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Peoke Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:40:00 - [1] 2008.03.27 17:27 SMASH contract results: Upto to date efficencies Smash 29.94% Rk 38.22% And the rest of anyone 52.91% --- Quote: Originally Posted by Enosh Kerrim -=SERA=- RR BS OP - Wednesday 19:00 numbers were **ty tonight, lets form up tomorrow again. <fit u ships propper ,read the fitting forums . So make sure u have u RR Bs ready tomorrow cya there - Enosh --- Quote: Originally Posted by Enosh Kerrim -=SERA=- mmh we had 13 RR BS in gang. This doesn't let us look good :-(. Perhaps it its time to cancel the contract.** --- Quote: Originally Posted by Zakma They brought 30+ BS and 30+ support. If we had the numbers it could've been a decent fight. Pretty pathetic turnout. ---- 2008.03.27 17:29 Quote: Originally Posted by Myndpyre They SHOWED you 30+30, they probably had another 30+30 sitting somewhere on a jump bridge ready to engage within 5 minutes if that fight started. Any large scale organized fleet fights against these guys is a losing situation from the start. --- Quote: Originally Posted by Zakma By the time those other people warped in we would've killed enough. Also, we had a option of simply disengaging and jumping out. We actually probably would've engaged had they not warped in the 2 moms the first time. 2008.03.27 17:30 Quote: Originally Posted by Myndpyre We've done the fleet fights with these guys 3 or 4 times now bro. Each time they bring in a lot more once the fight starts, and we "kill enough", "lose enough" and then disengage to let them win the fight, meaning . . . we lose. So I stand by my original statement, to actively look for a fight with smashkill with a fleet is a losing situation from the start. ---- Quote: Originally Posted by Zakma I disagree. PURE and Hydra had a lot of numbers as well. In the end with big RR BS gangs you can retreat pretty safely even with huge numbers chasing you as long as you know the limits of your fleet and the tactical situation you're in. Anyway, the next contract like this that we get we'll make some adjustments. Especially in developed 0.0 space with a lot of jammers and bridges. 2008.03.27 17:31 Quote: Originally Posted by AIRB (ETNY) asking in teh grill for gang info starting at 0700 and not one answer sorry but that is weak for us being on a contract also had over 30 ppl in channel --- Quote: Originally Posted by Myndpyre Smack talk from MC pilots in that post once again makes us look like total asshats and confirm that we have lost our professionalism. It is no wonder why we have a ban on that forum, and the very single tread that we let people post in it again, people show they cannot be trusted and post smack and asshattery. --- Quote: Originally Posted by Confessor what has happened? Have we become the "common" pvp alliance you encounter in eve. I remember when fighting mc just one yer ago, professionalism, nice attitudes. I refuse to believe we've changed so much.
Evil Edna Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:41:00 - [2]
Szprinkoth Sponsz GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:44:00 - [3] 1st non-worthless Peoke thread? Great MC ****, bring more.
Lasakywa Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:45:00 - [4] Edited by: Lasakywa on 27/03/2008 17:45:06 There is more spies on MC forum than on the goon forum, crazy.
Post Man Pat And His Black And White Cat	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:45:00 - [5] Quote: what has happened? Have we become the "common" pvp alliance you encounter in eve. I remember when fighting mc just one yer ago, professionalism, nice attitudes. I refuse to believe we've changed so much. Last year you fought with BoB. You fed off BoB claiming their victories as your own, thinking you were something special. Now without BoB, you are nothing! Postman Pat
ED 209 Old Detroit Crime Syndicate	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:46:00 - [6] MC should never have ****** over BOB. Look waht's happened to them since and look at BOB. BOB's on a strong rebound and poor MC, I feel bad for their current state.
Pressman1966 Manson Family SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:46:00 - [7] No mater what is said, or posted, I carry alot of respect for what MC has done and will do again. They bring good fights and pilots that are very well organized. Poor MC and anyothers that want to try Smash/Kill, good luck and understand that we are here to stay and defend very well. Good fight MC and continue to be a strong force.
Shinori GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:47:00 - [8] Peoke giving chatpron? He's not so bad after all.
Gontard E-Truth	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:47:00 - [9] How does it feel without friends, nobody liking you, and on top of that, proving yourself that you aren't what you claim to be ? Are you happy now Mynas ?
Ethen Bejorn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:47:00 - [10] Excellent thread.
Eleese Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:47:00 - [11] Tbh the stats you are posting while correct are not really representing the situation. RK/Smash kill a mc guy and they both get a kill in terms of the stats so the kill in your post counts twice. However if RK lose a bs it will only be mc on the kill. But either way the 45-50% it would work out is pretty ****.
