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dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.30 06:28:00 - [271] seleene has no rl boobs I need isk. Give it to meh [IMG]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/
Darklin Eldaris Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2008.03.30 09:25:00 - [272] Tbqfh. Whoever said you can go into RK space and survive the onslaught is totally right. My corp, Einherjar Rising, and Multiversal Enterprise Inc did this nightly a few months back, with maybe 20-40 guys a night. We repeatedly sat on our entry gate slugging it out with wave after wave of their reinforcements (there are a holy-motherf*ck-ton of them), eventually popping wrecks and de-aggroing/jumping out or warping off to a safe to play around a bit more. At first, they were total lambs to the slaughter (like I've never seen before), but over time they collectively became a bit more itchy with their jump bridge trigger fingers. They were, after 2-3 months, able to make it enough of a pain for us to hunt there that we felt the need to move on. However, during this time our combined forces were able to down a Pure. mothership, a SMASH mothership, 10 carriers, a dread, and 3 freighters as well as a HUGE amount of lesser ships. My corps personal ratio v smash/rk/friends was 1400 kils / 53 losses I won't put it past SMASH/RK to have wizened up and become a scarier more notable force in EVE (we all were once noobs), but to stand there and say you can't go up against them in a fleet (being MC and all) is honestly crazy talk. If this is all true I would have to say either MC has not fully commited to this op, or (short of their cap ships) they have indeed fallen off the wagon a bit.
Hermosa Diosas The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2008.03.30 11:17:00 - [273] Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a ***** tool elsewhere. Lol epic fail - you got your coat yet? Before you got kicked out...
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2008.03.30 12:59:00 - [274] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 30/03/2008 13:00:17 Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a ***** tool elsewhere. Lol epic fail - you got your coat yet? Before you got kicked out... that doesnt warrent a kick. There is this feature of our western society that we are all entitled to: Freedom of Speech. If viper wants to make a valid point (albeit OTT), this is a forum and thus it is his right. Jeez. i hope darknesss doesnt start campaigning behind the curtains for his removal over something so small as a forum debate - im sure he is not so.. quick to judge. eh D? Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Hermosa Diosas	Posted - 2008.03.30 13:09:00 - [275] Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 30/03/2008 13:09:30 Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 30/03/2008 13:00:17 that doesnt warrent a kick. There is this feature of our western society that we are all entitled to: Freedom of Speech. If viper wants to make a valid point (albeit OTT), this is a forum and thus it is his right. Jeez. i hope darknesss doesnt start campaigning behind the curtains for his removal over something so small as a forum debate - im sure he is not so.. quick to judge. eh D? Well i have to disagree - theres freedom of speech and well slagging of his alliance leader and his views in public - its just isnt done imo. So to me yes its warrants a big kick with a large boot. Sorry OP off topic and wont post again
Rockbox	Posted - 2008.03.30 22:07:00 - [276] Edited by: Rockbox on 30/03/2008 22:11:38 Originally by: Evil Edna Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a ***** tool elsewhere. quote if ur down C. signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link to the image URL) - Jacques([email protected])
Dec V Virulence. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.30 23:10:00 - [277] darth would kick our asses if we pulled something like that lol, not that we would, we are loyal servants of darth Hail Darth!
