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Jim Lovell
Gallente Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:49:00 -
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Quote: Haha, reading this make me think of THIS.
LOL!
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Kera Delacour
Evenstar Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: Kera Delacour on 30/01/2008 11:55:40 I believe this can all be summed up by one simple phrase:
"I blame Mynas".
Some day I have to find out why Mynas is so loved/hated by everyone in this conflict :)
On a more serious note: Why is BoB complaining about blobs? It's not like they never used blobs themselves in this war. The bottom line is that goons (lord only knows how) managed to make friends while BoB apparently managed to alienate the entire EVE community.
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Pastora
Russian SOBR Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Zorland How much brain does it take when its EVE versus 1 alliance?
How much brain does it take to understand that they are themselves responsible for getting themselves into a situation like that? And anyway, that was their plan... _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants. |

Baxalusx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: Fendragun strategy ? lets put as many people as possible into one region.
well yep i guess it is a stratergy.
Ive been playing since the start and i dont believe that old characters should be unbeatable, infact i hope they arent.
Ive given up a lot the space you and RA hold, they used another great strategy to win (drop as many small pos as possible through the night).
That's what you don't get: You are losing this war because the coalition member alliances are miles and leagues ahead of you in terms of recruitment, organization and diplomacy, as well as a score of other functions of an alliance that I like to call support roles. That's what "blobbing" is really all about: recruitment, organization, and diplomacy. They're a part of war, as much as participation, money, individual combat skill and logistics. Deal with it.
Originally by: Fendragun I just wish the game would allow us to show you what we are capable of. hey ho have fun in delve taking stations e.t.c
The game is no longer just about fleet fights, typing o7 and smacking the hostiles in local. Morale, logistics, economics, diplomacy, intel, intra-alliance politicking, long term strategic thinking and a myriad of other things now factor in when a war is fought. BoB did not adapt to the game changing, and now BoB are going to die, because BoB is not good enough to survive in today's EVE.
That's all there is to that, and knowing that BoB isn't good enough to make the cut in today's EVE gives me a warm fuzzy feeling of schadenfreude.  ---------
~THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS ICORION~ |

Phyrron
Gallente Burnout Syndrome SECUWAY.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:12:00 -
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Edited by: Phyrron on 30/01/2008 12:15:04 Edited by: Phyrron on 30/01/2008 12:14:39 Edited by: Phyrron on 30/01/2008 12:14:17
They come with 10:1 and they going with 1:4 ... pure facts, nothing more!
go home
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Le Cardinal
ECP Rogues The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:19:00 -
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Seems to me that most parts have fun in this conflict regardless of what side they are on. Lots of kills and lots of fun, despite the drawbacks with large fleets on each side. Lag and stuff like that.
Only thing that keep me wondering is the amount of smack in each post as soon as someone post anything about either the coalition or gbc. Bob brought this on themselves when they acted like they did back vs ascn etc. But now the coalition vs bob act exactly like bob did when they were on the winning side. Your lowering yourselves to the lvl of arrogance and sickening attitude that bob showed when they rolled over ascn. I do ,however, hope and assume that the majority of the coalition vs bob do not act ingame the way some ppl do on caod.
Anyways, gj to the coalition for pushing bob back into delve. Hope you continue to have some good fights.
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Asterixm
Minmatar Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:30:00 -
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Edited by: Asterixm on 30/01/2008 12:32:45 Edited by: Asterixm on 30/01/2008 12:32:08 Edited by: Asterixm on 30/01/2008 12:31:17
Originally by: Zorland The winner in the game should be determined in fleet battles. How can someone win fleet battles and still lose space? Game is broken and POS mechanics are broken. You shouldn't be able to win space if you lose battles. Wining fleet fights and winning space should be related, and blobs shouldn't be the ultimate weapon that is better then any other tactic.
The attacker want to breack POS. The defender must defend POS.
The goal of the attacker is to detroy POS, that don't matter about loss. Win a fleet battle is a good thing anyway if you lose the POS that's mean you loss the battle.
War here is not about fleet battle, it's about POS only.
Bob lost all his allies and fail to find others, everydody's enjoy to kick their ass away in jita so we do it.
Anyway they don't want space or region or anything so we are in perfect world because everybody win.
We are just helping them to achieve their goal. (Hey Molle, just say "Thanks")
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Khorian Tactics and strategy are different things. One is long term, the other short term. BoB acutally doesn't need to think strategically as much as the coalition does, since they are only defending a single Region.
