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Marovinchian Invicta.	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:42:00 - [121] I think it's fair too say that MC haven't been much of a standalone force for a fairly long time. They have always been much better served, both on thier "stats" and in thier overall effectiveness, when backing up a much larger force with added cap blob or simply good strategy and fleet command. MC can't stand alone, MC won't stand alone. My prediction is they will either glue themselves onto another entity or simply have the final realization that they cannot exist the way they had hoped and shut down the doors once and for all. Either way, makes for entertaining reading :)
CaptainMiller Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:45:00 - [122] Originally by: Razvic Selenee > Guys stop posting on CAOD your making us look retaded, we need to lay low and get out of the public eye. It was a mistake announcing the contract there to begin with if you ask me. Grantavious > Well I think I made a mistake coming back to MC. Seleene > the gtfo, its people that think like you that have turned this alliance into trash. I think this is a sign the time has come to turn off the lights. Seleene > Its been a good run... Quotin dis because its true
Orange Species Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:46:00 - [123] Problem is they still think it is 2006 innit? -------------
Drakine MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:59:00 - [124] Originally by: Marovinchian I think it's fair too say that MC haven't been much of a standalone force for a fairly long time. They have always been much better served, both on thier "stats" and in thier overall effectiveness, when backing up a much larger force with added cap blob or simply good strategy and fleet command. MC can't stand alone, MC won't stand alone. My prediction is they will either glue themselves onto another entity or simply have the final realization that they cannot exist the way they had hoped and shut down the doors once and for all. Either way, makes for entertaining reading :) Or merge all there corps & join bob :P
Zarquon Beeblebrox Muchacho's	Posted - 2008.03.28 03:02:00 - [125] @ Seleene Contact me, perhaps we can come up with something funny :) Lady Beeblebrox Tundragon & Teddybears Memorial Forum
Gungankllr Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.28 03:03:00 - [126] I think MC as an entity has transformed a great deal over the last few years. I remember back to the days when they were pretty much just an empire-only group, and boy, they would absolutely massacre people. One contract, they went after somebody in 0.0, (I can't remember who) and after that they went out to 0.0 pretty much exclusively. Thing is, that in Empire you're going to get a lot less fleet battles and more ganks, since most alliances live somewhere out in 0.0 land. (Speaking for myself at least, I've been out somewhere in 0.0 for most of the time I've been playing, I go back to empire to buy new skills and do missions every now and then when I'm bored) When you get out into 0.0, the greater majority of people are all looking for one thing, which is PVP. Don't get me wrong, MC is really good at what they do, I've always believed that. Thing is, the guys they are shooting at out in 0.0 love PVP as much as they do, and as a result they're just as good as MC is through experience. MC has the capital edge, but capitals are a huge risk to deploy if you don't have enough together or the support to defend them (or a couple of titans on standby) MC would prosper greatly if they just formed into a capital strike force, called in when an alliance wants another removed from a region of space. The other alliance takes care of the gates, MC deals with the POS and the other cap ships. Something along those lines. (Unless the systems are cynojammed, good luck with that) Anyhow, no matter what happens MC will always be remembered as one of the best to grace our gaming community.
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.03.28 04:06:00 - [127] Quote: The mighty mc have fallen Couldn't have happened to a more deserving group (besides KOS) tbh.
