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Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 439	Posted - 2012.04.22 18:15:00 - [121] - Quote Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote: Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: lol 7 votes yes vs 88 votes no I guess eve posters could decipher your posts alright wonder how long till the trolls jump in and troll poast yesses just to troll it but the ratio says something towards that "everyone likes wtz" idea doesnt it? It was clearly goonies defending their, uh, bubbles. Because otherwise sales of our certified warp disruption bubbles will suffer as they won't be used as much for gatecamps.. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2012.04.22 18:20:00 - [122] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote: Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: lol 7 votes yes vs 88 votes no I guess eve posters could decipher your posts alright wonder how long till the trolls jump in and troll poast yesses just to troll it but the ratio says something towards that "everyone likes wtz" idea doesnt it? It was clearly goonies defending their, uh, bubbles. Because otherwise sales of our certified warp disruption bubbles will suffer as they won't be used as much for gatecamps.. the 28th mittens comes back yea? Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Cutter Isaacson Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 39	Posted - 2012.04.22 18:40:00 - [123] - Quote YuuKnow wrote: Doc Fury wrote: You know how I know the OP never played EVE before warp to zero? No likes for you either way OP, you are an idiot. /poasting in the monthly "remove warp to zero" thread. Nope. Check my ingame birthdate Dumbass. Now whose's the idiot. You are, idiot.
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 19	Posted - 2012.04.22 18:45:00 - [124] - Quote Cutter Isaacson wrote: YuuKnow wrote: Doc Fury wrote: You know how I know the OP never played EVE before warp to zero? No likes for you either way OP, you are an idiot. /poasting in the monthly "remove warp to zero" thread. Nope. Check my ingame birthdate Dumbass. Now whose's the idiot. You are, idiot. Yussir, I can buy a old guy too Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
YuuKnow 256	Posted - 2012.04.23 05:07:00 - [125] - Quote Belshazzar Babylon wrote: OP I think you have the answers and Likes you were looking for. Somebody please lock this riculous thread. What I find hilarious is that there was a 2 month span from the original thread and your post here... wasn't this thread already dead? What the huh? What is also funny is that most of the poster now havn't a clue that they are posting in a zombi thread. yk
Darc Kaahar Valkyr Industries Late Night Alliance 17	Posted - 2012.04.23 05:48:00 - [126] - Quote I liked both posts and didn't read most of the op. Hi
Peter Raptor Plutonian Army 86	Posted - 2012.04.23 09:11:00 - [127] - Quote If WTZ is out, so will most players be, after they die of boredom trying to get from A to B. Ridiculous Idea.
Kingston Black Hostile. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS 10	Posted - 2012.04.23 10:05:00 - [128] - Quote as a lowsec gatecampy pirate i think getting rid of warp to zero is an awful idea warp to zero was added because flying through space before was a nightmare. If your a pirate and cant figure out how to kill a guy jumping through a gate you should give up and go back to highsec tbh its fine as it is and certainly doesnt need a boost
Marcus Harikari Guitar Players of EVE 37	Posted - 2012.04.23 10:26:00 - [129] - Quote no no no no no no! In fact, autopilot should also warp to zero!
Ishihiro tanaka NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation 9	Posted - 2012.04.23 10:50:00 - [130] - Quote He look, this thread again. A couple of years back we had the same thing, but then in reverse. Why re-invent the inventing of the wheel? It was adressed a long time ago becasue of DB issues of each and every pilot stacking up metric loads of BM's in their people and places tab.
Elistea The Dark Reapers 66	Posted - 2012.04.23 10:54:00 - [131] - Quote And yet another bullshit. U dont like warp to 0 ? QUIT
Alexandra Alt Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 158	Posted - 2012.04.23 10:59:00 - [132] - Quote Why going back to last decade ?! No.
