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Avon
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:06:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: An Anarchyyt
CCP has said numerous times that as long as CONCORD destroys the ship, there is no exploit, or grief, or anything.
Listen, I'm not trying to get in to an arguement over this, but there have also been plenty of times when they have made people stop attacks just for the sake it.
When asked for clarification on the policy the response was that there had to be a motive other than just wanting to see a pretty explosion.
The rules do not allow a roleplay motive (why?) such as a Jihad, but would allow an intention to effect mineral / ice prices as a valid reason.
I personally have nothing against the current situation, but it does seem to be a technical infringement of the rules.
I wouldn't want that to be used to get it stopped, but then is isn't my sensibilities being offended either.
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An Anarchyyt
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:10:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 26/03/2008 16:10:18
But the fact is it isn't. CCP aren't these people's parents, and nothing wrong has been done here. If someone wrote some pseudo-religious Amarr thing in Latin or in Hebrew should Christian and Jews be offended?
This really is just a case of whining for the sake of whining. I often wonder if these are the same people who get up and whine about video games that portray muslim extremism.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
XIII Legio
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Omarvelous
I doubt a Christian would be offended by someone claiming a holy trinity of Father, son and the holy rabbit. 
Blessed be the Holy Rabbit, for its tasty stew will nourish our souls
Mmmmm - think about it - the Easter Bunny makes a whole lot more sense in a religious context now!
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Tippia
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
If someone wrote some pseudo-religious Amarr thing in Latin or in Hebrew should Christian and Jews be offended?
No, because neither Latin nor Hebrew has anything to do with the Christian or Jewish religions.
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CallieMuchin
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:20:00 -
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Guys you are missing the most important thing here.
Celot is a dreamy hunk 
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Lateralus
The Order of Chivalry
Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:21:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Zwik
FACT
Jihadswarm is misrepresenting Islam. How do I know this? I know this because I am a Muslim. Yes, be afraid now.. 
Fact: You do not speak for all Muslims.
Fact: Some Muslims would violently oppose what you say, and have done. They have jihadswarm-esque suicide bombed enough people to show that you do NOT speak for all Muslims, you claiming to do so would probably put you on their short list. be afraid.
Originally by: Zwik
WHAT WILL YOU DO NOW, CCP ?
Jihadswarm's false statements and actions in EVE is detrimental to ISLAM.
Why? Because what they do is opposite of what ISLAM teaches.
They mis-use the name of Allah, they pervert the true meaning of Jihad, and make a mockery of all this.
Jihad is never holy war. The meaning of Jihad is "to strive, to struggle", and totally not "holy war".
Really? Are you sure of all that you say? Can you prove it? or is all this hearsay? Many muslims (including *****'s group) say you're wrong. Who's to say who's right and who's wrong about the *true* meaning of 'Jihad'? How can we bow to your request, simply because you play this video game, and they do not? (or perhaps they do *gasp*)
Originally by: Zwik
JihadSwarm is behaving like Al-Qaeda. The real terrorists. Not the behaviour of a true Muslim.
Again, don't Al-Qaeda claim to be Muslim? Don't they claim to be 'true muslims'? What makes you more correct than them in their views?
Originally by: Zwik
Peace,
A Muslim
So... are you really a Muslim, or a carebear alt really really angry at loosing his Hulk? How will we ever know? And should that presumption be a basis for a few hundred people being banned? Just because a character 'professed' to be a 'correct' Muslim, and denounced what other Muslims deem to be 'correct'?
A word of advice: Dont bring your real life into the game, it's a game for us all to enjoy - not a soapbox for your faith. If we start banning for religious rhetoric like this, it will never end, and you will eventually destroy our fun.
Having said all that, I'm very religous myself, however, I wouldn't dare bring it into a game, and demand people be banned for role playing. That's just as bad as attacking embassies over Karttoons.
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Jolliejoe
Quad Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:23:00 -
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oW Nice... now we have real life political crap entering the game... As if we don't game enough game crap politics already... :(
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Lateralus
The Order of Chivalry
Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:24:00 -
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hahaha I just realized CCP has bowed to the politics: O S A M A is a censored word rofl! maybe he will get his way with his bans.