Grantavious Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.28 07:16:00 - [128] Originally by: Razvic Selenee > Guys stop posting on CAOD your making us look retaded, we need to lay low and get out of the public eye. It was a mistake announcing the contract there to begin with if you ask me. Grantavious > Well I think I made a mistake coming back to MC. Seleene > the gtfo, its people that think like you that have turned this alliance into trash. I think this is a sign the time has come to turn off the lights. Seleene > Its been a good run... hmmmm...first time i've ever been quoted on eve-o and its a total lie....you shud get your facts straight before spewing bst on the forums....moron
Spartac0 Invicta.	Posted - 2008.03.28 07:18:00 - [129] MC are more of a joke than a threat to any strong alliance tbfh
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.03.28 07:23:00 - [130] Originally by: Grantavious bst you know you misspelled it and actually inserted asterisks? ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
FinrodFelagund Rome	Posted - 2008.03.28 07:47:00 - [131] Originally by: Graalum Edited by: Graalum on 28/03/2008 02:14:17 Originally by: xRazoRx Edited by: xRazoRx on 28/03/2008 00:15:28 Originally by: Wasted Mind Smashkill = God bless these guys and i will tell you why (hell i don't even know their players personaly). If there is one group i have witnessed on and off over the years for constantly receiving crap it's smashkill. Wether it's the accusations of smash being dead without roadkill, forum rumors of smash betraying roadkill or vice versa, the leaders calling eachother poo poo heads ect. I thought you were talking about redswarm. Originally by: Tobias Sjodin History shows SMASHKILL has survived and fought some pretty impressive alliances. RED ALLIANCE Yes, smashkill survived Red alliance. Its official, since SDG were in RA when they attacked a system owned by chaos O****, sorry, i forgot that x.i.x are RA alts. But then, we arent dead either :S P.S.: lolmc we are talking about over a year ago, after uax got scammed and couldn't take responsibility for his own mistake. nice try though. Last history lesson I took, it was smash that got "scammed" (out of rights to a 10/10 plex) then again that thread could just be pure propaganda ;p
DrDevice Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.28 08:19:00 - [132] Edited by: DrDevice on 28/03/2008 08:19:34 I'd just like to say that we claim complete responsibility for the results from this contract :) without our several month training exercise with smashkill, during which we taught them 'teh rr gang' 'teh nano gang' 'teh hostile pos in your system' 'teh blob' and repeated these lessons sufficiently to encourage personal growth and increased dedication. We then gave smashkill the 1-2 week half term break to get themselves sorted again ready for mc :) so basically spa win.....again (on a serious note, nice one to the beleaguered defenders :))
Ace Frehley Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 08:34:00 - [133] Everyone has a shtty day sometimes. Can¦t be god everytime GL and have fun everyone BTW anyone wanna cybering me now? feelin alone
Idaeus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.28 08:34:00 - [134] Edited by: Idaeus on 28/03/2008 08:34:29 Originally by: Dominixa p.s. I miss the old timers... like Rukaz, Tomas, Sivona, Nubian, .. Didn't see them in this war. Tomas is good people, even if he is in TRI now.
Tearavygh Quillam Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 08:37:00 - [135] RZR in turmoil, TCF collapsing, just like the Coalition and right now MC are the next in line! Just because it's on CAOD, it must be happening.
RaV1N Green Men Incorporated	Posted - 2008.03.28 08:40:00 - [136] Congrats guys, sounds like fun
Fesken Rans The Order of Cistral The Kano Organisation	Posted - 2008.03.28 08:46:00 - [137] The revolution will be televised.
Mrs Tradeline Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.03.28 08:50:00 - [138] Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam RZR in turmoil, TCF collapsing, just like the Coalition and right now MC are the next in line! Just because it's on CAOD, it must be happening. One thing at least never changes - poor Razor forum trolls.
pershphanie Deadly Addiction Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.03.28 09:57:00 - [139] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin History shows SMASHKILL has survived and fought some pretty impressive alliances. Ranging from D2 to Euphoria. @ euphoria being impressive. GJ smashkill for making everyone who who says you don't deserve to hold space look like idiots. You are the exact oposite of paper tigers. Paper bunnies maybe. Look easy to kill on paper but no one seems able to do it. GG
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.03.28 10:28:00 - [140] Edited by: Murtala on 28/03/2008 10:29:32 I know the decision to attack BoB was not selenne decision. Selenne should kick out the trouble makers in MC and grab control of MC before it collapses. TT did it with IAC and though a few corps left, they can return to there core principles, and MC still has a bit of reputation left to recruit and rebuilt. edit; just decovered that one of the biggest emo members of MC, tomas, as left for tri, so should be easier to rebuild.
Darknesss D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.28 10:52:00 - [141] Smashkill will probably flame me greatly for this but who cares, lets be honest you havent fought off loads of major attacks from alot of powerful entities, many entities have never made a serious push at your space. When we were down there your morale was down the shi**er yes we do have spies, i have a spy and your intel channels were littered with smack towards eachother, your fleet capability had shrunk by atleast half, infact by the end we were able to get a larger fleet together on our own than your 4 powers could. So why didn't we take it further? why did we not attack your POS's? well the answer is quite simple, engaging in that kind of warfare these days results in no fun, it results in both sides losing, even if in the end it would have been a victory it would drain us much like the southern war has drained alot of other powers, raise your hand if you enjoy POS warfare when the system has 5-10 minute module lag, where your capitals cannot siege a tower without major desync. I remember one time we took your jammer down with about 20 carriers, it took us about 30 minutes AFTER the jammer went down to get the capitals out because of lag and desync. This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. MC are still a good power, and its a shame they got off to a bad start because that will reduce their numbers in an already unbalanced (number wise) war.
