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Kahega Amielden	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:52:00 - [211] Quote: And then 33,000 and then 30,000 and then 25,000. I bet CCP will be delighted with that. Yes, because a few people who solo mine in hisec with t2 mining barges getting blown up is going to kill the game.
Maraa Jayde Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:52:00 - [212] Originally by: AndrewRyan Originally by: Gamesguy No one will miss you. For every hulk pilot that quits, 5 joins through steam to mine in ospreys. Dont let the door hit your ass on the way out. You should read an article on MMORPG called Pursuit of a mythical audience which documented SOE ignoring its existing subscribing player base in the hopes of attracting more new players, we all know how well that served SOE. Any development company would be insane to follow in SOEs footsteps after as that visible disaster sets a firm precedent. Yep, and I'm one of that existing "bird in the hand" that SOE lost in their pursuit of "two in the bush" that never showed up.
Jason Travers Space 1999	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:53:00 - [213] Well Gamesguy You obviously donÆt have a real clue on life. For every one pilot the quits you say 5 takes their place is a farce. There is no waiting line to join eve therefore it makes no difference in the amount of people who join at any given time. What does make the difference are the accounts that are no longer drawing in money to CCP, which creates a financial burden. Granted my 3 accounts wonÆt have much impact but you multiply that time say 10 thousand. That will make an impact. As well as the other people that will be turned away from trying the game due to poor reviews.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:53:00 - [214] Originally by: AndrewRyan Originally by: Gamesguy No one will miss you. For every hulk pilot that quits, 5 joins through steam to mine in ospreys. Dont let the door hit your ass on the way out. You should read an article on MMORPG called Pursuit of a mythical audience which documented SOE ignoring its existing subscribing player base in the hopes of attracting more new players, we all know how well that served SOE. Any development company would be insane to follow in SOEs footsteps after as that visible disaster sets a firm precedent. The audience ccp wanted is already here, in fact, they're the ones doing the ganking. So.. get a clue before you post.
Maraa Jayde Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:54:00 - [215] Originally by: Cameron Vayle Originally by: Jason Travers Edited by: Jason Travers on 28/02/2008 00:46:28 Well I just finished reading the report on GS (Goonswarm) ganking highsec miners. (http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=1810&tid=7) To me it is appalling that it is obviously supported by CCP. I myself will say this. I am a highsecer and I play this game for relaxation and for fun. Allowing these terrorists to dictate CCP policy is showing me the real power behind the game and it is obviously not the people but the will and want of a few corps. It sorely reminds me of the situation with the GMÆs and BoB where they were using there powers to give an unfair advantage to BoB. It appears to me, GS is the new BoB. What they have declared publicly is a greafing of highsec people. They are clearly ôtargeting a select group of peopleö with the intent to force them to move into lowersec space by hindering their enjoyment of the game due to their own want. This is clearly against the EULA of the game. I myself will not hesitate at the first time I am ganked in highsec by GS to liquidate all of my assets and hire as many merc corps as possible to wardec every one in the GS. And yes I do have a substantial amount. Once all the isk is used up I will then quit the game and cancel my 3 accounts (yes I 3box) and I will encourage all the highsec corps and individuals to do the same. We as highsecers make up the majority of the financial assets of CCP as well as the in-game isk. If enough of the highsec people were to just quit the game it will put a financial burden on CCP and possibly force them to change their policies or close the game down all together. In addition I will also be writing an article to all the PC and MMO magazines and web reviews about eve and the true workings of it and why in my own opinion not a game for others to play. But I will wait to see if CCP continues to support this action or decides to enforce their own policies or if I get GS ganked. Which ever comes first. Well said! BTW...still waiting on you to come kill me Goonies.... Oh.... Forgot.... you put a 50 million ISK bounty on my head instead.... Guess you are scared of a simple miner after all..... Jump clone, get a friend to pod you, and use that 50M for your merc fund.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:54:00 - [216] Originally by: Jason Travers Well Gamesguy You obviously donÆt have a real clue on life. For every one pilot the quits you say 5 takes their place is a farce. There is no waiting line to join eve therefore it makes no difference in the amount of people who join at any given time. What does make the difference are the accounts that are no longer drawing in money to CCP, which creates a financial burden. Granted my 3 accounts wonÆt have much impact but you multiply that time say 10 thousand. That will make an impact. As well as the other people that will be turned away from trying the game due to poor reviews. Because obviously there are ten thousand hulks in empire getting ganked. Stop trying to pretend this is anything but a drop in the bucket on the scale of things. No one cares if 100 hulk miners quit, so please, by all means, quit.
