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Ra Vhim
Black Bag Ops
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Posted - 2008.03.28 15:44:00 -
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What’s up with all the deranged comments? MC is an alliance with about 650 members. Even the people smacking here about how much MC sucks seems to expect that MC should be able to fight against up to ten times their numbers and still crush the enemy.
Their problem is not a lack of skill, few are as good as they are when it comes to PvP. Their problem these days, when plenty of alliances can field large cap fleets, is numbers.
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Future Thing
Ninja Warriors of the Round Table
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Posted - 2008.03.28 15:54:00 -
[182]
 Originally by: Ra Vhim
WhatÆs up with all the deranged comments? MC is an alliance with about 650 members. Even the people smacking here about how much MC sucks seems to expect that MC should be able to fight against up to ten times their numbers and still crush the enemy.
Their problem is not a lack of skill, few are as good as they are when it comes to PvP. Their problem these days, when plenty of alliances can field large cap fleets, is numbers.
And what evidence is there they are good at pvp? They used to hotdrop alot? They used to be regarded highly? They used to crush weak alliances with whordes of peons at their disposal? Or maybe we should look at how good they were in the tournament- oh wait.
My point is, just saying they are good at pvp doesn't really constitute a weighty argument.
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King Hopy
Beasts of Burden
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Posted - 2008.03.28 16:15:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Future Thing
And what evidence is there they are good at pvp? They used to hotdrop alot? They used to be regarded highly? They used to crush weak alliances with whordes of peons at their disposal? Or maybe we should look at how good they were in the tournament- oh wait.
My point is, just saying they are good at pvp doesn't really constitute a weighty argument.
Can't really say much about their PVP ability as I have only flown with them in large fleets. One thing is for sure, they have the best FC's around and they got the balls to go with that.
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Eric Bestial
Emergent Chaos
Bedlam Consortium
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Posted - 2008.03.28 16:17:00 -
[184]
Very odd I dont use forums much but under the posters names use to be info on what corp or alliance their from. Now there is nothing just a name. Other people I talked to say they see the info under the posters names. Anyone else having this problem of just the name and picture showing but with no info on them? Very irritating not knowing what corp or alliance a poster is from.
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Mihailo Great
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.28 16:20:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Eric Bestial
Very odd I dont use forums much but under the posters names use to be info on what corp or alliance their from. Now there is nothing just a name. Other people I talked to say they see the info under the posters names. Anyone else having this problem of just the name and picture showing but with no info on them? Very irritating not knowing what corp or alliance a poster is from.
CCP made it so that you don't stay logged in. You have to click log in at the top of the page every time you visit the website.
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Ra Vhim
Black Bag Ops
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Posted - 2008.03.28 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Future Thing
And what evidence is there they are good at pvp? They used to hotdrop alot? They used to be regarded highly? They used to crush weak alliances with whordes of peons at their disposal? Or maybe we should look at how good they were in the tournament- oh wait.
My point is, just saying they are good at pvp doesn't really constitute a weighty argument.
I agree that "just saying" (either for or against) isn't a good arguement. The history of MC should give a good hint of their experience. If you believe they only hotdropped and attacked weak alliances then you might want to look a little closer. Of what I have learned by the experience of fighting against them, they do really good in battle and do not smack.
And.. As we all know, the Alliance Tournament = PvP in Eve. It's good that someone remind us in this thread about that undeniable truth.
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KIAEddZ
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.28 16:22:00 -
[187]
Its SO annoying.
KIA EVE Home
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.03.28 16:22:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 28/03/2008 14:25:23
We got our asses kicked in a serious of engagements by Smash and Roadkill during a short 5 day excursion where we limited ourselves to conventional ships with emphasis on pushing the limits of our RR BS Tactics.
Their mobility was better then we expected. We are looking again at our own jump bridge network to expand it and use it as effectively as they did theirs, and are going to ensure the oppositions network is adequately mapped in future contracts.
Their counter to our RR BS was excellent from the first hostile contact. In particular as noted above, the limits on the size and of on-grid mobility of our RR BS fleet was exposed and found wanting.
Our turn out was poor, particularly midweek. We had some internal drama and one corp out on a solo job for part of it. But an underlying problem of some of our older corps just not turning out for organized PVP was exposed. I doubt we are the first alliance to have this problem, but its disappointing and being addressed.
All of these combined have left us with the conclusion that the sky IS falling, and that MC should be immediately wound up.
BDCI are merging with BNC
FRICK are starting a new alliance .. Somthing About Squids.
CONIN have applied to and been rejected by Privateers
ETNY have joined Goonfleet
SERA are about to shout at me a lot in German about not following orders
Everyone forgot to tell Vidar
Thanks for coming. Sorry to disappoint both people who were rooting for us.
