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Marcus Ronin	Posted - 2008.02.10 04:53:00 - [1] I was wodering why there were no selection for dark skinned characters in EVE?
Brea Lafail	Posted - 2008.02.10 04:55:00 - [2] Edited by: Brea Lafail on 10/02/2008 04:55:44 See minmatar brutor tribe. Also CCP hates darkies. P.S. didnt have asians for a good long while, either.
Auldare NXS Inc. Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2008.02.10 04:55:00 - [3] Umm Minmatar? They're kind like a whole race of their own. Without the courage the fellow, tumbles out here to me.
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Dark-Rising The Dawn of Darkness	Posted - 2008.02.10 04:56:00 - [4] --- In before the lock --- -------------------------------------- The Inquisition III - Relentless Retaliation
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.10 04:59:00 - [5] Originally by: Auldare Umm Minmatar? They're kind like a whole race of their own. Brutor are the darker characters Sebistors are pale Minmatar ≠ Darker Characters
Auldare NXS Inc. Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2008.02.10 05:03:00 - [6] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Brutor are the darker characters Sebistors are pale Minmatar ≠ Darker Characters I was only talking about checking Minmatar the race for darker skinned chars, never went into the specifics about tribes Without the courage the fellow, tumbles out here to me.
Brea Lafail	Posted - 2008.02.10 05:04:00 - [7] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Brutor are the darker characters Sebistors are pale Minmatar ≠ Darker Characters That's 'cause sebistors are the engineers and whatnot; they don't get much sunlight, ya know?
Corstaad	Posted - 2008.02.10 05:15:00 - [8] Look at my picture. I never tended it to be that black per say :) but yah.
Ursula LeGuinn Versus Gloria Omnis	Posted - 2008.02.10 05:26:00 - [9] Originally by: Corstaad Look at my picture. I never tended it to be that black per say :) but yah. It's "per se", not "per say". It's a Latin phrase. ________________
Corstaad	Posted - 2008.02.10 06:02:00 - [10] Yah I know but didn't want to open another window to have correct spelling.
faxtarious Kai-Zen inc.	Posted - 2008.02.10 06:28:00 - [11] please tell me op is joking o.O
Tellenta Gallente White-Noise	Posted - 2008.02.10 06:33:00 - [12] Originally by: faxtarious please tell me op is joking o.O prob not.. some people are hung up with real life things when playing a game of internets. TBH I wish they would leave that crap behind it is amazingly irrelevant. but the answer lies in brutor tribe I guess, maybe you clicked the french people and wondered why the french don't have dark skin, then made a thread about it?
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2008.02.10 06:47:00 - [13] In the creation window play a bit with the skin tones. Beside the Minmatar races you can get pretty dark Gallente at least and probably get the same with the other races. None of the EVE races have "pure" blood (if pure blood has any meaning), they are all a mix of the terrestrial races that have developed along slightly different lines and then intermixed again.
Corstaad	Posted - 2008.02.10 07:15:00 - [14] Its the future! I remeber talking to a ****** drunk one night about blonde haired people losing there gene in 40 years .
DarknessInc Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.02.10 07:46:00 - [15] Darkness looks pretty black...wait forgot the PC saying 'African origin' :D Originally by: Viator Pilot Now I will go back to agents, already without the desire of adventures on the ass :)
Kastar Paragon Horizons Intergalactic Brotherhood	Posted - 2008.02.10 11:17:00 - [16] Originally by: Marcus Ronin I was wodering why there were no selection for dark skinned characters in EVE? People like you are what is ruining the real life world for us all. You get out of bed and you say... hey, who are we going to bug about what today. Others like me just get up, play with the kids, go to work and try to enjoy passtimes. We don't have the time nor the will to engage in questions that raise all kinds of bad discussions. -----------------------------------------------
Thicky McThick	Posted - 2008.02.10 11:28:00 - [17] I wanted a green skinned character, or even a blue one. Red I could live with , maybe even yellow. Maybe yellow with pink spots. Purple with gold stripes. Orange, grey, scarlet. Transparent even, no colour at all, see all the bits inside. Post with your Alt and not your Main, 'cos I don't care about your Name.
Daelin Blackleaf	Posted - 2008.02.10 11:52:00 - [18] This may come as a shock to you, but you can change the skin tone on many bloodlines to achieve what your looking for. Facial structure, well I couldn't find the British look either but you will find an array of different ethnic facial structures available from French and Indian to neanderthal. Unless your trolling the old race issue in which case I have to say that those who draw attention to such differences are in fact the more racist of us. The rest of us, with the innocence of children, didn't realize there was a problem.
Ogul Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.10 13:20:00 - [19] Black characters, are you mad? Most of the background colours are already black or very dark, how are you supposed to read the damn text?? --- This is a war declaration, issued from your alt corp. It is used to gank people in high sec.
Yazmina	Posted - 2008.02.10 14:24:00 - [20] my character could be termed as "black". I really hope this isnt some cultural diversity drama, please let us all come together and sing kum biya and then there will be world peace. I feel sorry for your mental state op
Cypher V Minmatar Chaos Affliction	Posted - 2008.02.10 14:28:00 - [21] Lol at Thick Mcthick /signed for your post. LOL! ps. It's EVE, not planet earth. Live with it. ---------------------------------------------- Minmatar suck? Shoulda done my research -_-
Bish Ounen Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.02.10 14:35:00 - [22] Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf ...I have to say that those who draw attention to such differences are in fact the more racist of us. The rest of us, with the innocence of children, didn't realize there was a problem. Q-F-T !!!!!!
Van'Klomp Species 5618	Posted - 2008.02.10 14:40:00 - [23] Edited by: Van''Klomp on 10/02/2008 14:40:19 Troll, and a bad one at that. Pathetic really - if someone was really interested they would post with their main and continue the discussion. Even if the didn't post with their main they would not create a char just for the post (Marcus Ronin, SWA, 1 day at this point...) Obvioulsy if they are new to the game then no effort has been made to explore other bloodlines first... but gut feel is that they are not new... ------ This is a signature, no?
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.02.10 15:01:00 - [24] Originally by: Tellenta Originally by: faxtarious please tell me op is joking o.O prob not.. some people are hung up with real life things when playing a game of internets. TBH I wish they would leave that crap behind it is amazingly irrelevant. but the answer lies in brutor tribe I guess, maybe you clicked the french people and wondered why the french don't have dark skin, then made a thread about it? It reminds me of the people who complain that there should be a woman playing Dr Who. Yes, regeneration causes plenty of physical changes but there's nothing to say it can do that. Given that at least two gallifreyans have married offworlders... ---- Anything less is wasted effort
Brutoth Tain Independant Recon and Intelligence Agency	Posted - 2008.02.10 15:17:00 - [25] Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Unless your trolling the old race issue in which case I have to say that those who draw attention to such differences are in fact the more racist of us. The rest of us, with the innocence of children, didn't realize there was a problem. This.
joshmorris Silver Snake Enterprise SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.10 15:32:00 - [26] Originally by: Brutoth Tain Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Unless your trolling the old race issue in which case I have to say that those who draw attention to such differences are in fact the more racist of us. The rest of us, with the innocence of children, didn't realize there was a problem. This. Double this. Uber idea solves all !!
Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.02.10 15:48:00 - [27] Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Unless your trolling the old race issue in which case I have to say that those who draw attention to such differences are in fact the more racist of us. The rest of us, with the innocence of children, didn't realize there was a problem. And the people feeling uncomfortable about such of a discussion often have tendencies to racism. This question shouldn't be more controversial than the ones asking for beards. But alot of people do their best to be as anti-racist as possible, deem such discussion as unethical and they often overdo it and a form of indirect/passive racism comes into play. These are the people that canÆt see the humor in racial, cultural and religious-jokes because they are too afraid of being taken as racists. They are probably people who have to struggle not to look at a handicapped person, like any other human being, on the street too.
