originally by: TWD
We had allies? I thought the coalition always said we had only pets.
Which is it?
Pets
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Belija'al
Amarr
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:34:00 -
[173]
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: thoth foc
Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
Post with your main, The 5 died along time ago.
Also I heard Bob are now only rated no 4 powerhouse, behing RA, Goons, AAA
Funny how things turn out, now BoBs old spin masters are back trying to salvage some pride
when it comes to spaceholding - yes.
killboard statistics or warfare or war in summary (pvp to) bob is still number one and rounded ra and other alliances in a lot of ways.
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend. even if you defeat delve, the legend you will never defeat. it took whole eve to do something against bob. everybody knows that no matter what goons claim.
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KeyuserII
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:39:00 -
[174]
*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Navigator ([email protected])
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King Fury
Caldari
Fury Corp.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:40:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Belija'al
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: thoth foc
Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
Post with your main, The 5 died along time ago.
Also I heard Bob are now only rated no 4 powerhouse, behing RA, Goons, AAA
Funny how things turn out, now BoBs old spin masters are back trying to salvage some pride
when it comes to spaceholding - yes.
killboard statistics or warfare or war in summary (pvp to) bob is still number one and rounded ra and other alliances in a lot of ways.
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend. even if you defeat delve, the legend you will never defeat. it took whole eve to do something against bob. everybody knows that no matter what goons claim.
LOL, you are joking, right
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Captain Thunk
Captain Morgan Society
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:40:00 -
[176]
Originally by: TWD
We had allies? I thought the coalition always said we had only pets.
Which is it?
Bob called them "Pets" they called themselves "Allies" and the coalition called them "Primary"
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Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:42:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Belija'al
There is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there.
What?! Do you also believe in dragons and elves?
And are you sure you are talking about everybody or about your own friends only? Maybe this is the reason why we ù "coalition" ù don't understand this because we are not among those "everybodies"?
Yes, some people might respect BoB in a way, but it doesn't make them a legend, at least not in my eyes (even within character).
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Belija'al
Amarr
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:42:00 -
[178]
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: Belija'al
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: thoth foc
Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
Post with your main, The 5 died along time ago.
Also I heard Bob are now only rated no 4 powerhouse, behing RA, Goons, AAA
Funny how things turn out, now BoBs old spin masters are back trying to salvage some pride
when it comes to spaceholding - yes.
killboard statistics or warfare or war in summary (pvp to) bob is still number one and rounded ra and other alliances in a lot of ways.
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend. even if you defeat delve, the legend you will never defeat. it took whole eve to do something against bob. everybody knows that no matter what goons claim.
LOL, you are joking, right
LOL, you are who?
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OSughhi
Romanian Army of ManiaCS
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:42:00 -
[179]
As I can see from this forum, goons kick hard bob and they are supported by a lot of fans. In fact one lousy DD inside shield POS killed mostly bob BS in this war. Keep going your good work. I am proud.
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Belija'al
Amarr
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:44:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Belija'al
There is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there.
What?! Do you also believe in dragons and elves?
And are you sure you are talking about everybody or about your own friends only? Maybe this is the reason why we ù "coalition" ù don't understand this because we are not among those "everybodies"?
Yes, some people might respect BoB in a way, but it doesn't make them a legend, at least not in my eyes (even within character).
even if (and thats a bi IF) you defeat us people will still talk abouzt BoB for a long time. i think this is what is recognized under the term "legend". search wikkipedia if you want
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:45:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Belija'al
Edited by: Belija''al on 30/01/2008 13:39:01
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: thoth foc
Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
Post with your main, The 5 died along time ago.
Also I heard Bob are now only rated no 4 powerhouse, behing RA, Goons, AAA
Funny how things turn out, now BoBs old spin masters are back trying to salvage some pride
when it comes to spaceholding - yes.
killboard statistics or warfare or war in summary (pvp to) bob is still number one and rounded ra and other alliances in a lot of ways.
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend. even if you defeat delve, the legend you will never defeat. it took whole eve to do something against bob. everybody knows that no matter what goons claim.
even your little forum campaign is copied from bob.
when people ask you how dod you defeat bob in pvp what will you answere? =we used their tactics against them?
when people ask you how you defeated bob on forums what will you answere? =we used their tactics against them?
when people ask you how you tok delve what will you answere? =we blobbed them? (not our tactic ;))
This is all well and good, but every reason you posted that makes BoB a legend was done before DICE joined. You guys are like the beta version Finfleet.
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KeyuserII
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:45:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Belija'al
Edited by: Belija''al on 30/01/2008 13:41:13
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: thoth foc
Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
Post with your main, The 5 died along time ago.
Also I heard Bob are now only rated no 4 powerhouse, behing RA, Goons, AAA
Funny how things turn out, now BoBs old spin masters are back trying to salvage some pride
when it comes to spaceholding - yes.
killboard statistics or warfare or war in summary (pvp to) bob is still number one and rounded ra and other alliances in a lot of ways.
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend. even if you defeat delve, the legend you will never defeat. it took whole eve to do something against bob. everybody knows that no matter what goons claim.
even your little forum campaign is copied from bob.
when people ask you how dod you defeat bob in pvp what will you answere? =we used their tactics against them?
when people ask you how you defeated bob on forums what will you answere? =we used their tactics against them?
when people ask you how you tok delve what will you answere? =we blobbed them? (not our tactic ;))
famous movie quote: you need people like us so you can put your ******* fingers on us and say "thats the bad guy"!
Legend.
BoB lost GM spawning bpo's -check-
BoB lost any info said "help" was giving them -check-
BoB lost the PVP tourney -check-
BoB lost most friends and allies -check-
BoB lost 75% of space they held -check-
BoB lose systems everyday -check-
BoB pillage pilots from defeated(allies) corps -check-
I could go on forver.
You are still the beacon to what Alliances need to strive for in EVE.Welcome to 2008 m8, it's not 2006 anymore.BBQ is over.
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Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:45:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Belija'al
even if (and thats a bi IF) you defeat us people will still talk abouzt BoB for a long time. i think this is what is recognized under the term "legend". search wikkipedia if you want
Let's see, let's see...
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If ifs and ands were pots and pans,
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Dana Foxworth
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:46:00 -
[184]
People talk about the lady who stuck her cat in a microwave after a bath as well.
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Captain Thunk
Captain Morgan Society
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:46:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Belija'al
LOL, you are who?
Interesting speech and comments from a guy who's only ever shot at 6 ships ever according to his own killboard.
Take it you're a new guy wanting to cash in on "The Legend"? 
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:46:00 -
[186]
Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 30/01/2008 13:46:53
Hey if BoB becomes a roaming alliance, free from POS warfare, does this mean they'll do something different from camping the same gate waiting for the others to jump in? Important question.
-clp
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Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:48:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Dana Foxworth
People talk about the lady who stuck her cat in a microwave after a bath as well.
C'mon, don't be so nasty! :)
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If ifs and ands were pots and pans,
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Thargat
Caldari
North Star Networks
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:49:00 -
[188]
Edited by: Thargat on 30/01/2008 13:51:17
Originally by: Baxalusx
Of course BoB will go away. Every entity going through an identity crisis, like being beaten at their own game, goes through the normal phases of loss collectively. Like the alliances that died before you, you hold out until the last hope dies out, constantly clinging to a desperate belief that you will go on after the last POS falls.
