Pages: 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 7 8 9 10 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
An Anarchyyt
Battlestars GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:29:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Leferati the servers are in london so the act would cover this .
You sir, have shown that you know a lot about law, and I am sure know a ton about what it is you just posted, and international law.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
|
Von Ulrich
State War Academy
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:30:00 -
[122]
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Leferati the servers are in london so the act would cover this .
You sir, have shown that you know a lot about law, and I am sure know a ton about what it is you just posted, and international law.
lol
|
Zissou
Caldari Provisions
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:39:00 -
[123]
'Suicide' ganking has been ingame for a while and as a 'feature' of the game mechanics, I suppose that's fine.
A problem arises when players attach radical religious overtones to this feature, name themselves after quasi religious stereotypes and use ingame links to websites that project radical religious songs/terminology etc.
I'm not sure how CCP feels about these events, but I'm pretty sure it's only a matter of time before more vocal and less sympathetic elements of society (not connected to the mmorpg scene) become aware of whats happening and begin to voice their own opinions.
If I was CCP, I'd be very, very, pro-active at removing any radical religious references from the game - even if they are intended as harmless parody. It's not smart, clever or funny and it's certainly not enriching the game or projecting a positive image.
|
UGWidowmaker
Setenta Corp Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:41:00 -
[124]
Edited by: UGWidowmaker on 26/03/2008 18:43:07 please dont take your religion here
long live the freedom of speech..
OMFG
I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
|
Leferati
Mercantile Club Research
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:41:00 -
[125]
the dont need international law to go after the people making the comments they mearly have to stop the way they are doing it, which in this case is computer hardware located in london.
|
Von Ulrich
State War Academy
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:42:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Zissou 'Suicide' ganking has been ingame for a while and as a 'feature' of the game mechanics, I suppose that's fine.
A problem arises when players attach radical religious overtones to this feature, name themselves after quasi religious stereotypes and use ingame links to websites that project radical religious songs/terminology etc.
I'm not sure how CCP feels about these events, but I'm pretty sure it's only a matter of time before more vocal and less sympathetic elements of society (not connected to the mmorpg scene) become aware of whats happening and begin to voice their own opinions.
If I was CCP, I'd be very, very, pro-active at removing any radical religious references from the game - even if they are intended as harmless parody. It's not smart, clever or funny and it's certainly not enriching the game or projecting a positive image.
I don't really think CCP has much to fear economically from losing it's consumer base in Iran.
|
Securion Wolfheart
Not Like Most
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:44:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Zissou 'Suicide' ganking has been ingame for a while and as a 'feature' of the game mechanics, I suppose that's fine.
A problem arises when players attach radical religious overtones to this feature, name themselves after quasi religious stereotypes and use ingame links to websites that project radical religious songs/terminology etc.
I'm not sure how CCP feels about these events, but I'm pretty sure it's only a matter of time before more vocal and less sympathetic elements of society (not connected to the mmorpg scene) become aware of whats happening and begin to voice their own opinions.
If I was CCP, I'd be very, very, pro-active at removing any radical religious references from the game - even if they are intended as harmless parody. It's not smart, clever or funny and it's certainly not enriching the game or projecting a positive image.
So what your saying is that because of these nutcases, with their imaginary friends, the rest of humanity must adapt to their demands of respect for them?
Never.
The difference between a Pirate and an Anti-Pirate is that an Anti-Pirate fights ships fitted with guns... |
Dealth Striker
Striker Ltd
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:49:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Inconstant Moon I find the Goons' use of jihadist themes to be in particularly poor taste, especially as I believe the offense is intentional.
I totally agree. Also, I think it is bad taste that CCP puts up an article on the logon page discussing it :(
|
Talkuth Rel
Republic Military School
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:50:00 -
[129]
For anyone claiming the OP needs to leave RL out of the game, may I suggest that jihadswarm borught RL into the game, and the OP's intent is rather to remove it.
Do I think the swarm's actions are in bad taste? Yes. Is it bannable? Probably not.
If you want to claim the defense that they are roleplaying terrorists, I say great, let CCP facilitate their roleplaying. Let's make all self-proclaimed members of terrorist organizations shoot on sight for Concord.
|
Moon Kitten
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:52:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Talkuth Rel For anyone claiming the OP needs to leave RL out of the game, may I suggest that jihadswarm borught RL into the game, and the OP's intent is rather to remove it.
