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Stephannus Calimben mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.02.08 06:59:00 - [61] we've caught people using this trick with a sensor-boosted-up-the-ass interceptor. interceptor doesnt engage, just locks (so that they can't cloak).
Frances Ducoir Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.02.08 10:41:00 - [62] Edited by: Frances Ducoir on 08/02/2008 10:43:58 pirates crying because they have to use their head once in a while... thats just hilarious... gb2wow? gatecamping is lame-ass-tactics anyway so adapt or stfu btw i remember reading a statement from ccp that said they want to move pvp away from gates and into the systems (belts)... this was when WTZ was introduced. the reason why this is not working is because ppl are still camping the outgoing sides of the gates. i hope there will be a nerf to this so pvp could take place where it should. snip Signiture remoted because it contained profanity - hutch
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.08 12:36:00 - [63] Edited by: Le Skunk on 08/02/2008 12:40:59 Edited by: Le Skunk on 08/02/2008 12:38:13 Originally by: Frances Ducoir Edited by: Frances Ducoir on 08/02/2008 10:43:58 pirates crying because they have to use their head once in a while... thats just hilarious... gb2wow? gatecamping is lame-ass-tactics anyway so adapt or stfu btw i remember reading a statement from ccp that said they want to move pvp away from gates and into the systems (belts)... this was when WTZ was introduced. the reason why this is not working is because ppl are still camping the outgoing sides of the gates. i hope there will be a nerf to this so pvp could take place where it should. Man your thick arnt you. As has been discussed many times: there is ZERO point gogin to a belt in low sec. Absolutley none. Crap rats, Crap ores. Warp to zero was introduced obstensibly by ccp to reduce server lag, not to get people off gates Gatecamping is the by far the most viable tactic available for pvp in low sec. Its pretty much the only place you can properly engage an enemy. Originally by: Stephannus Calimben we've caught people using this trick with a sensor-boosted-up-the-ass interceptor. interceptor doesnt engage, just locks (so that they can't cloak). Thanks for the positive input. The person you caught with this trick must have messed up (delayed between the mwd and cloak). You really dont have to dealy at all and can cloak instantly afterwards. I have tested this with me in the exploiting bs and someone in a 6k interceptor and the ship was unable to lock me. Originally by: Ranger802004 why don't you move to 0.0 and use an interdictor :) problem solved! LOL. Well we are talking specifically about exploiting in low sec, where ccp disalow the use of bubbles. As such 0.0 comments are irrelevant, unless ccp were to allow interdictor bubbles in low sec. Originally by: P'uck but yeah... "cloak-speedreduction-lag" to do it definetly reeks of exploit. and thanks for telling... finally. you ***es. exploiting that ** and keeping it all to yourself. you guys suck ass. It sure does. And its easily fixable in a number of ways SKUNK
Mochalatte Gallente	Posted - 2008.02.08 12:47:00 - [64] Originally by: Sorted Originally by: Rajere 1) It takes 10 seconds for the MWD to shut off for this trick to work This is incorrect. although the cycle time is correct the insta warp once alinged is still possible while the MWD is turning off. NO you ***** moron..MWD oof for warp speed to be there due to cloak affect on speed.GET A CLUE!!! Quote:** metal dude [052506] You people canÆt dictate to others not to have an opinion on public topics.
Astradamus	Posted - 2008.02.08 12:51:00 - [65] I tried that trick yesterday with my afrig and i have to say i didn't manage to instawarp anytime. Maybe it's easier with a BS and its slower acc/deacc time. Anyway, it needs for sure good time/practice as well as a little bit of luck. Compared to the WCS nerf brought by HICs, it's neglectable. Honestly, i've never heard of it nor seen it until yet. (thx btw) Astradamus P.S.: Defining lowsec gatecamping as the only viable way to pvp in lowsec is ... at least questionable.