LV did this, V did this, and you too will fall victim to this, because you never understood the full scope of the game or how you can use it. Your narrowsighted view of war wherein only K/D "should" matter, your dominant attitude, your inability to make friends with other alliances, all these contributed to this.
You are not good enough. EVE is removing you from 0.0 because you are not up to the task of holding space, and your arrogant posturing finally warranted action from powers that all along had the power to kill you.
Quality poastings ftw
Maybe bob dies in delve, maybe they don't. It's eve history in the making anyhow
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DiaBlo UK
North Siders
Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:50:00 -
[189]
Far too much hostility here.
This thread is Offically Apporved as a thread that makes you sad, by the Sad Panda
So ic the 'Great War' too for that matter
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Belija'al
Amarr
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:53:00 -
[190]
Edited by: Belija''al on 30/01/2008 13:54:15
Originally by: Captain Thunk
Originally by: Belija'al
LOL, you are who?
Interesting speech and comments from a guy who's only ever shot at 6 ships ever according to his own killboard.
Take it you're a new guy wanting to cash in on "The Legend"?
capital alt belija'al
Mainchar
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King Fury
Caldari
Fury Corp.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:53:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Belija'al
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: Belija'al
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: thoth foc
Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
Post with your main, The 5 died along time ago.
Also I heard Bob are now only rated no 4 powerhouse, behing RA, Goons, AAA
Funny how things turn out, now BoBs old spin masters are back trying to salvage some pride
when it comes to spaceholding - yes.
killboard statistics or warfare or war in summary (pvp to) bob is still number one and rounded ra and other alliances in a lot of ways.
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend. even if you defeat delve, the legend you will never defeat. it took whole eve to do something against bob. everybody knows that no matter what goons claim.
LOL, you are joking, right
LOL, you are who?
I dont claim to be a legend
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TWD
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:55:00 -
[192]
Originally by: KeyuserII
BoB lost the PVP tourney -check-
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Stahlregen
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:55:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Belija'al
Edited by: Belija''al on 30/01/2008 13:41:13
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: thoth foc
Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
Post with your main, The 5 died along time ago.
Also I heard Bob are now only rated no 4 powerhouse, behing RA, Goons, AAA
Funny how things turn out, now BoBs old spin masters are back trying to salvage some pride
when it comes to spaceholding - yes.
killboard statistics or warfare or war in summary (pvp to) bob is still number one and rounded ra and other alliances in a lot of ways.
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend. even if you defeat delve, the legend you will never defeat. it took whole eve to do something against bob. everybody knows that no matter what goons claim.
even your little forum campaign is copied from bob.
when people ask you how dod you defeat bob in pvp what will you answere? =we used their tactics against them?
when people ask you how you defeated bob on forums what will you answere? =we used their tactics against them?
when people ask you how you tok delve what will you answere? =we blobbed them? (not our tactic ;))
famous movie quote: you need people like us so you can put your ******* fingers on us and say "thats the bad guy"!
Okay bud, keep telling yourself that if it will help you sleep better.
The fact of the matter is that it's quite evident you and many other bob members are caught in the emotional roller coaster of the failure cascade. It seems that just about everyone but bob realises this, Which as you guys love to point out is %90 of EVE.
You can say that you are legend and that you are the be all and end all but at the end of the day, when you're getting camped into NPC stations and no one believes your self proclamations of greatness it really just makes you look like yet another two-bit alliance circling the drain, Which by the way already make up like 50% of your alliance. (LV, RISE, ECT)
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Moctobot
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:55:00 -
[194]
one day firstname lastname is going to own your alliance name
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Stahlregen
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:59:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Moctobot
one day firstname lastname is going to own your alliance name
pretty much dis
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Captain Thunk
Captain Morgan Society
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:00:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Belija'al
Edited by: Belija''al on 30/01/2008 13:54:15
Originally by: Captain Thunk
Originally by: Belija'al
LOL, you are who?
Interesting speech and comments from a guy who's only ever shot at 6 ships ever according to his own killboard.
Take it you're a new guy wanting to cash in on "The Legend"?
capital alt belija'al
Mainchar
That makes it worse then as now it sounds like you actually mean what you're saying
lol
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:05:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
This is all well and good, but every reason you posted that makes BoB a legend was done before DICE joined. You guys are like the beta version Finfleet.
welp!
We're so new to BOB :-(
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xBOS (CA)
ATUK (.5.)
DICE (BOB)
xElcyion Lacar
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Belija'al
Amarr
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:06:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Captain Thunk
Originally by: Belija'al
Edited by: Belija''al on 30/01/2008 13:54:15
Originally by: Captain Thunk
Originally by: Belija'al
LOL, you are who?
Interesting speech and comments from a guy who's only ever shot at 6 ships ever according to his own killboard.
Take it you're a new guy wanting to cash in on "The Legend"?
capital alt belija'al
Mainchar
That makes it worse then as now it sounds like you actually mean what you're saying
lol
quoted for thing about my 6 kills m8. talking about the legend of bob not me. I aint legend and I dont want to be something similar.
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Goedekke Michels
Caldari
Rhinemetal Steelworks
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:11:00 -
[199]
BoB caimed to be a Legend ? For what ?
-They still have their reputation as cheaters.... that makes them be Legend ?
-They claim a perfect KB ration and the reputation as uber-Killers in PvP, but they didnt post all of their losses (as many others too) so they will allways have the "perfect ratio" (that doesnt mean that only BoB did that, but most of other corps or alliances doesnt claim the status "Legend")
-They are a Legend for "stand alone against Eve" ? When they start their "nice region, we take it"-campaign, they got a lot of friends, a lot of allies and pets. They betrayed them, ignore them and use them as a meatshield and now claim the "BoB is Legend" title for that ?
Guys, really, send me a bottle of what you drink, i will have the same, seems to be good stuff...
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:11:00 -
[200]
Edited by: Baxalusx on 30/01/2008 14:12:14
Originally by: Belija'al
Edited by: Belija''al on 30/01/2008 13:41:13
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: thoth foc
Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
Post with your main, The 5 died along time ago.
Also I heard Bob are now only rated no 4 powerhouse, behing RA, Goons, AAA
Funny how things turn out, now BoBs old spin masters are back trying to salvage some pride
when it comes to spaceholding - yes.
killboard statistics or warfare or war in summary (pvp to) bob is still number one and rounded ra and other alliances in a lot of ways.
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend. even if you defeat delve, the legend you will never defeat. it took whole eve to do something against bob. everybody knows that no matter what goons claim.
even your little forum campaign is copied from bob.
when people ask you how dod you defeat bob in pvp what will you answere? =we used their tactics against them?
when people ask you how you defeated bob on forums what will you answere? =we used their tactics against them?
when people ask you how you tok delve what will you answere? =we blobbed them? (not our tactic ;))
famous movie quote: you need people like us so you can put your ******* fingers on us and say "thats the bad guy"!
The only thing I'm starting to understand is that BoB suffers from delusions of grandeur.
But for what it's worth, we seem to be making progress in making you all psychologically accept the loss in this thread here, so I guess that's a good thing.