RedlegSA Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:55:00 - [217] As an employee of the United States government I am horribly offended by GOOOOOOOOOOOONS I will be writing my congressman forthwith.
Xar Zhun	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:56:00 - [218] Originally by: Gamesguy Originally by: SPIONKOP Originally by: Gamesguy Originally by: Xar Zhun Firstly as someone who had to go to a funeral recently of a friend of 15 years who was blown up by a so called jihadist suicide bomber in Iraq I am on the brink of cancelling both of my accounts over this. Forget what these children are doing, the use of language in local is worthy of a ban CCP you have to either deal with this or lose all credibility with those of us who didnt specifically join EVE to PVP. Get your fingers out of your collective arses and make a decision - and if goonswarm are deemed to be out of order at a minimum BAN the devs who are either complicit in this so called "event" Can I have your stuff? Good god, your an insensitive *****. Please, everyone in this thread has had a friend die in iraq, or 9/11, or whatever, because everyone on the internet always tells the truth amiright? I have a friend in the army over in Iraq right now, and he joked around about this stuff when he came over a few months ago on leave. Right so we are lying about this...... Just proves the mentality of these kiddies If thats the best youve got then go back to you pit and knock one off over the pantie catalogue. Just make sure your moomieeeee dont catch you
AndrewRyan	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:56:00 - [219] Originally by: Gamesguy Originally by: AndrewRyan Originally by: Gamesguy No one will miss you. For every hulk pilot that quits, 5 joins through steam to mine in ospreys. Dont let the door hit your ass on the way out. You should read an article on MMORPG called Pursuit of a mythical audience which documented SOE ignoring its existing subscribing player base in the hopes of attracting more new players, we all know how well that served SOE. Any development company would be insane to follow in SOEs footsteps after as that visible disaster sets a firm precedent. The audience ccp wanted is already here, in fact, they're the ones doing the ganking. So.. get a clue before you post. So the statistics in the economic blog showing the majority of people living in high sec are wrong to? Originally by: Malcanis Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Military Industrial Research	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:56:00 - [220] Originally by: SPIONKOP Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: Xoria Mua This is not so much about suicide ganking someone. It is about one of the largest if not the largest alliance in the game ganking a bunch of defenseless boats for no more reason then they can. Mind you this is in high sector space where it is supposed to be relatively safe. What does this say for the game? Why would any one want to join up for this? So I will tell you this I am gone. I have two accounts and no I will not be giving any of you creeps my stuff. I refuse to be the butt of this idiocy and will warn any one to not bother to play this game. I invested over a year of time into manufactoring skills not fighting skills and this sort of twit play is a game breaker for me. Not that I expect you to care about my leaving, however think what if a couple thousand people decide to do this. What will happen to your game then. This sort of stupidity is a game killer. well then I guess we'll only have 36,000 people online instead of 39,000 And then 33,000 and then 30,000 and then 25,000. I bet CCP will be delighted with that. When I started playing a little more than a year ago, it would barely get up to above 25,000 at peak times. They can do without you. Eve has non-consensual pvp combat everywhere, including in high-sec, and it's set up that way. High-sec is meant to be safer, not safe. There is nothing wrong if you don't like that. It just means this isn't the right game for you and maybe you should look for one that suits your taste in games better.
Zorlag Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:57:00 - [221] Edited by: Zorlag on 28/02/2008 00:57:51 Originally by: Maraa Jayde Jump clone, get a friend to pod you, and use that 50M for your merc fund. It's not a bounty on his pod, just here :( i'd get a locator agent but mine is like 10 jumps away whereas defenseless hulks are only 3 jumps away, soooo
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:59:00 - [222] Originally by: Xar Zhun Right so we are lying about this...... Just proves the mentality of these kiddies If thats the best youve got then go back to you pit and knock one off over the pantie catalogue. Just make sure your moomieeeee dont catch you Typical insults a 14 year old uses. Go away troll.