Anne Lewis Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.28 10:57:00 - [142] I recommend this thread as the most useless thread of the week! :) Seriously, I mean, come on this is just some chestbeating of someone that just won one battle but not a war. And though however no one would really care about it. As I read all of this I think if MC would have put caps into action and the contract would have gone 2 weeks longer Smash/RK problably won't have some of their shiny caps and supercaps anymore. But for some reason they didn't do it.
Iroku Mata Nova Lusitania Trade and Commerce	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:06:00 - [143] Originally by: Post Quote: what has happened? Have we become the "common" pvp alliance you encounter in eve. I remember when fighting mc just one yer ago, professionalism, nice attitudes. I refuse to believe we've changed so much. Last year you fought with BoB. You fed off BoB claiming their victories as your own, thinking you were something special. Now without BoB, you are nothing! Not only that, now theyr are BoBs most Wanted Next Alliance to Kill because they betrayt them. Time to desband. Well done Seleene.
Iroku Mata Nova Lusitania Trade and Commerce	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:12:00 - [144] Originally by: Prez21 Edited by: Prez21 on 27/03/2008 18:10:55 Originally by: Post Quote: what has happened? Have we become the "common" pvp alliance you encounter in eve. I remember when fighting mc just one yer ago, professionalism, nice attitudes. I refuse to believe we've changed so much. Bad choices have cost MC, a few months ago when MC reset bob everyone thought it was the end for bob, but while bob has started to burst into life again, MC has become an average small pvp allince. A year or 2 ago MC could of probably gone up against most 0.0 space holding alliances and beat 90% of them, now i think they would struggle to remove even one, ive got a great deal of respect for what MC has achieved but them days are gone, and with poor leadership desicions MC reptuation took a huge hammering, maybe seleene should have listened to molle and kicked certain members out before things went wrong. That¦s it! Youre right.
pershphanie Deadly Addiction Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:18:00 - [145] Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. So many people say they can kill smashkill, still no one does it. I call bull****. Smashkill > the haters
Lazuran Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:25:00 - [146] Looks like MC haven't kept up with the Capital drive. They should be fighting mostly in Moms, Dreads and Titans now if they wanted to be able to keep their "low numbers with big ships" advantage.
Iroku Mata Nova Lusitania Trade and Commerce	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:27:00 - [147] Originally by: Myndpyre Ryche ...contacting our brothers in KIA ... LOL.... BROTHERS....
Sasha Lyre Blood Music	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:33:00 - [148] I believe that MC, given their numbers, have achieved more than any other entity in eve. That includes bob and trium. The bile spewed forth in this thread and the blatant bull 'forum posts' are a sad echo from a once glorious alliance (bob) and their alts, also smashkill should know better, maybe not. Anyone can have a welp day, when others have it there is nowhere near this amount of 'bile', I didn't see this kind of post when ra massacred a bob cap fleet recently. Why is it happening? Probably because peoke made the thread, which was ill advised, that will become evident in the long run. Also because bob and bob lovers are and always will be eternally enraged at mc, for smelling the way the wind blew and making a decision. The blood raiders tell me they will be happy when delve is cleansed, unofficially ofc Your Blood Goes to my Head and the Music Flows through my Veins
Iroku Mata Nova Lusitania Trade and Commerce	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:34:00 - [149] Originally by: Brobuck Originally by: ED 209 MC should never have **** over BOB. Look waht's happened to them since and look at BOB. BOB's on a strong rebound and poor MC, I feel bad for their current state. MC should never have quit BoB, half heartedly joined the offensive against BoB, then because of their ineptitude, quit the coalition. Let me think how that logic worked out.... "Hmmm, looks like BoB losing is a foregone conclusion, we may want to bail on them" ... "Hmmm, bailing on them without making friends with the coalition isn't very safe, maybe we can get in the good graces of the RSF" ... "Hmmm, well, we messed up everything we told the RSF we'd help with, and dropped some of their allies in the **. Maybe we can be friends with BoB again." ... "Hmmm, who the hell is talking in my head, and why are you giving me such bad advice?" Another stupid Goon-conclusion in this Topic! And hell yes, wrong decision of MC to betray BoB.
Iroku Mata Nova Lusitania Trade and Commerce	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:39:00 - [150] Originally by: Razvic Selenee > Guys stop posting on CAOD your making us look retaded, we need to lay low and get out of the public eye. It was a mistake announcing the contract there to begin with if you ask me. Grantavious > Well I think I made a mistake coming back to MC. Seleene > the gtfo, its people that think like you that have turned this alliance into trash. I think this is a sign the time has come to turn off the lights. Seleene > Its been a good run... I remember the second or third post of the contract announcement what from Seleene saying to wellcome the new contract-announcer / diplomat of MC. Really time to turn the lights off.

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