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Nasty eX
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Posted - 2008.02.27 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: brainball
Its actually quite fun to suicide a ship into the macrominers and other carebearing infidels.
There you go, yet another gutless comment by a gutless coward. These guys are frail to say the least, with no courage or self worth, not even a worth for the greater good. They are mere pests on the general universe of Eve Online, and for CCP to allow them to use "Jihad" and "Infidels" would suggest that it would be fine for people to start using other anti-social comments freely.
And, for the record, this is an alt. For I am in an Alliance that is blue to Goon, but in shame I will not post under my real characters name because of their recent cowardly actions. There is talk among many about seperating themselves from Goon because of all this... |

RedlegSA
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.27 14:15:00 -
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The explanation is quite simple, a prophet of the Amarr god - Kartoon - peace be upon him - has told us this is the will of the Amarr god - peace be upon him. These events are precipitated by the unbeliever and apostate population of empire, all you must do is follow the will of the Amarr god and slaughter all those who use the wicked hulk and mackinaw - doing so will give you salvation with the Amarr god.
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Nasty eX
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Posted - 2008.02.27 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Go to Motsu and start suicide-ganking CNRs instead 
They never would, cause they know they would get owned!!! See, that's the key here, they pick on the ship types that are weak. A direct reflection on who they are in real life I suppose. That's how the spineless work... So, in light of this, Goonfleet = Spineless? Math sounds right to me! |

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.02.27 14:27:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Nasty eX
Originally by: brainball
Its actually quite fun to suicide a ship into the macrominers and other carebearing infidels.
There you go, yet another gutless comment by a gutless coward. These guys are frail to say the least, with no courage or self worth, not even a worth for the greater good. They are mere pests on the general universe of Eve Online, and for CCP to allow them to use "Jihad" and "Infidels" would suggest that it would be fine for people to start using other anti-social comments freely.
And, for the record, this is an alt. For I am in an Alliance that is blue to Goon, but in shame I will not post under my real characters name because of their recent cowardly actions. There is talk among many about seperating themselves from Goon because of all this...
usually people are really happy when macro miners are killed. what's your deal?
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.02.27 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: RedlegSA The explanation is quite simple, a prophet of the Amarr god - Kartoon - peace be upon him - has told us this is the will of the Amarr god - peace be upon him. These events are precipitated by the unbeliever and apostate population of empire, all you must do is follow the will of the Amarr god and slaughter all those who use the wicked hulk and mackinaw - doing so will give you salvation with the Amarr god.
You have clearly misinterpreted the line "There is no creation without destruction." -------- Ideas for: Mining Clouds
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Kerfira
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.02.27 14:27:00 -
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Edited by: Kerfira on 27/02/2008 14:28:56
Originally by: Nasty eX
Originally by: brainball Its actually quite fun to suicide a ship into the macrominers and other carebearing infidels.
There you go, yet another gutless comment by a gutless coward.
There's nothing wrong with suicide gankings in EVE as CCP has often said. It's part of the game (ref. my sig).
What IS wrong is that its essentially free to do so! The insurance system atm is so fubahr'd that ISK'wise it is close to free to do so.
While I don't like goons (at all), in this case they're just using a hole in game mechanics left wide open by CCP for a long time. I actually applaud it since the more this hole gets used, the more likely it is that CCP will do something about it.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar Military Industrial Research
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Posted - 2008.02.27 14:37:00 -
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At the risk of being shot as a spy I'll give the real explanation. A Goon who manufactures Hulks posted a challenge to Goons (with a reward) to kill as many Hulks as possible in the specific regions where he sells his ships. And Goons being what they are (gods bless them), they jumped on it like good little bees.
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Nasty eX
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Posted - 2008.02.27 14:42:00 -
[38]
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Nasty eX
Originally by: brainball
Its actually quite fun to suicide a ship into the macrominers and other carebearing infidels.
