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Rook Highwind
United Oligopoly of Tea Traders
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Posted - 2008.03.26 21:47:00 -
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Hats off to the OP, whoever he is. For he has managed to get 7 pages of responses to the most obvious and, frankly, one of the most basic pieces of flamebait I've ever seen. I salute you, Ethnix.
Or, more likely, Impostor. If not, then stop being so uptight and learn to laugh. I mean, come on, this is the -ing GOONS we're talking about here. Is anyone going to take anything they say (if not do) seriously in a million years? Hands? No-one?
I thought not. If you take offense at their actions, gather some like-minded people and launch a counter strike. And make sure to film the ensuing bloodbath. 
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Agnumari Bearn
Confirmed for Brawl
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Posted - 2008.03.26 21:57:00 -
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To the op,
Karttoon is just as much of a holy prophet as Muhammad, at least he hasn't murdered people in real life who didn't believe that he was the last chosen messenger of God. Ever wondered what happened to the Jewish tribes in the Arabian peninsula or whether Islam would exist today if Christian and Jewish people hadn't gone there?
If I deeply hurt your feelings writing this I'm sorry, but your post is just asking for this, and this IS an mmo, where religions of all kinds are constantly made fun of. But you might as well be some trolling alt.
Peace
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Tobin Shalim
Vulcan Foundry
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.03.26 22:02:00 -
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how is Jihadswarm misrepresenting Islam?
-how many suicide bombers in the world are Islam? (hint: all)
-how many suicide bombers in the world AREN'T Islam (hint: none)
-which religion has decreed killing those that aren't Islam?
-which religion has been beheading people that have done no wrong against it?
-which religion in the Quran has stated that it's a Muslim's duty to kill all infidels?
yea. i don't think they're misrepresenting it at all. if anything, they got it straight on the money. why don't you worry about fixing up the problems your religion has and is causing before you come whine on a messageboard for internet spaceships?
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.03.26 22:02:00 -
[184]
Edited by: Angelonico on 26/03/2008 22:03:10
You do realize all these whiny *****y little threads... all your tears... all your crying.
It's why they're doing it.
Suck it up and deal with it or leave the game. Period.
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.03.26 22:03:00 -
[185]
Oh, can I have your stuff while you're at it?
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.03.26 22:07:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 26/03/2008 22:07:32
 Originally by: Tobin Shalim
how is Jihadswarm misrepresenting Islam?
-how many suicide bombers in the world are Islam? (hint: all)
-how many suicide bombers in the world AREN'T Islam (hint: none)
-which religion has decreed killing those that aren't Islam?
-which religion has been beheading people that have done no wrong against it?
-which religion in the Quran has stated that it's a Muslim's duty to kill all infidels?
yea. i don't think they're misrepresenting it at all. if anything, they got it straight on the money. why don't you worry about fixing up the problems your religion has and is causing before you come whine on a messageboard for internet spaceships?
I had a detailed post typed up but the quoted post is too idiotic to have been serious IMO. Kudos to me for finally not biting the flame bait.
http://www.themercury.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=285&fArticleId=158307
But check out that link anyway just in case, and locate follow-up information on your own time.
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Tobin Shalim
Vulcan Foundry
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.03.26 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 26/03/2008 22:07:32
Originally by: Tobin Shalim
how is Jihadswarm misrepresenting Islam?
-how many suicide bombers in the world are Islam? (hint: all)
-how many suicide bombers in the world AREN'T Islam (hint: none)
-which religion has decreed killing those that aren't Islam?
-which religion has been beheading people that have done no wrong against it?
-which religion in the Quran has stated that it's a Muslim's duty to kill all infidels?
yea. i don't think they're misrepresenting it at all. if anything, they got it straight on the money. why don't you worry about fixing up the problems your religion has and is causing before you come whine on a messageboard for internet spaceships?