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:15:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Baxalusx
But for what it's worth, we seem to be making progress in making you all psychologically accept the loss in this thread here, so I guess that's a good thing.
Oh you are! we're dead!
For what it's worth.. you do seem to be convincing yourselves it is a loss for us..
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xBOS (CA)
ATUK (.5.)
DICE (BOB)
xElcyion Lacar
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Belija'al
Amarr
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:17:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Baxalusx
Edited by: Baxalusx on 30/01/2008 14:12:14
Originally by: Belija'al
Edited by: Belija''al on 30/01/2008 13:41:13
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: thoth foc
Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
Post with your main, The 5 died along time ago.
Also I heard Bob are now only rated no 4 powerhouse, behing RA, Goons, AAA
Funny how things turn out, now BoBs old spin masters are back trying to salvage some pride
when it comes to spaceholding - yes.
killboard statistics or warfare or war in summary (pvp to) bob is still number one and rounded ra and other alliances in a lot of ways.
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend. even if you defeat delve, the legend you will never defeat. it took whole eve to do something against bob. everybody knows that no matter what goons claim.
even your little forum campaign is copied from bob.
when people ask you how dod you defeat bob in pvp what will you answere? =we used their tactics against them?
when people ask you how you defeated bob on forums what will you answere? =we used their tactics against them?
when people ask you how you tok delve what will you answere? =we blobbed them? (not our tactic ;))
famous movie quote: you need people like us so you can put your ******* fingers on us and say "thats the bad guy"!
The only thing I'm starting to understand is that BoB suffers from delusions of grandeur.
But for what it's worth, we seem to be making progress in making you all psychologically accept the loss in this thread here, so I guess that's a good thing.
slowly but shurely i start to understand the american law and why there are warnings on every item in america like "Do not dry cats in Microwaves. Things are closer than they appear. Cautions coffee may be hot (lol?)". You guys (especially goons) need to be told every single word twice to understand it. Just imagine every seccond word in my previous posts is an big "IF". and you will see your statement is obsolete.
enough forum for this week.
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Captain Thunk
Captain Morgan Society
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:19:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Belija'al
quoted for thing about my 6 kills m8. talking about the legend of bob not me. I aint legend and I dont want to be something similar otherwise i would call my chars "Legend One" "Legend Two" etc... the shortest way is the easiest
Trust me Nero, after that beautiful speech on "The legend that is BoB" you'll always be a Legend now.
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Stahlregen
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:22:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Belija'al
Please do not pyramid post. ~Saint
slowly but shurely i start to understand the american law and why there are warnings on every item in america like "Do not dry cats in Microwaves. Things are closer than they appear. Cautions coffee may be hot (lol?)". You guys (especially goons) need to be told every single word twice to understand it. Just imagine every seccond word in my previous posts is an big "IF". and you will see your statement is obsolete.
enough forum for this week.
I think it's more to do with everyone thinking you're full of ****.
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C C P
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:26:00 -
[205]
Watch the pyramid quoting in this thread please. Other wise I might have to start throwing down some warnings.
Saint
Community Representative
EVE Online, CCP Games
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amagonsan
Minmatar
Perpetual Reality Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:28:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Belija'al
Edited by: Belija''al on 30/01/2008 13:41:13
when it comes to spaceholding - yes.
killboard statistics or warfare or war in summary (pvp to) bob is still number one and rounded ra and other alliances in a lot of ways.
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend. even if you defeat delve, the legend you will never defeat. it took whole eve to do something against bob. everybody knows that no matter what goons claim.
even your little forum campaign is copied from bob.
when people ask you how dod you defeat bob in pvp what will you answere? =we used their tactics against them?
when people ask you how you defeated bob on forums what will you answere? =we used their tactics against them?
when people ask you how you tok delve what will you answere? =we blobbed them? (not our tactic ;))
famous movie quote: you need people like us so you can put your ******* fingers on us and say "thats the bad guy"!
Its strange, i've been on bob's side for a long time, but this statement clearly shows why BoB's allies are abandoning them on mass..
How would the universe looked like if BoB actualy cared a bit about their allies? Most of their allies would have still existed, and how ever they might have consisted of alot of farmers, with half of the eve population on their side on paper, the other half might not have been so eager to attack.
MC polly wouldn't have switched sides then, YW/spear would still exist and support them with ships. M.Pire and Falen would also be alive still and on your side..
Yes you would polly have gotten your self into war with tri.. but wouldn't that have been preferable then the current situation.. What ever the outcome, i suggest BoB leadership seriously reconsiders the way how they deal with their allies, because all this time they are supporting you with ships, time and space but what little have you done to them in return.
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INZi
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:29:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Belija'al
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend. even if you defeat delve, the legend you will never defeat. it took whole eve to do something against bob. everybody knows that no matter what goons claim.
even your little forum campaign is copied from bob.
lol
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K'reemy G'udness
The Greater Goon
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:32:00 -
[208]
Yeah, a year from now people will say, "Boy that BoB sure was a legend. Where are they now I wonder?"
Personally I see them as a nice lesson in hubris. Their alliance description still reads, "Nice region, we'll take it," even after they've lost all their regions except one last region with NPC stations to hide in.
But it takes alot of courage to hold on while your empire crumbles.
It's like the courage it takes to go ride bikes on very busy highways.
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Nifel
Caldari
PAX Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:33:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 30/01/2008 13:46:53
Hey if BoB becomes a roaming alliance, free from POS warfare, does this mean they'll do something different from camping the same gate waiting for the others to jump in? Important question.
Probably a nightmare version of ATUK moving north after [5] fell apart (at least for some months). There are a few other strategical waypoints they can choose instead as well.
"When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." |
Virgil Aquilis
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:36:00 -
[210]
Personally I find it funny how bob pretty much falls into lockstep when it comes to trolling CAOD as far as taking cues from goons goes, you guys crib pretty heavily from us IMHO
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:39:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Virgil Aquilis
Personally I find it funny how bob pretty much falls into lockstep when it comes to trolling CAOD as far as taking cues from goons goes, you guys crib pretty heavily from us IMHO
troll= a small person (eg somebody who achived nothing) smacking a person with history and a name (somebody who did something)
in other words only Goons can be trolls therefore only goons can start trolling.
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Endeva
Caldari
Most Wanted INC
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:39:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Nifel
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 30/01/2008 13:46:53
Hey if BoB becomes a roaming alliance, free from POS warfare, does this mean they'll do something different from camping the same gate waiting for the others to jump in? Important question.
Probably a nightmare version of ATUK moving north after [5] fell apart (at least for some months). There are a few other strategical waypoints they can choose instead as well.
atuk with titans lol
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:40:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Nifel
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 30/01/2008 13:46:53
Hey if BoB becomes a roaming alliance, free from POS warfare, does this mean they'll do something different from camping the same gate waiting for the others to jump in? Important question.
Probably a nightmare version of ATUK moving north after [5] fell apart (at least for some months). There are a few other strategical waypoints they can choose instead as well.
no no no no.. BOB has never lived in the north! and we hate roaming! dont spoil the little goonies forum propaganda..
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xMenta (DSMA)
xBOS (CA)
ATUK (.5.)