Setana Manoro Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.31 00:37:00 - [278] Originally by: Peoke 2008.03.27 17:27 SMASH contract results: Upto to date efficencies Smash 29.94% Rk 38.22% And the rest of anyone 52.91% --- Quote: Originally Posted by Enosh Kerrim -=SERA=- RR BS OP - Wednesday 19:00 numbers were **ty tonight, lets form up tomorrow again. <fit u ships propper ,read the fitting forums . So make sure u have u RR Bs ready tomorrow cya there - Enosh --- Quote: Originally Posted by Enosh Kerrim -=SERA=- mmh we had 13 RR BS in gang. This doesn't let us look good :-(. Perhaps it its time to cancel the contract.** --- Quote: Originally Posted by Zakma They brought 30+ BS and 30+ support. If we had the numbers it could've been a decent fight. Pretty pathetic turnout. ---- 2008.03.27 17:29 Quote: Originally Posted by Myndpyre They SHOWED you 30+30, they probably had another 30+30 sitting somewhere on a jump bridge ready to engage within 5 minutes if that fight started. Any large scale organized fleet fights against these guys is a losing situation from the start. --- Quote: Originally Posted by Zakma By the time those other people warped in we would've killed enough. Also, we had a option of simply disengaging and jumping out. We actually probably would've engaged had they not warped in the 2 moms the first time. 2008.03.27 17:30 Quote: Originally Posted by Myndpyre We've done the fleet fights with these guys 3 or 4 times now bro. Each time they bring in a lot more once the fight starts, and we "kill enough", "lose enough" and then disengage to let them win the fight, meaning . . . we lose. So I stand by my original statement, to actively look for a fight with smashkill with a fleet is a losing situation from the start. ---- Quote: Originally Posted by Zakma I disagree. PURE and Hydra had a lot of numbers as well. In the end with big RR BS gangs you can retreat pretty safely even with huge numbers chasing you as long as you know the limits of your fleet and the tactical situation you're in. Anyway, the next contract like this that we get we'll make some adjustments. Especially in developed 0.0 space with a lot of jammers and bridges. 2008.03.27 17:31 Quote: Originally Posted by AIRB (ETNY) asking in teh grill for gang info starting at 0700 and not one answer sorry but that is weak for us being on a contract also had over 30 ppl in channel --- Quote: Originally Posted by Myndpyre Smack talk from MC pilots in that post once again makes us look like total asshats and confirm that we have lost our professionalism. It is no wonder why we have a ban on that forum, and the very single tread that we let people post in it again, people show they cannot be trusted and post smack and asshattery. --- Quote: Originally Posted by Confessor what has happened? Have we become the "common" pvp alliance you encounter in eve. I remember when fighting mc just one yer ago, professionalism, nice attitudes. I refuse to believe we've changed so much. It just shows that MC cannot both fight against BoB and take a big contract at the same time; it is a big galaxy and they are stretched, fighting on 2 powerfull fronts. If they had the just smashkill to deal with, then i don't think you would have won a single fight. Would be interesting how MC reacts to this. I wouldn't be surprised if put aside 2 weeks for the entire alliance to come up and kill everything, just to prove a point.
E Vile	Posted - 2008.03.31 11:47:00 - [279] Originally by: Hey Guy Extra Extra Potatoes cause brain damage Crap! I love potatoes! Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Trask Kilraen	Posted - 2008.03.31 11:54:00 - [280] Originally by: dastommy79 seleene has no rl boobs Way to kill my fantasy. Thanks *******. Setting you red forevah! ------------------------------------------ Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Proxay	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:04:00 - [281] Originally by: Setana Manoro It just shows that MC cannot both fight against BoB and take a big contract at the same time; it is a big galaxy and they are stretched, fighting on 2 powerfull fronts. If they had the just smashkill to deal with, then i don't think you would have won a single fight. Would be interesting how MC reacts to this. I wouldn't be surprised if put aside 2 weeks for the entire alliance to come up and kill everything, just to prove a point. MC are not engaged in combat against Band of Brothers at the moment, nor any noticeable battles where a significant portion of their forces were rerouted to fight Band of Brothers during the SmashKill contract. Mercenary Coalition has always been a capable group, but I must remind people that in noticeable conflicts, they have had "support" friends for taking on larger alliances (FIX + Various entities in Catch, YouWhat and other entities up north). They personally have not gone toe to toe with a large "blob" alliance (Blob used in the sense their member base #'s vs Yours). I'm not saying they're not capable, I just believe that this isn't the right fight for their skills/talents, and would require more finesse. That said, trying to be innovative doesn't really work in large scale combat, in smaller skirmishes, it may pay off, but when you're doing battleship fleet vs battleship fleet, and trying to hold range at 190km, you're just wasting time, ships and morale. While "Zomg Fleet fights" are "2005", they're the staple for combat, discipline, understanding, micro-management (Keeping various groups assigned to other forces targets) and Fleet command abilities. Practice makes perfect, and the Mercenary Coalition knows this better than most... Time will tell as always, but this performance is indeed, sub-standard. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. If you're going to remove a signature, at least make sure it's got something that breaks the EULA, k-ta.
Hohne	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:15:00 - [282] Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Well i have to disagree - theres freedom of speech and well slagging of his alliance leader and his views in public - its just isnt done imo. You realise you're saying this in a Peoke thread ? The irony is just....
Tearavygh Quillam	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:18:00 - [283] Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Originally by: Fendragun Tearing up the north is a sporting tour for most alliances. But, nothing compares to the "We're not defending 5 regions" sport. Yet we still have more stations than RAZOR! Even after losing all those regions we still have more than you have ever had. lulz. lulz. Get it straight. I don't wanna be BoB.
xRazoRx	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:36:00 - [284] stop derailing MC vs smashkill thread to Tri vs smashkill or BoB vs "90% of eve" plz :S Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Proxay	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:41:00 - [285] Originally by: xRazoRx stop derailing MC vs smashkill thread to Tri vs smashkill or BoB vs "90% of eve" plz :S NEW OAR Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Maybe we're recruiting, I don't know, spam eve-mails to Daniel Zorg, and go into a coma for a week.
John Blackthorn Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.31 14:59:00 - [286] Edited by: John Blackthorn on 31/03/2008 15:01:49 I'll admit that when I heard MC were coming for a fight It did give me pause. However, at the moment my corp has a 92% efficiency against MC. Triumvirate on the other hand were much much harder to fight. My corp efficiency against Triumvirate were only 52%. And while I could not pull up the alliance efficiency I'm sure it was lower than that. And while Tri did kill quite a few ships including capitals we had a large fight in bwf and had two of there four mother ships into structure when the system crashed saving there ships.. sigh.. and that was the end of tri. They pulled out and left after that. -John Blackthorn Foundation CEO
Bo Bojangles Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.31 17:26:00 - [287] I don't know much about MC save from I know they have alot of history and are/were a very much feared Alliance, but they've had their split from Bob recently which has to have had some effect on them, and they had to travel up here, fight us on our own ground, and looking at their reputation, the fleet I saw was nowhere near what they could've actually fielded. Still, was nice having someone a completely different yet organized fleet to shoot at. Props to them. They flew right into Gem like they owned the place, parked in front of a station and said, "Yo,.. open up!" We did,.. Thanks fer the mails. To the other entities most notably Tri and EHR, I can't speak for the rest of the guys but as for me,.. yeah, you're right. Whatever skills I might have was forged offa the heat of your blasters. Now stop actin' all jealous of MC's little visit and let's go pew pew!! \o/
philojones	Posted - 2008.03.31 18:55:00 - [288] Originally by: Darklin Eldaris Tbqfh. Whoever said you can go into RK space and survive the onslaught is totally right. My corp, Einherjar Rising, and Multiversal Enterprise Inc did this nightly a few months back, with maybe 20-40 guys a night. We repeatedly sat on our entry gate slugging it out with wave after wave of their reinforcements (there are a holy-motherf*ck-ton of them), eventually popping wrecks and de-aggroing/jumping out or warping off to a safe to play around a bit more. At first, they were total lambs to the slaughter (like I've never seen before), but over time they collectively became a bit more itchy with their jump bridge trigger fingers. They were, after 2-3 months, able to make it enough of a pain for us to hunt there that we felt the need to move on. However, during this time our combined forces were able to down a Pure. mothership, a SMASH mothership, 10 carriers, a dread, and 3 freighters as well as a HUGE amount of lesser ships. My corps personal ratio v smash/rk/friends was 1400 kils / 53 losses I won't put it past SMASH/RK to have wizened up and become a scarier more notable force in EVE (we all were once noobs), but to stand there and say you can't go up against them in a fleet (being MC and all) is honestly crazy talk. If this is all true I would have to say either MC has not fully commited to this op, or (short of their cap ships) they have indeed fallen off the wagon a bit. Lolwtf? Sorry, you are? SMASH lost a Mothership? You, my friend, could do with backing this up with Killmails mate. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Mah Bess Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:15:00 - [289] Edited by: Mah Bess on 31/03/2008 19:17:03 Originally by: philojones Originally by: Darklin Eldaris self ************ Lolwtf? Sorry, you are? SMASH lost a Mothership? You, my friend, could do with backing this up with Killmails mate. well actually, they did. I believe it was from the same corp as that veni vedi macro corp. Some numbnut solo camping in akora with a nyx. However its not in this guys defense as I generally ignore people who like randomly pop into threads that have nothing to do with them just stroke their phallic egos such as this bucko or Mr Darkness earlier, or pretty much every post by xRazorx. The kind of people who like to lock themselves in the closet and fart just to enjoy their own stench. Congratulations! Start your own thread and jerk yourselves off in there.
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:15:00 - [290] Originally by: John Blackthorn Edited by: John Blackthorn on 31/03/2008 15:01:49 I'll admit that when I heard MC were coming for a fight It did give me pause. However, at the moment my corp has a 92% efficiency against MC. Triumvirate on the other hand were much much harder to fight. My corp efficiency against Triumvirate were only 52%. And while I could not pull up the alliance efficiency I'm sure it was lower than that. And while Tri did kill quite a few ships including capitals we had a large fight in bwf and had two of there four mother ships into structure when the system crashed saving there ships.. sigh.. and that was the end of tri. They pulled out and left after that. -John Blackthorn Foundation CEO Do not repeat redswarm's mistakes next time plox.
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:21:00 - [291] Yep, those tri moms would have been ours if it werent for our shuttle swarms and noob frigs. ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
John Blackthorn Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:23:00 - [292] When the smash pilot was camping akora gate the ceo/exec's kept telling the guy not too. And the responce we got back from the guy was that he had bought the ship with his own isk and that he no longer wanted his character trapped in the nyx. Many of us asked him to change his mind but he said he wanted to see the real capability of the ship. I was over in bwf with a gang when he got locked up with the heavy dictor and we were going to come over to assist but was told.. don't worry about it, don't want you to come.. But even if we did go I don't think the outcome would have changed due to the mass of dps the nyx was taking. They were setup to take him out. Originally by: Mah Bess Edited by: Mah Bess on 31/03/2008 19:17:03 Originally by: philojones Originally by: Darklin Eldaris self ************ Lolwtf? Sorry, you are? SMASH lost a Mothership? You, my friend, could do with backing this up with Killmails mate. well actually, they did. I believe it was from the same corp as that veni vedi macro corp. Some numbnut solo camping in akora with a nyx. However its not in this guys defense as I generally ignore people who like randomly pop into threads that have nothing to do with them just stroke their phallic egos such as this bucko or Mr Darkness earlier, or pretty much every post by xRazorx. The kind of people who like to lock themselves in the closet and fart just to enjoy their own stench. Congratulations! Start your own thread and jerk yourselves off in there.
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:26:00 - [293] Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan Yep, those tri moms would have been ours if it werent for our shuttle swarms and noob frigs. Dunno about shuttles but your ships could do much better with appropriate t2 fittings, so you would need less ppl to win a fight. Am i right or right?
John Blackthorn	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:34:00 - [294] Anyone understand what this guy is talking about? I don't... Originally by: xRazoRx Originally by: John Blackthorn Edited by: John Blackthorn on 31/03/2008 15:01:49 I'll admit that when I heard MC were coming for a fight It did give me pause. However, at the moment my corp has a 92% efficiency against MC. Triumvirate on the other hand were much much harder to fight. My corp efficiency against Triumvirate were only 52%. And while I could not pull up the alliance efficiency I'm sure it was lower than that. And while Tri did kill quite a few ships including capitals we had a large fight in bwf and had two of there four mother ships into structure when the system crashed saving there ships.. sigh.. and that was the end of tri. They pulled out and left after that. -John Blackthorn Foundation CEO Do not repeat redswarm's mistakes next time plox.
Oofig VanDoogan	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:43:00 - [295] Hes insinuating that we brought a lot of useless t1 ships to the field against the tri moms, which lead to the servers crashing instead of us bringing less people in better ships which would have theoretically given us the kills. ---------------------------------------------- Full circle. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Mah Bess	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:53:00 - [296] Originally by: John Blackthorn Anyone understand what this guy is talking about? I don't... Originally by: xRazoRx nonsense I try to skip any of his posts as they are generally non constructive needling comments pointed and inciting anger. He's like the little obnoxious kid in the back of the classroom who spends the day shooting spitwads.
Wesley Baird	Posted - 2008.03.31 20:00:00 - [297] Originally by: Mah Bess I try to skip any of his posts as they are generally non constructive needling comments pointed and inciting anger. He's like the little obnoxious kid in the back of the classroom who spends the day shooting spitwads. Actually alot of what he says makes sense...whether you want to believe it or not... Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Oofig VanDoogan	Posted - 2008.03.31 20:13:00 - [298] Wes I think you'll agree, if you heard on your intel or ts that you guys had 3 of our super caps tackled, youd bust ass over to where it was at in any ship you had (your best of course, but still). I know Angel mentioned an incident where a smash guy was ejecting shuttles, which by the way every other member of smashkill did NOT condone, but that wasnt when we were hitting the moms. Me personally, I was in BWF in a pod when the epic node crash happened because it would take me 10min to load pos (another pos, where the fight wasnt happening lol) so I could grab my ship. As soon as I approached the SMA, I would ewarp off. Happened 3 times lol ---------------------------------------------- Full circle. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
XxAngelxX The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.31 20:25:00 - [299] Bygones.. So yeah, who's next to visit BWF? -A-? --------------------------------------
MAXSuicide Quam Singulari Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.31 20:29:00 - [300] Originally by: philojones Originally by: Darklin Eldaris Tbqfh. Whoever said you can go into RK space and survive the onslaught is totally right. My corp, Einherjar Rising, and Multiversal Enterprise Inc did this nightly a few months back, with maybe 20-40 guys a night. We repeatedly sat on our entry gate slugging it out with wave after wave of their reinforcements (there are a holy-motherf*ck-ton of them), eventually popping wrecks and de-aggroing/jumping out or warping off to a safe to play around a bit more. At first, they were total lambs to the slaughter (like I've never seen before), but over time they collectively became a bit more itchy with their jump bridge trigger fingers. They were, after 2-3 months, able to make it enough of a pain for us to hunt there that we felt the need to move on. However, during this time our combined forces were able to down a Pure. mothership, a SMASH mothership, 10 carriers, a dread, and 3 freighters as well as a HUGE amount of lesser ships. My corps personal ratio v smash/rk/friends was 1400 kils / 53 losses I won't put it past SMASH/RK to have wizened up and become a scarier more notable force in EVE (we all were once noobs), but to stand there and say you can't go up against them in a fleet (being MC and all) is honestly crazy talk. If this is all true I would have to say either MC has not fully commited to this op, or (short of their cap ships) they have indeed fallen off the wagon a bit. Lolwtf? Sorry, you are? SMASH lost a Mothership? You, my friend, could do with backing this up with Killmails mate. someone's been living under a rock..

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