Myn
Dont take it as a flame but are you basically saying that some dude out there is paying you isk for you to learn how to fight in 2008?
- Gob
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Gloomy Gus
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.28 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Gloomy Gus on 28/03/2008 16:35:18
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
The content and spirit of the posts in this thread demonstrate that CAOD is completely irrelevant and stuffed to the gills with self-important altpost cretins.
Look at what you're posting. Before MC separated from BoB, everyone screamed "BoB pets! ololo! MC FAIL!" Now that they've left, you're screaming "Shoulda stayed with BoB! orfofl! MC FAIL!" Damned if they do, damned if they don't, right?
MC hasn't failed. MC has fought contracts against the likes of people that'd make most of you crap your shorts and instadock. So, just because they didn't do too well in one engagement, one out of thousands, the alliance is supposedly on the brink of ruin? Merc corps DO occasionally screw up, you know - god knows I have my share of screw-ups. They're just experiencing growing pains. Besides, a merc corp's job is to kill, not to look good on killboards with great ratios - losses are irrelevant if they're taken in the name of a contract.
This is all true but really at the bottom of it if there were any honest posts on CAOD they wouldn't be in the best interests of an alliance to make anyway (unless that alliance is already winning). Proper spin can matter a lot more than actual victories because it keeps your pilots logging in. MC aren't mercenaries they're traitorous backstabbers for taking a different contract! RK are winning battle after battle! BoB is down to their last region by choice, and are making a real comeback! Chestbeating is important and can hold the scythe away long after real victories and progress are gone.
I don't expect anything to change but I just replied so really the sucker is me.
Originally by: JakeNoble
well id just like to say kilz is an epic****got
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.03.28 16:37:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Besides, a merc corp's job is to kill, not to look good on killboards with great ratios - losses are irrelevant if they're taken in the name of a contract.
It doesnt work like that, inflicting losses only hurts an enemy if it is having an impact on their morale (also see: Goonswarm). As it stands now the employer (if there really is one) did a favour to smashkill's rep and morale so far.
- Gob
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rValdez5987
Underworld Protection Agency
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.28 16:46:00 -
[191]
so had anyone actually fought mc in an even fight? Ill ive seen are huge lopsided blobfests where they are fighting atleast 3-1 and still kill 10 times more then what they lose. Imho that doesnt make smashkill that amazing... it just means that they can form larger fleets and blob mc. I respect mc for fighting smashkill under such circumstances. But betraying BoB.. that was low. Guess they have had this coming 
My views and opinions are my own, not my corp or alliances.
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Mihailo Great
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.28 16:50:00 -
[192]
MC and BOB are exactly the same in our experience. BOB have more pilots, and are publicly more arrogant, that is all the difference.
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2008.03.28 16:54:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Mihailo Great
MC and BOB are exactly the same in our experience. BOB have more pilots, and are publicly more arrogant, that is all the difference.
To be fair, most pvp groups are better at PVP than the goons, that comparison isnt particularly telling..
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xMenta (DSMA)
xBOS (CA)
ATUK (.5.)
DICE (BOB)
xElcyion Lacar
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Cassiuss
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.28 16:59:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Mihailo Great
MC and BOB are exactly the same in our experience. BOB have more pilots, and are publicly more arrogant, that is all the difference.
You dont get BoB, do you pubbie. We're arrogant cause were better than you.
Maybe you and MC would still be tight if you didnt use them as jammer fodder. LOL. Which I guess applies to just about all your allies.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.03.28 17:01:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Cassiuss
Originally by: Mihailo Great
MC and BOB are exactly the same in our experience. BOB have more pilots, and are publicly more arrogant, that is all the difference.
You dont get BoB, do you pubbie. We're arrogant cause were better than you.
Maybe you and MC would still be tight if you didnt use them as jammer fodder. LOL. Which I guess applies to just about all your allies.
BoB giving lessons on how to treat allies?
- Gob
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Cassiuss
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.28 17:07:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
BoB giving lessons on how to treat allies?
- Gob
Oh wow Gob you sure did get me there, yup I **** up all our allies and u pwnt me good.
Speaking allies, where in empire are you now?
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Mihailo Great
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.28 17:21:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Cassiuss
We're arrogant cause were better than you.
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Murtala
Mushin Market
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Posted - 2008.03.28 17:36:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Cassiuss
You dont get BoB, do you pubbie. We're arrogant cause were better than you.
 Hehehe, I like to say that you are arrogant,
But you deserve to be arrogant after kicking MC, Goon, RA, TCF etc all out of Delve and currently kicking goons out of QY6
repect
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Seth Quantix
Domination.
Scorched Earth.