I had a detailed post typed up but the quoted post is too idiotic to have been serious IMO. Kudos to me for finally not biting the flame bait.
http://www.themercury.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=285&fArticleId=158307
But check out that link anyway just in case, and locate follow-up information on your own time.
it was about as serious as the OP's.
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VinkNut
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.26 22:10:00 -
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this is the greatest thread ever to appear on these very forums.
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Constance Noring
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.26 22:13:00 -
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Why is it that religious people get so offended on behalf of their deity? Don't you trust your god to sort it out after the offenders die? But it's not really about that, is it? It's all about you wanting revenge, because someone ridiculed your fairytale.
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Von Ulrich
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.26 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Constance Noring
Why is it that religious people get so offended on behalf of their deity? Don't you trust your god to sort it out after the offenders die? But it's not really about that, is it? It's all about you wanting revenge, because someone ridiculed your fairytale.
I want not revenge you Infidel, but I do want the rivers to flow with the blood of the non-believers !
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Cookie
Snakeoil Industries Ltd.
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Posted - 2008.03.26 22:16:00 -
[191]
WTS Crusaders at...
..oh wait, wrong forum 
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.03.26 22:20:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Tobin Shalim
it was about as serious as the OP's.
Oh then nevermind, sorry.
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Thorradin
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.26 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun
Noting myself as an aethist beforehand, I do like Islam more than Christianity simply because it teaches better morals.
Such as?
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IamAcontractALT
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.26 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: IamAcontractALT on 26/03/2008 22:32:00
Originally by: Tobin Shalim
how is Jihadswarm misrepresenting Islam?
-how many suicide bombers in the world are Islam? (hint: all)
-how many suicide bombers in the world AREN'T Islam (hint: none)
-which religion has decreed killing those that aren't Islam?
-which religion has been beheading people that have done no wrong against it?
-which religion in the Quran has stated that it's a Muslim's duty to kill all infidels?
You know, the vast majority of Suicide Bombers are done by non-muslims. Over the past 100 years or so, the biggist victims of terrorism have been muslims as well. I guess all these ad hominem work quite well after all. As to your questions of which relion that decrees killing un-islam people, beheading innocents or even killing infidels, its not even allowed for muslims to do so unless its in self defence. That includes war, so a muslim cannot attack first in a war until they are attacked. Neither can a Christian or a Jew.
Pretty intresting stuff if you ignore the propoganda. I strongly reccomend you read stuff written by western authors prior to WW2 which was before the whole bais began. Napolion hill whote a excellent peice on Islam in one of his books.
Most of what you see now on TV is manufactued. Even back in the days of Salvery the printed media would make slaves who wanted freedom to appear as the most evil criminals.
Anyhow, I strongly reccomend you read stuff that is actually real.
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Incidence
Infinite Development Consortium
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Posted - 2008.03.26 22:34:00 -
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CCP, whatever you do, do not bend to the demands of such easily insulted ego-sensitive players as the creator of this thread.
Perhaps the website makes fun of a religion, Goonswarm have always been a vocal bunch lacking political correctness - but by all means let them be. There is a difference between being anti-religious/ethnic/whatever and making fun or distorting such a subject.
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.03.26 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 26/03/2008 23:31:52
Originally by: IamAcontractALT
You know, the vast majority of Suicide Bombers are done by non-muslims. Over the past 100 years or so, the biggist victims of terrorism have been muslims as well. I guess all these ad hominem work quite well after all. As to your questions of which relion that decrees killing un-islam people, beheading innocents or even killing infidels, its not even allowed for muslims to do so unless its in self defence. That includes war, so a muslim cannot attack first in a war until they are attacked. Neither can a Christian or a Jew.
Pretty intresting stuff if you ignore the propoganda. I strongly reccomend you read stuff written by western authors prior to WW2 which was before the whole bais began. Napolion hill whote a excellent peice on Islam in one of his books.