Lt Angus Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 64	Posted - 2012.04.23 11:06:00 - [133] - Quote too many monkeys going anywhere that even warp to 15 wouldnt fix it now, things being far away is an outdated concept sadly
Zora'e Nasty Pope 2	Posted - 2012.04.23 11:30:00 - [134] - Quote Simply put. No. In EVE Online...-á-áA Friend will calm you down when you are angry after getting Ganked.., but a Best Friend will fly along beside you commanding a Strike Group singing "Someones Gonna Get It!!!".-á ~Zora'e
Ciar Meara Virtus Vindice 630	Posted - 2012.04.23 13:01:00 - [135] - Quote YuuKnow wrote: baltec1 wrote: My pvp side tingles but my orca side is repulsed. Also bookmarks. Well the concept would be that instajump bookmarks wouldn't work, because the gates/stations would act like warp-inhibitor bubbles dropping any ship out of warp at 15km even if the ship was trying to use bookmarks. I like this idea, however, many will not. I like it because: - makes supply lines harder - makes blockade runners more effective - sounds harder - has logic - makes scouts a job - need to protect your cargo better - jump freighters become more of a thing - spying gets a boost I'd only really supported if local in 0.0 where also delayed/cut/changed. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]
Jon Taggart State War Academy Caldari State 32	Posted - 2012.04.23 13:12:00 - [136] - Quote Where did the recent surge for this idea come from? Quite a few people seem to forget how atrociously boring it was when we DIDN'T have Warp to Zero. Or they simply weren't around before we got it. People needed a ton of different bookmarks and it made the whole thing unnecessarily bloated and time consuming. If CCP has some sense, they will never consider this idea. Moving backwards is not a sound business strategy.
Karn Dulake Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance 501	Posted - 2012.04.23 13:30:00 - [137] - Quote Funniest junk ever OP. Instead of getting more targets for your fail gate camps you would just find that no one ever went that way anymore. At least with the current mechanics you have a chance of catching someone -1 and lols at the OP I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 639	Posted - 2012.04.23 13:30:00 - [138] - Quote No. Removal of WTZ is not the answer. Sorry for the cross posting but it's relevant: ...previous discussion on the topic before it was released (August 2006): Warp to Zero desperately needed (this is from BEFORE WTZ, includes original justifications) Gogela wrote: 1) There are no logistics in eve because of teleportation 2) Travel in eve is safer now than it has ever been in the games history This is the problem ^ There is an inverse relationship between how compelling eve is to play and how safe it is. WTZ, if removed, would begin decrease the safety factor, and begin to address the logistics problem, but it would introduce so much annoyance that it would more than negate any gains. We need another solution. Removing WTZ is not it. We need a comprehensive solution, and it's not going to be so simple. Gê¦Gê¦-áEvery Ship in GëíGêçGëí-áGê¦Gê¦ GëíGêçGëí-+ odd items
Simetraz State War Academy Caldari State 221	Posted - 2012.04.23 14:00:00 - [139] - Quote The old warp to zero BM's where actually BM 15 KM past the gate. They could have been BM 100 KM past the gate just as easily. Or you would send a small ship in, covert ops or frig depending on location and then you warped so far off of them. There where a lot of ways people got around the no warp to zero. Adding back in a mechanic that nobody really wants or cares about is a waste of time. I would rather see CCP put out mines again or something else in limited fashion to see how those work. How about suicide drones ? Or warp bubbles that actually pull people out of warp. Removing warp to zero across the board just causes more issues then it fixes.
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 640	Posted - 2012.04.23 14:03:00 - [140] - Quote Simetraz wrote: Removing warp to zero across the board just causes more issues then it fixes. If I could make that 40 point font size I would. ^^^ Gê¦Gê¦-áEvery Ship in GëíGêçGëí-áGê¦Gê¦ GëíGêçGëí-+ odd items
Nephilius Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 362	Posted - 2012.04.23 14:19:00 - [141] - Quote No. Sorry, there is no reason to get rid of WTZ. I love flying titans in Jita, setting bubbles in Rens,-áor firing off bombs from my stealth bomber-áin Dodixie!-á Just think, if Eve wasn't a sandbox, none of this would be possible!