DICE (BOB)
xElcyion Lacar
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Semkhet
Spartan Industries
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:40:00 -
[214]
Aside from this hatred which IMHO is blinding both sides at various & fluctuating levels, those who think that control of space = absolute power are deep mistaken, for the simple reason that in EvE, 0.0 space is not mapped to demographics but to a finite amount of resources.
These 0.0 resources are fungible. What you don't get from a spot can be obtained from other locations. Hence BoB is right to trade space against Coalition losses since soon or later, costs will have to be taken into consideration, specially taking into account that the majority of the POS'es BoB is loosing have recouped the related investment long ago in one way or another.
Then it would be naive to consider that arrogance is the exclusive privilege of BoB. The next major alliance will behave exactly like BoB did because this is the way power express itself when reaching the zenith.
Every single superpower which emerged through human history fell into the trap of arrogance & egocentrism, and EvE will not be the exception.
Now please go back to your flames, I've got enough popcorn
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:43:00 -
[215]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
You know how they say on these forums: proof or stfu.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:44:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Nifel
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 30/01/2008 13:46:53
Hey if BoB becomes a roaming alliance, free from POS warfare, does this mean they'll do something different from camping the same gate waiting for the others to jump in? Important question.
Probably a nightmare version of ATUK moving north after [5] fell apart (at least for some months). There are a few other strategical waypoints they can choose instead as well.
Yeah, like Jita. I'm just waiting for Molle to post "Hooch, we're stealing your targets"
-clp
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:47:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
You know how they say on these forums: proof or stfu.
forum slogans shouldnt replace thought
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xMenta (DSMA)
xBOS (CA)
ATUK (.5.)
DICE (BOB)
xElcyion Lacar
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Black Jumper
Altera Odyssea
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:47:00 -
[218]
ôOur goal in Eve is to control all of 0.0 space, and when thatÆs done weÆre going to take over the empire one by one and control the empire as well"
Sir Molle
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:48:00 -
[219]
Originally by: thoth foc
For what it's worth.. you do seem to be convincing yourselves it is a loss for us..
You took my words and turned them around on me, except without providing any of the reasoning leading up to the conclusion, you master debater you.
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
forum slogans shouldnt replace thought
Then, stop posting! (lol?)
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Khorian
Gallente
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:52:00 -
[221]
Originally by: Black Jumper
ôOur goal in Eve is to control all of 0.0 space, and when thatÆs done weÆre going to take over the empire one by one and control the empire as well"
Sir Molle
Where you scared when you read that?
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:56:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Khorian
Originally by: Black Jumper
ôOur goal in Eve is to control all of 0.0 space, and when thatÆs done weÆre going to take over the empire one by one and control the empire as well"
Sir Molle
Where you scared when you read that?
About as scared as when I read "There are no goons, goodbye"
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Hitme Harder
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:58:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Zorland
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Zorland
Remember guys, turncoats die turncoat death. Well done, hyenas. Lets see how long you hold it.
Or they join BoB and then want to join MC when things go sour...
MC? MC is dead, they just don't know it yet. As soon as the BOB blobage is over, Thug will take care of Judas Atoch and Co. Honestly, can't wait to see that one.
This thread is full of words, and I want bob to die, but I have to agree with this.
Its not about turning coat or anything, its because they wouldn't have done it unless they knew they had to. Also seleene is a genuinely arrogant poaster. Death to all arrogant posters!
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Miss Behavin
Strangers With Candy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 14:58:00 -
[224]
Quote:
We might lose our space but to think you will have removed us from the fight is the most ******** thing a goon member could ever think.
Hey look! it the beginning of the failure cascade!
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:01:00 -
[225]
Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 15:05:22
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: thoth foc
forum slogans shouldnt replace thought
Then, stop posting! (lol?)
Why dont you go think about you own question.. consider game mechanics and then you might work out how everyone, (assuming they apply some common sense) has a choice about PVP.. if you dont come up with the answer, stick to forum slogans
Originally by: Baxalusx
Originally by: thoth foc
For what it's worth.. you do seem to be convincing yourselves it is a loss for us..
You took my words and turned them around on me, except without providing any of the reasoning leading up to the conclusion, you master debater you.
It still showed the obvious flaw in your arguement.. /me shrugs
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Stahlregen
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:05:00 -
[226]
Edited by: Stahlregen on 30/01/2008 15:07:23
Edited by: Stahlregen on 30/01/2008 15:05:26
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: Khorian
Originally by: Black Jumper
ôOur goal in Eve is to control all of 0.0 space, and when thatÆs done weÆre going to take over the empire one by one and control the empire as well"
Sir Molle
Where you scared when you read that?
About as scared as when I read "There are no goons, goodbye"
So scared we went and proceeded to eject them from all their systems.
Continually repeating over and over that you are unique, invincible and will be remember forever simply doesn't work when all you need to do is look at the last 6 months and see how degraded in both skill and sanity you have become. BoB has been shamed and proven to be liars far too often for anyone to remember them as anything other than the worst alliance in the game.
People still haven't forgotten that it was bob and only bob that to be caught receiving help from t20, People are still laughing over your ridiculous there are no goons declarations and now they are laughing at you for claiming that you planned to lose horribly from the beginning. The only thing bob will be remember for is being the biggest laughingstock in the game; "The so called premiere pvp alliance that got beaten by a bunch of newb goons"
Tbh we should just let them live and keep them holed up delve occasionally poking them with sticks as they make for a wonderful source of mockery and entertainment.
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Belija'al
Amarr
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:13:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Stahlregen
Edited by: Stahlregen on 30/01/2008 15:09:00
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: Khorian
Originally by: Black Jumper
ôOur goal in Eve is to control all of 0.0 space, and when thatÆs done weÆre going to take over the empire one by one and control the empire as well"
Sir Molle
Where you scared when you read that?
About as scared as when I read "There are no goons, goodbye"
So scared we went and proceeded to eject them from all their systems.
Continually repeating over and over that you are unique, invincible and will be remember forever simply doesn't work when all you need to do is look at the last 6 months and see how degraded in both skill and sanity you have become. BoB has been shamed and proven to be liars far too often for anyone to remember them as anything other than the worst alliance in the game.
People still haven't forgotten that it was bob and only bob that to be caught receiving help from t20, People are still laughing over your ridiculous there are no goons declarations and now they are laughing at you for claiming that you planned to lose horribly from the beginning. The only thing bob will be remember for is being the biggest laughingstock in the game; "The so called premiere pvp alliance that got beaten by a bunch of newb goons"
Tbh we should just let them live and keep them holed up in delve, occasionally poking them with sticks, as they make for a wonderful target for mockery and source of entertainment.
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I Am Legend
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:16:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Stahlregen
So scared we went and proceeded to eject them from all their systems.
Continually repeating over and over that you are unique, invincible and will be remember forever simply doesn't work when all you need to do is look at the last 6 months and see how degraded in both skill and sanity you have become. BoB has been shamed and proven to be liars far too often for anyone to remember them as anything other than the worst alliance in the game.