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:48:00 - [12] Welp! ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
Dog Solitude Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:51:00 - [13] Hopefully future clients will take notice of the efficiency level. Also..."now you know what it is to be owned".
alyassa Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:52:00 - [14] Originally by: Pressman1966 No mater what is said, or posted, I carry alot of respect for what MC has done and will do again. They bring good fights and pilots that are very well organized. Poor MC and anyothers that want to try Smash/Kill, good luck and understand that we are here to stay and defend very well. Good fight MC and continue to be a strong force. This forums needs more people like this guy
Shinori GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.27 17:55:00 - [15] Originally by: alyassa Originally by: Pressman1966 No mater what is said, or posted, I carry alot of respect for what MC has done and will do again. They bring good fights and pilots that are very well organized. Poor MC and anyothers that want to try Smash/Kill, good luck and understand that we are here to stay and defend very well. Good fight MC and continue to be a strong force. This forums needs more people like this guy This is what most say when they're winning. The tune would be quite different if it weren't the case. MC CAPITAL BLOB WTF LAME
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:01:00 - [16] HOLY **** WE WON SOME FIGHTS!!? CAOD SAY IT AINT SO
Craggerz06 Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:02:00 - [17] Edited by: Craggerz06 on 27/03/2008 18:03:20 I was hoping for more pew :( I atleast thought they would roam :(
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:07:00 - [18] First page in an epic thread where SACK actually win some stuff ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Prez21 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:10:00 - [19] Edited by: Prez21 on 27/03/2008 18:10:55 Originally by: Post Quote: what has happened? Have we become the "common" pvp alliance you encounter in eve. I remember when fighting mc just one yer ago, professionalism, nice attitudes. I refuse to believe we've changed so much. Bad choices have cost MC, a few months ago when MC reset bob everyone thought it was the end for bob, but while bob has started to burst into life again, MC has become an average small pvp allince. A year or 2 ago MC could of probably gone up against most 0.0 space holding alliances and beat 90% of them, now i think they would struggle to remove even one, ive got a great deal of respect for what MC has achieved but them days are gone, and with poor leadership desicions MC reptuation took a huge hammering, maybe seleene should have listened to molle and kicked certain members out before things went wrong.
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:11:00 - [20] Sup mynas! ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
Hey Guy Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:13:00 - [21] Hey guys, Who's your favorite actor?
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:14:00 - [22] Originally by: Hey Guy Hey guys, Who's your favorite actor? ben affleck
Vagablonde Ouruboros Trading	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:15:00 - [23] matt daaaamon, of course. ________________ the way back home is always long, but if you're close to me i'm holding on.
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:15:00 - [24] Edited by: Graalum on 27/03/2008 18:16:24 Originally by: Graalum Originally by: Hey Guy Hey guys, Who's your personal lord and savior? fixed MATT DAMON
BloodRaven2 Republic University	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:15:00 - [25] Edited by: BloodRaven2 on 27/03/2008 18:15:54 I'm F****ing Matt Damon
Craggerz06 Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:16:00 - [26] Originally by: Hey Guy Hey guys, Who's your favorite actor? мент демон!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ****... MATT DAMON!!!!!! I'm not a spy :(
Fire Hawk Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:16:00 - [27] Hi mynas DICE French Wing ___ Fear the french touch.
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:18:00 - [28] Ultimately MC are a small alliance and they have lost their unique selling point ('we have lots of caps'), because every medium-sized or larger space holding alliance had a boatload of caps these days. They're still a talented and capable bunch, but there is only so much an alliance of their member size can do against established space holding entities in the era of jump bridges and cynojammers. Its no longer 2006 and eve has changed. ----------
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:21:00 - [29] Wow, smashkill must be the best alliance ever.
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:22:00 - [30] Nah, we dont sit in systems cloaked in our nano HACs. We clearly have yet to master this crazy game of EVE ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:23:00 - [31] Originally by: Butter Dog Ultimately MC are a small alliance and they have lost their unique selling point ('we have lots of caps'), because every medium-sized or larger space holding alliance had a boatload of caps these days. They're still a talented and capable bunch, but there is only so much an alliance of their member size can do against established space holding entities in the era of jump bridges and cynojammers. Its no longer 2006 and eve has changed. please keep reasonable analysis out of our bluster and smack thread thanks. oh and qft for the most part.
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:26:00 - [32] Originally by: Epoh A++ would read again as I said last night in local before MC ran away from us: they're a shadow of their former glory no smack in local, only miscellaneous bull**** and inane drivel please.
Crax McGee Quam Singulari Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:26:00 - [33] I think MC tryed 2 drop there caps and go back 2 there roots, good on them. shame eve's just not the same anymore. Roaming ops are just not as fun.. and its getting harder and harder for small vs big to work well.
Tobias Sjodin Ore Mongers	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:31:00 - [34] This is embarrassing. Since it's the common perception that SMASHKILL "are nubs who hold worthless space", there really is no good way of losing to them. Even if you say "Well, SMASHKILL was better than we expected", you go against the vox populi and get flamed, and if you say they suck - well, what does that say about you? History shows SMASHKILL has survived and fought some pretty impressive alliances. Ranging from D2 to Euphoria. RATEL EUPHORIA RELEASED STORM ARMADA D2 CENTER FOR DISEASE CREATION ASTRAL PUPPIES TERROR IN THE SYSTEM RAZOR ALLIANCE MORSUS MIHI ARROW PROJECT "MAD PACT" FREGE EINHERJAR TRIUMVIRATE RED ALLIANCE MERCENARY COALITION Maybe the uninformed general consensus of "SMASHKILL" being "teh suckage" need to be re-evaluated? I forgot, I am neutral to them, I should be smacking. Bad SMASHKILL! Bad! \o/ Help promote the "boost low-sec"-project.