There you go, yet another gutless comment by a gutless coward. These guys are frail to say the least, with no courage or self worth, not even a worth for the greater good. They are mere pests on the general universe of Eve Online, and for CCP to allow them to use "Jihad" and "Infidels" would suggest that it would be fine for people to start using other anti-social comments freely.
And, for the record, this is an alt. For I am in an Alliance that is blue to Goon, but in shame I will not post under my real characters name because of their recent cowardly actions. There is talk among many about seperating themselves from Goon because of all this...
usually people are really happy when macro miners are killed. what's your deal?
Hey, I'm all for nuking a Macro of any type. I've dropped a few smarties on some Mack's myself in the past whom I thought were using Macro's. The fact remains, you don't know if someone is using a Macro or not, unless your actually looking over their shoulder. I know many peeps that have 2, 3, or even 4 accounts and they AFK mine while doing other stuff with the other chars they have logged on. Every 30 minutes or so, they rinse and repeat the cycle of mining. Some might mistake that as a Macro (I did in the past), but they are infact not using a Macro at all. A few of my friends that sit at computers all day at work actually run miners. Why not make a few ISK while at work?
The problem is these Goon cowards are not targetting Macro miners, anything that is easy is what they are going after. There is no skill in what they are doing, any noob with 3 months game time could pull this off easily. Sad part is CCP will only step in when it hits their bottom line in sales...
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Nasty eX
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Posted - 2008.02.27 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Reem Fairchild At the risk of being shot as a spy I'll give the real explanation. A Goon who manufactures Hulks posted a challenge to Goons (with a reward) to kill as many Hulks as possible in the specific regions where he sells his ships. And Goons being what they are (gods bless them), they jumped on it like good little bees.
Ummm, if that is true, wouldn't that be an exploit of the market in some way? I also seen someone post a while back that the insurance payout on a Hulk is extremely low compared to its actual cost. I cannot fly one, so I cannot say for certain.
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brainball
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.27 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Nasty eX
There you go, yet another gutless comment by a gutless coward. These guys are frail to say the least, with no courage or self worth, not even a worth for the greater good. They are mere pests on the general universe of Eve Online, and for CCP to allow them to use "Jihad" and "Infidels" would suggest that it would be fine for people to start using other anti-social comments freely.
And, for the record, this is an alt. For I am in an Alliance that is blue to Goon, but in shame I will not post under my real characters name because of their recent cowardly actions. There is talk among many about seperating themselves from Goon because of all this...
Isnt it ironic that you are talking about cowardism and gutlesness while hiding behind an alt to post.
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Nasty eX
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:04:00 -
[41]
Originally by: brainball
Originally by: Nasty eX
There you go, yet another gutless comment by a gutless coward. These guys are frail to say the least, with no courage or self worth, not even a worth for the greater good. They are mere pests on the general universe of Eve Online, and for CCP to allow them to use "Jihad" and "Infidels" would suggest that it would be fine for people to start using other anti-social comments freely.
And, for the record, this is an alt. For I am in an Alliance that is blue to Goon, but in shame I will not post under my real characters name because of their recent cowardly actions. There is talk among many about seperating themselves from Goon because of all this...
Isnt it ironic that you are talking about cowardism and gutlesness while hiding behind an alt to post.
I hide behind this alt because of your coward actions. I don't want to be associated in any way with Goon because of this, I have a very good reputation in Eve and will continue to protect my good name. Its called Honor, something I doubt you have any idea of what that's about.
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Dramund
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Reem Fairchild At the risk of being shot as a spy I'll give the real explanation. A Goon who manufactures Hulks posted a challenge to Goons (with a reward) to kill as many Hulks as possible in the specific regions where he sells his ships. And Goons being what they are (gods bless them), they jumped on it like good little bees.
Hahahaha how EVE should be played IMO. Nice idea from the manufacturer.
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Euriti
Gallente Black Podding
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:14:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Nasty eX
Originally by: brainball
Originally by: Nasty eX
There you go, yet another gutless comment by a gutless coward. These guys are frail to say the least, with no courage or self worth, not even a worth for the greater good. They are mere pests on the general universe of Eve Online, and for CCP to allow them to use "Jihad" and "Infidels" would suggest that it would be fine for people to start using other anti-social comments freely.