People still haven't forgotten that it was bob and only bob that to be caught receiving help from t20, People are still laughing over your ridiculous there are no goons declarations and now they are laughing at you for claiming that you planned to lose horribly from the beginning. The only thing bob will be remember for is being the biggest laughingstock in the game; "The so called premiere pvp alliance that got beaten by a bunch of newb goons"
Tbh we should just let them live and keep them holed up in delve, occasionally poking them with sticks, as they make for a wonderful target for mockery and source of entertainment.
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Masters of Mayhem
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:16:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Lucias Trask
Originally by: Aeon Yakati
Edited by: Aeon Yakati on 29/01/2008 22:50:26
That's it!
Winner... go home everyone, nothing else to see here. DICE has won this thread.
Oh hey BoB... if I have an extra fleet fitted Mega can I come play in Delve with you? Im bored in fountain. BRUCE no fight unless theres 3x more of them than there are of us.
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Dark Angelete
Gallente
Dark Angel Battalion
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:20:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Belija'al
enough forum for this week.
It's too bad you figured this out before you insulted a whole country.Thanks Dice pilot.
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Beatrix Thief
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:24:00 -
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Murtala
Mushin Market
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:24:00 -
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I liked old skool BoB, not the current generation and there smack talking pets.
Calling your selves "Legend" is not cool at this stage even though I know it not an official Bob statement.
I stopped respecting BoB when I heard that a BoB target would warp off as soon as the BoB target was called primary on the enemy TS. TS spying is meta gaming at it worse and they use it the most hence there K/D ratio. Not cool guys.
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Terra Incognita
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:27:00 -
[233]
Originally by: Re Mi
Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: dr shark
O my my, never knew we made this much bitternes in ppl hearts.
Dungar, i cant remember of all faces, were you one of with tears in the eyes as well?
Can I somehow apologize for all the griefing me and my brothers did to you and your friends. Would that stop all of harsh punishment coming at us?
My friends are realy emotional guys and this sort of harasment we expiriance with all these regions we lost....might be to much for many to take
My video response to this poast.
The end of your video shows an individual getting curb stomped. This is a favorite method used by white supremacist/neo n4zis to lynch g4y people by crushing their skull. People have been killed in that manner in RL.
Its not funny.
A mark of true intelligence that idiots will find amusement in videotaping themselves committing felony assault, isn't it?
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:28:00 -
[234]
Edited by: Elmo McMo on 30/01/2008 15:28:09
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Stahlregen
So scared we went and proceeded to eject them from all their systems.
Continually repeating over and over that you are unique, invincible and will be remember forever simply doesn't work when all you need to do is look at the last 6 months and see how degraded in both skill and sanity you have become. BoB has been shamed and proven to be liars far too often for anyone to remember them as anything other than the worst alliance in the game.
People still haven't forgotten that it was bob and only bob that to be caught receiving help from t20, People are still laughing over your ridiculous there are no goons declarations and now they are laughing at you for claiming that you planned to lose horribly from the beginning. The only thing bob will be remember for is being the biggest laughingstock in the game; "The so called premiere pvp alliance that got beaten by a bunch of newb goons"
Tbh we should just let them live and keep them holed up in delve, occasionally poking them with sticks, as they make for a wonderful target for mockery and source of entertainment.
Goons rule. I can totally see BoB being beaten by Goons.
they already totally beaten by goons, left their complete space to goon's, they lost a big part of active members and their forumsquad get every day p0wned by goonforum squad. so.. bob is now a wounded paper tiger
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Virgil Aquilis
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:28:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Goons rule. I can totally see BoB being beaten by Goons.
Awwww, look who's back :)
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Moctobot
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:32:00 -
[236]
Edited by: Moctobot on 30/01/2008 15:32:52
Originally by: Elmo McMo
Edited by: Elmo McMo on 30/01/2008 15:28:09
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Goons rule. I can totally see BoB being beaten by Goons.
they already totally beaten by goons, left their complete space to goon's, they lost a big part of active members and their forumsquad get every day p0wned by goonforum squad. so.. bob is now a wounded paper tiger
actually goonfleet is horrible at this game i suppose one could say that we are the dice of the rmf
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:39:00 -
[237]
Please post constructively. ~Saint |
Don Guru
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:46:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Belija'al
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend.
Stain Alliance was the first, not you. They were the first behind the very idea of an alliance.
Curse Alliance came second, they were the PVP alliance. You're just wannabes like everyone else who "just want to pvp" or "we're in it for the fun" or prehaps "we planned it on a bbq 2 years ago".
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:49:00 -
[239]
Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 15:49:55
Originally by: Moctobot
actually goonfleet is horrible at this game i suppose one could say that we are the dice of the rmf
It's true.. DICE wants to make friends and hold hands just like goonies.. we'd love to so many allies that it's harder to find a red than an isk farmer.. but instead we make all the nice little reds blow up.. and then ppl dont like us.. it makes us sad panda's
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:50:00 -
[240]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: thoth foc
forum slogans shouldnt replace thought
Then, stop posting! (lol?)
Why dont you go think about you own question.. consider game mechanics and then you might work out how everyone, (assuming they apply some common sense) has a choice about PVP.. if you dont come up with the answer, stick to forum slogans
The question mark is rhetorical.
BoB is going down the drain and being smartasses on Eve-O isn't an alternative either (as seen here or in QY6 local some BoB members, read DICE members, are *****ing up even more so) as it won't win you anything, but more so make you lose even more.
Game mechanics make you win gate camps with drones and lose undefended POSes in the same time. There's nothing more to think about it, it works as intended, but not for BoB anymore.
You'd better sit and think what put BoB in this position, first. The hypotheses that BoB likes the current state is not to be applied. If you don't find the answer, I don't care.
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Don Guru
Corp 1 Allstars
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:57:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Belija'al
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend. even if you defeat delve, the legend you will never defeat. it took whole eve to do something against bob. everybody knows that no matter what goons claim.
OK. Tell yourself that, but concider:
firstly:
Stain Alliance was the first. They invented the concept of an alliance.
secondly:
Curse Alliance was -THE- PVP alliance.
Ask yourself this: Do you want all of eve to attack you? Are you all about pvp? Do you post ******** smacktalking on the forums?
If yes to all then: You're a CA wannabe.
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Minmatar
Perpetual Reality Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 15:59:00 -
[242]
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: thoth foc
The question mark is rhetorical.
BoB is going down the drain and being smartasses on Eve-O isn't an alternative either (as seen here or in QY6 local some BoB members, read DICE members, are *****ing up even more so) as it won't win you anything, but more so make you lose even more.
Game mechanics make you win gate camps with drones and lose undefended POSes in the same time. There's nothing more to think about it, it works as intended, but not for BoB anymore.
You'd better sit and think what put BoB in this position, first. The hypotheses that BoB likes the current state is not to be applied. If you don't find the answer, I don't care.
The answer is simple: they let their pets/allies fall. Had their allies still been coherent/alive, things would have been diffrent.. And still there are many ways for BoB to "win".. They first of all have to search and negotiate with other alliances to become allies (the time that alliances will present them selfs to you and ask you for an ally has past). And they have to work together with them, protecting each others space/assets/ships. Only then i see a future for BoB.
And yes that means letting go of that "i'm better then the rest" additude...