With their tactics, they react to the invasion wich is totally normal. Right now, the Coalition is the one who has the initiative, so BoB has to react to attacks and can not so much plan in advance whats gonna happen. Thats the job of the coalition now.
Tactics are important in Battles, Strategies are important in wars.
Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
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Royaldo
Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: dr shark O my my, never knew we made this much bitternes in ppl hearts.
Dungar, i cant remember of all faces, were you one of with tears in the eyes as well?
Can I somehow apologize for all the griefing me and my brothers did to you and your friends. Would that stop all of harsh punishment coming at us?
My friends are realy emotional guys and this sort of harasment we expiriance with all these regions we lost....might be to much for many to take
this is quite funny to read considering your personal attack on aneu. dice is one classy act.
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Fendragun
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Baxalusx
Originally by: Fendragun strategy ? lets put as many people as possible into one region.
well yep i guess it is a stratergy.
Ive been playing since the start and i dont believe that old characters should be unbeatable, infact i hope they arent.
Ive given up a lot the space you and RA hold, they used another great strategy to win (drop as many small pos as possible through the night).
That's what you don't get: You are losing this war because the coalition member alliances are miles and leagues ahead of you in terms of recruitment, organization and diplomacy, as well as a score of other functions of an alliance that I like to call support roles. That's what "blobbing" is really all about: recruitment, organization, and diplomacy. They're a part of war, as much as participation, money, individual combat skill and logistics. Deal with it.
Originally by: Fendragun I just wish the game would allow us to show you what we are capable of. hey ho have fun in delve taking stations e.t.c
The game is no longer just about fleet fights, typing o7 and smacking the hostiles in local. Morale, logistics, economics, diplomacy, intel, intra-alliance politicking, long term strategic thinking and a myriad of other things now factor in when a war is fought. BoB did not adapt to the game changing, and now BoB are going to die, because BoB is not good enough to survive in today's EVE.
That's all there is to that, and knowing that BoB isn't good enough to make the cut in today's EVE gives me a warm fuzzy feeling of schadenfreude. 
the funny thing is you think bob will go away.
also not being good enough for the game LOL.
You talk about you group being good enough and being able to form relationships and build coalitions. great good for you, been there seen it got every t shirt known to eve kind.
It took the biggest coalition in the game to get to this point and it still isnt over. we keep wipping the floor against your fleets and you keep knocking down pos. you think we arent good enough to do logistics or maintaining pos or developing relationships.
we have more titans than any other alliance in game. DICE a corp of however many has more titans than the whole of goons. you think we arent good at the game.
We may lose our space to this coalition and we might lose our pos, but our ability to play this game hasnt been lost. We held alot of space and made some good money. we built up industries that still survive without space. hell every one in dice pays 100mill a month tax and they do it while putting ships on the line and fighting you and without doing it in our space.
WE understand the game and we are good enough, hell if ali had 5 george formans on him he might have lost.
We might lose our space but to think you will have removed us from the fight is the most ******** thing a goon member could ever think. _______________________________________________ S T A N Former DICE ceo Former ATUK director Former MACE ceo
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Fendragun the funny thing is you think bob will go away.
also not being good enough for the game LOL.
You talk about you group being good enough and being able to form relationships and build coalitions. great good for you, been there seen it got every t shirt known to eve kind.
It took the biggest coalition in the game to get to this point and it still isnt over. we keep wipping the floor against your fleets and you keep knocking down pos. you think we arent good enough to do logistics or maintaining pos or developing relationships.
we have more titans than any other alliance in game. DICE a corp of however many has more titans than the whole of goons. you think we arent good at the game.
We may lose our space to this coalition and we might lose our pos, but our ability to play this game hasnt been lost. We held alot of space and made some good money. we built up industries that still survive without space. hell every one in dice pays 100mill a month tax and they do it while putting ships on the line and fighting you and without doing it in our space.
WE understand the game and we are good enough, hell if ali had 5 george formans on him he might have lost.
We might lose our space but to think you will have removed us from the fight is the most ******** thing a goon member could ever think.
As long as you guys are happy with the situation, then nothing else matters. Keep the faith BoB, I cherish the amusement it brings me.
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:05:00 -
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If you guys post this same message a few more times to yourselves over a few more message forums, you might actually start to believe yourselves...and that dark, nagging feeling in the back of your minds, the knowledge that soon you'll be a bunch of pirates with cap ships doomed to be just the scourge of Aridia...well you might drive that nagging thought out of your heads.