Do I think the swarm's actions are in bad taste? Yes. Is it bannable? Probably not.
If you want to claim the defense that they are roleplaying terrorists, I say great, let CCP facilitate their roleplaying. Let's make all self-proclaimed members of terrorist organizations shoot on sight for Concord.
How does Concord classify players as terrorists?
|
|
Tippia
School of Applied Knowledge
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:53:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Fuazzole The media/world freely makes mockery of all relegions, Evangelists are mad, Catholic priests are peado's, Jew's are money grabbers, why not Muslim? cause were afraid of making em angry?
Becuase the media/world does not have a EULA that forbids it
|
Inconstant Moon
Caldari Provisions
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:54:00 -
[132]
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Leferati the servers are in london so the act would cover this .
You sir, have shown that you know a lot about law, and I am sure know a ton about what it is you just posted, and international law.
The servers are in the UK and are therefore subject to UK law. However, I do not believe the Goons have done anything illegal, they just have extremely poor taste.
It could indeed be a PR disaster for CCP should anyone in the media care to make it so. But I doubt they will, after all, who in the real world gives a flying turd about Goons?
|
Moon Kitten
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:54:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Securion Wolfheart
Originally by: Zissou 'Suicide' ganking has been ingame for a while and as a 'feature' of the game mechanics, I suppose that's fine.
A problem arises when players attach radical religious overtones to this feature, name themselves after quasi religious stereotypes and use ingame links to websites that project radical religious songs/terminology etc.
I'm not sure how CCP feels about these events, but I'm pretty sure it's only a matter of time before more vocal and less sympathetic elements of society (not connected to the mmorpg scene) become aware of whats happening and begin to voice their own opinions.
If I was CCP, I'd be very, very, pro-active at removing any radical religious references from the game - even if they are intended as harmless parody. It's not smart, clever or funny and it's certainly not enriching the game or projecting a positive image.
So what your saying is that because of these nutcases, with their imaginary friends, the rest of humanity must adapt to their demands of respect for them?
Never.
Why stop there? Why should we respect anyone who uses violence? The fact that Concord condone wars in Empire makes me sick to the stomach.
|
Talkuth Rel
Republic Military School
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:54:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Moon Kitten
Originally by: Talkuth Rel For anyone claiming the OP needs to leave RL out of the game, may I suggest that jihadswarm borught RL into the game, and the OP's intent is rather to remove it.
Do I think the swarm's actions are in bad taste? Yes. Is it bannable? Probably not.
If you want to claim the defense that they are roleplaying terrorists, I say great, let CCP facilitate their roleplaying. Let's make all self-proclaimed members of terrorist organizations shoot on sight for Concord.
How does Concord classify players as terrorists?
As I said, self-proclaimed. By joining a group such as jihadswarm, they've declared themselves terrorists. The players make a big stink about being such terrorists both on the forums and in ingame chat, so the intentions of the group are clear.
|
Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge XIII Legio
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:55:00 -
[135]
Edited by: Omarvelous on 26/03/2008 18:55:48
Originally by: Sertan Deras
Originally by: Omarvelous
Get yourself a history book/newspaper - religious extremists committing acts of violence in their Religion's name occur regardless of religion.
I mean all I see in the news is how some priest molested a kid - do I make the presumption, Catholicism endorses molesting?
I see in the news how another black guy committed a crime - sure seems like 'their kind' are violent - perhaps black people endorse violence...
I knew this thread would spiral down into bigotry - thanks for proving it!
When people do idiotic things (blow themselves up, touch little boys, kick people out of their apartments with raised rent, burn people at the stake) they deserve to be laughed at and mocked, by everyone. That's not bigotry, that's checks and balances against extremist idiots like that ruling the roost.
And if Muslim's are so cute and fuzzy, where are the moderate Sheiks? Why aren't they speaking up more? Oh, that's right, because even Muhammad himself preached conversion by the sword. It's a religious tenant of Islam. Oops.
Man I was trying to be light hearted about this post but you clearly have no clue what you're talking about. I originally said that this jihadswarm thing shouldn't be offensive to Muslims because it isn't claiming anything about the real life religion - its a silly mockery of extremists.