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GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:00:00 -
[243]
Edited by: Baxalusx on 30/01/2008 16:03:32
Originally by: thoth foc
It's true.. DICE wants to make friends and hold hands just like goonies.. we'd love to so many allies that it's harder to find a red than an isk farmer.. but instead we make all the nice little reds blow up.. and then ppl dont like us.. it makes us sad panda's
We used to have lots of targets, but you all died or docked up. 
edit: Except for the hour a day you come out to hide in a POS shield or droneblob.
edit the second: even hiding in POS shields hasn't worked out too well for you lately
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Beatrix Thief
Caldari
Dutch T2 Production
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:20:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Belija'al
BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there.
omg you've got it high in your head. BOB is no legend just another alliance.
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Moctobot
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:23:00 -
[245]
Edited by: Moctobot on 30/01/2008 16:23:25
Originally by: thoth foc
Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 15:49:55
Originally by: Moctobot
actually goonfleet is horrible at this game i suppose one could say that we are the dice of the rmf
It's true.. DICE wants to make friends and hold hands just like goonies.. we'd love to so many allies that it's harder to find a red than an isk farmer.. but instead we make all the nice little reds blow up.. and then ppl dont like us.. it makes us sad panda's
maybe if your diplomats were not pants on head 'tarded you would get to have friends ^_^
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:34:00 -
[246]
Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 16:35:59
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
The question mark is rhetorical.
BoB is going down the drain and being smartasses on Eve-O isn't an alternative either (as seen here or in QY6 local some BoB members, read DICE members, are *****ing up even more so) as it won't win you anything, but more so make you lose even more.
Game mechanics make you win gate camps with drones and lose undefended POSes in the same time. There's nothing more to think about it, it works as intended, but not for BoB anymore.
You'd better sit and think what put BoB in this position, first. The hypotheses that BoB likes the current state is not to be applied. If you don't find the answer, I don't care.
welp! i'm a bad bad person..
DICE (read... me) are having great fun at your expense.. like most of BOB, we have been around too long for the "OMG your dead" arguements.. and the worst type of propaganda is the type that fails as obviously as yours does..
"your being a smartass" -- "omg really!?!?!"
"your going down the drain!" -- "cooooooooooool!1!1"
"your *****ing up!!!!" -- "yeah.. i can see the stress!"
please try harder
Originally by: Moctobot
maybe if your diplomats were not pants on head 'tarded you would get to have friends ^_^
I wont have a bad word said about siddy.. his qualities for the role of diplomat are second to none!
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Map Screen
Flat Earth Society
Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:41:00 -
[247]
BoB is alot like WW2 Germany
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Fendragun
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:43:00 -
[248]
thoth foc
Arcane Technologies
The Five
Posting with ATUK tag is the secret to being old school cool.
Im old schoolbay :P
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Jadzia Blue
Department of Truth Enhancement
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:45:00 -
[249]
Here, have a look at my tits.
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Ricco Lonestar
Minmatar
xtort
Rare Faction
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:48:00 -
[250]
Originally by: Don ZOLA
Edited by: Don ZOLA on 30/01/2008 10:38:22
Originally by: Fendragun
Originally by: Darko1107
Lets have another stan post!
my new fav person in eve
FU
/emote is sad panda now
edit: stupid smilies :/
Stan was once a eil pirat.
I hope that will cheer you up somewhat.
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:00:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Westly Synpa
Originally by: fugazii
Originally by: Westly Synpa
Originally by: Belija'al
Payback?
ships dont matter in a territorial battle.
itd be interesting what your opinion would be if ratios were switched.
im sure it would be something along the lines of your gloating about who is the best at micro managing pos's in a pvp oriented game.
but dont get me wrong, what your saying is true. ships dont matter in a territorial war (anymore). its unfortunate wars arent won by warfare nowadays, wouldnt you agree?.. well i guess you wouldnt.
wars are won and lost by pos warfare and controlling the system so that people can/can't put down towers ship losses dont matter if you control the field and are taking down towers they are nesscery to do so.
yes i know, that is what you originally said, and what i agreed upon. but wouldnt you say that it is a bad thing that winning a war is no longer about who is the best at warfare?
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Virgil Aquilis
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:09:00 -
[252]
hey guys i'm bob, i'm going to do drive-by ganks with my hac fleet that results in only t1 frigate kills to our steady stream of losses
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Moctobot
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:14:00 -
[253]
man you guys are so lucky that i cant necro threads because man there are some gems down there
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Tiggus Maximus
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:15:00 -
[254]
Originally by: fugazii
yes i know, that is what you originally said, and what i agreed upon. but wouldnt you say that it is a bad thing that winning a war is no longer about who is the best at warfare?
What part of his statement was unclear? Whoever controls the field(system) deserves to win a territorial war. If you can control the field(this involves fighting), you can destroy POS, or deploy them, with impunity.
Suggesting that smaller units with better pvp skills and better k/d ratios should win at territorial warfare when they cannot hold the field makes no sense. It's not true in any game I can think of other than those awful instanced ones where the winner is determined by "points scored".
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JenDen
Caldari
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:44:00 -
[255]
One bad thing about BoB losing the war is that Stahlregen ain't making no more propaganda videos
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:56:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Tiggus Maximus
Originally by: fugazii
yes i know, that is what you originally said, and what i agreed upon. but wouldnt you say that it is a bad thing that winning a war is no longer about who is the best at warfare?
What part of his statement was unclear? Whoever controls the field(system) deserves to win a territorial war. If you can control the field(this involves fighting), you can destroy POS, or deploy them, with impunity.
Suggesting that smaller units with better pvp skills and better k/d ratios should win at territorial warfare when they cannot hold the field makes no sense. It's not true in any game I can think of other than those awful instanced ones where the winner is determined by "points scored".
i dont think you understand what im driving at. pvp is not pos warfare. pos warfare is fighting a npc, kinda like fighting vandaar or drek in alterac valley.
holding the field however doesnt necessarily involve fighting. if you bring 600 people into a system to shoot at a npc, and force the enemy to not engage due to player caps and severe unbalance in numbers, that does not constitute winning in pvp does it?
what im saying is that pvp, and i mean pvp as a player fighting another player should be the decider of wars.
however right now, you could lose a 1000man bs fleet to a ibis, but if your caps remain intact to kill the npc, then youve won. you talk down upon certain instanced pvp, but isnt territorial warfare exactly that, just without the instance? take wow for example, all the instanced pvp there has set objectives, you can go the entire match without killing a single person, but aslong as you kill the end npc, capture that flag, or keep node superiority you win, just like eve if you can kill that end npc(pos), cap that flag(pos) or keeping node superiority(keeping your pos's) you win regardless of how well you do in actual combat.
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Larry Wong
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:09:00 -
[257]
Originally by: Virgil Aquilis
hey guys i'm bob, i'm going to do drive-by ganks with my hac fleet that results in only t1 frigate kills to our steady stream of losses
intense pvp prowess
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:13:00 -
[258]
Originally by: Virgil Aquilis
Personally I find it funny how bob pretty much falls into lockstep when it comes to trolling CAOD as far as taking cues from goons goes, you guys crib pretty heavily from us IMHO
As us guys were here first, either:
CAOD was free from trolling before you guys arrived
or
You guys have fallen in to step with us.