Most of what you see now on TV is manufactued. Even back in the days of Salvery the printed media would make slaves who wanted freedom to appear as the most evil criminals.
edit: fixing my last clumsy post.
The media issue is separate and the post-WWII date for the bias is questionable, but the rest of that stuff is good info.
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Billy Sastard
Life. Universe. Everything.
Rejuvenate
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Posted - 2008.03.26 23:35:00 -
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I vote that this farce of a thread be locked or even deleted. From the original post on through all of the replies, this thread has just been one big annoyance. I like my imaginary spaceships without theological discussion mixed in. 
Religious discussion + Internet = BAD
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.26 23:47:00 -
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This thread needs more goons
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duckmonster
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.26 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Tobin Shalim
how is Jihadswarm misrepresenting Islam?
-how many suicide bombers in the world are Islam? (hint: all)
FAIL. The practice was first started in the 1400's by a Danish guy. Its currently widely used by muslim and christian palestinians, with limited use by the athiest Tamil Tigers.
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-which religion has decreed killing those that aren't Islam?
Islam has a prohibition against forced conversion, and only permits killing a non muslim if in self defense.
But for reference, go read Leviticus. Yeah, stoning to death people who eat shellfish is one of christianitys nuttier commands
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-which religion has been beheading people that have done no wrong against it?
None of them. But man you should of seem what Ivan Millat did over in Australias East coast!
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-which religion in the Quran has stated that it's a Muslim's duty to kill all infidels?
The Quran does not say that. I've read it.
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yea. i don't think they're misrepresenting it at all. if anything, they got it straight on the money. why don't you worry about fixing up the problems your religion has and is causing before you come whine on a messageboard for internet spaceships?
Hey, now shut the hell up! Jihadswarm is a joke designed to mock people like you and your misconceptions. Get it into your racist skull *******.
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Larno
Deadly Addiction
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.03.26 23:58:00 -
[200]
Jihad is an arabic word meaning strive or struggle, it is possible to use it in a non-religious manner. The Jihadswarm website, which may be offensive, is out of game and not CCP's problem.
You lose.
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duckmonster
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.27 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Billy Sastard
I vote that this farce of a thread be locked or even deleted. From the original post on through all of the replies, this thread has just been one big annoyance. I like my imaginary spaceships without theological discussion mixed in.
Religious discussion + Internet = BAD
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Quelque Chose
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.27 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Billy Sastard
I vote that this farce of a thread be locked or even deleted. From the original post on through all of the replies, this thread has just been one big annoyance. I like my imaginary spaceships without theological discussion mixed in.
Religious discussion + Internet = BAD
Be sure and thank the nice goons for that. 
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Vulchev
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.27 00:05:00 -
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You guys do realise that making a big thing about this is just going to give the Goons more kicks, right? I don't give a toss about Islamic ideology, it's GOON ideology to want as much attention and lulz as they can get. And everyone that replies in this thread (me included, mea culpa) is just playing into their hands.
And as for whoever mentioned the cartoons - I think they missed the point. The IDEA of that particular cartoon was to demonstrate what the fanatics are doing to the image of Islam in the wider world; that now, when people think of Islam, it is synonymous with the threat of violence. It is critical of FANATICS, not of MUSLIMS.
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ghard1
EFIALITIS EPIREAZO
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 00:50:00 -
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I dont think the goons and most of the people here understand what the real problem is it is the fact that people who do not believe in the said religeon (maby some do but then they must not realy care about it tbh) are using it to make fun of it/other people and as said previousaly if you hate religeous people coming and complaining about this sort of thing then the easy answer is to not start using arguments/ideas/product of that religeon infact if you dont believe ignore it completley rather thank poking fun at it wars have been started because of this 'type' of argument.
also i am not a muslim i am a christian and i still dislike goonswarms disregard for the muslim faith.
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Siriyana
Astrum Contract Services Group
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Posted - 2008.03.27 01:10:00 -
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I have to disagree with the OP.
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a. Organizes or participates in a corporation or group that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-***, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies.