You might.
-- "PT, you are a complete and total jerk."
Yes. Yes I am.
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:07:00 -
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Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
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WowZilla
The Leeroy Jenkins Project
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:20:00 -
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Edited by: WowZilla on 30/01/2008 13:19:55
Originally by: Fendragun
WE understand the game and we are good enough, hell if ali had 5 george formans on him he might have lost.
Stan is my new favourite bobbit and that is a class quote.
you're still going to lose all your space tho ______________________ I am the worst poaster |

King Fury
Caldari Fury Corp.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
Post with your main, The 5 died along time ago.
Also I heard Bob are now only rated no 4 powerhouse, behing RA, Goons, AAA
Funny how things turn out, now BoBs old spin masters are back trying to salvage some pride
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Fendragun the funny thing is you think bob will go away.
also not being good enough for the game LOL.
You talk about you group being good enough and being able to form relationships and build coalitions. great good for you, been there seen it got every t shirt known to eve kind.
It took the biggest coalition in the game to get to this point and it still isnt over. we keep wipping the floor against your fleets and you keep knocking down pos. you think we arent good enough to do logistics or maintaining pos or developing relationships.
we have more titans than any other alliance in game. DICE a corp of however many has more titans than the whole of goons. you think we arent good at the game.
We may lose our space to this coalition and we might lose our pos, but our ability to play this game hasnt been lost. We held alot of space and made some good money. we built up industries that still survive without space. hell every one in dice pays 100mill a month tax and they do it while putting ships on the line and fighting you and without doing it in our space.
WE understand the game and we are good enough, hell if ali had 5 george formans on him he might have lost.
We might lose our space but to think you will have removed us from the fight is the most ******** thing a goon member could ever think.
Of course BoB will go away. Every entity going through an identity crisis, like being beaten at their own game, goes through the normal phases of loss collectively. Like the alliances that died before you, you hold out until the last hope dies out, constantly clinging to a desperate belief that you will go on after the last POS falls.
LV did this, V did this, and you too will fall victim to this, because you never understood the full scope of the game or how you can use it. Your narrowsighted view of war wherein only K/D "should" matter, your dominant attitude, your inability to make friends with other alliances, all these contributed to this.
You are not good enough. EVE is removing you from 0.0 because you are not up to the task of holding space, and your arrogant posturing finally warranted action from powers that all along had the power to kill you. You think you fight some epic fight and you'll go on to fight as guerillas and blah blah, but it's like watching a guy pushing against a tectonic plate. When the last POS falls, your membership will dwindle and your alliance will become insignificant, because that's what alliances who lose their space do, and you are not a special snowflake, no matter how many times you tell yourselves otherwise.
Now get back in that POS shield and talk about how much you love that K/D ratio so we can get this over with. You did want those regions, you just can't rationalize the loss of them with your desire for them because to do so would be to admit defeat to yourself and ruin the illusion of hope.
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~THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS ICORION~ |

Saffronique
Blue Sky Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:28:00 -
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TPAR-G station
Paging Mr Molle to this thread. In one of your recent morale blogs.. you found Dubya choking on a pretzel rather amusing.. and quite epic.. Can I get your thoughts on the TPAR seige.. and If you are infact choking on your own words right now?
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:29:00 -
[168]
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
Post with your main, The 5 died along time ago.
Also I heard Bob are now only rated no 4 powerhouse, behing RA, Goons, AAA
Funny how things turn out, now BoBs old spin masters are back trying to salvage some pride
wow... you heard?!?!? OMG?!?!? REALLY?!?!
I'll believe when i see it ingame..  _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
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KeyuserII
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:30:00 -
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When this war started bob had just as many allies.Not anyone's faulght but their own.
BoB is not fighting alone in this.Even after all they lost they are still supported at least by other 3-4 alliances, many alt corps(see bob whine posts).
Talking about "blobs" from bob is really neat and gives me a good feeling.Anyone rememeber Ec-,stain,north,ascn etc.Yes so stop being hypocritical BoB, we all rememeber your words.
BoB rest easy thinking to yourself "Hai we will always control these people game.They have no choice, but to play under our rules now.They play our game." right..... riiiggghhht.
Just enjoy all the fights you wanted and stop whining.With all the lag; all the crap we are enjoying everything.Even with your *** camping of gates with 20+ carreirs fighters out and podding pod's for lag(yes we know you only want epic fleet fights..right..riiiigggghhhtt).
Also don't say a thing about alts posting when it's very clear 20% of BoB post with alt corps.