Problem with the Goons is their arrogance. They need to feel important in an internet spaceships game, and give no credit for anything which happened before they came on the scene.
I'm serious.
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Idaeus
Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:13:00 -
[259]
Edited by: Idaeus on 30/01/2008 18:14:00
There is micro-PVP and macro-PVP involved. Individual combat, fleet fights, combat between ships, is micro-PVP. It has limited scope. You don't remove an alliances claim from systems by destroying their ships, that's macro-PVP.
Macro-PVP involves sovereignty. POS deployment, POS destruction, sov. gain/loss.
This isn't the old days, where a groups claim on a system could be measured in how many ships they blow up when someone tries to enter. There are mechanics in place that measure that sort of thing now.
My point? POS warfare is PVP, but on a larger (strategic, zomg) scale.
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GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:15:00 -
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The actual shooting of the POS is the least important part of the battle for a system. I think all major alliances can shoot a POS and kill it fairly quickly these days, the npc reference is not valid.
What is important is fighting for the right to shoot that POS, by killing the defending fleet, which is people, not npc's.
If you are complaining about one side having a numbers advantage and making it unfeasible for the other side to fight them, then all I have to say is, don't pick fights with bigger/badder/more numerous enemies than yourself. This is not a FPS, you need to consider politics, alliances, and bite off what you can chew, or accept the risk you will fail.
All alliance warfare is not on the scale of BoB vs coalition. Just because BoB ****ed off everyone does not mean alliance warfare is broken, it means they will have close to 0 chance when all those people coordinate, as it should be.
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Judas Yanakov
Caldari
Central Defiance
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:20:00 -
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Sun Tzu once wrote that the sign of the greatest General was that he did not fight at all, and still achieved his objective. The ability to twist the fight to your own terms is the very basic principle of warfare, even if it means sheer numbers. If you cannot adapt, you cannot win.
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Don Guru
Originally by: Belija'al
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend. even if you defeat delve, the legend you will never defeat. it took whole eve to do something against bob. everybody knows that no matter what goons claim.
OK. Tell yourself that, but concider:
firstly:
Stain Alliance was the first. They invented the concept of an alliance.
secondly:
Curse Alliance was -THE- PVP alliance.
Ask yourself this: Do you want all of eve to attack you? Are you all about pvp? Do you post ******** smacktalking on the forums?
If yes to all then: You're a CA wannabe.
While your point is good, your corporation fits 100mn MWDs on it's carriers and then rats with them. You don't really have the right to criticize anyone when you do that.
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Gallente
Repo Industries
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tiggus Maximus
The actual shooting of the POS is the least important part of the battle for a system. I think all major alliances can shoot a POS and kill it fairly quickly these days, the npc reference is not valid.
What is important is fighting for the right to shoot that POS, by killing the defending fleet, which is people, not npc's.
If you are complaining about one side having a numbers advantage and making it unfeasible for the other side to fight them, then all I have to say is, don't pick fights with bigger/badder/more numerous enemies than yourself. This is not a FPS, you need to consider politics, alliances, and bite off what you can chew, or accept the risk you will fail.
All alliance warfare is not on the scale of BoB vs coalition. Just because BoB ****ed off everyone does not mean alliance warfare is broken, it means they will have close to 0 chance when all those people coordinate, as it should be.
perhaps the best post ive seen from a goon member- ever.
Well said.
Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place?
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Achaiah
Black Bag Ops
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:35:00 -
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If k/d ratio should decide who would be the king in Eve, then we all would be vassals to Burn Eden.
BoB have great PvPers and tacticians, it win them many battles. It will however not win them the war. It should be quite obvious by now. As I view it BoB’s problem is that they have not been able to hold onto allies, and that they got too many enemies, much thanks to their arrogance and how they behave to people.
Their current situation is a strategic failure, not a tactical. They must have been fully aware that the biggest threat against them would be an overwhelming numbers of enemies that makes their tactical skills less important. And yet they **** off half of the galaxy, including their allies, and place themselves in pretty much the only situation that can lead to their death.
I think their k/d ratio show that they have great skill and tactics. They are among the best in Eve when it comes to fighting. It is however not enough to tackle an overwhelming amount of people and they have failed to realize or adapt to the situation. I have no idea why, perhaps they simply have been too arrogant, but to whine about that those with best k/d ratio should be the one who should hold space is simple minded at best and requires us to overlook more then a few strategical options available in Eve warfare.
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amagonsan
Minmatar
Perpetual Reality Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Virgil Aquilis
Personally I find it funny how bob pretty much falls into lockstep when it comes to trolling CAOD as far as taking cues from goons goes, you guys crib pretty heavily from us IMHO
As us guys were here first, either:
CAOD was free from trolling before you guys arrived
or
You guys have fallen in to step with us.
Problem with the Goons is their arrogance. They need to feel important in an internet spaceships game, and give no credit for anything which happened before they came on the scene.
I'm serious.
You're serious... remind me again.. what alliance was calling it self legendary? and you call Goons arrogant?
I'm sorry but i was a ex-gbc member, i experianced first hand on YW and R I S E how BoB helps their allies. You made sure that Tri didn't became an enemy, so you let YW, Fallen and M.pire die... just for example. I'm sorry but BoB is the arrogant alliance here, thinking that they can survive without help from their allies.
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: amagonsan
You're serious... remind me again.. what alliance was calling it self legendary? and you call Goons arrogant?
I'm sorry but i was a ex-gbc member, i experianced first hand on YW and R I S E how BoB helps their allies. You made sure that Tri didn't became an enemy, so you let YW, Fallen and M.pire die... just for example. I'm sorry but BoB is the arrogant alliance here, thinking that they can survive without help from their allies.
Our allies died.
Some help they were.
I'm serious.
Still, at least some gave it their best, fighting until the end .. rather than switching sides to avoid being ridiculed by the Goons.
Strange that some people would rather surrender their integrity than to stand up to those who would mock it.
I'm doubly serious.
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SaKoil
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:50:00 -
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Edited by: SaKoil on 30/01/2008 18:49:55
Originally by: Avon
Problem with the Goons is their arrogance. They need to feel important in an internet spaceships game, and give no credit for anything which happened before they came on the scene.
I'm serious.
No no no no you have it all wrong. Goons only need to feel one thing. Your bitter hot pro-gamer tears of shame and impotence at our feet after we kill your epic mount, steal all your rares as your castle collapses, place our placeholder hut on the slot and then run off with your morbidly obese vampire roleplaying internet he-wife.
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: SaKoil
No no no no you have it all wrong. Goons only need to feel one thing. Your bitter hot pro-gamer tears of shame and impotence at our feet after we kill your epic mount, steal all your rares as your castle collapses, place our placeholder hut on the slot and then run off with your morbidly obese vampire roleplaying internet he-wife.
To be fair, that would indeed be a concerning turn of events.
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Zeitgueist
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:54:00 -
[269]
Originally by: Avon
Our allies died.
Some help they were.
I'm serious.
Still, at least some gave it their best, fighting until the end .. rather than switching sides to avoid being ridiculed by the Goons.
Strange that some people would rather surrender their integrity than to stand up to those who would mock it.