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Quelque Chose
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
This really is just a case of whining for the sake of whining. I often wonder if these are the same people who get up and whine about video games that portray muslim extremism.
Naturally you're befuddled; you probably spend most of your time holed up at SA where what passes for "humor" is coming up with new ways to combine "jew," "******" and "***got" all day and patting yourselves on the back for how clever that is. 
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facepalm johnson
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:30:00 -
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Someone pass me my crayons, I feel a cartoon coming on.
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PR0PAGANDA
Raging Emo
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:30:00 -
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might want to watch out for this one. coming from a religon that has people who wanted to kill over some cartoon pics in a newpaper and kill a teacher over a teddy bears name.
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JonLuc McPew
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:36:00 -
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Quote:
Muslim faith doesn't endorse suicide bombing,
It doesnt?? They sure seem to do a sh*tload of it...
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Winterblink on 26/03/2008 16:38:11
Edit: ahh nm.
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Euriti
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:40:00 -
[74]
No
Not really
Now get off my internetz.
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Barzam
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: Barzam on 26/03/2008 16:43:29
Originally by: Quelque Chose
I think they should change the name of their thing to "Finalsolutionswarm" and spam "Juden 'Raus!" in local when they attack.
The propaganda would be a lot better that way. They could work in a bunch of stuff about rich, filthy carebears manipulating the market, controlling the banks, funding communism and despoiling the purity of the races: the Plague of Insterstellar Carebearery. That way they could claim to be "deporting" carebears to Minmatar space too. Not to mention the snazzy uniforms.
That would be fuggin hilarious I think. 
This guy nailed it IMO. If I saw this in-game I would be angry as ****, and I'm not even jewish, so I can imagine their upset with it. I just hate ****'s and racist crap with a vengeance.
So I can understand where OP is coming from. It's probably an insult to his whole way of life and traditions even though Jihad and playing an islam fundamentalist may seem pretty tame from a christian point of view.
Though, I don't mind all the suicide-ganking at all.
Edit: also as you can see the term for a member of the national socialistic party in 30's germany is a censored term here, and yet jihad etc are not. Interesting to say the least.
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Sertan Deras
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:46:00 -
[76]
Haha, wow. Sometimes I forget how thin skinned you pubbies are.
JihadSwarm is funny, entertaining and the kind of dark humor we need in the world today. We are poking fun at a religion that wanted to hang a school teacher because her class named a teddy bear Muhammad. Think about that for a second before you tell us how awesome Islam is and how Goons are making a mockery. I think Islam is plenty capable of making a mockery of itself, we are just laughing along with it.
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Avon
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:50:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Sertan Deras
Haha, wow. Sometimes I forget how thin skinned you pubbies are.
JihadSwarm is funny, entertaining and the kind of dark humor we need in the world today. We are poking fun at a religion that wanted to hang a school teacher because her class named a teddy bear Muhammad. Think about that for a second before you tell us how awesome Islam is and how Goons are making a mockery. I think Islam is plenty capable of making a mockery of itself, we are just laughing along with it.
And all that is fine, except this is not the place to do it.
Oh, and not everyone not in Goonswarm is a pubbie. In fact, I would guess that as you aren't actually in Goonfleet you are likely to be a pubbie.
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facepalm johnson
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:52:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Barzam
This guy nailed it IMO.
So how does the systematic slaughter of people by the Germans, for their religious beliefs, compare to a bunch of lunatics flying planes into skyscrapers for their religion?
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Zcorm Narwarr
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:52:00 -
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So where do you find the word Islam in jihadswarm page? You don't.
Making a religious topic on these forums is forbidden for a good reason and to add to the fail you want to censor some people just because you don't like what they say. Im glad that you are not the one to decide the issue. This thread should be locked by the way.
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Von Ulrich
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:52:00 -
[80]
Jihadswarm is vastly entertaining and bringing much to both the forums and the game. Now, I have no way of knowing if the Goons kill mails are real or not, but if they are killing just a few Chinese ISK farmers, then it was a success. Can't we all be happy with that ?
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Sertan Deras
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:53:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Sertan Deras
Haha, wow. Sometimes I forget how thin skinned you pubbies are.
