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Jisel School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.27 11:30:00 - [241] Originally by: UrMommy all the jibberish aside i'd like to know CCP according to your rules if one attacks in empire it is an exploit if they too do not get their ship destroyed so if the web page is correct there should be equal losses to equal kills or are goons just fluffing there own nest ???????????????? the goons might not be posting their losses. no honour tbqh no honour.
Storwin Winters Amistad Annihilate Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.03.27 11:32:00 - [242] Edited by: Storwin Winters on 27/03/2008 11:35:09 Originally by: Jisel isn't islam that religion that stones raped women to death and kills people over cartoons? religion of peace lol <3 jihadswarm No you have seen or heard the wrong things m8. There is no something like that. Those things you mention happens in IRAN. IMO iran is a country who stays alot behind in culture. But killing a raped women is bad and has nothing to do with islam, it has to be with the culture. But im my self muslim, does this mean i have to kill jihadswarm? No. Peoples like Bin laden, are no muslims in my opinion, they are human killers. Our book says dont kill anyone even its your biggest enemy. But like i said, peoples show those things in the wrong ways. /signed
Inconstant Moon Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.03.27 11:34:00 - [243] Is it a public holiday in Iceland or something? Just wondering at the apparent lack of forum moderation this week. Oh, this is a great thread. But only bad things will come of it.
Cipher7 Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.03.27 11:41:00 - [244] Yeah you're right, Jihadswarm probably is defamatory to Islam. We can have characatures about a pedophile Jesus or a money-hungry Moses, but Mohammed is going too far? What makes Islam the special case? Why are you immune to ridicule if the rest of us aren't? Western freedom is built upon the principle that nothing and nobody is sacred, that you CAN make fun of Buddha, Mohammed, Jesus, 9/11, Jews, Islam or anything else you damn well please. Why is this so important? Because it is proof that we as humans can discuss ANYTHING, that no subject is taboo, that no idea is too far out. I generally like Islam. I generally have a positive view of it, or rather, I have a positive view of MY interpretation of Islam, you see I've read the Koran and I think most of you don't understand your own religion. Freedom is not negotiable. We are not ASKING you if its allowed to defame Mohammed. We are TELLING you its allowed. We are not ASKING you if its allowed to defame Islam. We are TELLING you its allowed. We're not asking your permission to be free. We're telling you we are.
Jisel School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.27 11:43:00 - [245] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Edited by: Roxanna Kell on 27/03/2008 11:17:16 Originally by: Jisel isn't islam that religion that stones raped women to death and kills people over cartoons? religion of peace lol <3 jihadswarm Originally by: Jisel isn't islam that religion that stones raped women to death and kills people over cartoons? religion of peace lol <3 jihadswarm Wise up, Its sharia, and its what discusts me about islam, the religion i was born in. and the only country that practices such barbaric ways is iran&uaE. Killing people over cartoons, well i get ****ed off on that as well, i dont see why anyone should conform to our ways, they frankly have no responsibilities. But on the name of peace, there shall be tolerence. therfore if people want to make fun of a religion, get their consent especially if you have that religion residing in your own country. the idiots who sent out death threaths are idiots, and if islam had a papacy system, they would ve excommunicated fanatic idiots who want to suicide for an easy way to heaven, ((complicated)) sorry i was being flippant, i was going to put forth a somewhat more intelligent few points but then realised this is the internet and i stopped being srs back in 2000.
IamAcontractALT Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.03.27 11:48:00 - [246] Originally by: Jisel isn't islam that religion that stones raped women to death and kills people over cartoons? religion of peace lol <3 jihadswarm I think you are looking at The Christian Crusades, which were very unchristian. Muslims belive in Jesus, Moses, Noah etc. Basically all it boils down to is that Judism beleives upto Moses, Christanity Belives in Jesus being part of the trinity of god (i.e Son of god) and Muslims beleive in Jesus/Noah/Moses etc but also in Mohammed's message of worshiping god (the word god in arbic is Allah) insted of worshiping prophets. As for blasphony, laws already exist to prevent people taking the mickey. For example, if I was to make a offensive cartoon your of mother, I can be fined or Jailed. In Denmark, the who thing was not about the cartoons themselves, but the favortism. If the same cartoons were made with a Jewish person, then the cantoonist would have been imprisioned. That was the basis of it and the media relised that it would sell more newspapers to make a fuss over cartoons. According to the Quran But they uttered blasphemy . . . if they repent, it will be best for them, but if they turn back, Allah will punish them." [Qur'an 9:47] According to the Torah Leviticus 24:16 states that those who speak blasphemy "shall surely be put to death" According to the Bible "The man that curseth His God, shall bear his sin: And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, dying let him die: all the multitude shall stone him, whether he be a native or a stranger. He that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, dying let him die" (Leviticus 24:15-16) Anyhow point is people need more education and stop beliving 100% everthing they read in the media. None of the Noah/Moses/Abraham baised religions such as Judism, Islam or Christanity are murderous. Its the followers that are human. And humans have a habbit of being doing the wrong things.