I'm doubly serious.
guys guys he's serious
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Orangir
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:59:00 -
[270]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: amagonsan
You're serious... remind me again.. what alliance was calling it self legendary? and you call Goons arrogant?
I'm sorry but i was a ex-gbc member, i experianced first hand on YW and R I S E how BoB helps their allies. You made sure that Tri didn't became an enemy, so you let YW, Fallen and M.pire die... just for example. I'm sorry but BoB is the arrogant alliance here, thinking that they can survive without help from their allies.
Our allies died.
Some help they were.
I'm serious.
Still, at least some gave it their best, fighting until the end .. rather than switching sides to avoid being ridiculed by the Goons.
Strange that some people would rather surrender their integrity than to stand up to those who would mock it.
I'm doubly serious.
I'm getting the impression that you may not be serious about this Avon, can you assuage those doubts?
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:17:00 -
[271]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: amagonsan
You're serious... remind me again.. what alliance was calling it self legendary? and you call Goons arrogant?
I'm sorry but i was a ex-gbc member, i experianced first hand on YW and R I S E how BoB helps their allies. You made sure that Tri didn't became an enemy, so you let YW, Fallen and M.pire die... just for example. I'm sorry but BoB is the arrogant alliance here, thinking that they can survive without help from their allies.
Our allies died.
Some help they were.
I'm serious.
Still, at least some gave it their best, fighting until the end .. rather than switching sides to avoid being ridiculed by the Goons.
Strange that some people would rather surrender their integrity than to stand up to those who would mock it.
I'm doubly serious.
Man I love it when BOB talk about integrity.
One of my favorite threads on your boards was the thread asking everyone to petition their capitals out of 49- after the crash. And if it failed, petition again 12 hours later when the new GM shift was on.
Or maybe it's you talking about how you like "good fights" and then put 40 carriers, 5 motherships and 3 titans in a system.
Hahah or maybe K/D ratios when some of your members have completely stopped uploading their losses.
My point is that everyone in EVE is full of crap, you guys just pretend you're not.
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tiggus Maximus
The actual shooting of the POS is the least important part of the battle for a system. I think all major alliances can shoot a POS and kill it fairly quickly these days, the npc reference is not valid.
What is important is fighting for the right to shoot that POS, by killing the defending fleet, which is people, not npc's.
If you are complaining about one side having a numbers advantage and making it unfeasible for the other side to fight them, then all I have to say is, don't pick fights with bigger/badder/more numerous enemies than yourself. This is not a FPS, you need to consider politics, alliances, and bite off what you can chew, or accept the risk you will fail.
All alliance warfare is not on the scale of BoB vs coalition. Just because BoB ****ed off everyone does not mean alliance warfare is broken, it means they will have close to 0 chance when all those people coordinate, as it should be.
Dont get me wrong im not complaining about numbers, was only using that as an example.
However dismissing numbers just because of poor politics doesnt change the fact that thier is such massive numbers. But that is another topic.
But to say shooting pos's is the least important part of winning a system isnt true. If that was true, small corporations would be the dominant force in eve, not large alliances.
To reinforce what im saying, and to lead me onto another point of yours that smaller alliance warfare isnt broken lets take a look at how smash/rk gained thier space.
For about 2 months tde the system being sieged by smash/rk saw fleet battles almost everyday, with a consistent result. Smash/rk not holding the field. However, one night after months of not holding the field, smash/rk decided to drop 35 large towers in the system. Overnight winning the war through pve, after months of losing at pvp. But all is right in the world of alliance warfare?
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Glenda Giggles
Red Ballz
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:23:00 -
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Achaiah of Black Bag Ops.
Read your post and although I think your correct when it comes to BoB ****ting all over their Allies so that they now face both old foes and friends as Red. Your not correct I think about BoB being the Elite fights of EvE.
Maybe at one time BoB was the Elite fighting force thats not something I can support or deny. But if you look at the work history of most of the current BoB pilots they were actually once in the very Alliances that were crushed already by RSF friendly forces. I dont think of their recruits from AXE, Rise, YouWhat and all the other evicted Alliances as the best PvP players in game.
The advantage BoB had and this is past tense was one of the single largest concentrations of high SP pilots and capitals in a single Alliance. But thats sort of changed.
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Farham
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:27:00 -
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Having spent weeks in T-PAR/TCAG living out of POSes during my time in ASCNs debacle up that way, I wish both systems would just burn to the ground and go away.
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Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:27:00 -
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Edited by: Splagada on 30/01/2008 19:28:11
Which system was it, during the ASCN/BoB war, a system held by CELES (i think?) where a bob spy offlined everything? then the blame was sent on virtuozzo from dbp
that's pretty crappy gameplay in general this kind of stuff... it can only fireback. theres little you can do against nolife nerds, but at least dont complain when the same thing happen to you
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Our allies died.
Some help they were.
Hahaha, talking about contempt for your allies, this takes the cake. Without them you would have been defending Delve 6 months ago. And now you mock them for dying in your defence?
BoB is legendary indeed. Legendary for being the most egotistical and shortsighted group of players in Eve. Well, maybe your former 'allies' beat you in the shortsightedness department, but you have certainly nailed first place in the egotistical department.
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Maladora
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:30:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Virgil Aquilis
Problem with the Goons is their arrogance. They need to feel important in an internet spaceships game, and give no credit for anything which happened before they came on the scene.
I'm serious.
Im very tempted to fall for this troll
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amagonsan
Minmatar
Perpetual Reality Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:30:00 -
[278]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: amagonsan
You're serious... remind me again.. what alliance was calling it self legendary? and you call Goons arrogant?
I'm sorry but i was a ex-gbc member, i experianced first hand on YW and R I S E how BoB helps their allies. You made sure that Tri didn't became an enemy, so you let YW, Fallen and M.pire die... just for example. I'm sorry but BoB is the arrogant alliance here, thinking that they can survive without help from their allies.
Our allies died.
Some help they were.
I'm serious.
Still, at least some gave it their best, fighting until the end .. rather than switching sides to avoid being ridiculed by the Goons.
Strange that some people would rather surrender their integrity than to stand up to those who would mock it.
I'm doubly serious.
Last i checked YW was still alive and removed from the GBC standing list, but i understand that BoB considers them death.
Most split up because they where facing a superior enemy with superior numbers (Tri's a strong enemy to fight). They surrendered because the war cost alot already. Not all have the luxery to have a rich Ratting/mission ground to chose from like BoB. The corp i was with for example had only a few hundered isk left in the corp-wallet when we where forced to evac. R I S E tried to make a new start but even in Fountain BoB was unwilling to defend their allies and help them beat back Bruce out of fear of a war with them (that they later got anyway).
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Leto Twin
Amarr
Caritas.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:35:00 -
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Edited by: Leto Twin on 30/01/2008 19:36:10
I heard from a friend that ASCN High Command planned all of this way back in '05.
Way to plan, guys!
EDIT: It was at a pool party, which was followed by laser tag (pew pew).
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Moctobot
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:40:00 -
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should have listened to roy of ca
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Moctobot
should have listened to roy of ca
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CCP Saint
C C P
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Posted - 2008.01.30 20:07:00 -
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*Locked* Degenerated into trolling.
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