JihadSwarm is funny, entertaining and the kind of dark humor we need in the world today. We are poking fun at a religion that wanted to hang a school teacher because her class named a teddy bear Muhammad. Think about that for a second before you tell us how awesome Islam is and how Goons are making a mockery. I think Islam is plenty capable of making a mockery of itself, we are just laughing along with it.
And all that is fine, except this is not the place to do it.
Oh, and not everyone not in Goonswarm is a pubbie. In fact, I would guess that as you aren't actually in Goonfleet you are likely to be a pubbie.
Oh, I am totally a pubbie, from the word go.
That said, I also understand the humor in these things, something many people (you included) seem not to. The world needs to take itself LESS seriously, not more. Learn to laugh a little, learn to realize it's really not that serious. What IS serious is a religion wanting to hang a school teacher over a teddy bear. Making fun of that kind of idiocy should be the natural human reaction.
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Avon
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:56:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Sertan Deras
Oh, I am totally a pubbie, from the word go.
That said, I also understand the humor in these things, something many people (you included) seem not to. The world needs to take itself LESS seriously, not more. Learn to laugh a little, learn to realize it's really not that serious. What IS serious is a religion wanting to hang a school teacher over a teddy bear. Making fun of that kind of idiocy should be the natural human reaction.
If I wanted to make jokes about this I would log on to my SA account and joke away, yak yak yak.
However, I don't think that stuff needs to be spread around and thrust in the faces of people who don't want to be subject to it.
It isn't about what is or isn't funny, it is about what is or isn't appropriate.
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Sertan Deras
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:57:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Avon
If I wanted to make jokes about this I would log on to my SA account and joke away, yak yak yak.
However, I don't think that stuff needs to be spread around and thrust in the faces of people who don't want to be subject to it.
It isn't about what is or isn't funny, it is about what is or isn't appropriate.
See, that's where we disagree. I think making fun of idiocy is ALWAYS appropriate, in any setting. So we can just agree to disagree on this.
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Threv Echandari
Dragons Of Redemption
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.26 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: Threv Echandari on 26/03/2008 17:01:09
Originally by: Raijin Iyo
I don't know, but it seems like they are going out of their way to step on people's toes when they don't have to. It just really isn't that amusing.
This^
and This
Originally by: Malar
Why make stupid comments / jokes about things that just do not belong to the game? Because you can?
HELLO This is the Goons we are talking about 
This is their Modus Operandi for all intents and purposes. (Its so Meta you wouldn't get it)
Just getting a rise out of someone is all it takes for them to be happy about their actions. The more offended you claim to be the happier they are. (Remember the Tastless WTC Sigs?)
Disclaimer: I don't care about jihadswarm.. they provide me with entertainment value at times and I don't fly a hulk so I don't have a vested interest.. oh...IBTL
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Avon
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.26 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sertan Deras
See, that's where we disagree. I think making fun of idiocy is ALWAYS appropriate, in any setting.
Doesn't it get annoying having people make fun of you all the time?
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Sertan Deras
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.26 17:03:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Sertan Deras
See, that's where we disagree. I think making fun of idiocy is ALWAYS appropriate, in any setting.
Doesn't it get annoying having people make fun of you all the time?
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Jakke Logan
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.26 17:06:00 -
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I was wondering when this would get pointed out...
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cpt rhodes
Silver Eagles
Imperium Aeternum
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Posted - 2008.03.26 17:06:00 -
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Everyone has a right to out their opinion on any religion in my opinion. They are not directly associating themselves with the islam, but with the terrorist group perhaps? I am catholic and if people mock christianity, that is up to them. I do not get angry about it and go and blow myself up. If these guys want to do this I have no problem with it, they have a right to do what they want and they are not directly annoying you.
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Surreptitious
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.26 17:08:00 -
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I PM'd you a picture of Muhammed.
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cpt rhodes
Silver Eagles
Imperium Aeternum
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Posted - 2008.03.26 17:15:00 -
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By the way, the statements that you refer to are on their website. It is not ingame or offensive to players ingame. EVE policy applys to people who are doing these things INGAME their website does not reflect apon their player behaviour ingame so go get your facts straight.
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