Zanon Xiu EnTech Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.02.10 16:04:00 - [28] play witht he light effects when you create your char, you can even get a pale blue char that way
CountOtto Black Circus Fantastique	Posted - 2008.02.10 16:15:00 - [29] For gods sake. It is a game. People who play the race card are the actual cause of racism in the first place.
Great Artista Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.02.10 16:20:00 - [30] Originally by: CountOtto Black For gods sake. It is a game. People who play the race card are the actual cause of racism in the first place. This, OP is racist because to him colour of the skin matters. We should report this thread. _______ ◕◡◕
Admiral Drakkisath m3 Corp Friend or Enemy	Posted - 2008.02.10 16:39:00 - [31] Political correctness sucks. its my sig tbh
Feilamya	Posted - 2008.02.10 16:44:00 - [32] http://www.thenoobcomic.com/daily/strip197.html
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.10 16:55:00 - [33] I wanted a black character that didn't look like king kong so I ended up gallente but I guess that makes me racist according to forum logic
Rollotamasi	Posted - 2008.02.10 17:06:00 - [34] Originally by: Kastar Originally by: Marcus Ronin I was wodering why there were no selection for dark skinned characters in EVE? People like you are what is ruining the real life world for us all. You get out of bed and you say... hey, who are we going to bug about what today. Others like me just get up, play with the kids, go to work and try to enjoy passtimes. We don't have the time nor the will to engage in questions that raise all kinds of bad discussions. In every MMO I have played I always try to make a character that is as close to my real life likeness as possible. Seeing as how I am black in real life my characters are black in game. The closest I ever got was Anarchy Online. Average height, black and a shaved head. Was almost a spitting image of myself. I don't see why wanting your toon online to look like you do is a problem? Secondly, I would have to disagree with your statement "People like you are what is ruining the real life world for us all. You get out of bed and you say... hey, who are we going to bug about what today". I would instead say that YOU are the one ruining the real life world by your "OMFG SOMEONE MENTIONED RACE!!! WERE ALL HUMAN WERE ALL THE SAME!!!" attitude. No, we are not all the same. We are different. And thats perfectly OK with me. Seems you are the one with the issue. It did not appear that the OP was attempting to play the "Race card" so I submit, why don't you calm the *#$& down?
Agent Li Caldari Galactic Defence Consortium BLACKHAWK FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.02.10 17:26:00 - [35] It's a game, not real life. It's a game, not real life. Say that over and over again, please? ------------------ Let me show you around. That's my lab table, and this is my workstool. And over there is my intergalactic spaceship. And here's where I keep assorted lengths of wire.
Rollotamasi	Posted - 2008.02.10 17:30:00 - [36] Originally by: Agent Li It's a game, not real life. It's a game, not real life. Say that over and over again, please? Aye, And I like my game toons to look like me.
Ogul Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.10 17:37:00 - [37] Originally by: Rollotamasi Originally by: Agent Li It's a game, not real life. It's a game, not real life. Say that over and over again, please? Aye, And I like my game toons to look like me. Pac Man must have been pure hell for you... --- This is a war declaration, issued from your alt corp. It is used to gank people in high sec.
Dionisius Gallente Critical Analysis R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.10 17:38:00 - [38] Whats the problem with the OP wanting some variety in characters, actually most minmatar characters look really cool and it wouldn't hurt to have a bit more afro type characters in the game. _____________________________________ Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
facepalm johnson a sackful of sacrificial sacrifices	Posted - 2008.02.10 18:22:00 - [39] Originally by: Ogul Pac Man must have been pure hell for you... I lol'd.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.02.10 18:38:00 - [40] You can go very dark with most races as can you go oriental, yet CCP saw fit to cater to that market by making something unmistakenly asian and might I add butt ugly to boot. Ok, Khanid look cool... These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
DarknessInc Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.02.10 18:47:00 - [41] Originally by: Rollotamasi Originally by: Kastar Originally by: Marcus Ronin I was wodering why there were no selection for dark skinned characters in EVE? People like you are what is ruining the real life world for us all. You get out of bed and you say... hey, who are we going to bug about what today. Others like me just get up, play with the kids, go to work and try to enjoy passtimes. We don't have the time nor the will to engage in questions that raise all kinds of bad discussions. In every MMO I have played I always try to make a character that is as close to my real life likeness as possible. Seeing as how I am black in real life my characters are black in game. The closest I ever got was Anarchy Online. Average height, black and a shaved head. Was almost a spitting image of myself. I don't see why wanting your toon online to look like you do is a problem? Secondly, I would have to disagree with your statement "People like you are what is ruining the real life world for us all. You get out of bed and you say... hey, who are we going to bug about what today". I would instead say that YOU are the one ruining the real life world by your "OMFG SOMEONE MENTIONED RACE!!! WERE ALL HUMAN WERE ALL THE SAME!!!" attitude. No, we are not all the same. We are different. And thats perfectly OK with me. Seems you are the one with the issue. It did not appear that the OP was attempting to play the "Race card" so I submit, why don't you calm the #$& down? okay. Now Im going to sound like a bigot. If your not same, you shouldnt get the same rights and privileges, because well. Your not the same. Your DIFFERENT. And usual people who are EQUAL are the SAME. So basically, you just said that no one deserves equal rights at all. Ohh and then you can say "ohh people can be different yet equal" but you forget, that Equal is a synonym for Same. They have the same base meaning you muppet. Now stuff it with your 'everyone is different' statement unless you want a White bathroom, black bathroom, asian bathroom, hispanic bathroom, and such like that for water fountains, restaurants, schools, cafes, stores and whatever else. Because you know what? we are ALLL 99% the same. Guess what that 1% is? Skin color, physical features and what we label as our personalities that set us aside from your best friend beside you. Now shut up with your little muppet "ohh we are all different". -.- I hope Malcom X slaps you Originally by:* Viator Pilot Now I will go back to agents, already without the desire of adventures on the ass :)
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.02.10 18:57:00 - [42] Correction: We are 99.9% the same. 1% difference is a monkey. What makes everybody a individual and different from each other is in the personality, the memories and experiences. Those differences however have only very little to do with the 'race'. Now we shouldn't go any deeper into this 'race' discussion tbh, or the mods will throw Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plated Padlocks at this thread.... -------- Ideas for: Mining Clouds
Rabbitgod Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.02.10 19:25:00 - [43] Edited by: Rabbitgod on 10/02/2008 19:26:36 Race has a huge effect on your personal experiences because it can effect how you are perceived and treated by others. -Money goes missing at the job and your the first/only one asked about it. -People expect you to be bad at reading, writing, math, ect. -People expect you to be good at sports. -If you own a cell phone you must be a drug dealer. -If you have a nice ride you must be a drug dealer or, you stole it. -That you personally know every brother in the city. Just a few observations I've made since I moved down into the South East US. It's hard being a Canadian down here.
