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Tobiaz
Spacerats
284
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Posted - 2012.04.22 13:35:00 -
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With the current mechanics in EVE I think the Wt0 should stay.
The problems 'galaxy village', the 'one-player-Wall-Marts' in Jita' and no targets in low-sec are the result of other more fundamental problems that need their own solutions. Removing Wt0 is not going to help much in that at all. The older players that have witnessed the changes over the years will probably all confirm it. CCP, fix the forum's image tags http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tobiaz/sig_complaints.gif
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Ank Parkor
WildSpace Otters
30
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Posted - 2012.04.22 14:37:00 -
[92] - Quote
Guys who like warp to zero: - Industrialists - PVers generally - Traders, and anyone who doesn't really want to fly an Abaddon each time he has a 200M+ cargo to haul
Guys who dislike: - Suicide gankers - Griefers - People that claims to without understanding the purpose but just wants to appear cool - Hey, I am such a bad boy my tornado just alpha'ed this Iteron! LOL 1!1!1!1! This two months old guy now fears my high pvp skills!
Seriously it is the same debate again and again. Grow some balls and go living in null if you like pvp. Suicide ganking miners or haulers don't make a man of you *****.
I quitted wow community and it's the same here. Kids claiming there are specials and rebels until their mother call them for the dinner.
Please please please CCP allow players with 5.0 SS to engage first players with negative SS without retalation of Concord or standing loss. Allow justicars to exist. We could clean the whole universe and no kids would be spamming my local anymore. Short time trader, short term missionner, long term ambitions. |

Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
65
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Posted - 2012.04.22 14:49:00 -
[93] - Quote
Ank Parkor wrote:]Please please please CCP allow players with 5.0 SS to engage first players with negative SS without retalation of Concord or standing loss.
This is an interesting idea |

Enuen Ravenseye
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
28
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Posted - 2012.04.22 14:53:00 -
[94] - Quote
Just say "No".
Gate camps should be eliminated, not encouraged. Gates are one of the worst mechanics in the game.
Eliminate gates and allow pilots to jump to any celestial in the target system. At the same time, also eliminate local.
That's how you properly spice up the game mechanics. |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
661
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Posted - 2012.04.22 14:54:00 -
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BWAA HAAA HAAAAA!!!!! Man. Gate camping must be a real hoot these days. There they sit in that empty system, waiting....waiting....waiting...."Hey! Where's all the auto-piloters?? This ain't right! What if....what if all these people were FORCED to stop 15k from the gate??? THEN we'd have a victim...or two...or three....!! I KNOW!! I'll do a POLL. Since the MAJORITY of EVE players gate camp, we'll easily PROVE it's CHEATING to warp to ZERO!!!"
type...type...type...think...think...think....type...type....think....type....
BWAAAA HAAAA HAAAAA!!!! Why aren't you writin' for sitcoms??? I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |

Caellach Marellus
Aideron Robotics Darkmatter Initiative
517
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Posted - 2012.04.22 14:56:00 -
[96] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwiYNYlqJL0 Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |

Whitehound
165
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Posted - 2012.04.22 14:56:00 -
[97] - Quote
Ank Parkor wrote:... Please please please CCP allow players with 5.0 SS to engage first players with negative SS without retalation of Concord or standing loss. Allow justicars to exist. We could clean the whole universe and no kids would be spamming my local anymore.
Post Scriptum: SS 4.5+ : can attack any players with negative SS without concord retaliation or standing loss. All others rule apply. SS 3+ : can attack players with a bounty on their head.
PVP everywhere and for everyone. Too bad all the badass pirates roaming in hi-sec won't agree to be targeted by anything but a miner.
Then OK to remove warp to zero. This thread just got pretty.
No more crappy expansions!-á Raise A Little Hell"20 percent of CCP staff fired!" - CEO 'Mr. Nice' Hilmar |

Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
171
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Posted - 2012.04.22 14:58:00 -
[98] - Quote
1. No Support
2. Posting in yet anther "I want easier ganks" thread.
Nothing clever at this time. |

Benny Ohu
The Lazy Dragoons True Apathy
53
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Posted - 2012.04.22 15:04:00 -
[99] - Quote
This is a spacelikes thread in disguise, isn't it?
Absolutely shameless |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
472
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Posted - 2012.04.22 15:16:00 -
[100] - Quote
warp to 15 was ******* horrible. |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
530
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Posted - 2012.04.22 15:16:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote: 1. Gate-camping would be even more effective. <- thats a bad thing 2. Easier to patrol your claimed territor because you can catch intruders more easily <- meh 3. Hi-sec War declarations would be more fun and effective because you have more opprotunity to 'catch' your enemies<- that is a bad thing 4. Hi-sec suicide ganking would be more common<- that is a bad thing 5. It would multiple the advantage of smaller faster ships as more useful than larger ships.<- i guess that is good but it would simply mean there would be 1-2 interceptors in every camp to simple web the hell out of anyone till someone else could lock and kill it 6. Other.
Post alternative, reasoning below.
warp to 0 was implemented because everyone made bookmarks on gates... to save database space from he 2000 bookmarks on gates they added warp to 0 hopefully its here to stay It would only hurt the game to remove it |

stoicfaux
957
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Posted - 2012.04.22 15:27:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote: 1. Gate-camping would be even more effective. 2. Easier to patrol your claimed territor because you can catch intruders more easily 5. It would multiple the advantage of smaller faster ships as more useful than larger ships.
How about disabling WTZ just for null-sec? High-sec has WTZ because the Factions want to encourage trade and have advanced "warp beacons" on the games to make travel (i.e. trade) easier. Null either doesn't have those "warp beacons", or could pay to upgrade their stargates with beacons, or they can program their WTZ beacons to only work for those with friendly standings.
/pre-emptive apology if someone has already suggested this, since I couldn't be bothered to read the previous six pages of posts that are sure to contain a large amount of whining, baiting, and noise in general.
Also, +1 for the "like one of two posts" poll format. Kudos.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
323
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Posted - 2012.04.22 15:30:00 -
[103] - Quote
Yes. Space-likes for you.
In other words, keep WTZ -but build a 15km bubble into every Warp Gate.
Sounds like a win. Might have to tweak the range at which you spawn on entry (so people aren't tripping over the bubble everytime they try to warp to a new location)
Bookmarks would be useless for 'gaming the system' - and thus players will not use them - and cause a lag problem.
Forcing travel-time to a gate would be a huge buff for smaller ships (frigs and cruisers....which can move through more systems faster....). As it is, you can move a huge battleship 25 jumps nearly as quickly as a smaller ship - the only difference being alignment time. This is a major flaw. A convenient flaw for some, but a balancing flaw, none the less.
Slowing down logistics would be a good thing, push players further away from Jita, increase the importance of other trade hubs. Traders would have to work harder (except for the AFK freighters) but this will lead to price variations between regions and make it more profitable. |

Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
323
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Posted - 2012.04.22 15:35:00 -
[104] - Quote
Herping yourDerp wrote:YuuKnow wrote: 1. Gate-camping would be even more effective. <- thats a bad thing 2. Easier to patrol your claimed territor because you can catch intruders more easily <- meh 3. Hi-sec War declarations would be more fun and effective because you have more opprotunity to 'catch' your enemies<- that is a bad thing 4. Hi-sec suicide ganking would be more common<- that is a bad thing 5. It would multiple the advantage of smaller faster ships as more useful than larger ships.<- i guess that is good but it would simply mean there would be 1-2 interceptors in every camp to simple web the hell out of anyone till someone else could lock and kill it 6. Other.
Post alternative, reasoning below.
warp to 0 was implemented because everyone made bookmarks on gates... to save database space from he 2000 bookmarks on gates they added warp to 0 hopefully its here to stay It would only hurt the game to remove it
Keep WTZ. Add 15km warp disruptor bubble to gate. Database saved. Everyone wins.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
438
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Posted - 2012.04.22 15:39:00 -
[105] - Quote
Hey, it's like bubble camping a gate, except now you don't need to bring bubbles.
Lowsec can finally have a taste of the delicious warp disruptor bubbles <3 Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Hauling Hal
The Black Ops
52
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Posted - 2012.04.22 15:39:00 -
[106] - Quote
stoicfaux wrote:YuuKnow wrote: 1. Gate-camping would be even more effective. 2. Easier to patrol your claimed territor because you can catch intruders more easily 5. It would multiple the advantage of smaller faster ships as more useful than larger ships.
How about disabling WTZ just for null-sec? High-sec has WTZ because the Factions want to encourage trade and have advanced "warp beacons" on the games to make travel (i.e. trade) easier. Null either doesn't have those "warp beacons", or could pay to upgrade their stargates with beacons, or they can program their WTZ beacons to only work for those with friendly standings. /pre-emptive apology if someone has already suggested this, since I couldn't be bothered to read the previous six pages of posts that are sure to contain a large amount of whining, baiting, and noise in general. Also, +1 for the "like one of two posts" poll format. Kudos.
If null-sec alliances can't be bothered to bubble and guard their gates, then that is their problem, not CCPs. Stop trying to make the game 'easy'. |

Yatama Kautsuo
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.04.22 15:40:00 -
[107] - Quote
7 / 82
and now shut up already with wtz topics... |

Voith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.04.22 15:49:00 -
[108] - Quote
Removing warp to 0 will not fix your problem
Your problem is that you're bad at eve. If warp from zero was removed you would find some other change to rally before, but the core problem of "bad at Eve" would remain. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
812
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Posted - 2012.04.22 15:50:00 -
[109] - Quote
Thread is bad,you should feel bad. And also,no. |

Justice Comes
Republic University Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.04.22 16:32:00 -
[110] - Quote
Lyron-Baktos wrote:you want to make the gay gate camps even gayer?
You seem to be some sort of expert on gayness. Most annoying thing of the week: You failed to dock/jump because you are cloaked (in your Deep Space Transport). |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
679
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Posted - 2012.04.22 16:50:00 -
[111] - Quote
lol 7 votes yes vs 88 votes no
I guess eve posters could decipher your posts alright |

Hikaru Kuroda
Shimai of New Eden
52
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Posted - 2012.04.22 16:53:00 -
[112] - Quote
1. Spam bubbles around the gate. 2. Watch people falling inside at 10km. 3. ???? 4. Profit. |

Opertone
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
123
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Posted - 2012.04.22 16:56:00 -
[113] - Quote
Supported!
I want to get rid of warp...
warp out in combat - stupid, only in non combat it should work.
stupid as scroll of escape, magic teleport etc. |

Galadriel Vasquez
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
31
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Posted - 2012.04.22 17:22:00 -
[114] - Quote
What is this warp thing you all talk of?
I have tin foil hat trained to 5. |

Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
66
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Posted - 2012.04.22 17:41:00 -
[115] - Quote
1a. Gate-camping would be even more effective fool-proofed. 2a. Easier to patrol your claimed territory because you can catch intruders more easily when you just can't be arsed to drop/anchor a bubble or bother with having the pesky mail-whoring interceptors along! 3a. Hi-sec War declarations would be more fun and effective because you have more opprotunity to 'catch' your enemies for the griefing party as he guarantees the mark stays docked and thus doesn't get to play Eve. 4a. Hi-sec suicide ganking would be more common omnipresent. 5a. It would multiple the advantage of smaller faster ships as more useful than larger ships along with prayers that the enemy hasn't figured out how to use remote-/-SeBo's.
1b. Travel times would be longer. Much, much longer in larger ships. 2b. Hi-sec suicide ganking would be easier and more common so easy that drunk ******** chimps distracted by a banana could do it.. 3b. Breaking through low sec and null sec gate camps would be harder nigh impossible. 4b. Avoiding warring oponents would be harder require you to spend the week in WoT.
Quote:These are basically convience and anti-pvp reasons. Yes, the whole idea is indeed a lazy mans wish for killboard padding as Eve becomes a never ending series of ganks at celestial's.
It was, is and will always be a horrid idea.
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2012.04.22 17:42:00 -
[116] - Quote
Sasha Azala wrote:How about keep it as it is.
Seem to remember there was no warp to 0 around 2005. 30 jumps back then was a far more boring that it is today when you're not afk.
Although I was out of the game at the time warp to 0 was introduced I believe it was introduced to reduce lag, at least that's what I heard.
this
unless you wanna do like that one other poster and ban ppl for bookmarking by a gate cause thats TOTALLY a great idea
Opertone wrote:Supported!
I want to get rid of warp...
warp out in combat - stupid, only in non combat it should work.
stupid as scroll of escape, magic teleport etc.
learn to warp scram Jeez I dont even PVP an I have that skill learned
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Cpt Arareb
Ideal Machine Many Reckless Corps
14
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Posted - 2012.04.22 17:51:00 -
[117] - Quote
yes oh please YES!! |

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2012.04.22 17:53:00 -
[118] - Quote
Veshta Yoshida wrote:1a. Gate-camping would be even more effective fool-proofed. 2a. Easier to patrol your claimed territory because you can catch intruders more easily when you just can't be arsed to drop/anchor a bubble or bother with having the pesky mail-whoring interceptors along! 3a. Hi-sec War declarations would be more fun and effective because you have more opprotunity to 'catch' your enemies for the griefing party as he guarantees the mark stays docked and thus doesn't get to play Eve. 4a. Hi-sec suicide ganking would be more common omnipresent. 5a. It would multiple the advantage of smaller faster ships as more useful than larger ships along with prayers that the enemy hasn't figured out how to use remote-/-SeBo's. 1b. Travel times would be longer. Much, much longer in larger ships. 2b. Hi-sec suicide ganking would be easier and more common so easy that drunk ******** chimps distracted by a banana could do it.. 3b. Breaking through low sec and null sec gate camps would be harder nigh impossible. 4b. Avoiding warring oponents would be harder require you to spend the week in WoT. Quote:These are basically convience and anti-pvp reasons. Yes, the whole idea is indeed a lazy mans wish for killboard padding as Eve becomes a never ending series of ganks at celestial's. It was, is and will always be a horrid idea.
lol this isea is anti HTFU wrapped up in speech that makes ity seem like youre hardening up the game
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
478
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Posted - 2012.04.22 17:54:00 -
[119] - Quote
No, stop crying.
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2012.04.22 17:59:00 -
[120] - Quote
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:lol 7 votes yes vs 88 votes no
I guess eve posters could decipher your posts alright
wonder how long till the trolls jump in and troll poast yesses just to troll it
but the ratio says something towards that "everyone likes wtz" idea doesnt it?
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
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