And, for the record, this is an alt. For I am in an Alliance that is blue to Goon, but in shame I will not post under my real characters name because of their recent cowardly actions. There is talk among many about seperating themselves from Goon because of all this...
Isnt it ironic that you are talking about cowardism and gutlesness while hiding behind an alt to post.
We're playing a computer game. Stop taking it so ******* serious and stop comparing everything to the real world and feel offended by it. They're having a good time, let them ffs.
I hide behind this alt because of your coward actions. I don't want to be associated in any way with Goon because of this, I have a very good reputation in Eve and will continue to protect my good name. Its called Honor, something I doubt you have any idea of what that's about.
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Kuseka Adama
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:14:00 -
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So they basically are doing what pirates and bastards all across this game have been doing since its conception. Honestly who gives a flying **** this is SOP in eve. I am surprised as serious as people take this game that computers haven't been destroyed and people haven't tried uploading viruses. Its boneheaded, worthless, and does nothing other than **** with a legitimate game aspect.
Another day in eve. Goonswarm just proves they are as bad as the privateers before they got nerfed to hell.
It also tells me one other thing. No one will ever win the zero sec war. The majority of eve loses either way as both sides are controled by the biggest bastards the game has.
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Bane Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:15:00 -
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we have this gank brutix |

Dramund
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kuseka Adama So they basically are doing what pirates and bastards all across this game have been doing since its conception. Honestly who gives a flying **** this is SOP in eve. I am surprised as serious as people take this game that computers haven't been destroyed and people haven't tried uploading viruses. Its boneheaded, worthless, and does nothing other than **** with a legitimate game aspect.
Another day in eve. Goonswarm just proves they are as bad as the privateers before they got nerfed to hell.
It also tells me one other thing. No one will ever win the zero sec war. The majority of eve loses either way as both sides are controled by the biggest bastards the game has.
Excuse me sir but your post seems self-contradictory. You have to take the game pretty seriously to truly identify players as "bastards." Just think of how ****-boring EVE would be without them.
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Euriti
Gallente Black Podding
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dramund
Originally by: Kuseka Adama So they basically are doing what pirates and bastards all across this game have been doing since its conception. Honestly who gives a flying **** this is SOP in eve. I am surprised as serious as people take this game that computers haven't been destroyed and people haven't tried uploading viruses. Its boneheaded, worthless, and does nothing other than **** with a legitimate game aspect.
Another day in eve. Goonswarm just proves they are as bad as the privateers before they got nerfed to hell.
It also tells me one other thing. No one will ever win the zero sec war. The majority of eve loses either way as both sides are controled by the biggest bastards the game has.
We'd all be glaring at rocks.
Excuse me sir but your post seems self-contradictory. You have to take the game pretty seriously to truly identify players as "bastards." Just think of how ****-boring EVE would be without them.
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RedlegSA
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:22:00 -
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your hulks and mackinaws die now
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Kuseka Adama
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:26:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Dramund
Originally by: Kuseka Adama So they basically are doing what pirates and bastards all across this game have been doing since its conception. Honestly who gives a flying **** this is SOP in eve. I am surprised as serious as people take this game that computers haven't been destroyed and people haven't tried uploading viruses. Its boneheaded, worthless, and does nothing other than **** with a legitimate game aspect.
Another day in eve. Goonswarm just proves they are as bad as the privateers before they got nerfed to hell.
It also tells me one other thing. No one will ever win the zero sec war. The majority of eve loses either way as both sides are controled by the biggest bastards the game has.
Excuse me sir but your post seems self-contradictory. You have to take the game pretty seriously to truly identify players as "bastards." Just think of how ****-boring EVE would be without them.