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:36:00 - [35] Hey tob o/ ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
Kaar Art of War	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:36:00 - [36] MC havent had a decent (non-cap) pvp force in a long long time. It's a shame really. --- ---
Jebidus Skari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:39:00 - [37] Well it really depends who they are fighting doesnt it. MC are not the force they once were it seems, and its only a matter of time when Bob unleashes some mighty wrath on them - big mistake turning sides I guess. MC sadly cos of this wont be around for much longer..I had much respect for them.. However talking of Smashkill as an alliance, yes they have numbers but thats it, they have some good pvpers but not as a whole. Remember they came to delklein spouting how they will take our space and got seriously spanked and ran away with tails between their legs, then we decided to go give them a visit and still gave them a bloody nose with only a fraction of the alliance down there. But yes they arent nublets anymore I agree.
TroNaaR Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:40:00 - [38] Edited by: TroNaaR on 27/03/2008 18:40:18 Delicious etc... I only regret that I have been tied up with a certain drone regionz entity who for now shall remain nameless, and have missed out on the MC Pew Pew. Well done! o7 Edit BETTY WHITE
Omeega UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:47:00 - [39] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin History shows SMASHKILL has survived and fought some pretty impressive alliances. Ranging from D2 to Euphoria. RED ALLIANCE What? Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Fitz Chivalry eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:48:00 - [40] Originally by: Butter Dog Ultimately MC are a small alliance and they have lost their unique selling point ('we have lots of caps'), because every medium-sized or larger space holding alliance had a boatload of caps these days. They're still a talented and capable bunch, but there is only so much an alliance of their member size can do against established space holding entities in the era of jump bridges and cynojammers. Its no longer 2006 and eve has changed. This. Any small pvp force faces the same problem when fighting large alliances in that you pretty much get instablobbed with the new jump bridge networks. There pretty much are no huge, really disorganised alliances out there where you can get away with much anymore beyond a 15-20 man nano gank squad.
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:50:00 - [41] Originally by: Jebidus Skari Well it really depends who they are fighting doesnt it. MC are not the force they once were it seems, and its only a matter of time when Bob unleashes some mighty wrath on them - big mistake turning sides I guess. MC sadly cos of this wont be around for much longer..I had much respect for them.. However talking of Smashkill as an alliance, yes they have numbers but thats it, they have some good pvpers but not as a whole. Remember they came to delklein spouting how they will take our space and got seriously spanked and ran away with tails between their legs, then we decided to go give them a visit and still gave them a bloody nose with only a fraction of the alliance down there. But yes they arent nublets anymore I agree. Your post is here: x The point of the thread is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over here: x ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
ZaKma Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:54:00 - [42] 80% of this contract (stats wise) was 1 fight. We lost that fight. Some tactical errors were made, and so on. Things don't always go as planned, but in the end I believe something can be learned from every fight. If you wish to judge our PVP abilities from 1 fight, feel free to do so. I'd like to thank Smashkill for a nice week, and some interesting fights. See ya next time. ✖ Arachnophobia ✖
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:54:00 - [43] Originally by: Jebidus Skari Well it really depends who they are fighting doesnt it. MC are not the force they once were it seems, and its only a matter of time when Bob unleashes some mighty wrath on them - big mistake turning sides I guess. MC sadly cos of this wont be around for much longer..I had much respect for them.. However talking of Smashkill as an alliance, yes they have numbers but thats it, they have some good pvpers but not as a whole. Remember they came to delklein spouting how they will take our space and got seriously spanked and ran away with tails between their legs, then we decided to go give them a visit and still gave them a bloody nose with only a fraction of the alliance down there. But yes they arent nublets anymore I agree. nubage varies with the quantity of blues. We have fewer blues.
Epoh Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:55:00 - [44] Edited by: Epoh on 27/03/2008 18:55:00 Originally by: Graalum Originally by: Epoh A++ would read again as I said last night in local before MC ran away from us: they're a shadow of their former glory no smack in local, only miscellaneous bull**** and inane drivel please. sry boss edit: matt damon
Ethen Bejorn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:55:00 - [45] Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Any small pvp force faces the same problem when fighting large alliances in that you pretty much get instablobbed with the new jump bridge networks. There pretty much are no huge, really disorganised alliances out there where you can get away with much anymore beyond a 15-20 man nano gank squad. And this is one of the reasons jump bridges were the worst idea of all time next to titans.
Myndpyre Ryche Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:09:00 - [46] While my posts are taken extremely out of context, I will stand by even the snippets that were taken. Fighting an enemy who has number advantages, cap support, super cap support, and the ability to hide and move fleets on a moments notice vs a smaller team who has no ability to call in the same is a losing fight. Had we been paid to bring in the super caps, blow away the jammers, and do what we do best, the results would have been very different. Sadly, not many organizations can afford the price of the MC on the level of cap assets and we are fighting with both hands tied behind our back. Do not let that statement detract any value from Smashkill's victories this week, they have done a great job on the battlefield. I had a great deal of fun. My only wish is that the smack would have gone away, but it was present from the moment the contract started, and is clearly still present now. See you guys in space!