Begottenotmade Minmatar DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.08 12:58:00 - [66] Originally by: Sorted Originally by: Technix Doing this.. you also have to wait till your MWD cycles. SO... that is 10 seconds or so that you have to decloak a friggin BS.. before he can uncloak to insta warp. Try not failing at EVE. wrong. try not commenting when you are clearly clueless. Try even having an idea of what you cry about, before you throw your fit.The MWD cycle has to end so your speed get back up to warp due to cloak effect on speed. Maybe you should post another whiney covert pirate post about how to bring more players into low sec to "help" EVE.Pirates whining because they fail at a game online is super funny and your pubbie tears taste SWEET. Try using what the game gives instead of crying because you couldn't tackle or approach a BS that is cloaked.I know you fail to gank much, and that ONE km is hurting your ego and stats.Though i would prefer to not cry to have the dev's change something that will end up screwing something else up due to bad patching..because some pubbie that can't figure out EVE crys.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.08 13:01:00 - [67] Originally by: Astradamus I tried that trick yesterday with my afrig and i have to say i didn't manage to instawarp anytime. Maybe it's easier with a BS and its slower acc/deacc time. Anyway, it needs for sure good time/practice as well as a little bit of luck. Compared to the WCS nerf brought by HICs, it's neglectable. Honestly, i've never heard of it nor seen it until yet. (thx btw) Astradamus P.S.: Defining lowsec gatecamping as the only viable way to pvp in lowsec is ... at least questionable. Go get a BS and try it, it took me three goes to get the hang of it. The options for pvp in lowsec. At a gate (traffic has to pass through, ccp designed bottleneck, no instant redock, occasional gang fight as people are forced to fight) At a station (insta redock in most stations) In a belt (killing the occasional noob in a mining cruiser) Probing out missions (not bad but time consuming, easily avoidable, and consist soley of 5 on 1 ganks) At a Pos (welcome to 0.0 cap ship type bore fests sensible people try are trying to avoid) As you can see, gatecamping is pretty much thte only viable way of pvp in lowsec. SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.08 13:04:00 - [68] Originally by: Begottenotmade ...pubbies ..pubbies Isnt that a goon thing? SKUNK
Begottenotmade Minmatar DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.08 13:24:00 - [69] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Begottenotmade ...pubbies ..pubbies Isnt that a goon thing? SKUNK Isn't he long winded whining a carebear thing?
Astradamus	Posted - 2008.02.08 13:39:00 - [70] Originally by: Le Skunk The options for pvp in lowsec. At a gate (traffic has to pass through, ccp designed bottleneck, no instant redock, occasional gang fight as people are forced to fight) For sure, it makes more fun ganking someone who "shoots back", even if he had no chance at all... Quote: At a station (insta redock in most stations) A tactic never used by priates, hm? Quote: In a belt (killing the occasional noob in a mining cruiser) C'mon, thats what ganking is all about, isn't it? If youd choose fights you could propably loose, your pirate career would be over soon. Quote: Probing out missions (not bad but time consuming, easily avoidable, and consist soley of 5 on 1 ganks) Yes, more work than sitting at a gate and waiting for the uncautious to jump in. Quote: As you can see, gatecamping is pretty much thte only viable way of pvp in lowsec. In terms of easy-going, yes. To hear pirates complaining about game-mechanics abuse makes me laugh anytime. All the lame tactics i've only seen from pirates so far. All the griefplay and scam... all the logoffski and docking games... Astradamus
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.08 14:35:00 - [71] Originally by: Begottenotmade Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Begottenotmade ...pubbies ..pubbies Isnt that a goon thing? SKUNK Isn't he long winded whining a carebear thing? 1) Learn english 2) Stop trolling 3) Stop using pubbie SKUNK
Terazuk Amarr Rogen's Heroes	Posted - 2008.02.08 14:54:00 - [72] So far all I've seen in this thread is pure silliness... Any reasonably on the ball gate camper is going to manage to bump a cloaked BS attempting this trick. the counter technique is really very, very simple. 1. Click target on overview before cloakage. 2. Click approach 3. Activate MWD (If you haven't already) 4. Deploy drones 5. Bump/De-Cloak 6. Profit??? Seriously, if you camp a gate, pay attention to your surroundings. Pro tip for ya: When the gate you are watching flashes and makes a funny sound it means someone has just come through... You can even check the local channel and you may even notice that there is one extra person in local ...Be ready to act! Using this technique will rarely bag a covert-ops, occasionally you may get a Force Recon but it will get a cloaky BS 9 times out of 10. If you are set on camping lo-sec gates be prepared for the possibilty that the target will do pretty much anything to escape your clutches. They may even be as low as to fit WCS, curse their blighted souls! If all else fails... You could always ask them politely to stay still and turn off their tank/cloak while you shoot them.
Tal Nok Amarr DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.02.08 15:06:00 - [73] Dont make me post in here...I don't like this thread, I like the other one better. And yes, stop using pubbie as it is not the hair you grown down there no matter how much you think you are correct. The term and it's origins are from Korean internet cafe's that sprung up in the late 90's early 2000's - also known as "lan pubs" hence the term, "pubbies". You could take it a step further back to the "speakeasies" that cropted up here in the US where pubbies were referred to as the people who hung out at the bar's or "pubs" all day long. I'm sure you can take it further back, but I dont want to give you a history lesson since you probably wont read this post anyway. Bruce has no room for speaking on how lame gate camping is as I pop them often and they are just disgrunteled and want to keep thier goodies from exploding (freighter escorted by Frigates anyone? that was a good laugh). Adapting to mwd + cloak means to actually read the other thread but since you won't I'll go ahead and post what this "adaption" means. 1) Requirement of 500 people to either lag out the incomming Bruce (or insert your favorite alliance here) sap so they can't mwd + cloak anymore. They will just decloak with an emergency warp, and get popped before they can align out. 2) Dictor bubbles allowed in low sec Most of you havn't actually read, or tried out, (or if you did try, failed at completed the mwd+cloak) or, been on the other end of trying to catch. Without #1 and #2, unless they are a moron behind the wheel, you will not be catching them in low sec (the exception to this rule is frigates, and smarbombs). Before the next person attempts to jump on the flaiming bandwagon get some facts behind your words, try to not make yourself look stupid, and definately don't give me any chance of ripping your post apart because I'm bored at work again. Originally by: CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY. Need sacrifice. Originally by: hellsknights It's always nice to kill something you can't afford
Captain Thunk Captain Morgan Society	Posted - 2008.02.08 15:12:00 - [74] Originally by: Mochalatte Originally by: Sorted Originally by: Rajere 1) It takes 10 seconds for the MWD to shut off for this trick to work This is incorrect. although the cycle time is correct the insta warp once alinged is still possible while the MWD is turning off. NO you ******* moron..MWD oof for warp speed to be there due to cloak affect on speed.GET A CLUE!!! You sound really angry. You must be a cool guy carrying around the burden of a great wealth of information about the game. However, MWD penalises speed by 90% (prototype cloak) and the top speed will be falling to the new top speed because of the initial thrust. If you've ever webbed anybody before warp scramming them, which it's sounding like you haven't, you'd know that warp engages when you reach the threshold percentage of your top speed and are aligned. So, if you're required speed to warp is 15m/s and you're doing 100m/s yet slowing and aligned you will insta warp. This is the whole point of the cloak/MWD trick and (ab)uses game mechanics in a way that clearly CCP never intended. Not sure why other people are talking about remote sensor boosted Inty's and all the rest to get him when all it will achieve is the discovery that the guy in question is wearing WCS as well.
Tal Nok Amarr DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.02.08 15:23:00 - [75] Originally by: Terazuk So far all I've seen in this thread is pure silliness... Any reasonably on the ball gate camper is going to manage to bump a cloaked BS attempting this trick. the counter technique is really very, very simple. 1. Click target on overview before cloakage. 2. Click approach 3. Activate MWD (If you haven't already) 4. Deploy drones 5. Bump/De-Cloak 6. Profit??? Seriously, if you camp a gate, pay attention to your surroundings. Pro tip for ya: When the gate you are watching flashes and makes a funny sound it means someone has just come through... You can even check the local channel and you may even notice that there is one extra person in local ...Be ready to act! Using this technique will rarely bag a covert-ops, occasionally you may get a Force Recon but it will get a cloaky BS 9 times out of 10. 6k scan resolution with a 9km/s ceptor misses this by a SERIOUS player (sorry, joke from other thread). Read my above post and rethink what has been typed here. I can catch a frigate before it can warp away. I've seen some excellent piloting by someone bumping a ship so that I could kill it without using a point of scram. However, I am not able to catch a mwd+cloak BS, even after burning (using a mwd, please don't get the term I'm using here confused with afterburning) right into him. Regular cloaking BS's, sure no problem, they get popped left and right. Your pro tip is about as dull as being forced to listen to two deaf people argue about politics. Please don't act pro or as a SERIOUS player (hah, I'll never let that one go) because I'll point and laugh, and that hurts peoples feelings. Who are you anyway? And for my grand finale on this particular post, you are correct about one thing in your post. Only thing I see here is sillyness. People posting not having a clue about the game mechanics, not trying it for themselves, or if they have, failing, or posting about a tactic that has worked once or, new fudge compactors (fleet commanders) use. Captain Thunk on the otherhand has a damned good idea on the game mechanics. I like him. Can I have a hug? Originally by: CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY. Need sacrifice. Originally by: hellsknights It's always nice to kill something you can't afford
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.08 15:49:00 - [76] Edited by: Le Skunk on 08/02/2008 15:55:34 Edited by: Le Skunk on 08/02/2008 15:54:22 Originally by: Terazuk So far all I've seen in this thread is pure silliness... Any reasonably on the ball gate camper is going to manage to bump a cloaked BS attempting this trick. the counter technique is really very, very simple. 1. Click target on overview before cloakage. 2. Click approach 3. Activate MWD (If you haven't already) 4. Deploy drones 5. Bump/De-Cloak 6. Profit??? Seriously, if you camp a gate, pay attention to your surroundings. Pro tip for ya: When the gate you are watching flashes and makes a funny sound it means someone has just come through... You can even check the local channel and you may even notice that there is one extra person in local ...Be ready to act! Using this technique will rarely bag a covert-ops, occasionally you may get a Force Recon but it will get a cloaky BS 9 times out of 10. If you are set on camping lo-sec gates be prepared for the possibilty that the target will do pretty much anything to escape your clutches. They may even be as low as to fit WCS, curse their blighted souls! If all else fails... You could always ask them politely to stay still and turn off their tank/cloak while you shoot them. Well how patronising. Doubly funny this coming from someone who has scored a tiny handfull of kills.. two this month.. both afk... one in highsec.. arnt you the master or low sec gate camping, Your method does not work well due to a couple of reasons, primarily the water like space physics of eve, which dip your nose as you decelerate.. the instant deceleration when the target cloaks, and the server lag when he uncloaks. You also realise you can double click to aproach yes? And the mwd can be left running as he jumps in. Also you can have your drones out already, though they will have a hard time keeping up with your inty. So where do you camp.. ill bring my exploiting mwdcloak alt down and run your camp. Ofc with your uber skills, I wont be able to do it several times in a row... will I? SKUNK
Xlover	Posted - 2008.02.08 15:55:00 - [77] Originally by: Captain Thunk Originally by: Mochalatte Originally by: Sorted Originally by: Rajere 1) It takes 10 seconds for the MWD to shut off for this trick to work This is incorrect. although the cycle time is correct the insta warp once alinged is still possible while the MWD is turning off. NO you ******* moron..MWD oof for warp speed to be there due to cloak affect on speed.GET A CLUE!!! You sound really angry. You must be a cool guy carrying around the burden of a great wealth of information about the game. However, MWD penalises speed by 90% (prototype cloak) and the top speed will be falling to the new top speed because of the initial thrust. If you've ever webbed anybody before warp scramming them, which it's sounding like you haven't, you'd know that warp engages when you reach the threshold percentage of your top speed and are aligned. So, if you're required speed to warp is 15m/s and you're doing 100m/s yet slowing and aligned you will insta warp. This is the whole point of the cloak/MWD trick and (ab)uses game mechanics in a way that clearly CCP never intended. Not sure why other people are talking about remote sensor boosted Inty's and all the rest to get him when all it will achieve is the discovery that the guy in question is wearing WCS as well. The MWD MUST deactivate to have your speed boost to the point where you can warp... OR YOU WON'T.You will have to reach that warping speed again.Hence people borking this method and dying. Done it many many times.SAME WAY.So go back to talking about BOB yet shooting the goons.