As for your clueless post...
When people do idiotic things - anyone can make fun of them (I do so myself). The Darwin awards for example - I laugh at those people - I don't take a swiping generalization about that person's group and label it. When you group everyone under a label, under a stereotype - that's bigotry. I don't see a crime committed by a black guy and automatically assume their entire race is more prone to violence (bigots do). Nor do I make minstrel plays to mock black people based on what some individuals do.
Do you see what I'm saying about making sweeping generalizations about Muslims?
As for moderate sheiks - they're there, and they speak out about it.
Its just not exciting enough for the mainstream media to report on it.
The extremists of any group get all the media attention because they have a high shock factor - moderates calling for common sense is boring and doesn't sell.
THAT's why you don't see moderate's speaking out - they are you're just not seeing it on the news.
Conversion by the sword? Read up on Spain's history - it was ruled by Muslims for hundreds of years in a society tolerant of Jews and Christians - no forced conversions. Compare that to the Medieval Europe with Inquisitions that surrounded it.
Do I jump to the conclusion that Christianity is a violent religion with violence as a tenet because of what the crusades, and the Inquisition brought about? No - but I could using your myopic logic.
Your lack of education is stinking up this thread quite nicely. Oops __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
|
UGWidowmaker
Setenta Corp Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:55:00 -
[136]
damn i would love to showa cartoon drawing right now.. try see some fun instead of that dark bitter side.. OMFG
I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
|
Von Ulrich
State War Academy
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 18:57:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Talkuth Rel For anyone claiming the OP needs to leave RL out of the game, may I suggest that jihadswarm borught RL into the game, and the OP's intent is rather to remove it.
Do I think the swarm's actions are in bad taste? Yes. Is it bannable? Probably not.
If you want to claim the defense that they are roleplaying terrorists, I say great, let CCP facilitate their roleplaying. Let's make all self-proclaimed members of terrorist organizations shoot on sight for Concord.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighters. You insult all Islam by suggesting that Goons are roleplaying terrorists simply because they use "Jihad" in their definition. You sir are a bigot for thinking that any use of the term equates to terrorism.
|
Moon Kitten
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:00:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Inconstant Moon
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Leferati the servers are in london so the act would cover this .
You sir, have shown that you know a lot about law, and I am sure know a ton about what it is you just posted, and international law.
The servers are in the UK and are therefore subject to UK law. However, I do not believe the Goons have done anything illegal, they just have extremely poor taste.
It could indeed be a PR disaster for CCP should anyone in the media care to make it so. But I doubt they will, after all, who in the real world gives a flying turd about Goons?
Wouldn't you say that's it's extremely poor taste to kill human beings by podding their space capsule not to mention the destruction of property done by npc ships when they destroy player ships. It's outrageous.
|
Quelque Chose
University of Caille
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:01:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Omarvelous longwinded diatribe
Posts like this are just another reason why you shouldn't bring politics and religion to videogame town. Thanks goons. ______________________________
"Eve Online is a massively multiplayer game about trolling in outer space." |
Moon Kitten
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:02:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Talkuth Rel
Originally by: Moon Kitten
Originally by: Talkuth Rel For anyone claiming the OP needs to leave RL out of the game, may I suggest that jihadswarm borught RL into the game, and the OP's intent is rather to remove it.
Do I think the swarm's actions are in bad taste? Yes. Is it bannable? Probably not.
If you want to claim the defense that they are roleplaying terrorists, I say great, let CCP facilitate their roleplaying. Let's make all self-proclaimed members of terrorist organizations shoot on sight for Concord.
How does Concord classify players as terrorists?
As I said, self-proclaimed. By joining a group such as jihadswarm, they've declared themselves terrorists. The players make a big stink about being such terrorists both on the forums and in ingame chat, so the intentions of the group are clear.
So terrorists who do not proclaim themselves as such can just go about their business and keep terrorizing people? That's a gigantic double standard right there.
|
|
Moon Kitten
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:02:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Quelque Chose
Originally by: Omarvelous longwinded diatribe
Posts like this are just another reason why you shouldn't bring politics and religion to videogame town. Thanks goons.