Dominixa Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:09:00 - [47] No one is judging your abilities from that fight and let it be known that we respect you guys for bringing the fight. When you bring a large bs fleet into home parts its always to be expected to meet everything and the kitchen sink. I remember flying with the MC guys in the northern campaign under the Aftermath Alliance Banner and they were a great group, but by no means alone. Axiom empire and a number of others used to follow them on their contracts bolstering support numbers. In this current contract it was just them and the Numbers simply were not there. They have always evolved in the past.. so im sure there is a future... p.s. I miss the old timers... like Rukaz, Tomas, Sivona, Nubian, .. Didn't see them in this war. Originally by: ZaKma 80% of this contract (stats wise) was 1 fight. We lost that fight. Some tactical errors were made, and so on. Things don't always go as planned, but in the end I believe something can be learned from every fight. If you wish to judge our PVP abilities from 1 fight, feel free to do so. I'd like to thank Smashkill for a nice week, and some interesting fights. See ya next time.
Tobias Sjodin Ore Mongers	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:11:00 - [48] Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Tobias Sjodin History shows SMASHKILL has survived and fought some pretty impressive alliances. Ranging from D2 to Euphoria. RED ALLIANCE What? Oh, that wasn't a fight by your standards? Equivocation ruins my day Help promote the "boost low-sec"-project.
Orar Ironfist Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:14:00 - [49] Posting in an epic thread.....Good luck mc on your new thang Pirate for Life(no matter my sec)
Razvic Wolfen Holding Company	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:20:00 - [50] I just think its funny to see MC *****ing about how they suck and it gets posted on CAOD. especially the line "Are we just the average PVP alliance now?" Well yes, you are. :)
gerku Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:25:00 - [51] Pff at this post tbh Peoke. No comment
Doosh Bagge Soldi di Protezione	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:25:00 - [52] Originally by: Fitz Chivalry There pretty much are no huge, really disorganised alliances out there where you can get away with much anymore beyond a 15-20 man nano gank squad. Go make a run through YZ-LQL..... Please help keep the API alive....
Wesley Baird D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:29:00 - [53] Where was Peoke when we were visiting??? I didn't see him at all Glad to see my friends in Smashkill showing well!
luckyshot KrayZ Dams Inc. R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:40:00 - [54] at least MC fought unlike ED who stay cloaked or reavers who run when we warp in
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:47:00 - [55] Lol, Peoke delivers - Gob IXC Recruitment
Fun Bunny University of Caille	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:49:00 - [56] silly mc, can't even kill some capitals under a cyno jammer
queen1121 Empire Dreams	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:54:00 - [57] Eve is chananging, and I can't say it's good direction. MC was always small but only skill in eve these days is size of t3h bl0b. Yes you can have gang of 20, but you can't really do much with it, anywhere. And MC simply can't have the edge. Everyone has caps, everyone has t2, everyone has skills(sp wise) and isk and there's not much you can do with all new fancy stuff. So what happened: t2 for everyone, no t3 (and when it will be around, it won't do anything apart waste more isk), caps for everyone, skills for everyone... Yeah good FCing can help, but it won't stop 3x bigger fleet anymore, stuff just don't die fast enough. Good to know you, MC, you used to be good, but maybe time to start MCwaffe?
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:56:00 - [58] Oh snap, Peoke delivers a lethal PR wound... to the enemy. Excuse me while I consult the bible. _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/
kublai Art of War	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:02:00 - [59] You have to remember, it's not the same MC, the majority of quality players in MC left the alliance some time ago due to their recent change of...shall we say direction, and those remaining are suffering from lacking leadership, inactivity and low morale. Did I mention a-war is recruiting? actually we aren't, but we'll consider quality old school MC, just throwing it out there...ahem. ------ I speak on behalf of my corporation PS. You suck
USN CVN72 Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:02:00 - [60] Ding Ding USN Arriving. As a pvp Leader and personnel Liaison for Roadkill i will say this about the recent attention given to SmashKill and Co. Last 3 months in eve there has been lots of pressure against Smashkill. There has been some intense fighting and lots of learning experiences. Tri/RA/xXDeathXx/ED/Wives/Kids/Work... All the mentioned has been a real handful to stand up against. There has been many times that Smash/RK and Co. have looked like total nuubs during pvp. Many occasions were we just lost crazy amounts of assets do to poor decisions. Also there have been times that victory have been stolen from us do to node crashes. Tri will agree that smash/RK and Co. had in our grasp 4 mothership kills if the node didnt crash and reset in bwf. Up north in drone regions Smash/RK worked very hard even while being engaged locally to help with our friends in and around 9IZ. It took almost 2 months before SG/xXDeathXx and Friends to take over 9IZ station system. This call to arms up north put enormous amounts of pressure on Smash/Kill but taught us many lessons on fighting multiple fronts at the same time. The recent contract with MC has been interesting because what i seen from them was that they decided in the beginning to do traditional engagements. RK/Smash and Co. have been kept busy recently with MC and whoever else fighting in our area. Thank You MC for changing the pace this last week. Our Older Leaders in RK know of MC's ability and what your alliance has contributed to the ever changing Eve Universe. We do not care what others are saying about the state of MC. All we know is if we let our guard down things will change quickly overnight because we have seen MC at work in the past... I hope Roadkill and Smash have appreciated the recent attention given to our alliance and i hope everyone has learned more about pvp including against super capitals. This will not be the last time enemies will come knocking on our door steps in multiple fronts. Roadkill/Smash may not be the brightest students in class but we do learn. We do not know the meaning of failure. Even if we fail we wake up the next morning and keep on fighting. Today is a great day to die... Ding Ding USN Departing.