Terazuk Amarr Rogen's Heroes	Posted - 2008.02.08 15:59:00 - [78] Originally by: Tal Nok Your pro tip is about as dull as being forced to listen to two deaf people argue about politics. Please don't act pro or as a SERIOUS player (hah, I'll never let that one go) because I'll point and laugh, and that hurts peoples feelings. Who are you anyway? Originally by: Terazuk [sarcasm]Seriously, if you camp a gate, pay attention to your surroundings. Pro tip for ya: When the gate you are watching flashes and makes a funny sound it means someone has just come through... You can even check the local channel and you may even notice that there is one extra person in local ...Be ready to act![/sarcasm] Fixed for ya
Begottenotmade Minmatar DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.08 15:59:00 - [79] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Begottenotmade Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Begottenotmade ...pubbies ..pubbies Isnt that a goon thing? SKUNK Isn't he long winded whining a carebear thing? 1) Learn english 2) Stop trolling 3) Stop using pubbie SKUNK 1) Learn english? (isnt) Clean up your own back yard cool guy. 2) Trolling? I'm posting in thread I want to, because of pirates whining that they can't half afk camp gates n gank noobie missioners.(you fail even having to whine about this) 3) Stop crying about carebears out smarting you.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.08 16:10:00 - [80] Originally by: Terazuk Edited by: Terazuk on 08/02/2008 16:06:29 Originally by: Tal Nok Your pro tip is about as dull as being forced to listen to two deaf people argue about politics. Please don't act pro or as a SERIOUS player (hah, I'll never let that one go) because I'll point and laugh, and that hurts peoples feelings. Who are you anyway? Originally by: Terazuk [sarcasm] Pro tip for ya: When the gate you are watching flashes and makes a funny sound it means someone has just come through... You can even check the local channel and you may even notice that there is one extra person in local ...Be ready to act! [/sarcasm] Fixed for ya [Edit]: Just because you lack the skill to do it doesn't mean others can't. Youve killed two people this month.. both afk.. 1 in empire. Seriously stop humiliating yourself - I doubt youve ever seen a low sec gate camp so stop posting about something you know nothign about. SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.08 16:11:00 - [81] Originally by: Begottenotmade Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Begottenotmade Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Begottenotmade ...pubbies ..pubbies Isnt that a goon thing? SKUNK Isn't he long winded whining a carebear thing? 1) Learn english 2) Stop trolling 3) Stop using pubbie SKUNK 1) Learn english? (isnt) Clean up your own back yard cool guy. 2) Trolling? I'm posting in thread I want to, because of pirates whining that they can't half afk camp gates n gank noobie missioners.(you fail even having to whine about this) 3) Stop crying about carebears out smarting you. No post introduction to thread nothing know you about. Tech! SKUNK
Tal Nok Amarr DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.02.08 16:12:00 - [82] Originally by: Terazuk [Edit]: Just because you lack the skill to do it doesn't mean others can't. Give me a video of you catching the perfected MWD+cloak ship in low sec. Otherwise your posts lack content. Originally by: CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY. Need sacrifice. Originally by: hellsknights It's always nice to kill something you can't afford
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.08 16:18:00 - [83] Originally by: Tal Nok Originally by: Terazuk [Edit]: Just because you lack the skill to do it doesn't mean others can't. Give me a video of you catching the perfected MWD+cloak ship in low sec. Otherwise your posts lack content. He cant.. th troll kills two afk ships a month. Hence his damming silence when challenged. SKUNK
Begottenotmade Minmatar DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.08 16:32:00 - [84] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Begottenotmade Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Begottenotmade Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Begottenotmade ...pubbies ..pubbies Isnt that a goon thing? SKUNK Isn't he long winded whining a carebear thing? 1) Learn english 2) Stop trolling 3) Stop using pubbie SKUNK 1) Learn english? (isnt) Clean up your own back yard cool guy. 2) Trolling? I'm posting in thread I want to, because of pirates whining that they can't half afk camp gates n gank noobie missioners.(you fail even having to whine about this) 3) Stop crying about carebears out smarting you. No post introduction to thread nothing know you about. Tech! SKUNK Now in english? Wow why even bring something like grammar up when you fail so bad.
Ard UnjiiGo The Bastards	Posted - 2008.02.08 16:52:00 - [85] Originally by: Relah Something is wrong when we can't lock a battleship before it warps using this. It needs fixing. It would be a simple implementation, just give 2-5 seconds before cloak can be used after a mwd activation. Even doing our own tests, we got a recon's scan resolution up to 5000 and are still unable to catch a ship using this. I honestly believe it should be considered an exploit. Another pirate whine thread?! Next time, imo, try saying this: "Hello C&P. We've recently been trying to catch ship x who uses tactics a,b and c and we can't catch him the way we're going about it. Any ideas?" Please don't whine, shout exploit and imply the need for a nerf. It's simple: pirates don't whine. If the explosion of this continues they should rename C&P: Crime w/ Whine.
Kruel Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.02.08 16:58:00 - [86] Fact is, this is the best way at the moment to run lowsec gate camps. Screw WCS... why gimp your lows when you can fit a full rack of expanders and still get away every time? Even from HICs! On the upside, at least more people will be inclined to run missions in lowsec now. If we can't get em at the gate, we'll probe em out.
Agent Li Caldari Galactic Defence Consortium BLACKHAWK FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.02.08 16:58:00 - [87] Originally by: Terazuk So far all I've seen in this thread is pure silliness... Any reasonably on the ball gate camper is going to manage to bump a cloaked BS attempting this trick. the counter technique is really very, very simple. 1. Click target on overview before cloakage. 2. Click approach 3. Activate MWD (If you haven't already) 4. Deploy drones 5. Bump/De-Cloak 6. Profit??? Seriously, if you camp a gate, pay attention to your surroundings. Pro tip for ya: When the gate you are watching flashes and makes a funny sound it means someone has just come through... You can even check the local channel and you may even notice that there is one extra person in local ...Be ready to act! Using this technique will rarely bag a covert-ops, occasionally you may get a Force Recon but it will get a cloaky BS 9 times out of 10. If you are set on camping lo-sec gates be prepared for the possibilty that the target will do pretty much anything to escape your clutches. They may even be as low as to fit WCS, curse their blighted souls! If all else fails... You could always ask them politely to stay still and turn off their tank/cloak while you shoot them. I regularly fly a Crane fitted specifically to run gate camps in low sec. And 99% of the time, I get through. Not because I am uber, or that the ship is uber, or that the techniques to catch me are so hard... it's because most gate campers in low sec are not attentive enough, and not flying the right fit for their little gang of campers. I have been easily popped by comptetent low sec gate camps - but they are few and far between. Each time I've been popped, I convo in game that they were highly skilled - and I salute their competency. It's actually refreshing to see competency. ------------------ Let me show you around. That's my lab table, and this is my workstool. And over there is my intergalactic spaceship. And here's where I keep assorted lengths of wire.
Begottenotmade Minmatar DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.08 17:11:00 - [88] Originally by: Agent Li Originally by: Terazuk So far all I've seen in this thread is pure silliness... Any reasonably on the ball gate camper is going to manage to bump a cloaked BS attempting this trick. the counter technique is really very, very simple. 1. Click target on overview before cloakage. 2. Click approach 3. Activate MWD (If you haven't already) 4. Deploy drones 5. Bump/De-Cloak 6. Profit??? Seriously, if you camp a gate, pay attention to your surroundings. Pro tip for ya: When the gate you are watching flashes and makes a funny sound it means someone has just come through... You can even check the local channel and you may even notice that there is one extra person in local ...Be ready to act! Using this technique will rarely bag a covert-ops, occasionally you may get a Force Recon but it will get a cloaky BS 9 times out of 10. If you are set on camping lo-sec gates be prepared for the possibilty that the target will do pretty much anything to escape your clutches. They may even be as low as to fit WCS, curse their blighted souls! If all else fails... You could always ask them politely to stay still and turn off their tank/cloak while you shoot them. I regularly fly a Crane fitted specifically to run gate camps in low sec. And 99% of the time, I get through. Not because I am uber, or that the ship is uber, or that the techniques to catch me are so hard... it's because most gate campers in low sec are not attentive enough, and not flying the right fit for their little gang of campers. I have been easily popped by comptetent low sec gate camps - but they are few and far between. Each time I've been popped, I convo in game that they were highly skilled - and I salute their competency. It's actually refreshing to see competency. Cue le skunk's whining post that trys to refute your posts.See how fast he coems from the other whine thread.
milinkoee Bastage Incorporated THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.08 17:24:00 - [89] Originally by: Relah Something is wrong when we can't lock a battleship before it warps using this. It needs fixing. It would be a simple implementation, just give 2-5 seconds before cloak can be used after a mwd activation. Even doing our own tests, we got a recon's scan resolution up to 5000 and are still unable to catch a ship using this. I honestly believe it should be considered an exploit. Just use a ceptor to decloak them before their MWD cycle finishes. Just because he has learned to properly avoid unprepared gate camps doesn't mean you should come running to the forums for a nerf. Learn to run a gate camp better. Bastage, Inc. Worst Pirates Ever!!!
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.08 17:30:00 - [90] Originally by: Agent Li it's because most gate campers in low sec are not attentive enough, and not flying the right fit for their little gang of campers. I have been easily popped by comptetent low sec gate camps - but they are few and far between. Each time I've been popped, I convo in game that they were highly skilled - and I salute their competency. It's actually refreshing to see competency. Thats a great attidue to have and indeed youd be suprised how many people do play this game in a good natured, non ranting, non smacking, non trolling way. As for your points: Attentive enough in that the pirates are on the gate before the ship jumps. CHECK Flying the right fits. HIC, 2300 scan res LAchesis, Huggin, remote reps, battlship support. CHECK SKUNK

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