SiJira	Posted - 2008.02.10 19:29:00 - [44] Edited by: SiJira on 10/02/2008 19:30:35 frankly id like to complain that there arent enough true blonds to choose from in the game i mean what kind of discrimination is that? and what about really skinny people? most of the character choices look well fed how about if i want the character to be fat? all the characters look fairly fit what do i do if i am inuit? none of the asian characters resemble me if i want to be indian either how about south american? Trashed sig, Shark was here
Dionisius Gallente Critical Analysis R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.10 19:35:00 - [45] Originally by: SiJira Edited by: SiJira on 10/02/2008 19:30:35 frankly id like to complain that there arent enough true blonds to choose from in the game i mean what kind of discrimination is that? and what about really skinny people? most of the character choices look well fed how about if i want the character to be fat? all the characters look fairly fit what do i do if i am inuit? none of the asian characters resemble me if i want to be indian either how about south american? Well Jin-Mei look a bit fat, i meen my corpmates are always calling me fatty... and i only weight 79Kg in RL, no fair.... _____________________________________ Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
SiJira	Posted - 2008.02.10 19:41:00 - [46] Originally by: Dionisius Originally by: SiJira Edited by: SiJira on 10/02/2008 19:30:35 frankly id like to complain that there arent enough true blonds to choose from in the game i mean what kind of discrimination is that? and what about really skinny people? most of the character choices look well fed how about if i want the character to be fat? all the characters look fairly fit what do i do if i am inuit? none of the asian characters resemble me if i want to be indian either how about south american? Well Jin-Mei look a bit fat, i meen my corpmates are always calling me fatty... and i only weight 79Kg in RL, no fair.... what if someone has a double chin? the characters dont really represent them what about the immersion experience Trashed sig, Shark was here
SiJira	Posted - 2008.02.10 19:51:00 - [47] i demand the ability to make any character look any age and have different colored eyes Trashed sig, Shark was here
Dionisius Gallente Critical Analysis R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.10 20:39:00 - [48] Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Dionisius Originally by: SiJira Edited by: SiJira on 10/02/2008 19:30:35 frankly id like to complain that there arent enough true blonds to choose from in the game i mean what kind of discrimination is that? and what about really skinny people? most of the character choices look well fed how about if i want the character to be fat? all the characters look fairly fit what do i do if i am inuit? none of the asian characters resemble me if i want to be indian either how about south american? Well Jin-Mei look a bit fat, i meen my corpmates are always calling me fatty... and i only weight 79Kg in RL, no fair.... what if someone has a double chin? the characters dont really represent them what about the immersion experience Would be nice too, i'm all in favour of variety. _____________________________________ Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Buyerr	Posted - 2008.02.10 20:53:00 - [49] Originally by: Marcus Ronin I was wodering why there were no selection for dark skinned characters in EVE? well Duhh... this is a future game.. there are NO black people in the futere XD XD hehehehe.... did you see any black people in starwars (the old ones) maybe?! NO, they don't exist in the future, so there you got it, minmatar is the closest you get (which is a slave breed) hahaha... ohh at least i find it funny :P I declare war on stupidity
Sarkkon	Posted - 2008.02.10 21:19:00 - [50] What we really need are a race with Tenticles... lots of tenticles... and green glistening skin. With an unquenchable thrist for Minmitar flesh.
Joseph Christ	Posted - 2008.02.10 21:26:00 - [51] I'm black on the inside.
Buyerr	Posted - 2008.02.10 21:28:00 - [52] Originally by: Joseph Christ I'm black on the inside. no your red, and if you remove the blood totally your white.. only the skin pigment can be black ;) I declare war on stupidity
SiJira	Posted - 2008.02.10 21:30:00 - [53] how about tall and short people? i feel very discriminated against that all the characters seem to be about the same height Trashed sig, Shark was here
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.02.10 21:31:00 - [54] Originally by: Buyerr Originally by: Joseph Christ I'm black on the inside. no your red, and if you remove the blood totally your white.. only the skin pigment can be black ;) Actually, the skin pigment is the same colour in all of us. A totally fair camera will see the same ratio of red to green to blue in anyone. Your eyes are not remotely fair toward colour balance so to you people look pink or brown or whatever. ---- Anything less is wasted effort
Ulstan	Posted - 2008.02.10 21:39:00 - [55] Please tell me OP will not be breeding.
Sarkkon	Posted - 2008.02.10 21:55:00 - [56] Originally by: Ulstan Please tell me OP will not be breeding. Watch for the OP to enter low sec, then you can remove him from the gene pool yourself.
Brea Lafail	Posted - 2008.02.10 21:57:00 - [57] Edited by: Brea Lafail on 10/02/2008 21:57:31 Originally by: Rabbitgod Just a few observations I've made since I moved down into the South East US. It's hard being a Canadian down here. I had a hard enough time being an Albertan in Vancouver, I can only imagine what you must be going through. Originally by: DarknessInc Ohh and then you can say "ohh people can be different yet equal" but you forget, that Equal is a synonym for Same. They have the same base meaning you muppet. People of different race are not the same. Even if you peel the skin off, you can tell from bone structure. I saw a movie a while back on tv about smart people being modified to be as dumb as everyone else in an attempt to make everyone equal, but all it did was make everyone the same. Same and equal are not synonyms in this context. Two piles of money, 100 US dollars and 10742 yen, they're not the same, but they are equal. Get what I mean? tl;dr you're a fool. As for modifying character's skin tones, each bloodline is a unique bloodline (gasp), so they really should share the same base characteristics.
Dionisius Gallente Critical Analysis R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.10 22:08:00 - [58] Originally by: Buyerr Originally by: Marcus Ronin I was wodering why there were no selection for dark skinned characters in EVE? well Duhh... this is a future game.. there are NO black people in the futere XD XD hehehehe.... did you see any black people in starwars (the old ones) maybe?! NO, they don't exist in the future, so there you got it, minmatar is the closest you get (which is a slave breed) hahaha... ohh at least i find it funny :P Lando Calrissian, friend of Han Solo, and the guy that lost the ship Milenium Falcon in a card game to Solo, was a black dude. Sorry after all there is room for black people in the future, as there is in the present, and there was in the past. _____________________________________ Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.02.10 22:09:00 - [59] Originally by: SiJira how about tall and short people? i feel very discriminated against that all the characters seem to be about the same height How can you even draw this conclusion, when all you see is character's heads and shoulders? Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
SiJira	Posted - 2008.02.10 22:11:00 - [60] Originally by: Tamia Clant Originally by: SiJira how about tall and short people? i feel very discriminated against that all the characters seem to be about the same height How can you even draw this conclusion, when all you see is character's heads and shoulders? i compare them to the background and then i inspect their corpses Trashed sig, Shark was here
Buyerr	Posted - 2008.02.10 22:53:00 - [61] Edited by: Buyerr on 10/02/2008 23:00:34 Originally by: Dionisius Originally by: Buyerr Originally by: Marcus Ronin I was wodering why there were no selection for dark skinned characters in EVE? well Duhh... this is a future game.. there are NO black people in the futere XD XD hehehehe.... did you see any black people in starwars (the old ones) maybe?! NO, they don't exist in the future, so there you got it, minmatar is the closest you get (which is a slave breed) hahaha... ohh at least i find it funny :P Lando Calrissian, friend of Han Solo, and the guy that lost the ship Milenium Falcon in a card game to Solo, was a black dude. Sorry after all there is room for black people in the future, as there is in the present, and there was in the past. his not more black then the minmatar dudes, his a minmatar type :P ps: YES ofcause there is room for all the good people (have nothing to do with color, just behavior) I declare war on stupidity
Daelin Blackleaf	Posted - 2008.02.10 23:45:00 - [62] Originally by: Cpt Fina Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Unless your trolling the old race issue in which case I have to say that those who draw attention to such differences are in fact the more racist of us. The rest of us, with the innocence of children, didn't realize there was a problem. And the people feeling uncomfortable about such of a discussion often have tendencies to racism. This question shouldn't be more controversial than the ones asking for beards. But alot of people do their best to be as anti-racist as possible, deem such discussion as unethical and they often overdo it and a form of indirect/passive racism comes into play. These are the people that canÆt see the humor in racial, cultural and religious-jokes because they are too afraid of being taken as racists. They are probably people who have to struggle not to look at a handicapped person, like any other human being, on the street too. Astounding, you can tell that I feel uncomfortable remotely? You even feel qualified to speculate upon my tendencies. Since, as a remarkable personality analyst, you may find this of interest and since you feel the need to single me out I'll share some information with you. In real life I would likely be classed as exceptionally prejudiced. While I have friends of other ethnicities and loved one who are disabled I make racist and generally prejudiced jokes, I don't change my seat for old ladies, and I refuse to let people in wheelchairs cut in line. Why? Because I don't see people as black, elderly, or disabled. I see people as people. All people are different and those differences are rarely a point worthy of serious debate they do make for good humor. If they are not suitable for such someone had better start the fat, poor, and ginger rights movements. My point is not that this should not be discussed as an in-game option, but that the OP is most likely trolling in the hope of stirring up a little negative discourse because what he's asking for already exists, unlike beards which don't.
Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.02.11 00:10:00 - [63] Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Astounding, you can tell that I feel uncomfortable remotely? You even feel qualified to speculate upon my tendencies. Since, as a remarkable personality analyst, you may find this of interest and since you feel the need to single me out I'll share some information with you. Yes because I clearly wrote "You are feeling uncomfortable about such of a discussion and you have tendencies to racism." and not Originally by: Cpt Fina And the people feeling uncomfortable about such of a discussion often have tendencies to racism. ... well spotted. Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf In real life I would likely be classed as exceptionally prejudiced. While I have friends of other ethnicities and loved one who are disabled I make racist and generally prejudiced jokes, I don't change my seat for old ladies, and I refuse to let people in wheelchairs cut in line. Why? Because I don't see people as black, elderly, or disabled. I see people as people. All people are different and those differences are rarely a point worthy of serious debate they do make for good humor. If they are not suitable for such someone had better start the fat, poor, and ginger rights movements. Again, very well spotted. Since my post obviously was about you in person this section above is very relevant. Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf My point is not that this should not be discussed as an in-game option, but that the OP is most likely trolling in the hope of stirring up a little negative discourse because what he's asking for already exists, unlike beards which don't. Didn't say he didn't do that. But nevertheless, a request of black characters shouldn't be more controversial than a request about fat characters.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.11 00:17:00 - [64] All darker skin tones than the current ones were banned to prevent people from playing drow Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to: "Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
Lord Evangelian Gallente LEAP Corp	Posted - 2008.02.11 00:31:00 - [65] Im a black frenchman...gallente jin mei... --------------------
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves	Posted - 2008.02.11 01:06:00 - [66] o/ --------------------------------- Oh noes! Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.11 02:51:00 - [67] Originally by: Dionisius Originally by: Buyerr Originally by: Marcus Ronin I was wodering why there were no selection for dark skinned characters in EVE? well Duhh... this is a future game.. there are NO black people in the futere XD XD hehehehe.... did you see any black people in starwars (the old ones) maybe?! NO, they don't exist in the future, so there you got it, minmatar is the closest you get (which is a slave breed) hahaha... ohh at least i find it funny :P Lando Calrissian, friend of Han Solo, and the guy that lost the ship Milenium Falcon in a card game to Solo, was a black dude. Sorry after all there is room for black people in the future, as there is in the present, and there was in the past. Star wars took place A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY also I would like more skin tones as brutors look like apes there I said it.
Illyrinia Caldari Friendly Hostility	Posted - 2008.02.11 04:15:00 - [68] besides ethical, and reasons i shall not get into- why would it matter... if you are a 'dark' colored fella, is it that hard to play a 'light' fella while flying a internet spaceship, that only have little pictures of people? You are trying to post to a locked thread CONCORD has been notified
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.11 04:38:00 - [69] Originally by: Illyrinia besides ethical, and reasons i shall not get into- why would it matter... if you are a 'dark' colored fella, is it that hard to play a 'light' fella while flying a internet spaceship, that only have little pictures of people? Because its the little things that count besides adding more color tones couldn't be as hard as fixing the lag would be
Illyrinia Caldari Friendly Hostility	Posted - 2008.02.11 04:50:00 - [70] Edited by: Illyrinia on 11/02/2008 04:50:36 i would rather see new worthless ships added, than someones 'omg im white?!' expression... in cod4, i dont even notice when my guy is 'black' You are trying to post to a locked thread CONCORD has been notified
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.11 05:08:00 - [71] Originally by: Illyrinia Edited by: Illyrinia on 11/02/2008 04:50:36 i would rather see new worthless ships added, than someones 'omg im white?!' expression... in cod4, i dont even notice when my guy is 'black' its just adding some color (no pun intended) to the game is that really a bad thing?
Dr Paithos Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute	Posted - 2008.02.11 05:33:00 - [72]
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.11 05:50:00 - [73] Awesome Posting Checklist Name:Dr Paithos ☑ Image Macro Used ☑ Alt character post ☑ Clever Sig ☑ Post count +1 ☑ IBTL ☑ Adds nothing to the original topic 6/6 A+ (I just scored a 3/6 with this post I guess I should see myself after class)
Dr Paithos Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute	Posted - 2008.02.11 05:56:00 - [74] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Awesome Posting Checklist Name:Dr Paithos ☑ Image Macro Used ☑ Alt character post ☑ Clever Sig ☑ Post count +1 ☑ IBTL ☑ Adds nothing to the original topic 6/6 A+ (I just scored a 3/6 with this post I guess I should see myself after class) this is a terrible thread and the only reason its still open is because no moderators are awake i think i added quite a lot to the thread actually but owell if you want to have a serious debate about race the eve online forums are not the place to do it
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.11 05:58:00 - [75] Originally by: Dr Paithos Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Awesome Posting Checklist Name:Dr Paithos ☑ Image Macro Used ☑ Alt character post ☑ Clever Sig ☑ Post count +1 ☑ IBTL ☑ Adds nothing to the original topic 6/6 A+ (I just scored a 3/6 with this post I guess I should see myself after class) this is a terrible thread and the only reason its still open is because no moderators are awake i think i added quite a lot to the thread actually but owell if you want to have a serious debate about race the eve online forums are not the place to do it I am not debating race I am like the op asking for some more skin color
Dr Paithos Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute	Posted - 2008.02.11 06:04:00 - [76] Edited by: Dr Paithos on 11/02/2008 06:04:41 Originally by: Marcus TheMartin I am not debating race I am like the op asking for some more skin color well i think this argument is wrong for not taking into account centuries of institutional racism in our society as well as millenia of racism in pretty much every human society known. also it doesnt take into account the limitations of the face generator; i'm pretty sure this problem will be obsoleted by ambulation Originally by: CountOtto Black For gods sake. It is a game. People who play the race card are the actual cause of racism in the first place. i think this argument is wrong as its pretty much the same as saying "people who complain about ***are the actual cause of the *problem AMIRITE" Originally by:** Rollotamasi Aye, And I like my game toons to look like me. i think this argument is wrong as its just a game Originally by: Rabbitgod Edited by: Rabbitgod on 10/02/2008 19:49:24 Race has a huge effect on your personal experiences because it can effect how you are perceived and treated by others. -Money goes missing at the job and your the first/only one asked about it. -People expect you to be bad at reading, writing, math, ect. -People expect you to be good at sports. -If you own a cell phone you must be a drug dealer. -If you have a nice ride you must be a drug dealer or, you stole it. -That you personally know every brother in the city. Just a few observations I've made since I moved down into the South East US. It's hard being a Canadian down here. and i think this guy is wrong as he's canadian i think i have it all covered here goodnight
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.11 06:08:00 - [77] but what exactly is the problem with adding more skin tones?
Carcusian D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.11 06:09:00 - [78] This is one the most rediculous threads I've ever seen. If you can't find an avatar to suit your tastes in this online-roleplaying-internet-spaceship-game, you're not trying hard enough. My toon is a black priest from Africa. Even though I'm not black in RL. I specifically designed him as such. This discussion fails bc the OP is trying to force some RL racial garbage on a game whose premise is different fictional races surviving from a catastrophic worm-hole collapse in some distant future, "far, far away..." Not to mention clearly you can design differnt racial attributes if you design it so. Playing games means suspension of disbelief, not to mention suspension of your own ethical nature. You pay money to play a game whose plot is based on what the devs say it hinges on. If you don't like it you can always not play this game whose fiction doesn't suit your own, personal tastes in games, tbfh. You kow, YOUR toon shows up as a question mark. And now I'm po'd bc i don't think other punctuation marks are being treating equally. I do it protest. You see my point? or are you blinded by metaracial prejudice?
nihlanth	Posted - 2008.02.11 06:11:00 - [79] Originally by: Thicky McThick I wanted a green skinned character, or even a blue one. Red I could live with , maybe even yellow. Maybe yellow with pink spots. Purple with gold stripes. Orange, grey, scarlet. Transparent even, no colour at all, see all the bits inside. This.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.11 06:24:00 - [80] Originally by: Carcusian This is one the most rediculous threads I've ever seen. If you can't find an avatar to suit your tastes in this online-roleplaying-internet-spaceship-game, you're not trying hard enough. My toon is a black priest from Africa. Even though I'm not black in RL. I specifically designed him as such. This discussion fails bc the OP is trying to force some RL racial garbage on a game whose premise is different fictional races surviving from a catastrophic worm-hole collapse in some distant future, "far, far away..." Not to mention clearly you can design differnt racial attributes if you design it so. Playing games means suspension of disbelief, not to mention suspension of your own ethical nature. You pay money to play a game whose plot is based on what the devs say it hinges on. If you don't like it you can always not play this game whose fiction doesn't suit your own, personal tastes in games, tbfh. You kow, YOUR toon shows up as a question mark. And now I'm po'd bc i don't think other punctuation marks are being treating equally. I do it protest. You see my point? or are you blinded by metaracial prejudice? But is adding more skin tones that difficult?