TroNaaR Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:03:00 - [61] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Oh snap, Peoke delivers a lethal PR wound... to the enemy. Excuse me while I consult the bible.
Vasili Z Beasts of Burden	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:04:00 - [62] doodz, IAC will live longer than MC? ------- Everything I say represents my corporation and their views. All posts approved by Lorn Zolog in advance.
Future Thing Ninja Warriors of the Round Table	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:05:00 - [63] Originally by: Myndpyre Ryche Sadly, not many organizations can afford the price of the MC on the level of cap assets and we are fighting with both hands tied behind our back. So lower your prices. D: Or continue to constrain your own fun based on the silly notion that you are mercenaries that will only deliver what is paid for.
Gyro DuAquin1 Tri Optimum Ev0ke	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:08:00 - [64] Welcome to 2008
Timebomb Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:08:00 - [65] Originally by: Future Thing Originally by: Myndpyre Ryche Sadly, not many organizations can afford the price of the MC on the level of cap assets and we are fighting with both hands tied behind our back. So lower your prices. D: Or continue to constrain your own fun based on the silly notion that you are mercenaries that will only deliver what is paid for. Guess Seleene can only afford BS only fake contracts
Salastil GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:15:00 - [66] Originally by: Myndpyre Ryche While my posts are taken extremely out of context, I will stand by even the snippets that were taken. Fighting an enemy who has number advantages, cap support, super cap support, and the ability to hide and move fleets on a moments notice vs a smaller team who has no ability to call in the same is a losing fight. Had we been paid to bring in the super caps, blow away the jammers, and do what we do best, the results would have been very different. Sadly, not many organizations can afford the price of the MC on the level of cap assets and we are fighting with both hands tied behind our back. Do not let that statement detract any value from Smashkill's victories this week, they have done a great job on the battlefield. I had a great deal of fun. My only wish is that the smack would have gone away, but it was present from the moment the contract started, and is clearly still present now. See you guys in space! When in Pandemonium you'd engage just to fight and grief people even if you lost, what happened to the Myndpyre of yesteryears? Given the way every Alliance is in a powerbloc or irrelevant you're going to have to learn to accept losing fights as part of the game. Nobody pays Mercenary to sit in POS saying "doesn't look favorable." Even if you lose the fight any damage you inflict is still damage that would have otherwise not have been there.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:16:00 - [67] been seeing recent posts about mcs future etc. seems like ppl are growing up... ________________________ Comming back June 5th...
Tyremis Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:20:00 - [68] Originally by: luckyshot at least MC fought unlike ED who stay cloaked or reavers who run when we warp in *signed
hantwo S.A.S Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:20:00 - [69] Edited by: hantwo on 27/03/2008 20:23:11 Originally by: kublai You have to remember, it's not the same MC, the majority of quality players in MC left the alliance some time ago due to their recent change of...shall we say direction, and those remaining are suffering from lacking leadership, inactivity and low morale. Did I mention a-war is recruiting? actually we aren't, but we'll consider quality old school MC, just throwing it out there...ahem. mc went to pot when TC and NSN left tbh Why me eh?
Myndpyre Ryche Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:22:00 - [70] Edited by: Myndpyre Ryche on 27/03/2008 20:23:12 Originally by: Salastil When in Pandemonium you'd engage just to fight and grief people even if you lost, what happened to the Myndpyre of yesteryears? As you can see by the responses above, 2 times with fleets under my command, we engaged outnumbered, outgunned, knowing that they would probably bridge in even more troops (which they did), and knowing that we would eventually lose those fights (which we did). As for "not fighting them in a fleet to fleet combat" do not confuse that with a cessation of hostilities, I had every intention of taking in fast attack gank squads, but sadly the contract will be over before I have another free night to do so. I am still "The Aggressor" of yesteryear, make no mistake.
Prez21 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:24:00 - [71] Originally by: USN CVN72 Ding Ding USN Arriving. Last 3 months in eve there has been lots of pressure against Smashkill. There has been some intense fighting and lots of learning experiences. Tri/RA/xXDeathXx/ED/Wives/Kids/Work... All the mentioned has been a real handful to stand up against. There has been many times that Smash/RK and Co. have looked like total nuubs during pvp. Many occasions were we just lost crazy amounts of assets do to poor decisions. Also there have been times that victory have been stolen from us do to node crashes. Tri will agree that smash/RK and Co. had in our grasp 4 mothership kills if the node didnt crash and reset in bwf. You would have only killed the ms due to lag not skill, yes the node crash saved the ms but without the lag the 4 ms would have been able to remote rep each other and set there fighters on targets also the tri fleet wouldnt have last half its people on the warp in due to disconnection. Im not smacking just saying that large fleet fights are not playable and lag and not skill is usualy what wins these fights.
Goose Hypocrisy GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:24:00 - [72] Edited by: Goose Hypocrisy on 27/03/2008 20:24:51 Originally by: Myndpyre Ryche As you can see by the responses above, 2 times with fleets under my command, we engaged outnumbered, outgunned, knowing that they would probably bridge in even more troops (which they did), and knowing that we would eventually lose those fights (which we did). Oh this is such a sad story QQ Here have a kleenex
Ask Unbeatable Tenacious Danes Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:28:00 - [73] Clearly you need to fit nanos Frendly battleships Cynojammed system Hostile capitals sadly a lose/lose situation tbh
Salastil GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:29:00 - [74] Originally by: Myndpyre Ryche Edited by: Myndpyre Ryche on 27/03/2008 20:23:12 Originally by: Salastil When in Pandemonium you'd engage just to fight and grief people even if you lost, what happened to the Myndpyre of yesteryears? As you can see by the responses above, 2 times with fleets under my command, we engaged outnumbered, outgunned, knowing that they would probably bridge in even more troops (which they did), and knowing that we would eventually lose those fights (which we did). As for "not fighting them in a fleet to fleet combat" do not confuse that with a cessation of hostilities, I had every intention of taking in fast attack gank squads, but sadly the contract will be over before I have another free night to do so. I am still "The Aggressor" of yesteryear, make no mistake. If Shaod wasn't in prison I think he'd say hello.
Erik Amirault GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:31:00 - [75] Originally by: Myndpyre Ryche Edited by: Myndpyre Ryche on 27/03/2008 20:23:12 Originally by: Salastil When in Pandemonium you'd engage just to fight and grief people even if you lost, what happened to the Myndpyre of yesteryears? As you can see by the responses above, 2 times with fleets under my command, we engaged outnumbered, outgunned, knowing that they would probably bridge in even more troops (which they did), and knowing that we would eventually lose those fights (which we did). As for "not fighting them in a fleet to fleet combat" do not confuse that with a cessation of hostilities, I had every intention of taking in fast attack gank squads, but sadly the contract will be over before I have another free night to do so. I am still "The Aggressor" of yesteryear, make no mistake. Well it's good to see you actually fight somewhere I guess. Been missing it for a few months.
Jake Nooble White Nova Corp	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:32:00 - [76] Originally by: Myndpyre Ryche Edited by: Myndpyre Ryche on 27/03/2008 20:23:12 Originally by: Salastil When in Pandemonium you'd engage just to fight and grief people even if you lost, what happened to the Myndpyre of yesteryears? As you can see by the responses above, 2 times with fleets under my command, we engaged outnumbered, outgunned, knowing that they would probably bridge in even more troops (which they did), and knowing that we would eventually lose those fights (which we did). As for "not fighting them in a fleet to fleet combat" do not confuse that with a cessation of hostilities, I had every intention of taking in fast attack gank squads, but sadly the contract will be over before I have another free night to do so. I am still "The Aggressor" of yesteryear, make no mistake. Do you still get paid if your fail epiclly on your contracts? Originally by: Myndpyre Ryche While my posts are taken extremely out of context, I will stand by even the snippets that were taken. Fighting an enemy who has number advantages, cap support, super cap support, and the ability to hide and move fleets on a moments notice vs a smaller team who has no ability to call in the same is a losing fight. Had we been paid to bring in the super caps, blow away the jammers, and do what we do best, the results would have been very different. Sadly, not many organizations can afford the price of the MC on the level of cap assets and we are fighting with both hands tied behind our back. Your justifying the fact you cant handle a 60 man gang because the 'customer' didnt want capitals. I think MWA could even manage a bigger gang than MC has in smashkill space. Was funny watching MC scream about the tower in C3N wanting to kill it, but leadership never asked them why they wernt up in smashkill space... Why hire MC when they will show up with 30 people 2 of which are in poorly fitted remote rep bs's, would be better hiring KIA of all people. They can at least get more than 30 in gang.
ScheenK StatiC Ex. Drakeal Federation	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:40:00 - [77] Funny That when MC tends to loose 1 fight they suddenly suck and have lost there touch.. zomg! they lost 1 fight i think they should disband tbqh, loosing those bs's must have hurt like a biatch. So they lost a fight no biggie, everyone looses fights Peoke think about what your posting before you post it, but congrats smashkill
Shadoo North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:40:00 - [78] I think everyone is more amazed of Peoke making a good thread than they are of MCs results .
Myndpyre Ryche Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:40:00 - [79] Fine Mr. Alt, I will bite this just once. I will assume the employer will be happy with the 15-16b isk worth of damages inflicted upon Smash and Roadkill (not including other allied forces) for the prices that they paid. I did not broker this specific contract, but considering the employer doesn't pay our losses, I doubt they care less of them. As for contacting our brothers in KIA for a contract instead? By all means, they are very capable, and I am sure that their employers will be happy with the outcomes of their contracts.
bitters much Nekkid Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:56:00 - [80] Uncle Molle must wet his pants over this Looking 4 weeks ahead from now MC will be no more and Seleene will either join the ranks of BOB or leave the game for RL issues.
The Cursed Virulence. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:01:00 - [81] If you suck you suck. There is no point in trying to be somthign your not. Blobing on the other hand is pretty sad and attacking with false numbers and bringing in more to fight during the fight is even more pathtic. Fail group of people if you ask me. Beer em Good!!!!!!
Demondrew Trident Enterprises Vae Victis.	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:03:00 - [82] If you suck you suck. There is no point in trying to be somthign your not. Blobing on the other hand is pretty sad and attacking with false numbers and bringing in more to fight during the fight is even more pathtic. Fail group of people if you ask me. Beer em Good!!!!!!-The Cursed Confused are you refering to MC or Smashkil?
The Cursed Virulence. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:04:00 - [83] Well from reading all these post it seems from what people are saying both groups suck lol. Beer em Good!!!!!!
Big Al The Aftermath	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:07:00 - [84] Time to go back to working on the hydra 'contract' I guess.
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:10:00 - [85] Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 Welcome to 2008 also this btw RR gangs are useless beyond 20-25ish people, unless everyone has like slaves hg - Gob IXC Recruitment
Cassiuss Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:12:00 - [86] Originally by: Shadoo I think everyone is more amazed of Peoke making a good thread than they are of MCs results . This.
Mistress Suffering Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:18:00 - [87] So can we remove jump bridges yet? They were a terrible idea. Cynojammers for sov 4, not sov 3 while we're at it too. Nice work regardless SmashKill. MC have experience and skill, no doubt about it. SmashKill has fought a number of high end foe who did a holiday in SmashKill space. They've also learned and adapted while doing so. That's a lot better than many alliances and hats off to them doing so. Ok, back to your regularly scheduled smack.
Scatim Helicon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:24:00 - [88] Maybe MC couldn't get the numbers because they were all fighting in Delv... ohwait -----------
General Windypops Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:27:00 - [89] Hey MC, sounds like this guy could help you out (not a rickroll). ~-= Winner of the COAD Buns of Steel award, 2006 and 2007 =-~
Gjs312 The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:31:00 - [90] Originally by: ZaKma 80% of this contract (stats wise) was 1 fight. We lost that fight. Some tactical errors were made, and so on. Things don't always go as planned, but in the end I believe something can be learned from every fight. If you wish to judge our PVP abilities from 1 fight, feel free to do so. I'd like to thank Smashkill for a nice week, and some interesting fights. See ya next time. Im trying so hard to be civil here, but from looking at your board this seems to be flat out untrue (I could link about 3 majorish fights, and you lost all of them) On the other hand, this could be more then "zomg mc is donez0r" and just a bit of an awkward period trying to shift hears from the tortuga disaster back to what they used to do best. Will take some time to see I guess.
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:41:00 - [91] I don't know about you, but I wouldn't pay mercs to give my enemy a massive ego boost. Claiming the client doesn't care if you lose shows how little you know of mercenary work. The client doesn't care if you lose ships provided you accomplish something in return. People dissing MC in this thread aren't doing it because of one lost battle either. They've had that in the past, but never has it made them cry like girls. Having MC admit to themselves behind closed doors something they've argued against publicly, must feel like vindication for those who've spewed anti-MC PR in the past. _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/
Wasted Mind Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:44:00 - [92] Edited by: Wasted Mind on 27/03/2008 21:45:57 Heh, this is kind of funny. Just recently came back to the game and for me i remember the way it was a year ago. MC = Unstoppable super cap force SMASH = You guys are crap and survive off RoadKill RoadKill = You will be gone soon as bob closes in and smash will then follow. The one thing that all of these corps have in common, none of the once taken as fact statements have turned out to be true at all lol. I'll give credit to eachside and honestly look forward to seeing what is yet to come. MC = Dunno what all this stuff is about change, but even if change is present you would be a fool to say it's over for them. MC has been a force that many have feared for a long time and to the best of my knowledge nobody ever really tries to take their territory from them. Every corp has its hiccups but the ones that make it through that are the ones that end up being the strongest. I don't think it's anywhere close to being the end for them yet. Smashkill = God bless these guys and i will tell you why (hell i don't even know their players personaly). If there is one group i have witnessed on and off over the years for constantly receiving crap it's smashkill. Wether it's the accusations of smash being dead without roadkill, forum rumors of smash betraying roadkill or vice versa, the leaders calling eachother poo poo heads ect. These guys have remained true to eachother and have outlasted many so called alliances between other corps for a long time now. The land they cover may be considered small, worthless ect by other corps but you know what it's theirs. And it's been theirs for quite some time (to the best of my knowledge). These guys really do seem to be 2 corps where the members all know eachother and get along pretty well. Anyway, as stated this is just my opinion and what i remember seeing on these boards a year ago compared to what i am seeing now. Just felt like hopping in on this post because i found it funny how the tables have turned in the forum wars etc. Cheers.