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: KeyuserII When this war started bob had just as many allies.Not anyone's faulght but their own.
We had allies? I thought the coalition always said we had only pets.
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:33:00 -
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Edited by: Shadowsword on 30/01/2008 13:33:36
Originally by: Zorland
Great strategy.  How much brain does it take when its EVE versus 1 alliance? ******* incompetent blobers.
Anger management issues?
If a game makes you froth at the mouth, maybe you should consider stepping away from it for a while... ------------------------------------------
What is Oomph? It the sound Amarr players makes when they get kicked in the ribs. |

Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: Nekumi on 30/01/2008 13:34:03
Originally by: TWD We had allies? I thought the coalition always said we had only pets.
Which is it?
Pets
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Belija'al
Amarr Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
Post with your main, The 5 died along time ago.
Also I heard Bob are now only rated no 4 powerhouse, behing RA, Goons, AAA
Funny how things turn out, now BoBs old spin masters are back trying to salvage some pride
when it comes to spaceholding - yes.
killboard statistics or warfare or war in summary (pvp to) bob is still number one and rounded ra and other alliances in a lot of ways.
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend. even if you defeat delve, the legend you will never defeat. it took whole eve to do something against bob. everybody knows that no matter what goons claim.
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KeyuserII
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:39:00 -
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King Fury
Caldari Fury Corp.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:40:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Belija'al
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
Post with your main, The 5 died along time ago.
Also I heard Bob are now only rated no 4 powerhouse, behing RA, Goons, AAA
Funny how things turn out, now BoBs old spin masters are back trying to salvage some pride
when it comes to spaceholding - yes.
killboard statistics or warfare or war in summary (pvp to) bob is still number one and rounded ra and other alliances in a lot of ways.
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend. even if you defeat delve, the legend you will never defeat. it took whole eve to do something against bob. everybody knows that no matter what goons claim.
LOL, you are joking, right 
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Captain Thunk
Captain Morgan Society
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:40:00 -
[176]
Originally by: TWD
We had allies? I thought the coalition always said we had only pets.
Which is it?
Bob called them "Pets" they called themselves "Allies" and the coalition called them "Primary"
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Pastora
Russian SOBR Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:42:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Belija'al There is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there.
What?! Do you also believe in dragons and elves?
And are you sure you are talking about everybody or about your own friends only? Maybe this is the reason why we ù "coalition" ù don't understand this because we are not among those "everybodies"?
Yes, some people might respect BoB in a way, but it doesn't make them a legend, at least not in my eyes (even within character). _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants. |

Belija'al
Amarr Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:42:00 -
[178]
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: Belija'al
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 30/01/2008 13:07:21
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Well, that's new: "We don't need strategy because we have tactics" or "BoB don't need much of a strategy, because their enemies have".
Being reactive sucks. Being proactive is much better. Unfortunately for BoB's case, their isn't much of an alternative.
You're quite wrong.. The choice is still BoB's
Post with your main, The 5 died along time ago.
Also I heard Bob are now only rated no 4 powerhouse, behing RA, Goons, AAA
Funny how things turn out, now BoBs old spin masters are back trying to salvage some pride
when it comes to spaceholding - yes.
killboard statistics or warfare or war in summary (pvp to) bob is still number one and rounded ra and other alliances in a lot of ways.
there is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there. everybody is copiing bob or wants to be like them. this makes bob legend. even if you defeat delve, the legend you will never defeat. it took whole eve to do something against bob. everybody knows that no matter what goons claim.
LOL, you are joking, right 
LOL, you are who?
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OSughhi
Romanian Army of ManiaCS
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:42:00 -
[179]
As I can see from this forum, goons kick hard bob and they are supported by a lot of fans. In fact one lousy DD inside shield POS killed mostly bob BS in this war. Keep going your good work. I am proud. 
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Belija'al
Amarr Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2008.01.30 13:44:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Belija'al There is one thing the Coalition do not understand. BoB is legend, BoB is the role model of all alliances at the moment out there.
What?! Do you also believe in dragons and elves?
And are you sure you are talking about everybody or about your own friends only? Maybe this is the reason why we ù "coalition" ù don't understand this because we are not among those "everybodies"?
Yes, some people might respect BoB in a way, but it doesn't make them a legend, at least not in my eyes (even within character).
even if (and thats a bi IF) you defeat us people will still talk abouzt BoB for a long time. i think this is what is recognized under the term "legend". search wikkipedia if you want 
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