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Graalum
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:23:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Butter Dog
Ultimately MC are a small alliance and they have lost their unique selling point ('we have lots of caps'), because every medium-sized or larger space holding alliance had a boatload of caps these days.
They're still a talented and capable bunch, but there is only so much an alliance of their member size can do against established space holding entities in the era of jump bridges and cynojammers.
Its no longer 2006 and eve has changed.
please keep reasonable analysis out of our bluster and smack thread thanks.
oh and qft for the most part.
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Graalum
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:26:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Epoh
A++ would read again
as I said last night in local before MC ran away from us: they're a shadow of their former glory
no smack in local, only miscellaneous bull**** and inane drivel please.
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Crax McGee
Quam Singulari
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:26:00 -
[33]
I think MC tryed 2 drop there caps and go back 2 there roots, good on them. shame eve's just not the same anymore.
Roaming ops are just not as fun..
and its getting harder and harder for small vs big to work well.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:31:00 -
[34]
This is embarrassing. Since it's the common perception that SMASHKILL "are nubs who hold worthless space", there really is no good way of losing to them. Even if you say "Well, SMASHKILL was better than we expected", you go against the vox populi and get flamed, and if you say they suck - well, what does that say about you?
History shows SMASHKILL has survived and fought some pretty impressive alliances. Ranging from D2 to Euphoria.
RATEL
EUPHORIA RELEASED
STORM ARMADA
D2
CENTER FOR DISEASE CREATION
ASTRAL PUPPIES
TERROR IN THE SYSTEM
RAZOR ALLIANCE
MORSUS MIHI
ARROW PROJECT
"MAD PACT"
FREGE
EINHERJAR
TRIUMVIRATE
RED ALLIANCE
MERCENARY COALITION
Maybe the uninformed general consensus of "SMASHKILL" being "teh suckage" need to be re-evaluated?
I forgot, I am neutral to them, I should be smacking.
Bad SMASHKILL! Bad!
\o/
Help promote the "boost low-sec"-project.
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Oofig VanDoogan
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:36:00 -
[35]
Hey tob o/
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Full circle.
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Kaar
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:36:00 -
[36]
MC havent had a decent (non-cap) pvp force in a long long time.
It's a shame really.
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Jebidus Skari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:39:00 -
[37]
Well it really depends who they are fighting doesnt it.
MC are not the force they once were it seems, and its only a matter of time when Bob unleashes some mighty wrath on them - big mistake turning sides I guess.
MC sadly cos of this wont be around for much longer..I had much respect for them..
However talking of Smashkill as an alliance, yes they have numbers but thats it, they have some good pvpers but not as a whole. Remember they came to delklein spouting how they will take our space and got seriously spanked and ran away with tails between their legs, then we decided to go give them a visit and still gave them a bloody nose with only a fraction of the alliance down there.
But yes they arent nublets anymore I agree.
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TroNaaR
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:40:00 -
[38]
Edited by: TroNaaR on 27/03/2008 18:40:18
Delicious etc... I only regret that I have been tied up with a certain drone regionz entity who for now shall remain nameless, and have missed out on the MC Pew Pew.
Well done! o7
*Edit*
BETTY WHITE
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Omeega
UA Industry
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:47:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
History shows SMASHKILL has survived and fought some pretty impressive alliances. Ranging from D2 to Euphoria.
RED ALLIANCE
What?
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:48:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Ultimately MC are a small alliance and they have lost their unique selling point ('we have lots of caps'), because every medium-sized or larger space holding alliance had a boatload of caps these days.
They're still a talented and capable bunch, but there is only so much an alliance of their member size can do against established space holding entities in the era of jump bridges and cynojammers.
Its no longer 2006 and eve has changed.
This.
Any small pvp force faces the same problem when fighting large alliances in that you pretty much get instablobbed with the new jump bridge networks.
There pretty much are no huge, really disorganised alliances out there where you can get away with much anymore beyond a 15-20 man nano gank squad.
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Oofig VanDoogan
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:50:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Jebidus Skari
Well it really depends who they are fighting doesnt it.
MC are not the force they once were it seems, and its only a matter of time when Bob unleashes some mighty wrath on them - big mistake turning sides I guess.
MC sadly cos of this wont be around for much longer..I had much respect for them..
However talking of Smashkill as an alliance, yes they have numbers but thats it, they have some good pvpers but not as a whole. Remember they came to delklein spouting how they will take our space and got seriously spanked and ran away with tails between their legs, then we decided to go give them a visit and still gave them a bloody nose with only a fraction of the alliance down there.
But yes they arent nublets anymore I agree.
Your post is here: x
The point of the thread is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over here: x
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Full circle.
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ZaKma
Seraphin Technologies
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:54:00 -
[42]
80% of this contract (stats wise) was 1 fight. We lost that fight. Some tactical errors were made, and so on. Things don't always go as planned, but in the end I believe something can be learned from every fight.
If you wish to judge our PVP abilities from 1 fight, feel free to do so. I'd like to thank Smashkill for a nice week, and some interesting fights. See ya next time.
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Graalum
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:54:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Jebidus Skari
Well it really depends who they are fighting doesnt it.
MC are not the force they once were it seems, and its only a matter of time when Bob unleashes some mighty wrath on them - big mistake turning sides I guess.
MC sadly cos of this wont be around for much longer..I had much respect for them..
However talking of Smashkill as an alliance, yes they have numbers but thats it, they have some good pvpers but not as a whole. Remember they came to delklein spouting how they will take our space and got seriously spanked and ran away with tails between their legs, then we decided to go give them a visit and still gave them a bloody nose with only a fraction of the alliance down there.
But yes they arent nublets anymore I agree.
nubage varies with the quantity of blues. We have fewer blues.
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Epoh
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:55:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Epoh on 27/03/2008 18:55:00
Originally by: Graalum
Originally by: Epoh
A++ would read again
as I said last night in local before MC ran away from us: they're a shadow of their former glory
no smack in local, only miscellaneous bull**** and inane drivel please.
 sry boss
edit: matt damon
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Ethen Bejorn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:55:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Any small pvp force faces the same problem when fighting large alliances in that you pretty much get instablobbed with the new jump bridge networks.
There pretty much are no huge, really disorganised alliances out there where you can get away with much anymore beyond a 15-20 man nano gank squad.
And this is one of the reasons jump bridges were the worst idea of all time next to titans.
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Myndpyre Ryche
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.27 19:09:00 -
[46]
While my posts are taken extremely out of context, I will stand by even the snippets that were taken.
Fighting an enemy who has number advantages, cap support, super cap support, and the ability to hide and move fleets on a moments notice vs a smaller team who has no ability to call in the same is a losing fight. Had we been paid to bring in the super caps, blow away the jammers, and do what we do best, the results would have been very different. Sadly, not many organizations can afford the price of the MC on the level of cap assets and we are fighting with both hands tied behind our back.
Do not let that statement detract any value from Smashkill's victories this week, they have done a great job on the battlefield. I had a great deal of fun. My only wish is that the smack would have gone away, but it was present from the moment the contract started, and is clearly still present now.
See you guys in space!
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Dominixa
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.27 19:09:00 -
[47]
No one is judging your abilities from that fight and let it be known that we respect you guys for bringing the fight. When you bring a large bs fleet into home parts its always to be expected to meet everything and the kitchen sink.
I remember flying with the MC guys in the northern campaign under the Aftermath Alliance Banner and they were a great group, but by no means alone. Axiom empire and a number of others used to follow them on their contracts bolstering support numbers. In this current contract it was just them and the Numbers simply were not there. They have always evolved in the past.. so im sure there is a future...
p.s. I miss the old timers... like Rukaz, Tomas, Sivona, Nubian, .. Didn't see them in this war.
Originally by: ZaKma
80% of this contract (stats wise) was 1 fight. We lost that fight. Some tactical errors were made, and so on. Things don't always go as planned, but in the end I believe something can be learned from every fight.
If you wish to judge our PVP abilities from 1 fight, feel free to do so. I'd like to thank Smashkill for a nice week, and some interesting fights. See ya next time.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2008.03.27 19:11:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
History shows SMASHKILL has survived and fought some pretty impressive alliances. Ranging from D2 to Euphoria.
RED ALLIANCE
What?
Oh, that wasn't a fight by your standards? Equivocation ruins my day 
Help promote the "boost low-sec"-project.
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil
Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.27 19:14:00 -
[49]
Posting in an epic thread.....Good luck mc on your new thang
Pirate for Life(no matter my sec)
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Razvic
Wolfen Holding Company
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Posted - 2008.03.27 19:20:00 -
[50]
I just think its funny to see MC *****ing about how they suck and it gets posted on CAOD. especially the line "Are we just the average PVP alliance now?"
Well yes, you are. :)
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gerku
Priory Of The Lemon
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.27 19:25:00 -
[51]
Pff at this post tbh Peoke.
No comment 
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Doosh Bagge
Soldi di Protezione
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Posted - 2008.03.27 19:25:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
There pretty much are no huge, really disorganised alliances out there where you can get away with much anymore beyond a 15-20 man nano gank squad.
Go make a run through YZ-LQL.....
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Wesley Baird
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.27 19:29:00 -
[53]
Where was Peoke when we were visiting??? I didn't see him at all
Glad to see my friends in Smashkill showing well!
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luckyshot
KrayZ Dams Inc.
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.27 19:40:00 -
[54]
at least MC fought unlike ED who stay cloaked or reavers who run when we warp in
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.03.27 19:47:00 -
[55]
Lol, Peoke delivers
- Gob
IXC Recruitment |
Fun Bunny
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.27 19:49:00 -
[56]
silly mc, can't even kill some capitals under a cyno jammer
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queen1121
Empire Dreams
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Posted - 2008.03.27 19:54:00 -
[57]
Eve is chananging, and I can't say it's good direction. MC was always small but only skill in eve these days is size of t3h bl0b. Yes you can have gang of 20, but you can't really do much with it, anywhere. And MC simply can't have the edge. Everyone has caps, everyone has t2, everyone has skills(sp wise) and isk and there's not much you can do with all new fancy stuff.
So what happened: t2 for everyone, no t3 (and when it will be around, it won't do anything apart waste more isk), caps for everyone, skills for everyone... Yeah good FCing can help, but it won't stop 3x bigger fleet anymore, stuff just don't die fast enough.
Good to know you, MC, you used to be good, but maybe time to start MCwaffe?
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.03.27 19:56:00 -
[58]
Oh snap, Peoke delivers a lethal PR wound... to the enemy.
Excuse me while I consult the bible.
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.03.27 20:02:00 -
[59]
You have to remember, it's not the same MC, the majority of quality players in MC left the alliance some time ago due to their recent change of...shall we say direction, and those remaining are suffering from lacking leadership, inactivity and low morale.
Did I mention a-war is recruiting? actually we aren't, but we'll consider quality old school MC, just throwing it out there...ahem.
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USN CVN72
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.27 20:02:00 -
[60]
Ding Ding USN Arriving.
As a pvp Leader and personnel Liaison for Roadkill i will say this about the recent attention given to SmashKill and Co.
Last 3 months in eve there has been lots of pressure against Smashkill. There has been some intense fighting and lots of learning experiences. Tri/RA/xXDeathXx/ED/Wives/Kids/Work... All the mentioned has been a real handful to stand up against. There has been many times that Smash/RK and Co. have looked like total nuubs during pvp. Many occasions were we just lost crazy amounts of assets do to poor decisions. Also there have been times that victory have been stolen from us do to node crashes. Tri will agree that smash/RK and Co. had in our grasp 4 mothership kills if the node didnt crash and reset in bwf.
Up north in drone regions Smash/RK worked very hard even while being engaged locally to help with our friends in and around 9IZ. It took almost 2 months before SG/xXDeathXx and Friends to take over 9IZ station system. This call to arms up north put enormous amounts of pressure on Smash/Kill but taught us many lessons on fighting multiple fronts at the same time.
The recent contract with MC has been interesting because what i seen from them was that they decided in the beginning to do traditional engagements. RK/Smash and Co. have been kept busy recently with MC and whoever else fighting in our area. Thank You MC for changing the pace this last week. Our Older Leaders in RK know of MC's ability and what your alliance has contributed to the ever changing Eve Universe. We do not care what others are saying about the state of MC. All we know is if we let our guard down things will change quickly overnight because we have seen MC at work in the past...
I hope Roadkill and Smash have appreciated the recent attention given to our alliance and i hope everyone has learned more about pvp including against super capitals. This will not be the last time enemies will come knocking on our door steps in multiple fronts. Roadkill/Smash may not be the brightest students in class but we do learn. We do not know the meaning of failure. Even if we fail we wake up the next morning and keep on fighting. Today is a great day to die...
Ding Ding USN Departing. 
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