Nope. I keep in mind two things. I only pay 15 dollars a month and i deal in things far more important than this. Yes like most I like being good at the games i play. But trust me i dont take this anywhere near as seriously as others do. Oh and for the record. If i choose to i can and do curse like a drunken sailor. Bastard is weak for what i typically throw around on other forums. I tone down the language for eve and other moderated forums. Like i said before its just another day eve.
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Nasty eX
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: RedlegSA your hulks and mackinaws die now
Oh, your so tough, aren't you? OMG, a coward speaks again telling the world how much of a tough guy he is by taking out a Hulk or Mack. I pity your children... What a fine example of a human being you must be to them...NOT! |

Prism Roze
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:29:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Nasty eX
Originally by: Reem Fairchild At the risk of being shot as a spy I'll give the real explanation. A Goon who manufactures Hulks posted a challenge to Goons (with a reward) to kill as many Hulks as possible in the specific regions where he sells his ships. And Goons being what they are (gods bless them), they jumped on it like good little bees.
Ummm, if that is true, wouldn't that be an exploit of the market in some way? I also seen someone post a while back that the insurance payout on a Hulk is extremely low compared to its actual cost. I cannot fly one, so I cannot say for certain.
One day I saw that Module X was selling for much less than I deemed it's value to be. So I bought every under-priced one up within 3 regions, and listed them all for triple their old price. Every so often someone tries to undercut me, so I just buy out their stock and sell it for my price instead.
True Story.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:29:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Nasty eX
Originally by: Reem Fairchild At the risk of being shot as a spy I'll give the real explanation. A Goon who manufactures Hulks posted a challenge to Goons (with a reward) to kill as many Hulks as possible in the specific regions where he sells his ships. And Goons being what they are (gods bless them), they jumped on it like good little bees.
Ummm, if that is true, wouldn't that be an exploit of the market in some way? I also seen someone post a while back that the insurance payout on a Hulk is extremely low compared to its actual cost. I cannot fly one, so I cannot say for certain.
No exploits there, just very shrewd and ruthless bussiness practices. However, I really doubt it's going to matter all that much for his bottom line, since the way invention works means the more the price tends to go up, the more inventors are likely to pick up on it, and the end-price remains roughly the same, with only a minimal increase.
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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Nasty eX Personally, I'm very offended by the talk of Jihad that Goonswarm and its corps are ranting about on local. As a proud American, I'm hurt by how easy that very strong word gets used. I have not forgot 9/11, and neither should anyone else in the free world.
Just like the terrorist's back on that horrible day, the Goonswarm and all their associated corps have cowardly attacked miners in high sec with nothing to loose. Then they spout off religious rants in local forcing their beliefs on their victims. I for one will not follow nor tolerate it. In fact, when my time card runs out, I will be cancelling my subscription until CCP does something to stop what is going on.
If I were associated with the Goons in any way, I would be hanging my head in shame on what my fellow Alliance members were doing. Show some balls, stop ganking miners. Any noob can pop a mining ship, show me your real stats and fight a real war without having to hide like the cowards that you are now. Next thing you'll be doing is can baiting the noobs. Just a bunch of wusses in my opinion.
Remember, offensive language in local is against EULA. If you see it, petition it. ThatĘs what really gets goons hot is when they banned for being goons and they are at a very short leash from CCP at the moment. DonĘt quit the game, thatĘs what they want. Fight back.
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Alz Shado
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T No exploits there, just very shrewd and ruthless bussiness practices. However, I really doubt it's going to matter all that much for his bottom line, since the way invention works means the more the price tends to go up, the more inventors are likely to pick up on it, and the end-price remains roughly the same, with only a minimal increase.
A smart businessman wouldn't just be selling Hulks but also the kits the suicide pilots use, at a modest profit.
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Kuseka Adama
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:33:00 -
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The plain fact is anyone in eve can do the same if they chose. I really don't see what the problem is other than true rookies getting hit for nothing more than playing the way they want to. People do this every day just because its Goonswarm everyone seems to be freaking out about it. Where the heck are you people when people in NPC corps do this? Where the heck are you people when high sec pirates decide to hit these targets?