Jisel School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.27 11:51:00 - [247] Originally by: Storwin Winters Edited by: Storwin Winters on 27/03/2008 11:35:09 Originally by: Jisel isn't islam that religion that stones raped women to death and kills people over cartoons? religion of peace lol <3 jihadswarm No you have seen or heard the wrong things m8. There is no something like that. Those things you mention happens in IRAN. IMO iran is a country who stays alot behind in culture. But killing a raped women is bad and has nothing to do with islam, it has to be with the culture. But im my self muslim, does this mean i have to kill jihadswarm? No. Peoples like Bin laden, are no muslims in my opinion, they are human killers. Our book says dont kill anyone even its your biggest enemy. But like i said, peoples show those things in the wrong ways. /signed heh don't worry i was being overly flippant, i don't blame islam for anything, it's pretty clear from my cosy home in england that over in those countries (iran, SA, ua, etc); politics, fear, relgion, rich powerhungry men, and a whole varity of other things have become mixed up and well to call that islam is like concluding that as guns are made from metal that all metal is used for killing people.
IamAcontractALT Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.03.27 11:56:00 - [248] Originally by: Cipher7 We can have characatures about a pedophile Jesus or a money-hungry Moses, but Mohammed is going too far? What makes Islam the special case? Ever since Judism and Christanity used symbology for sale, they gave up the right to protect. You can buy Jesus collectables from many religious places. But you cannot buy any Mohammed items because Muslims are not allowed to put any symbol or statue or painting to god, and are forbiddon from worshiping any of gods prophets including Jesus. Hence why Muslim art from the olden times is baised upon mathamatical and factorial designs rather than statues and paintins of naked religious figures. So while you can buy the Jesus painting and the Jesus clock, you will never find pictures of God or Jesus or Noah etc in Islam. Only texts telling but never a picture or trinket. Islam never put up its iconography for sale, so its not the same. Again, just read up to find out on stuff. lack of education shows in your post.
Digital Solaris Perkone	Posted - 2008.03.27 11:56:00 - [249] I am probably going to step on some people' toes and get reported, but this thread is the bomb.
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Reavers.	Posted - 2008.03.27 11:58:00 - [250] Originally by: Cipher7 What makes Islam the special case? Because out of all major religions, they are youngest. So we much wiser and older ones much be patient and threat them like kids. Beside, early muslims was scienctific people and good people. Now they are in their dark ages, where christianity was in middle ages doing crusader against other religions. We just have to tolerate immature people of Islamn. "The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of ~~gold~~crap"

Jolliejoe Quad Tech Industries	Posted - 2008.03.27 12:00:00 - [251] Nice that the bogus GM's that control these forums allow these sorts of discussions on a game forum. Nice job guys.
Digital Solaris Perkone	Posted - 2008.03.27 12:00:00 - [252] Originally by: Kuolematon Originally by: Cipher7 What makes Islam the special case? Because out of all major religions, they are youngest. So we much wiser and older ones much be patient and threat them like kids. Beside, early muslims was scienctific people and good people. Now they are in their dark ages, where christianity was in middle ages doing crusader against other religions. We just have to tolerate immature people of Islamn. Shouldn't we, the rational thinkers of the world, treat all religions the same then? Or are you just advocating your own as a tolerant and benign?
Declan Intaki JOMON Corp	Posted - 2008.03.27 12:00:00 - [253] If anything this thread just demonstrates nicely that religion is one thing above all else: Divisive
Vagablonde Ouruboros Trading	Posted - 2008.03.27 12:08:00 - [254] an internet forum owned by a games company that can happily set it's own rules is not really the place to be talking about freedom of speech and religion. that said, some proponents of islam must be joking if they think islam is more worthy of respect, nay should be immune from having the ** ripped out of it, than chistianity, in the far more advanced and civilised western nations . so welcome to the west o/ it's not iran, or saudia arabia, or whatever pathetic backwards african nation that imprisions teachers, we got freedom of speech and god damn we've earn't it**. ________________ the way back home is always long, but if you're close to me i'm holding on.
Tyrenical Singularity. Talon Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 12:11:00 - [255] Originally by: Cipher7 Yeah you're right, Jihadswarm probably is defamatory to Islam. We can have characatures about a pedophile Jesus or a money-hungry Moses, but Mohammed is going too far? What makes Islam the special case? Why are you immune to ridicule if the rest of us aren't? Western freedom is built upon the principle that nothing and nobody is sacred, that you CAN make fun of Buddha, Mohammed, Jesus, 9/11, Jews, Islam or anything else you damn well please. Why is this so important? Because it is proof that we as humans can discuss ANYTHING, that no subject is taboo, that no idea is too far out. I generally like Islam. I generally have a positive view of it, or rather, I have a positive view of MY interpretation of Islam, you see I've read the Koran and I think most of you don't understand your own religion. Freedom is not negotiable. We are not ASKING you if its allowed to defame Mohammed. We are TELLING you its allowed. We are not ASKING you if its allowed to defame Islam. We are TELLING you its allowed. We're not asking your permission to be free. We're telling you we are. ^^ This
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Reavers.	Posted - 2008.03.27 12:11:00 - [256] Originally by: Vagablonde so welcome to the west o/ it's not iran, or saudia arabia, or whatever pathetic backwards african nation that imprisions teachers, we got freedom of speech and god damn *we've earn't it. +1 Totally! "The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of ~~gold~~crap"*
Tyrenical Singularity. Talon Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 12:12:00 - [257] Originally by: Kuolematon Originally by: Cipher7 What makes Islam the special case? Because out of all major religions, they are youngest. So we much wiser and older ones much be patient and threat them like kids. Beside, early muslims was scienctific people and good people. Now they are in their dark ages, where christianity was in middle ages doing crusader against other religions. We just have to tolerate immature people of Islamn. Tolerate them with the Giving end of a JDAM.
IamAcontractALT Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.03.27 12:23:00 - [258] Edited by: IamAcontractALT on 27/03/2008 12:27:02 Edited by: IamAcontractALT on 27/03/2008 12:24:56 Originally by: Vagablonde so welcome to the west o/ it's not iran, or saudia arabia, or whatever pathetic backwards african nation that imprisions teachers, we got freedom of speech and god damn *we've earn't it*. Such anti religios talk would get you put in Jail Austria (Articles 188, 189 of the penal code) Denmark (Paragraph 140 of the penal code). Finland (Section 10 of chapter 17 of the penal code) Germany (Article 166 of the penal code) Iceland (dont have the Article offhand) The Netherlands (Article 147 of the penal code) New Zealand (Section 123 of the Crimes Act 1961) Spain (Article 525 of the penal code) Switzerland (Article 261 of the penal code) USA (Chapter 272 of the Massachusetts, Section 36) So much for freedom. No country has any real freedom. You are being told you have freedom to stop you rebeling against the ruling party. Thats how Media Works. Try to avoid conscription into forign wars? Not going to happen unless you are rich or powerful or damm lucky. Again it is perception of freedom. You can be put away if you offend certain religions in the above countries for example.
Jitabug Salvage Junkies	Posted - 2008.03.27 12:30:00 - [259] Enough of these threads might eventually take the focus off the fact that Goonswarm failed to crush BoB, despite having the whole of the 0.0 alliances around to hold their*****s for them. Maybe.
Vagablonde Ouruboros Trading	Posted - 2008.03.27 12:32:00 - [260] Edited by: Vagablonde on 27/03/2008 12:34:43 Originally by: IamAcontractALT Edited by: IamAcontractALT on 27/03/2008 12:27:02 Edited by: IamAcontractALT on 27/03/2008 12:24:56 Originally by: Vagablonde so welcome to the west o/ it's not iran, or saudia arabia, or whatever pathetic backwards african nation that imprisions teachers, we got freedom of speech and god damn *we've earn't it. Such anti religios talk would get you put in Jail Austria (Articles 188, 189 of the penal code) Denmark (Paragraph 140 of the penal code). Finland (Section 10 of chapter 17 of the penal code) Germany (Article 166 of the penal code) Iceland (dont have the Article offhand) The Netherlands (Article 147 of the penal code) New Zealand (Section 123 of the Crimes Act 1961) Spain (Article 525 of the penal code) Switzerland (Article 261 of the penal code) USA (Chapter 272 of the Massachusetts, Section 36) So much for freedom. No country has any real freedom. You are being told you have freedom to stop you rebeling against the ruling party. Thats how Media Works. Try to avoid conscription into forign wars? Not going to happen unless you are rich or powerful or damm lucky. Again it is perception of freedom. You can be put away if you offend certain religions in the above countries for example. take your laughable* threats (nice wikipedia copy and pasting btw) and put them here points to large muscular structure at the top of legs oh and less of the freedom isn't real crap, sure I don't have the freedom to chop peoples heads off or stone them to death for being *** but then again I don't want such freedoms! ________________ the way back home is always long, but if you're close to me i'm holding on.

Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Reavers.	Posted - 2008.03.27 12:34:00 - [261] Beware, they might go postal on us "The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of ~~gold~~crap"
Vagablonde Ouruboros Trading	Posted - 2008.03.27 12:43:00 - [262] Originally by: Kuolematon Beware, they might go postal on us hahaha <3 the world needs more of that ________________ the way back home is always long, but if you're close to me i'm holding on.
Cipher7 Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.03.27 12:53:00 - [263] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Cipher7 Freedom is not negotiable. It is here chump. Glad I'm not where you are. Maybe you should fight for your rights. Just sayin.
Avon Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.27 12:55:00 - [264] Originally by: Cipher7 Originally by: Avon Originally by: Cipher7 Freedom is not negotiable. It is here chump. Glad I'm not where you are. Maybe you should fight for your rights. Just sayin. You are where I am. These forums. Freedom is not your right here. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Cipher7 Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.03.27 13:08:00 - [265] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Cipher7 Originally by: Avon Originally by: Cipher7 Freedom is not negotiable. It is here chump. Glad I'm not where you are. Maybe you should fight for your rights. Just sayin. You are where I am. These forums. Freedom is not your right here. CCP doesn't own the goonie website. And I think they have more common sense that to try to be a playground monitor for 200,000 subscribers. Are we adults or children? "Now now little Jimmy don't call Akmed a raghead thats not nice" You got a problem with little Jimmy? Go blow up his ship.
Shurikane Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2008.03.27 13:16:00 - [266] DICE hasn't banned Jihad Jeeps in Battlefield 2142. What makes ya think CCP will give a rat's ass about Jihadswarming in EVE?
KapnKaboom School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.27 14:21:00 - [267] Edited by: KapnKaboom on 27/03/2008 14:23:47 Originally by: Malar Last time i checked the goons werend a muslim organization and i seriously doubt that any religious leader would call a jihad over a computer game, at least a virtual one. But watch out if you draw a cartoon in a european newspaper... Bottom line, the world is full of religious nutcases and folks who will use them in satire. And yes, somehow, life still goes on. (or in other words, nobody cares)
Zarin University of Caille	Posted - 2008.03.27 14:54:00 - [268] Originally by: Winterblink Edited by: Winterblink on 26/03/2008 15:07:03 How are they anti-religious, again? Seems like free advertisement for your faith. Or do you have a reason to hide in the shadows...? Edit: also, this thread is blatant hate mongering. Sounds like a section 3.a to me. It would be free advertisement for their faith if their faith involved suiciding into a bunch of defenseless people that never did anything to them. I would wager that if that was all their faith was about we wouldn't have to worry about Iraq we would probably be more worried about our next door neighbour. So I'd say that it's probably not the case. Don't really care myself, but if there was genuine offense then it would be silly to ignore this when you look at how careful CCP are already with the forums being a tad overzealous on the language filter etc. Some consistency is desired.
The TX Earth Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.27 14:58:00 - [269] Originally by: Cipher7 "Now now little Jimmy don't call Akmed a raghead thats not nice" You got a problem with little Jimmy? Go blow up his ship. lol -------------------- CCP, please fix current issues before making new stuff: Are YOU A Happy Spaceman?
Zarin University of Caille	Posted - 2008.03.27 15:03:00 - [270] Originally by: Jisel isn't islam that religion that stones raped women to death and kills people over cartoons? religion of peace lol <3 jihadswarm Like christianity is the one that kills people and every other religion pretty much on the face of the planet has had terrible atrocities commited in its name. Of course if the religion itself was actually responsible and not just some idiots interpretation of it then good sensible people might actually object to it, instead of just the extremists on the 'other side' with their own quack religion. There are plenty of countries out there with ridiculous penalties for crimes, Saudia Arabia, Vietnam, USA etc. This is a game, people can be cruel to each other here, but any 'real life' politics should be kept a mile away, everyone comes here to escape the world, not to be reminded of it.



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