They are not anti-ethnic, anti-religious, or racist. The prefix "anti" means "against". They are certainly not "against" religion. They are not advocating the destruction of Islam, or any other religion.
They are parodying and using concepts that could be construed as mis-representative, but in the end, that isn't anti-religious. Hell, there's thousands of different "versions" of judaic religions in each major branch of judaism (Jewish faith, Muslim faith and Christian faith). There are different sects that believe different things. I think you would have to be pressed to "prove" that Jihadswarm don't actually believe that what they are following is "their religion", and then prove that the statements being made (in game, you can't judge things on out-of-game content) are anti-religious, or specifically against religion.
Maybe I'm just too old and crotchety and think everyone should be able to say whatever they want. If you don't wanna hear it, plug your ears.
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Hegbard
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.27 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tobin Shalim
how is Jihadswarm misrepresenting Islam?
-how many suicide bombers in the world are Islam? (hint: all)
-how many suicide bombers in the world AREN'T Islam (hint: none)
Get your facts straight. Until before the current war in Iraq, the suicide bombing league was completly dominated by the Tamil Tigers, which is a secular, communist, organization made up mostly by hindus.
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Von Ulrich
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.27 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Hegbard
Get your facts straight. Until before the current war in Iraq, the suicide bombing league was completly dominated by the Tamil Tigers, which is a secular, communist, organization made up mostly by hindus.
Stone the Hindus !!!
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mishkof
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.27 01:47:00 -
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I expect to never see a thread making fun of the wow communituy on this board ever again.
Now where is that popcorn...
I own a T2 BPO and Capital alt, therefor all of my views will be pro-Capital Alt/T2 BPO orientated. Please pick one of the following settings for your response.
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Lord Roshan
Galactic Confederation
ICARUS Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: jackie sparrow
CCP does not control contents on other people's website. The fact that the Jihadswarm website is a website that the killmails are being uploaded to does not mean that the people who partake in the Jihadswarm kilings have anything against muslims...
GoonSwarm quoted the same things on the site, in Local Chat in EVE, a numbers of the members. Sounded pretty much like a mockery to me. I'm not Muslim, Nor do I have anything to do with the religion. However, CCP rules are Clear, And GoonSwarm broke the Rules.
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Jawas
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.03.27 01:52:00 -
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I have played this game for 3 years and have neither the time or the inclination to go into 0.0 for many reasons. I play in highsec mostly with occasional forays into lowsec for mining and to pick up bits occasionally. I am neither rich nor do I particularly want to be, I can buy most of what I need and if I can't, then so be it, I just make do with what I have.
Because I don't have time to play in a 0.0 alliance, I would not have time to speak for the council. Administration of this type is what led me to close my corp since I was spending more of my online time doing corp administrative chores than actually playing Eve.
Anyone taking this role would have to have plenty of time on their hands because a lot of their time would be spent doing the council admin. In this respect, it would probably suit someone who is already in 0.0 and spends a lot of time on their PC playing Eve.
As to the OPs reasoning that a lot of highsec issues will not be represented, after 3 years of playing this game, you come to accept that as a fact of Eve life. During my time, I have seen Empire go downhill while all the shiny new toys are created mostly for 0.0. Gone are the days when you could find an empty Material Research slot, gone are the days of a decent yield from highsec roids, gone are the days of making any real profit in highsec any more.
With all the nerfing in the last few patches, gone are the days of seeing ships with varied loadouts. Now you look at a ship and can practically know how it will be fitted.
I simply play for a bit of fun now since most of the variation of eve has long since vanished, most of the ways of making any real isk are either exploited to the hilt or nerfed out of existence. This game has become a shadow of it's former glory bit alas, still one of the best space simulation games around which shows how bad the competition is at present.
However, lag and stupidity from the likes of Goonswarm are killing it off bit by bit and so much nerfing is laying the final blow.
But for how much longer?
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