Whats the point of singling out the swarm when there are a hell of a lot of people already who do this on a daily basis?
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Schani Kratnorr
Internal Revenue Service
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Posted - 2008.02.27 15:35:00 -
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The "problem" is one of scale really. The game mechanics allow for attacks in so-called "secure space", but the defences dont scale very well.
A few ships blown up here and there serve to remind everyone that EVE is not a safe place. Once a trend develops however, there is nothing stopping a larger group of players doing whatever they want... even in empire space.
These are the facts:
- Shooting at someone makes you a pirate - this was established early in EVE history
- Wanting to be left alone makes you a carebear - if you dont like it, start shooting
- Most players are both carebear and pirate - everyone is involved in making the tools of warfare, don't deny it.
- No player can proove that any other player is cheating, that is up to the referee to decide
The interesting bit is not one of outrage directed at the re-inventor of ganking stuff. It is a question of adressing the needs of many versus the desires of a few.
Is it fair to allow ganking, and if so, what penalties should apply?
It has been suggested that insurance is voided for people who get blown up by CONCORD. Some have even gone as far as call for an all out deactivation of weapon-modules in 0.5 - 1.0 systems.
Some backstory, and history Some years ago some people got together and decided to exploit a weakness in CONCORD defences. While not technically an exploit, they were able to sit unopposed in Yulai (the #1 hub back then) and blow up hundreds of ships and pods.
The point is, that players had been doing it a while before Zombie Inc. decided to "go for broke", but once taken to the next level, it became a problem - in terms of where the game was heading. (A sidenote. As I recall, seven players were banned because they refused to obay the GM who told them to "stop it".)
Now, back to present time... My point is that even though the game allows you to do something, doesn't mean you should get all your friends and go do it.
And finally, some bile! (You can skip this part if you want) What remains hidden is the motive of the current purpetrator. I cannot help but notice that this latest GS-stunt, has coincided with the "report" feature finally starting to work. GS posters are learning the hard way that these forums also have rules, and they are so paranoid about it that they think it's BoB doing all the reporting.
For the record, I have reported posts, and I know others have. It seems even *shudder* non-BoB players think there's a limit to what should be allowed to pass as a "post".
Perhaps many GS members feel the rest of us "don't get them", and they have decided to show us empire-dwelling plebs how to play EVE. But please GS. Suiciding is so 2003, and references to twisted real-world religius nutters are so 2001.
We all play EVE and pay for it... ONCE. You all get to pay twice. Once to CCP, and once to SA forums... Maybe it's all you elitist, doublefee-paying and anti-social newbies that "don't get" EVE?
Or maybe you all run on game time codes I dont know 
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Everyone Dies
Caldari Lucky Tampon
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Posted - 2008.02.27 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Schani Kratnorr worthless rant
Goonswarm are trying bring back fun to eve without them eve wouldn't be much so stfu.
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Twin blade
Minmatar The Triangle Exa Nation
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Posted - 2008.02.27 16:08:00 -
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Oh man Will you girl's Stop crying all ready its a game get over it so what if the goons are having some fun ganking Hulks most are likey to be marco miner's any way.
If its ture and they are doing it to sell Hulks good on them thats some good market pvp.
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faxtarious
Kai-Zen inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.27 16:24:00 -
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hey goonies..why not pull that same stunt on mission runners...
then you'd see how nasty TRUE carebears can get 
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Brisco Smiley
Peppermint Bay Trading Company
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Posted - 2008.02.27 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Schani Kratnorr references to twisted real-world religius nutters are so 2001.
Religious nutters are timeless, and satire is an exceptionally powerful rhetorical device.
I didn't come to this thread with the intention of hijacking it and flying it into a hi-sec POS, but seeing someone issue a fatwah against mining barges is only offensive to people who fear the future. There is something about freedom of information and the power and subtlety of the Truth that we can only learn by doing. This is as true and as powerful in life as it is in the tubes. Laugh more, cry less, and make your enemies look stupid.
Cheers,
Brisco Smiley
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