Illyrinia Caldari Friendly Hostility	Posted - 2008.02.11 06:34:00 - [81] THREAD HIJACK IN PROGRESS- DO NOT ATTEMPT TO EDIT YOUR POST, WE ARE IN CONTROL OF THIS THREAD, EVERYTHING YOU SEE BEFORE YOU HAS NOW BECOME PROPERTY OF "THE OUTER POSTERS!" ALL YOUR POST BELONG TO US! You are trying to post to a locked thread CONCORD has been notified
Dimitrius Zabelle	Posted - 2008.02.11 06:38:00 - [82] The answer is ambulation. Since we're getting a completely new and changed character creation system anyway (and you will have to re-create your character's portrait in it) then there is no point in asking for anything to be added to the existing system right now anyway. And this thread is getting REALLY quite racist now..
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.11 06:49:00 - [83] Originally by: Dimitrius Zabelle The answer is ambulation. Since we're getting a completely new and changed character creation system anyway (and you will have to re-create your character's portrait in it) then there is no point in asking for anything to be added to the existing system right now anyway. And this thread is getting REALLY quite racist now.. There is always a point in asking if it isn't there and you want it
Polonium 210	Posted - 2008.02.11 06:59:00 - [84] It's because CCP hates afro people!
Illyrinia Caldari Friendly Hostility	Posted - 2008.02.11 06:59:00 - [85] i like penguins, thier black and white... why cant we all just get along?? You are trying to post to a locked thread CONCORD has been notified
Illyrinia Caldari Friendly Hostility	Posted - 2008.02.11 06:59:00 - [86] Originally by: Polonium 210 It's because CCP hates afro people! omg dude, i read that and glanced at your pic, and thought your hat was a cowboy hat! i thought 'yup hes texan!' LMAO i need sleeeeeeeeeeeeep You are trying to post to a locked thread CONCORD has been notified
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.11 07:04:00 - [87] Originally by: Illyrinia Originally by: Polonium 210 It's because CCP hates afro people! omg dude, i read that and glanced at your pic, and thought your hat was a cowboy hat! i thought 'yup hes texan!' LMAO i need sleeeeeeeeeeeeep I saw the cowboy hat . . .
Illyrinia Caldari Friendly Hostility	Posted - 2008.02.11 07:06:00 - [88] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Originally by: Illyrinia Originally by: Polonium 210 It's because CCP hates afro people! omg dude, i read that and glanced at your pic, and thought your hat was a cowboy hat! i thought 'yup hes texan!' LMAO i need sleeeeeeeeeeeeep I saw the cowboy hat . . . lmao, its awsome, i was picturing, some dude leaning against a rifter, up on blocks, saying 'der aint no place in dis eve fer people like dat' You are trying to post to a locked thread CONCORD has been notified
sxndy	Posted - 2008.02.11 09:38:00 - [89] Edited by: sxndy on 11/02/2008 09:42:36 AinÆt no coloured chars in EVE, only us whites. :p
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.02.11 10:18:00 - [90] Note that cycling through the lighting options will significantly change the skin colour of your character. This is like that scene in one of the Matrix films where everyone is dancing by underground firelight and you can't tell who is what race because they're all pretty much orange. Likewise, the harsh white lights of space would make Samuel L Jackson seem pale. ---- Anything less is wasted effort
P'uck	Posted - 2008.02.11 10:27:00 - [91] yeah ffs! where the **** are the black characters! OUTRAGE!
Little Zandra Minmatar MASS	Posted - 2008.02.11 10:27:00 - [92] this is me making a emo repply
N1fty Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.02.11 11:10:00 - [93] Originally by: P'uck yeah ffs! where the **** are the black characters! OUTRAGE! Zomgles! We found one! GET HIM! --
Zaphod Jones Minmatar Quam Singulari The Church.	Posted - 2008.02.11 11:48:00 - [94] am i dark enough ?
Daelin Blackleaf	Posted - 2008.02.11 12:09:00 - [95] Originally by: Cpt Fina Yes because I clearly wrote "You are feeling uncomfortable about such of a discussion and you have tendencies to racism." You quoted me and then said "and the people". If I put a picture of you up on a sign and wrote "and the people who criticize others by making statements obliquely should be hung, drawn, and quartered." I'm sure no one would think I actually meant you personally. Originally by: Cpt Fina Didn't say he didn't do that. But nevertheless, a request of black characters shouldn't be more controversial than a request about fat characters. Well spotted, since I clearly stated this was a controversial topic from my point of view. Are you done nitpicking through my posts now or do you want to continue? Tell you what, you can do it on your own, I won't even defend myself. Perhaps then you'll run out of steam and we can get back to whether or not the OP has a point.
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Fnck the blob.	Posted - 2008.02.11 12:16:00 - [96] non pc joke about badger full of stolen TVs
Ogul Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.11 12:59:00 - [97] Originally by: Polonium 210 This post has been cleared of inappropriate content. Regards, The EVE Online Moderation team ZOMG, CCP hates Cowboy hats. --- This is a war declaration, issued from your alt corp. It is used to gank people in high sec.
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2008.02.11 13:19:00 - [98] Despite the non colour specific characters, how long would Red Versus Blue have lasted if they'd gone for Black Versus White ? Not bloody long I assure you. -- Anything I said above is subject to the standard provision: Alts subvert it, and make it untrustworthy.
BIG Builder BIG Ka-Tet	Posted - 2008.02.11 13:37:00 - [99] is it because I is black?
Polonium 210	Posted - 2008.02.11 14:01:00 - [100] Originally by: Ogul Originally by: Polonium 210 This post has been cleared of inappropriate content. Regards, The EVE Online Moderation team ZOMG, CCP hates Cowboy hats. CCP hates Brokeback Mountain cowboys as well!
Biirk	Posted - 2008.02.11 14:51:00 - [101] Ok. I think there is too much 'Foo Forah'about 'coloored issues'. But I understand this one. In order to obtain my desired level of charisma. I was forced to look like this 'chinese person' you see to my left. While I am a some what 'fat'nugly' Definately White guy. If I could choose my Image would be a somewhat less fat (Im not really ugly ) White bearded guy. While I do have some options to change my R/L apperance. I feel I am wrongly limited in Eve. _______ All Our Base Are Belong To Them
Dick Rude Bluth Company	Posted - 2008.02.11 15:01:00 - [102] I understand the desire to have an avatar that resembles you in RL, and therefore see that for some people, that representation is lacking. But look at the bigotry and ignorance that's come out just from this post. Imagine what they'd do if you could have black avatars. How much GM resources would have to be used to monitor all the racist names and stereotypes players would come up with? Just by skimming this thread i saw one person refer to "oriental[s]" and generic "chinese" looking toons for the asian blood lines.
Emi D'Arsen Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2008.02.11 15:01:00 - [103] Maybe you just haven't found the buttons marked "skin color"
Reacz Caldari Empirius Enigmus Navy Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.11 15:08:00 - [104] They decided to leave the EVE universe because of racial bigotry. Truth. And they won't return until you apologise on behalf of us all.