If you ask me you shouldn't bring in violence either. Thanks CCP .
|
Quelque Chose
University of Caille
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:04:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Moon Kitten
Wouldn't you say that's it's extremely poor taste to kill human beings by podding their space capsule not to mention the destruction of property done by npc ships when they destroy player ships. It's outrageous.
Ain't it the truth? I get so sick of seeing that plastered all over the news every day, not to mention all the talking head editorialists braying over each other afterwards about it. I play video games to get away from all the outer space violence in real life, why do they have to crap all over my fun time with it? ______________________________
"Eve Online is a massively multiplayer game about trolling in outer space." |
Quelque Chose
University of Caille
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:10:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Moon Kitten
I have to agree. Why CCP made it possible to shoot other players or destroy their ships when people just want to relax and get away from the violence beats me. It would help a lot if they just removed all weapons from the game to be quite honest.
I know. Just the other day some maniac killed a family of four flying his spaceship drunk down my street and didn't even have the decency to offer a ransom.
Really these games are just teaching people how to shoot up their school with a rifter.
PS you're a moron. ______________________________
"Eve Online is a massively multiplayer game about trolling in outer space." |
Usagi Toshiro
Fringe Financial and Industries
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:10:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I'm a satanist and I am offended by the OP's religion. BAN HIM!!!
My sig speaks for this thread
Agnosticism ftw.
|
Zissou
Caldari Provisions
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:14:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Omarvelous I originally said that this jihadswarm thing shouldn't be offensive to Muslims because it isn't claiming anything about the real life religion - its a silly mockery of extremists.
Just as cartoons in a Dutch newspaper were attempting to add to a wider debate concerning criticism of Islam?
|
Fyrewyre
Havoc Inc
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:16:00 -
[146]
This has to be a joke.
Methinks someone got some gankage by a goon.
In before lock \o/ -------------------------------------------
"Never let anyone stop you having fun"
Mad Snoz, leeds |
Malar
HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:18:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Moon Kitten So terrorists who do not proclaim themselves as such can just go about their business and keep terrorizing people? That's a gigantic double standard right there.
Actually it is called terrorism because you fear them doing bad things to you. So terrorists are only a problem if they target you.
Sure we can debate the moral implications of picking civilian targets as part of waging war, but thats a different kind of discussion. Military in history has proven to be negligent of civilians more than enough times for this issue not to be that straightforward.
So as the guy said: someone's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Just as someone's conqueror is another man's liberator. Its all a matter of personal judgement and exactly thats why it should be banned from being discussed / mentioned on the boards. --------------------------------------------- *Comments in this post are mine and mine only* |
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:19:00 -
[148]
Can someone please declare a jihad on this stupid thread? ffs
|
Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge XIII Legio
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:20:00 -
[149]
Edited by: Omarvelous on 26/03/2008 19:21:31
Originally by: Zissou
Originally by: Omarvelous I originally said that this jihadswarm thing shouldn't be offensive to Muslims because it isn't claiming anything about the real life religion - its a silly mockery of extremists.
Just as cartoons in a Dutch newspaper were attempting to add to a wider debate concerning criticism of Islam?
I thought the reaction was stupid - if no one knew what the prophet looked like, what offense could you get from a cartoon. It can't be more offensive than cartoons on Jesus or any other religious icon. I can't care less about the jihadswarm thing, its goofy to me.
I just didn't care for some posts in this thread that grouped a billion people into 1 thing based on the actions of a tiny minority.
To be honest I'm getting too serious on a space ship forum - I'm done with this thread.
People can say whatever garbage they want - I don't have any interest in defending one group or another.
I'm going to go fly some computer pixels and hope they make your computer pixels flash blue! __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
|
IamAcontractALT
Science and Trade Institute
|
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:23:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Zissou Edited by: Zissou on 26/03/2008 19:17:14
Originally by: Omarvelous I originally said that this jihadswarm thing shouldn't be offensive to Muslims because it isn't claiming anything about the real life religion - its a silly mockery of extremists.
Just as cartoons in a Dutch newspaper were attempting to add to a wider debate concerning criticism of Islam?
There is a difference between taking the **** and freedom of expression. If the cartoons had a jewish person insted of a muslim person, under Dutch law, the cartoonist would be put in jail. This bias was seised upon by extreamists and the media made a circus to sell more newspapers.
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 7 8 9 10 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |