I know I am the minority on this, and I hate to complain, but as much as a 'concentration in Space stuffs' is great for EVE Online (a spaceship oriented game) I was one of the (I suppose few?) players who were really excited for the WIS stuff. I figured when the game was refocused on the FIS content that the WIS content would still be slow trickle.

I see that this Inferno release is expanding on the CAC and possibly vanity store. I'm wondering if the WIS content is still being developed as I was very interested in:

- The booster/drug trade in bars/social rooms.
- Social minigames for when I don't have it in me to grind another Caldari mission or am waiting for a fleet to be organized through my corp/alliance.
- Space barbie.

I know while I may have been excited for these features, and may have been one of the few, was anyone else looking forward to this? And if a Dev is watching, is any of this still on the table? Does that table have a person around it by chance?

So... CCP,
Do you (will you ever) give a squat about not pew-pew players in EVE???
Industry and mining is on life support and you don't give a squat about players that like that part of game.
How much more indy ppl need to leave eve until you throw us a bone?
EVE needs at least one BIG Industry and Mining expansion.

You are building a roof without a foundations.

There is a dev blog coming tomorrow that touches on the future of avatar based gameplay, and we would appreciate a re-post of your questions tomorrow in that thread

You mean the several expansions in a row that focused around non combat - like the PI expansion, the inclusion of a salvaging boat in the noctis, the exploration boat in the Echelon, the wormholes where u have safer nullsec ores and sleepers to kill and harvest for production.

PVP hasnt exactly been expanded on that much in recent years - especially considering the focus of EVE is fight and conquer.

CCP already said youre not getting a beter miner than a Hulk, you have industrials, freighters, jump freighters, industrial capital ship (Rorq), and a hisec mini capital ship (Orca).

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That being said, what kind of new content related to industry are you considering?



That sounds great, and I will be there, thanks for quick response!

So, for one that does not participate in any form of ship pew-pew with other players whatsoever, does 'Inferno' holds any new content at all?

EDIT: I mean something with actual depth and interactive content; new pretty graphics does not count.

So... CCP,
Do you (will you ever) give a squat about not pew-pew players in EVE???
Industry and mining is on life support and you don't give a squat about players that like that part of game.
How much more indy ppl need to leave eve until you throw us a bone?
EVE needs at least one BIG Industry and Mining expansion.

You are building a roof without a foundations.

There is a dev blog coming tomorrow that touches on the future of avatar based gameplay, and we would appreciate a re-post of your questions tomorrow in that thread

I understand the importance of industry, and I too would like to see some improvements in that area. What I don't understand is playing a space game with other people and not wanting to fight other people. If you want to be an awesome industry leader with absurd piles of money, fighting only fights you can win, all with relative ease, go play one of the X-universe games or something.

In the real world, the people at the heads of industry are some of the most powerful in the world. However, the vast majority of people actually doing the production have lousy lives, lousy professions, are walked all over by the more powerful. In a game that tries (and does a good job) to make a simulated universe, that's how it's going to be, and to change that would break the system. Unlike the real world, however, you have the option of, with little consequence, going to the house of your enemy and shooting him in the face. Why so many people choose not to, I don't understand.

So, for one that does not participate in any form of ship pew-pew with other players whatsoever, does 'Inferno' holds any new content at all?

EDIT: I mean something with actual depth and interactive content; new pretty graphics does not count.

I noticed that while updates to Wardecs and FW are mentioned, nothing was said about the iteration to the Sov system. Is there any plans in place to take a look at and/or tweak Sov for Inferno, or is the previously discussed iterations on it going to be so drastic that they require more time to develop? The iterations or concepts I'm most interested in were moving towards a more usage dependent Sov system, smallholding, and small(er) scale Sov warfare usefulness. Any new information that can be shared on these subjects? Or at least an indication of when in the current development timeline they are intended to be looked at?

All the threads concerning changing mining to a more active style of mining have always been swarmed by the mining masses who mine while watching TV and movies or whatever. CCP wont ever change mining as it would result in another ***** fest in jita where they will do something ******** like shooting a statue ... and people will quit, etc. We've all seen the EVE Community is incapable of changing whether its for the good or not.

As for S&I like research and stuff, havent they made it easier in the last few months? Ive been on break from EVE since this past summer (still had active accounts) and havent done anything really of note to notice.

Instead of just saying 'Go read F&I' why dont you give a summary of a real suggestion (concrete) here where devs are obviously watching. I had a dev reply to me almost instantly after my post.

Edit: And CCP said something that they dropped comet/meteor mining due to issues with having solar system wide moving objects - keeping players speed with them, etc. That was a long time ago though, ill try googling the info in a few hours.

Guys,

keep in mind that there are paths in eve that you may chose, the Military is just one of them, and most of the players that join eve don't goes to PVP area and end up stopping playing, that is why there are more PVP players then Industrials

Confirming that no industrialist play Eve, and no-one is doing industry because they've all left. picardfacepalm.jpg

Industry is alive and kicking, just look at the quantity of stuff available in trade hubs. There isn't a shortage of anything that players manufacture (and people want to buy).

As for the expansion, looking forward to seeing what CCP will come out with. The wardec system and FW are in desperate need of an overhaul, not to mention the 0.0 sov system, and many things need balancing. Less teasing more info please.

True true, there was a missing word over there, The Industry is live and kicking because of the OLD players. It is realy hard to find new players buying a BPOs and having some sort of success trying to find a place in the market....

There is a dev blog coming tomorrow that touches on the future of avatar based gameplay, and we would appreciate a re-post of your questions tomorrow in that thread

There is a dev blog coming tomorrow that touches on the future of avatar based gameplay, and we would appreciate a re-post of your questions tomorrow in that thread