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Posted - 2008.03.28 17:37:00 -
[199]
HAHA
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Dray
Spartan Industries
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.28 18:18:00 -
[200]
I dont suppose the guy who took out the contract would care to pay us for our scrimmage against Smash/RK and friends, I know its after the fact but we can boast far better stats with the same tactics.
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Sevdah
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.28 18:35:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Dray
I dont suppose the guy who took out the contract would care to pay us for our scrimmage against Smash/RK and friends, I know its after the fact but we can boast far better stats with the same tactics.
HAHAHA, always very funny to read how TRI members boast about their skills. I hope we dont have to read a similar thread about TRI sometimes in the future. But you know what? If I learned one thing while playing this game for a long time now: We will read it. That is EVE. So here is my modified EVE-version of a popular worldly wisdom:
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Graalum
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.28 18:37:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Darknesss
Smashkill will probably flame me greatly for this but who cares, lets be honest you havent fought off loads of major attacks from alot of powerful entities, many entities have never made a serious push at your space. When we were down there your morale was down the shi**er yes we do have spies, i have a spy and your intel channels were littered with smack towards eachother, your fleet capability had shrunk by atleast half, infact by the end we were able to get a larger fleet together on our own than your 4 powers could.
you should spend more time in our intel channels, they are like permanent flamefests. Fleets stopped turning up because we came to the conclusion that you weren't going to follow through with it. While what you were doing we certainly a pain in the ass, after a couple days it was just a continuation of the status quo. you wake up, shoot some immobile stuff on a pos, i log in, ninja rep some **** while afk, we log in, you log off, we rep some **** for an hour, on to the next day.
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This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head.
lol
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Peoke
Unknown Shoe Corp.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.28 18:44:00 -
[203]
To darkness bwf isnt the home of smashkill. maybe if you had your caps in the heart of geminate or your fleet. not able to jump out when your outnumbered and your kb eff will get hurt. Of the stuff i posted here the only thing that holds true are these.
1) Mc's ego and gloating days are gone for Now
2) Mc fought better and actually didnt deagress and jump out like tri always do.
3) Fastest mc guy in a nano ship is a 1/4 as fast as tri is running to airaken.
4) Darkness when you wake up look at maps and see how much sov you took of smash. At least when we went we got 1 system.
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Oofig VanDoogan
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.28 18:47:00 -
[204]
I'm going to go ahead and continue on from Graalum's post:
lol. You camped BWF and Oij a whole lot and hotdropped a bunch of moms all over the place, annnnnnd thats about it. We werent on the brink of ******* TOTAL DESTRUCTION.
Seriously Darkness, theres like 100 Tri alt posts from a few weeks ago if you wanna go chestbeat about stuff you did a month ago. This is our ****thread, now gtfo.
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Nizar
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.28 18:49:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Darknesss
...This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill...
ROFLMAO
not even close but hey, in my dreams i do wild things too, u know. like with multiple top-models and on my own private island... ahhhh (*me is deep in thoughts)
anyhow your comment made my day. you r a very funny guy darkness.
cheers
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Peoke
Unknown Shoe Corp.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.28 18:55:00 -
[206]
darkness you nano your moms. after they hit structure there was no more tri. Got some cold feet
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Peoke
Unknown Shoe Corp.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.28 18:56:00 -
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darkness you nano your moms. after they hit structure there was no more tri. Got some cold feet
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Wesley Baird
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.28 18:59:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Peoke
To darkness bwf isnt the home of smashkill. maybe if you had your caps in the heart of geminate or your fleet. not able to jump out when your outnumbered and your kb eff will get hurt. Of the stuff i posted here the only thing that holds true are these.
1) Mc's ego and gloating days are gone for Now
2) Mc fought better and actually didnt deagress and jump out like tri always do.
3) Fastest mc guy in a nano ship is a 1/4 as fast as tri is running to airaken.
4) Darkness when you wake up look at maps and see how much sov you took of smash. At least when we went we got 1 system.
So now you want to talk big...after we leave...where were you when we were in local??? Quiet as a mouse...I was there everyday...not one appearance of the mighty Peoke, not one...
Now RA has blued you again, you come out from under your rock...guess you are feeling a little more secure...
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Oofig VanDoogan
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.28 19:10:00 -
[209]
Cant speak on peoke's behalf for when you were around Wes, but the day we reset RA he was FC'ing multiple fleets, albeit in a terribly fit rapier but he was there on the frontlines leading us, so that claim is a bit silly 
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Wesley Baird
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.28 19:16:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan
Cant speak on peoke's behalf for when you were around Wes, but the day we reset RA he was FC'ing multiple fleets, albeit in a terribly fit rapier but he was there on the frontlines leading us, so that claim is a bit silly
Against Tri?
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