Jastra Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 83	Posted - 2012.04.23 14:25:00 - [142] - Quote Jack Miton wrote: Please go back to 2008 when there was no wtz... EVE has moved on and no one wants to go back to copying hundreds of bookmarks before ever roam. yup, buying region bookmarks was very good for the folks selling them, not so much for everyone else, all this would mean is that people would just do what they do now which is BM everything in nullsec and then warp to zero anyway, and the same would happen in highsec, might take longer but that would be the result and you would be back to square 1
I Love Boobies All Hail Boobies 92	Posted - 2012.04.23 14:25:00 - [143] - Quote They will not get rid of warp to zero for the basic fact people would go and make "Instas" again which in turn will ruin server performance. That was the reason why warp to zero was added to the game in the first place. Server lag was so bad when people were copying them to either sell or give to corpmates. ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs.
Kengutsi Akira Ministry of War Amarr Empire 431	Posted - 2012.04.23 14:41:00 - [144] - Quote Man why is it ppl in this game always want CCP to DOWNGRADE the game? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909 My stance on WiS (updated)
ivar R'dhak STK Scientific 39	Posted - 2012.04.23 14:42:00 - [145] - Quote Apart from being a brilliant idea to farm "likes" this thread is great. I still remember the mind-numbing boredom and frustration of copying "highsec-fastlane" bookmarks and their 0.0 pendants. Best day ever, when I deleted the hundreds of gate and station-docking BMs. Getting rid of this "feature" was the single best idea CCP EVER had. Though I-¦m sure they fought tooth and nails against getting rid of this "player-griefing". But had to give in mainly because they were killing the server with it. As for your warp bubble idea. It-¦s crap and useless. We have warp bubbles for a reason and gate-camping already is ridiculously easy and slanted towards the attacker/suicide-ganker in high-sec. The last thing they need is an easier life.
Kengutsi Akira Ministry of War Amarr Empire 431	Posted - 2012.04.23 14:47:00 - [146] - Quote ivar R'dhak wrote: Apart from being a brilliant idea to farm "likes" this thread is great. Actually none of your points in the "NO" post are valid. I still remember the mind-numbing boredom and frustration of copying "highsec-fastlane" bookmarks and their 0.0 pendants. Best day ever, when I deleted the hundreds of gate and station-docking BMs. Getting rid of this "feature" was the single best idea CCP EVER had. Though I-¦m sure they fought tooth and nails against getting rid of this "player-griefing". But had to give in mainly because they were killing the server with it. lol I was gonna argue with you till I realized I agreed with you sorry, wicked headache and I have surgery tomorrow so I cat take asprin etc https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909 My stance on WiS (updated)
evereplicant Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 99	Posted - 2012.04.23 14:53:00 - [147] - Quote I love new players who know no history. There was a reason this got removed in the first place. People going through low sec etc basically had ZERO chance of survival, its was campers heaven. You know why dont know go on the other side of the gate like us proper pirates do, use fast locking setups and blast away. Honestly its not hard to do!
ivar R'dhak STK Scientific 39	Posted - 2012.04.23 14:53:00 - [148] - Quote Kengutsi Akira wrote: lol I was gonna argue with you till I realized I agreed with you Heh, and you bastich got my first $hitpost try before I actually noticed the OPs "Gate-Warp-Bubble" idea. Post now corrected to a less $hittier state.
Momoyo Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension 26	Posted - 2012.04.23 15:50:00 - [149] - Quote Im sure some industrialists would ragequit over this. Theres other solutions to this like introducing new bubble technology that you can tune to a specific persons or corp/alliance ship so it only affects them and not others.
Cavel Avada Jericho Faction Rising Phoenix Alliance 2	Posted - 2012.04.23 15:51:00 - [150] - Quote I vote no. I'm still new to this game, and I hate this idea simply because it would make doing day-to-day things take so much longer. I have a job, and a life, and I don't want to have to spend an hour making 10 jumps.

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