Kahega Amielden	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:59:00 - [223] Quote: Right so we are lying about this...... Just proves the mentality of these kiddies If thats the best youve got then go back to you pit and knock one off over the pantie catalogue. Just make sure your moomieeeee dont catch you Who's more immature: the person who makes controversial jokes for **s and giggles, or the person who goes ape at what some people say over the internets? Stop complaining, toughen up, and stop letting ** like this bother you.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:59:00 - [224] Originally by: AndrewRyan So the statistics in the economic blog showing the majority of people living in high sec are wrong to? The majority of people living in high sec don't mine in hulks or even mine at all past newb attempts to get isk for thier first mission ship. Originally by: MM0RPG EVE Review "if you aren't my friend you are my income."
AndrewRyan	Posted - 2008.02.28 00:59:00 - [225] Originally by: Reem Fairchild Eve has non-consensual pvp combat everywhere, including in high-sec, and it's set up that way. High-sec is meant to be safer, not safe. There is nothing wrong if you don't like that. It just means this isn't the right game for you and maybe you should look for one that suits your taste in games better. Non Consensual pvp is one thing but one of the games largest alliances committing coordinated mass suicide ganks is something else entirely, the only thing that you can compare this to was the Privateers and they got nerfed. Originally by: Malcanis Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
Cameron Vayle Omnicron Industrial Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.28 01:00:00 - [226] Originally by: Maraa Jayde Originally by: Cameron Vayle Originally by: Jason Travers Edited by: Jason Travers on 28/02/2008 00:46:28 Well I just finished reading the report on GS (Goonswarm) ganking highsec miners. (http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=1810&tid=7) To me it is appalling that it is obviously supported by CCP. I myself will say this. I am a highsecer and I play this game for relaxation and for fun. Allowing these terrorists to dictate CCP policy is showing me the real power behind the game and it is obviously not the people but the will and want of a few corps. It sorely reminds me of the situation with the GMÆs and BoB where they were using there powers to give an unfair advantage to BoB. It appears to me, GS is the new BoB. What they have declared publicly is a greafing of highsec people. They are clearly ôtargeting a select group of peopleö with the intent to force them to move into lowersec space by hindering their enjoyment of the game due to their own want. This is clearly against the EULA of the game. I myself will not hesitate at the first time I am ganked in highsec by GS to liquidate all of my assets and hire as many merc corps as possible to wardec every one in the GS. And yes I do have a substantial amount. Once all the isk is used up I will then quit the game and cancel my 3 accounts (yes I 3box) and I will encourage all the highsec corps and individuals to do the same. We as highsecers make up the majority of the financial assets of CCP as well as the in-game isk. If enough of the highsec people were to just quit the game it will put a financial burden on CCP and possibly force them to change their policies or close the game down all together. In addition I will also be writing an article to all the PC and MMO magazines and web reviews about eve and the true workings of it and why in my own opinion not a game for others to play. But I will wait to see if CCP continues to support this action or decides to enforce their own policies or if I get GS ganked. Which ever comes first. Well said! BTW...still waiting on you to come kill me Goonies.... Oh.... Forgot.... you put a 50 million ISK bounty on my head instead.... Guess you are scared of a simple miner after all..... Jump clone, get a friend to pod you, and use that 50M for your merc fund. I would but you see..since the bounty was put out on me on the forums here in this thread you know they, the goonies, will not pay up even if someone does kill me off. I mean..come on...to scared to kill me personally, have to put a bounty on my head as they can't do it ingame per my standing being positive...how much of wht they say can you believe when they make a promise....
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.28 01:01:00 - [227] Edited by: Gamesguy on 28/02/2008 01:01:23 Originally by: AndrewRyan Originally by: Reem Fairchild Eve has non-consensual pvp combat everywhere, including in high-sec, and it's set up that way. High-sec is meant to be safer, not safe. There is nothing wrong if you don't like that. It just means this isn't the right game for you and maybe you should look for one that suits your taste in games better. Non Consensual pvp is one thing but one of the games largest alliances committing coordinated mass suicide ganks is something else entirely, the only thing that you can compare this to was the Privateers and they got nerfed. Dude, its like 50 people from goonswarm, out of over five thousand. Seriously, if goons really wanted to mass suicide gank in highsec, it'd have a much bigger impact than killing a hundred hulks every week. I doubt its coordinated at all, more like just random people doing it because its fun.
SPIONKOP Caldari Imperial Technology	Posted - 2008.02.28 01:01:00 - [228] Originally by: Gamesguy Originally by: SPIONKOP Originally by: Gamesguy Originally by: Xar Zhun Firstly as someone who had to go to a funeral recently of a friend of 15 years who was blown up by a so called jihadist suicide bomber in Iraq I am on the brink of cancelling both of my accounts over this. Forget what these children are doing, the use of language in local is worthy of a ban CCP you have to either deal with this or lose all credibility with those of us who didnt specifically join EVE to PVP. Get your fingers out of your collective arses and make a decision - and if goonswarm are deemed to be out of order at a minimum BAN the devs who are either complicit in this so called "event" Can I have your stuff? Good god, your an insensitive *****. Please, everyone in this thread has had a friend die in iraq, or 9/11, or whatever, because everyone on the internet always tells the truth amiright? I have a friend in the army over in Iraq right now, and he joked around about this stuff when he came over a few months ago on leave. I don't know anyone who died in 9/11 or in Iraq. I only know that people did die and some more will die tomorrow. Maybe he was at a funeral, maybe he wasn't but by mocking him you mock those who will read this having lost friends and loved ones. Please don't do it again. --------------------------------------------- Space For Rent. 100mil ISK/Week.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.02.28 01:02:00 - [229] Originally by: Zorlag Edited by: Zorlag on 28/02/2008 00:57:51 Originally by: Maraa Jayde Jump clone, get a friend to pod you, and use that 50M for your merc fund. It's not a bounty on his pod, just here :( i'd get a locator agent but mine is like 10 jumps away whereas defenseless hulks are only 3 jumps away, soooo well if I]we see him :P Also I don't understand what makes people think that everyone is mining in hulks in .7 sec space?
Jason Travers Space 1999	Posted - 2008.02.28 01:04:00 - [230] Gamesguy you need to get a clue in business. If you had one you would relies that EVE has already grown well beyond the initial inception of it designers. They now employ more people to support the game. You lose the money you cannot pay them and they quit or get laid off. Thus bring about the collapse of the game itself. A small handful of people paying for a few accounts will not support that unless they rise the monthly subscription fee. You wan to pay 30 to 40 USD a month to play a MMO?
Cameron Vayle Omnicron Industrial Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.28 01:04:00 - [231] Originally by: Zorlag Edited by: Zorlag on 28/02/2008 00:57:51 Originally by: Maraa Jayde Jump clone, get a friend to pod you, and use that 50M for your merc fund. It's not a bounty on his pod, just here :( i'd get a locator agent but mine is like 10 jumps away whereas defenseless hulks are only 3 jumps away, soooo Another point has just been proven.... Goonies can't READ.... IF they could he would have seen that I posted my home sector.... but since it seems to be needed again I will try to post it slower so they can understand it... I am in SHARELUND.... or do you need it even slower so you can comprehend it? IF you need help go get someone off the street to read it for you.
Zorlag Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.28 01:06:00 - [232] Originally by: Cameron Vayle Originally by: Zorlag Edited by: Zorlag on 28/02/2008 00:57:51 Originally by: Maraa Jayde Jump clone, get a friend to pod you, and use that 50M for your merc fund. It's not a bounty on his pod, just here :( i'd get a locator agent but mine is like 10 jumps away whereas defenseless hulks are only 3 jumps away, soooo Another point has just been proven.... Goonies can't READ.... IF they could he would have seen that I posted my home sector.... but since it seems to be needed again I will try to post it slower so they can understand it... I am in SHARELUND.... or do you need it even slower so you can comprehend it? IF you need help go get someone off the street to read it for you. Yeah i didn't read that either but I'm betting you're further away than even my locator agent, so you're safe for now, return to bravely raging, pubbie
AndrewRyan	Posted - 2008.02.28 01:06:00 - [233] And as for the goons claiming it to be just Hulks check this one out from the front page of thier KB:- 2008.02.27 20:23:00 Victim: XXXXXX Alliance: NONE Corp: School of Applied Knowledge Destroyed: Bantam System: Allamotte Security: 0.6 Damage Taken: 742 Involved parties: Name: Dreiden Kisada (laid the final blow) Security: -0.6 Alliance: GoonSwarm Corp: GoonFleet Ship: Kestrel Weapon: Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Damage Done: 742 Destroyed items: Civilian Shield Booster I Dropped items: 50mm Reinforced Steel Plates I Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I Miner I Small Shield Booster I Uranium Charge S, Qty: 32 Mining Drone I (Drone Bay) Thats a funny looking Hulk......... Originally by: Malcanis Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Military Industrial Research	Posted - 2008.02.28 01:06:00 - [234] Edited by: Reem Fairchild on 28/02/2008 01:07:29 Originally by: AndrewRyan Originally by: Reem Fairchild Eve has non-consensual pvp combat everywhere, including in high-sec, and it's set up that way. High-sec is meant to be safer, not safe. There is nothing wrong if you don't like that. It just means this isn't the right game for you and maybe you should look for one that suits your taste in games better. Non Consensual pvp is one thing but one of the games largest alliances committing coordinated mass suicide ganks is something else entirely, the only thing that you can compare this to was the Privateers and they got nerfed. That isn't really what is happening at all. The GS alliance leadership has nothing to do with it, and it's not really coordinated.
Cori4n Caldari principle of motion	Posted - 2008.02.28 01:35:00 - [235] Edited by: Cori4n on 28/02/2008 01:35:34 Originally by: Zorlag You people seriously have no idea how much I love this thread You have no idea how much this thread makes me want to be a Goon :(
IlIlIlI lIlIlIl GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.28 01:37:00 - [236] Originally by: Thenoran If an entire Alliance Twelve guys in channel. Twelve. 12. The number of your fingers, plus your thumbs twice. Quote: is out to kill all the high-sec miners Just the ones in 0.5-0.7, in hulks or macks, preferably in ice belts. Plus the occasional random "dude why'd you kill that guy?" "hur hur, uh, because?" "ok, rock on" kill.
Kahega Amielden	Posted - 2008.02.28 01:37:00 - [237] 1) They're not killing all hisec miners, they're killing those mining in Barges. 2) Noobs are not in mining barges, and mining barges are competition. Ergo, killing them IS helping noobs 3) In EVE you need no justification for pewpewing someone. You consent to PVP when you undock.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.02.28 01:38:00 - [238] Originally by: Thenoran Originally by: Kahega Amielden Quote: Suiciding any miner just because they are easy targets? Lame Why? If an entire Alliance is out to kill all the high-sec miners, with little to no ISK loss (insuring a cheap t1 ship), it is lame since I can loss a 100mil+ trying to do my thing, while the suicide ganker loses next to nothing and could do it again, whereas I can't. I agree that the newbies should be helped in trying to go to a belt in their shiny Bantam and finding roids and not Hulks, but how does killing Mackinaws help in this? Mackinaws are no good asteroid miners (My Rokh outmines it), they are purely Ice miners, and Ice can only be mined with an Mining Barge, ergo not noob players so attacking Mackinaws is in NO WAY trying to help noobs, Ice Fields are also damned gigantic (you mine 1 unit, and there are like... a thousand 100k ice roids) so its not like there isn't any Ice in high-sec, you just need to know where to look. Economic warfare? Take out highsec ice production and drive up the prices. Maybe some enterprising swarmies have large ice stockpiles from thier industrial alts and want to make a run on the market? Originally by: MM0RPG EVE Review "if you aren't my friend you are my income."
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Military Industrial Research	Posted - 2008.02.28 01:39:00 - [239] Originally by: Cameron Vayle What is worse? Not knowing or not doing anything about it because you " have nothing to do with it" even though you are the leadership? You as the leader are held accountable for the actios of everyone under your command in your corp. Well, the real point was that this is not something Goonswarm is doing as an alliance. It's something that a group of regular members started doing spontaneously on their own. So saying that this is a coordinated effort by Goonswarm as an alliance (as the person I was replying to was saying) is wrong. It isn't. My god, you don't want to see what 300+ Goons running around in high-sec space, at the same time, could do.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.02.28 01:41:00 - [240] Originally by: Reem Fairchild My god, you don't want to see what 300+ Goons running around in high-sec space, at the same time, could do. What? Lag out every system they jumped into? Originally by: MM0RPG EVE Review "if you aren't my friend you are my income."

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