Wu Jiun	Posted - 2008.02.11 15:19:00 - [105] Edited by: Wu Jiun on 11/02/2008 15:23:41 I don't like the way the OP raises his question. I mean its subtle but coming here asking "why are there no dark skinned characters" (which we all know isn't even exactly accurate) is another thing than just asking "can we have a bigger variety of darker skinned character". I'd prefer the latter to be honest and i must say i have the strong feeling that the OP is indeed a troll. However his attempt failed miserably which is a good thing. So lets discuss the second question instead: "Can we please have more dark skinned bloodlines?". I for one would specifically love to have a character that looks exactly like halle berry. Nude. And yes i am dead serious, so plz make it happen. Edit: That would also the only thing that would make me look forward to ambulation and related crap. Just don't forget to install pleasure hubs so halle and i can have our private time once in a while.
Angela Toren Amarr Toren Shipyards	Posted - 2008.02.11 15:37:00 - [106] Originally by: Wu Jiun Can we please have more dark skinned bloodlines? TBH theres no reason why dark skinned chars have to be Minmatar... I would like to see a dark skinned amarr dude
Agent Li Caldari Galactic Defence Consortium BLACKHAWK FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.02.11 15:57:00 - [107] Originally by: Wendat Huron You can go very dark with most races as can you go oriental, yet CCP saw fit to cater to that market by making something unmistakenly asian and might I add butt ugly to boot. Ok, Khanid look cool... And the Amarr are so ugly, they have bags over their heads... ------------------ Let me show you around. That's my lab table, and this is my workstool. And over there is my intergalactic spaceship. And here's where I keep assorted lengths of wire.
Luna Nilaya Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.11 16:25:00 - [108] This post has been cleared of inappropriate content. Regards, The EVE Online Moderation team

CCP Navigator C C P	Posted - 2008.02.11 16:27:00 - [109] Thread is taking a distinctly racist tone. Please keep discussion polite and respectful. Navigator, Community Representative EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang

Luna Nilaya Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.11 16:30:00 - [110] Edited by: Luna Nilaya on 11/02/2008 16:30:52 Haha, unbelievable. I just described facial features of a typical black person and I was censored! If I were to describe facial features of an asian or caucasian, would my post be censored too? I think not. I blame h i t l e r. - Installing premium content... Deleting file: \boot.ini
Luna Nilaya Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.11 16:41:00 - [111] Amazing. I wonder when the day comes when we are not allowed to say anything but LOL in here. - Installing premium content... Deleting file: \boot.ini
nihlanth	Posted - 2008.02.11 16:45:00 - [112] People forget the definition of real racism. Racism = hatred towards a person because of race. There is no hatred being expressed in this thread as far as I can see. (I didnt get a chance to read the modded posts though so I'm not 100% sure). Making a racial joke is not neccessarily racism unless it is intended to hurt the feelings of the jokee based on race. The colonial times are over, the 20th century is over, WWII is over, and times have changed, thus I dont think people need to make such a big deal out of threads like these. Even if there is a racist 'tone' in someone's speech you can't suppress someones thoughts. If they hate, they will hate - no amount of talking/education/beatings is going to stop them from thinking like that anyways - so the lesson is: STOP MAKING A BIG DEAL OUT OF IT! When that happens, you will see that this thread wouldn't have gone on for nearly as long as it has now.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.11 18:37:00 - [113] Originally by: CCP Navigator Thread is taking a distinctly racist tone. Please keep discussion polite and respectful. have you ever been to the internet?
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.02.11 18:59:00 - [114] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Originally by: CCP Navigator Thread is taking a distinctly racist tone. Please keep discussion polite and respectful. have you ever been to the internet? Eve is not for ****. ---- Anything less is wasted effort
Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.02.11 19:57:00 - [115] Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Originally by: Cpt Fina Yes because I clearly wrote "You are feeling uncomfortable about such of a discussion and you have tendencies to racism." You quoted me and then said "and the people". If I put a picture of you up on a sign and wrote "and the people who criticize others by making statements obliquely should be hung, drawn, and quartered." I'm sure no one would think I actually meant you personally. Yes I did, since the post was relevant to your initial claim. You took it as a personal attack when it wasn't intended as such. I thought you'd realize that I was merely trying to continue the discussion about racism. You said that people who care about it are the more racist of us and I in turn, claimed that people who are offended often have tendencies to be racist. Was my post irrelevant? Why did you take it as a personal assault and not simply as a discussion? Do you think that you can judge who are more likely to be racist without getting a response? Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Originally by: Cpt Fina Didn't say he didn't do that. But nevertheless, a request of black characters shouldn't be more controversial than a request about fat characters. Well spotted, since I clearly stated this was a controversial topic from my point of view. What are you refering to? I put "nevertheless" to make a new and (to your post) unrelated statement. Did you fail to comprehend this or was it too hard finding anything else in my post to use against me?
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.11 20:05:00 - [116] Now i have heard it all...... Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Surreptitious Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.11 20:14:00 - [117] If you get black characters I better get red characters,,,,,or I'm suing. Or at the very least I am making a forum post insinuating that CCP is biased and the world in general is still conspiring against native Americans. Reverend Al, reverend Al. I play this videogame that doesnt have black people and I think we should sue them. Syrup
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.11 20:15:00 - [118] Undocks the Ku Klux Kronos Originally by: Avaricia look a goon lol
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2008.02.11 20:20:00 - [119] I don't see why this thread has run so long. Post 2 should have been "Yes there are black characters, pick a Brutor character from the Minmatar." and that should be the end of it. There you go, job done.
Kronos Hopeslayer Blueprint Haus Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.02.11 20:57:00 - [120] I feel I am fairly dark skinned, and even have some nice bling on my ears.
Druadan Institute of Fungineering	Posted - 2008.02.11 21:23:00 - [121]
Angela Toren Amarr Toren Shipyards	Posted - 2008.02.11 21:30:00 - [122] Originally by: Kronos Hopeslayer I feel I am fairly dark skinned, and even have some nice bling on my ears. What has bling got to do with being dark skinned?
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita The Reckoning.	Posted - 2008.02.11 21:49:00 - [123] While we're on the subject of avatars, why is it that Caldari men look like they're balding? I swear I tried for an hour when I made this toon, but I couldn't make him look like anything other than Picard with a toupee... In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.11 21:56:00 - [124] what a lame troll contest. not even 1/10 ------ Tides of Silence
Druadan Institute of Fungineering	Posted - 2008.02.11 22:07:00 - [125] Originally by: Janu Hull While we're on the subject of avatars, why is it that Caldari men look like they're balding? I swear I tried for an hour when I made this toon, but I couldn't make him look like anything other than Picard with a toupee... Make it grow.
Fenderson Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.02.11 22:16:00 - [126] /me is black and proud DO YOU PLAY POKER???? Join ingame channels "DOA Poker" and "Eve Online Hold'em"
Ja'kar MAFIA	Posted - 2008.02.11 22:33:00 - [127] let them have black char whats the big deal?
Marcus Ronin	Posted - 2008.02.11 22:35:00 - [128] I'm not on here trolling or bringing up racial issues, I'm only asking why in the hell I can't make my character a darker skin color as a Gallente. It is called CHARACTER CREATION and I wanted my character to be dark skinned like myself, and questions of "WHY?" does not concern me or is gong to be answered. I only hope that someone from EVE's staff will see this post and maybe address it. Also, those of you that immediately jumped up with all the racism talk may need to look at yourselves for why it is still a problem within our society, because you idiots jumped to conclusions without answering the damn question. My character name is Marcus Ronin, not Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, so get it right.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.11 22:38:00 - [129] Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 11/02/2008 22:43:14 Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 11/02/2008 22:41:04 Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 11/02/2008 22:38:46 Gallente are descendant from the French... a basic white race of Europeans? Caldari too... seeing as how the 2 entities seperated due to idealogical issues 2nd edit: CCP is an Icelandic company... Iceland lies right across from Holland. I'm sure if Iceland was around the horn of Africa you'd see more darker skinned avatars And now that you bring up this whole thing... I want a character that looks like an Eskimo from a purely Irish bloodline Originally by: Avaricia look a goon lol
Sky Grunthor Minmatar MKS Directorate Blackguard Coalition	Posted - 2008.02.11 22:51:00 - [130] Originally by: Cpt Fina Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Unless your trolling the old race issue in which case I have to say that those who draw attention to such differences are in fact the more racist of us. The rest of us, with the innocence of children, didn't realize there was a problem. And the people feeling uncomfortable about such of a discussion often have tendencies to racism. This question shouldn't be more controversial than the ones asking for beards. But alot of people do their best to be as anti-racist as possible, deem such discussion as unethical and they often overdo it and a form of indirect/passive racism comes into play. These are the people that canÆt see the humor in racial, cultural and religious-jokes because they are too afraid of being taken as racists. They are probably people who have to struggle not to look at a handicapped person, like any other human being, on the street too. I'm not uncomfortable with the question. I'm sick and tired of hearing it. It doesn't mean anything to me because you -- whoever you are -- are on the other end of an electron stream and all that matters to me is your words whether they are idiotic words or not. I don't give a rats behind what the avatar colors are, its internet space ships. Search: Sky Grunthor
Ja'kar MAFIA	Posted - 2008.02.11 23:48:00 - [131] Eskimo from a purely Irish bloodline Thats not whats he is asking for - He simply wants his char to have dark skin - again whats the big deal! if CCP never thought if it, np - but now just add it to the game it really don't bother me! and about the French/English lines - you really going to say there are no black people in those bloodlines!
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves	Posted - 2008.02.11 23:56:00 - [132] Hello, I think my char is pretty damn close --------------------------------- Oh noes! Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.02.11 23:58:00 - [133] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Gallente are descendant from the French... a basic white race of Europeans? Caldari too... seeing as how the 2 entities seperated due to idealogical issues The Caldari were part of the gallente federation, not the gallente race. But yeah, the Gallente most of all can excuse being all white. ---- Anything less is wasted effort
Marcus Ronin	Posted - 2008.02.12 00:11:00 - [134] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 11/02/2008 22:43:14 Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 11/02/2008 22:41:04 Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 11/02/2008 22:38:46 Gallente are descendant from the French... a basic white race of Europeans? Caldari too... seeing as how the 2 entities seperated due to idealogical issues 2nd edit: CCP is an Icelandic company... Iceland lies right across from Holland. I'm sure if Iceland was around the horn of Africa you'd see more darker skinned avatars And now that you bring up this whole thing... I want a character that looks like an Eskimo from a purely Irish bloodline
Kasak Black The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.02.12 00:24:00 - [135] When I made Kasak I was most angry that I couldn't make him look like the quintessential British man. I reckon CCP are rascists because of this. And I demand my RIGHTS!
memphistopheles interimo	Posted - 2008.02.12 02:39:00 - [136] As a member of the African American community, I for one would like to know why the darker skinned Minmatar race, of which the Brutor tribe members resemble Lawrence fishburne, are the slaves of eve. Such a blatant stab towards the sanctity of my ancestors memory may not be considered offensive in iceland, where basically 99% of the people are of european lineage, but in America this would not be tolerated.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.12 02:47:00 - [137] uh former slaves tyvm and we are kicking amarr ass every day to remind them why Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to: "Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.02.12 02:47:00 - [138] Originally by: Thicky McThick I wanted a green skinned character, or even a blue one. Red I could live with , maybe even yellow. Maybe yellow with pink spots. Purple with gold stripes. Orange, grey, scarlet. Transparent even, no colour at all, see all the bits inside. The no colour at all can be arranged....Linkage This is what happens when a kestrel with thermal missiles declares war on earth
Adarr Caldari g guild Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.12 04:00:00 - [139] I've experienced glitches with the "Capture" option to get your full-size protrait... maybe it'll work for you too.
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.02.12 04:12:00 - [140] Edited by: Jacob Mei on 12/02/2008 04:14:03 Originally by: Buyerr Originally by: Marcus Ronin I was wodering why there were no selection for dark skinned characters in EVE? well Duhh... this is a future game.. there are NO black people in the futere XD XD hehehehe.... did you see any black people in starwars (the old ones) maybe?! NO, they don't exist in the future, so there you got it, minmatar is the closest you get (which is a slave breed) hahaha... ohh at least i find it funny :P Lando... To the OP: If you want Gallente go with the Jin-Mei bloodline.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.02.12 09:40:00 - [141] Originally by: Ja'kar and about the French/English lines - you really going to say there are no black people in those bloodlines! After twenty thousand years of interbreeding who's to say what racial traits will remain? None of them have particularly common 21st-century features. ---- Anything less is wasted effort
facepalm johnson a sackful of sacrificial sacrifices	Posted - 2008.02.12 09:42:00 - [142] This thread delivers nothing.
Daelin Blackleaf	Posted - 2008.02.12 11:51:00 - [143] Originally by: Marcus Ronin I'm not on here trolling or bringing up racial issues, I'm only asking why in the hell I can't make my character a darker skin color as a Gallente. It is called CHARACTER CREATION and I wanted my character to be dark skinned like myself, and questions of "WHY?" does not concern me or is gong to be answered. I only hope that someone from EVE's staff will see this post and maybe address it. Also, those of you that immediately jumped up with all the racism talk may need to look at yourselves for why it is still a problem within our society, because you idiots jumped to conclusions without answering the damn question. My character name is Marcus Ronin, not Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, so get it right. You have two options. You can select the seemingly african based Brutor race, or you can go down to skin tone and click the arrows on any other bloodline until you see a skin tone more to your liking. Options for character creation are limited, but the reason everyone assumes you are trolling is that almost all the bloodlines have dark skin tones available and we have an entire bloodline that is obviously designed to be black. It's hard for the community to believe that even the greenest newbie is incapable of spotting either option especially given that you seem to be capable of reading in english and are evidently not blind. Presumably at some point you clicked the Brutor bloodline and saw the picture of the large black guy and the dreadlocked black chick. So what, exactly, could you be doing here other than trolling?
Biirk	Posted - 2008.02.12 18:46:00 - [144] Edited by: Biirk on 12/02/2008 18:48:24 To the Issue. I think its a great Idea to loosten up the 'boxes' we are in here. I guess I aplaud the concept that different 'factions' have different racial orientations. But in this situation. Players are distributed for disparate reasions. Some people choose the 'good'or 'bad' faction. 'to be them selves'. Some people choose based on what stats they want. or what kind of ship they want to drive. 'to be what they want', 'themselves'. There is also a desire to look like ones self. Due to all the different factors in faction choice. And, that it is also possibly silly to force a 'race profile' on a faction. And that in 'real life' it dont look like it works that way. ,,, I suggest letting full char apperance options to every faction and root race. I would like to have chosen a 'good guy' galente or minmatar faction for the lore. But, I am a 'good guy' myself. I will express that in my play. I went for 'stats'. and chose the um 'bad' caldari race. (and I do so like the ship colors FWiW) There are too many other constraints on faction, to choose one for race, or temprrament. Hence. I suggest easing the race and temperament bias of the factions. Let people be themselves. then if there are any biases. let it show in the playership naturally. Quote: Just by skimming this thread i saw one person refer to "oriental[s]" and generic "chinese" looking toons for the asian blood lines. Now Im surprised you didnt notice i misspelled 'coloored'. Not a problem? Really. If that is a problem to you. it is one of your own making. 'Loosten up!'. If you have to point there for problems. you must not have many.(or um,, perhaps you do) _______ All Our Base Are Belong To Them
Agent Li Caldari Galactic Defence Consortium BLACKHAWK FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.02.12 18:50:00 - [145] Originally by: Kasak Black When I made Kasak I was most angry that I couldn't make him look like the quintessential British man. I reckon CCP are rascists because of this. And I demand my RIGHTS! Speaking as a bottom-dwelling rotifer, I object to the fact that the only species portrayed as characters are derived from humans. Therefore CCP is showing its bias against other species. I demand that my character be shown as a large purple and green rotifer, with its internal organs everted (a common defensive display in rotifers). ------------------ Let me show you around. That's my lab table, and this is my workstool. And over there is my intergalactic spaceship. And here's where I keep assorted lengths of wire.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.12 19:00:00 - [146] Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 12/02/2008 18:59:59 CCP, I demand my portrait be changed to this! Originally by: Avaricia look a goon lol
Agent Li Caldari Galactic Defence Consortium BLACKHAWK FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.02.12 19:27:00 - [147] I want this to be my toon: http://coris.noaa.gov/glossary/rotifer_186.jpg ------------------ Let me show you around. That's my lab table, and this is my workstool. And over there is my intergalactic spaceship. And here's where I keep assorted lengths of wire.
Altaree Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium	Posted - 2008.02.12 19:33:00 - [148] 1) it's a fantasy game where you play different races. I get the feeling that there has been so much mixing that everyone is a little darker. 2) what am I, Chopped liver? Blue Sky
Angela Toren Amarr Toren Shipyards	Posted - 2008.02.12 21:39:00 - [149] Originally by: memphistopheles I for one would like to know why the darker skinned Minmatar race, of which the Brutor tribe members resemble Lawrence fishburne, are the slaves of eve. Such a blatant stab towards the sanctity of my ancestors memory may not be considered offensive in iceland, where basically 99% of the people are of european lineage, but in America this would not be tolerated. Whether it was intentional or not is beside the point. If aspects of the game offend you so much then don't play the game.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.12 21:44:00 - [150] Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 12/02/2008 21:45:14 Originally by: Altaree 1) it's a fantasy game where you play different races. I get the feeling that there has been so much mixing that everyone is a little darker. 2) what am I, Chopped liver? 1) Minmitar slaves/amarr women... where do you think the Ni Kunni race (edit: Bloodline, not race for you continuity **s) came from? 2. You're bald... not as bald as BOOBHEAD but I haven't seen him around lately Originally by:** Avaricia look a goon lol
Ja'kar MAFIA	Posted - 2008.02.13 17:09:00 - [151] erm... he/she just wants to make a black or at least have a dark skin char, 5 pages, don't turn this into a race debate or political stand point. I mean, let him have darker skin char
Princess Jodi Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2008.02.13 17:17:00 - [152] I am NOT Black! This is just a very good Tan! And I'm saving up to get my hair changed to Blonde too.
Taua Roqa Minmatar Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.02.13 17:18:00 - [153] Edited by: Taua Roqa on 13/02/2008 17:18:48 Originally by: Druadan Originally by: Janu Hull While we're on the subject of avatars, why is it that Caldari men look like they're balding? I swear I tried for an hour when I made this toon, but I couldn't make him look like anything other than Picard with a toupee... Make it grow. i laughed. edit: page 6 snypa in a lame racial troll thread. -------------------------------------------- Threads are stacking-nerfed; the more posts you add the less effective those posts are. mooooooo.
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2008.02.13 17:47:00 - [154] I have a feeling there may be more avatar options available once Ambulation is released. I hope so anyway. Because, tbh... the races are kind of boring in that each race/tribe looks to similar to each other. I also have a feeling there will be epic levels of whining along the same level of "WTF Baby Blue Gallente Ships!?!?!" when people realize their chars won't look anything like they do now. I made a light hearted thread about it last year about one of the possibilities. But just wait and see. Once ambulation gets here, you'all are gonna be like, "Damn, Roy... You were right! Totally called it!" Yes... I'm trying to derail this thread. It needs it. But of course now you're just reading my sig...
M00dy Killed In Action The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2008.02.13 18:33:00 - [155] The racism in this thread is sickening. It sucks when racist people that don't know that they are racistclaim that there is no a racial problem anymore. One funny thing that they do is when they say things like, "I'm not a racist but..." and then they go one to explain how they are racist. I lol every time. Killed In Action The Crimson Federation
Allen Ramses Caldari Typo Corp	Posted - 2008.02.13 19:22:00 - [156] I saw a black man walking across the street once. He was carrying a newspaper and bottled water. I wonder if he was a male prostitute... ____________________ Pimped out Raven to run level 4 missions quickly: 210 Mil ISK. Realizing your 120 Mil ISK Drake gets the job done faster: Priceless.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.13 19:31:00 - [157] TBH, I always did think it a bit rough that there were 7 white skinned races, 4 Asian-syle races, and only one dark skinned race. There are a few more races in the back story (at least one more Minmatar Tribe, atleast 1 more Gallente Federation member, and at least one more conquered Amarr civilization; not to sure about Caldari, but thats easily solved). If CCP do feel the need to bring in a new spate of playable bloodlines, it'd be nice if they used the opportunity to balance out the ethnic groups a bit. Another black-looking race, or maybe some hispanic/meditarranean looking chaps. Variety is nice. ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.13 19:39:00 - [158] Why is there no Eskimo race??? I hereby declare CCP racist against Eskimos! Originally by: Avaricia look a goon lol
SniperWo1f Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.02.13 19:45:00 - [159] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Why is there no Eskimo race??? I hereby declare CCP racist against Eskimos! the use of the word eskimo is racist , you must refer to them as "inuit" or "polar canadians" .
Druadan Institute of Fungineering	Posted - 2008.02.13 19:57:00 - [160] Originally by: Taua Roqa Edited by: Taua Roqa on 13/02/2008 17:18:48 Originally by: Druadan Originally by: Janu Hull While we're on the subject of avatars, why is it that Caldari men look like they're balding? I swear I tried for an hour when I made this toon, but I couldn't make him look like anything other than Picard with a toupee... Make it grow. i laughed. I'm glad someone got it :)
Druadan Institute of Fungineering	Posted - 2008.02.13 20:13:00 - [161] Originally by: SniperWo1f Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Why is there no Eskimo race??? I hereby declare CCP racist against Eskimos! the use of the word eskimo is racist , you must refer to them as "inuit" or "polar canadians" . Not quite.
Xuan Loc	Posted - 2008.02.13 20:26:00 - [162] Originally by: Tellenta Originally by: faxtarious please tell me op is joking o.O prob not.. some people are hung up with real life things when playing a game of internets. TBH I wish they would leave that crap behind it is amazingly irrelevant. but the answer lies in brutor tribe I guess, maybe you clicked the french people and wondered why the french don't have dark skin, then made a thread about it? It isn't a question of being "hung-up with real-life issues", it's more a question about the EVE races reflecting the diversity of the human race in order to create a welcoming environment for all. It therefore isn't "crap" or "irrelevant".
Allen Ramses Caldari Typo Corp	Posted - 2008.02.13 20:29:00 - [163] I once saw an "Intuitive" or "Canadian Snowman" at a job fair. He was arguing some stuff about an entirely unrelated thing with a Comcast representative. As I look back, I get the feeling he was a cross-dressing assassin. ____________________ Pimped out Raven to run level 4 missions quickly: 210 Mil ISK. Realizing your 120 Mil ISK Drake gets the job done faster: Priceless.
Biirk	Posted - 2008.02.13 23:23:00 - [164] The use of the term "Racist" is perjeratively incorrect! You must refer to them as "color chalanged". Or "not colorfull" _______ All Our Base Are Belong To Them
xyeLz	Posted - 2008.02.13 23:33:00 - [165] Why can't we talk about a skin color without even thinking about or mentioning racism.. Regardless of any racism in this thread, I'm dissapointed that it's even discussed. Black chars would be cool though, I've had friends tell me they'd like to play a black character. It'd be nice to revamp portraits a bit and let everyone change em once, there's the brutor who are black but you're also tied to a starting race-skillset and the attributes of brutor, while Achura might be better but not in sync with how you look irl. Selling Character

CCP Saint C C P	Posted - 2008.02.13 23:33:00 - [166] Locked Racism is not to be discussed on the forums. Saint Community Representative EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang


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