LUCKY HEADY Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.27 22:10:00 - [93] this is nice lol !! - we fight outnummbert on a enemy station (double Bs or more) - the enemy have 5 Carrier and a mom in dock range for support - enemy support is many more than MC - enemy dock and come out with new ships how many of you heroes would not fight to 20% there oh no wait times 5%!!! sorry for the bad english !! and is only a game
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.27 22:13:00 - [94] Edited by: Oofig VanDoogan on 27/03/2008 22:13:57 You know, I always liked the federal navy academy ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
ragewind VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 22:16:00 - [95] Originally by: LUCKY HEADY this is nice lol !! - we fight outnummbert on a enemy station (double Bs or more) - the enemy have 5 Carrier and a mom in dock range for support - enemy support is many more than MC - enemy dock and come out with new ships how many of you heroes would not fight to 20% there oh no wait times 5%!!! sorry for the bad english !! and is only a game woot MC think we have haxing docking mom's \o/ or did mc make another silly reply after you weakest contract ever
Kain IV VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 22:19:00 - [96] woot! rage!! http://www.smash-alliance.com/kb/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=45849
Mrs Tradeline Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.03.27 22:28:00 - [97] Originally by: LUCKY HEADY this is nice lol !! - we fight outnummbert on a enemy station (double Bs or more) - the enemy have 5 Carrier and a mom in dock range for support - enemy support is many more than MC - enemy dock and come out with new ships how many of you heroes would not fight to 20% there oh no wait times 5%!!! sorry for the bad english !! and is only a game Please do not confuse guts and nobrains.
AngelofD00M Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.03.27 22:32:00 - [98] Originally by: LUCKY HEADY this is nice lol !! - we fight outnummbert on a enemy station (double Bs or more) - the enemy have 5 Carrier and a mom in dock range for support - enemy support is many more than MC - enemy dock and come out with new ships how many of you heroes would not fight to 20% there oh no wait times 5%!!! sorry for the bad english !! and is only a game Why don't you go nap the coalition to secure a system then reset standings about it, you big hero
kublai Art of War	Posted - 2008.03.27 22:35:00 - [99] Edited by: kublai on 27/03/2008 22:36:06 Double post. ------ I speak on behalf of my corporation PS. You suck
kublai Art of War	Posted - 2008.03.27 22:36:00 - [100] Originally by: LUCKY HEADY this is nice lol !! - we fight outnummbert on a enemy station (double Bs or more) - the enemy have 5 Carrier and a mom in dock range for support - enemy support is many more than MC - enemy dock and come out with new ships how many of you heroes would not fight to 20% there oh no wait times 5%!!! sorry for the bad english !! and is only a game So what you're telling me is, that your FC's are horrible? ------ I speak on behalf of my corporation PS. You suck
LUCKY HEADY Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.27 22:53:00 - [101] ohhhh uhhh a mom cane not dock what for news !!!
Wesley Baird D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.27 23:22:00 - [102] Originally by: LUCKY HEADY this is nice lol !! - we fight outnummbert on a enemy station (double Bs or more) - the enemy have 5 Carrier and a mom in dock range for support - enemy support is many more than MC - enemy dock and come out with new ships how many of you heroes would not fight to 20% there oh no wait times 5%!!! Sounds like you want to join Tri...
Max Teranous The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.27 23:23:00 - [103] Originally by: LUCKY HEADY this is nice lol !! - we fight outnummbert on a enemy station (double Bs or more) - the enemy have 5 Carrier and a mom in dock range for support - enemy support is many more than MC - enemy dock and come out with new ships how many of you heroes would not fight to 20% there oh no wait times 5%!!! sorry for the bad english !! and is only a game Erm, then you don't engage, you reship to fast ships and roam about their space, avoiding the big blob. Mynd was right in that you shouldn't fight with all those different factors against you, the weird thing is none of you seemed to try anything different. Max
Zathi Shaitan Illiteracy Combatants	Posted - 2008.03.27 23:35:00 - [104] Edited by: Zathi Shaitan on 27/03/2008 23:35:36 Originally by: Peoke SMASH contract results: Upto to date efficencies When your second line was 3 typos... only one conclusion can be drawn: You might be a good player, but you're an even bigger illiterate. Edit: SECOND line, not third. rotfl. ---- " Several unconventional alliances where made at that point " - Hey CCP, "where" != "were".. you too, Brutus? http://loseloose.com/
Razvic Wolfen Holding Company	Posted - 2008.03.27 23:41:00 - [105] Originally by: LUCKY HEADY this is nice lol !! - we fight outnummbert on a enemy station (double Bs or more) - the enemy have 5 Carrier and a mom in dock range for support - enemy support is many more than MC - enemy dock and come out with new ships how many of you heroes would not fight to 20% there oh no wait times 5%!!! sorry for the bad english !! and is only a game A MOM can not dock you noob, Nice recruit you got there MC, keep up the good work, you guys are doing an excellent job these days.... Oh and btw, It wasnt just one loss, MC has been crap for a long time now and only survived off of politics and the shadow they have stood in for so long. Today MC is weak, and nothing that it used to be, Just a below-average PVP alliance tbh.
Brobuck GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.27 23:44:00 - [106] Originally by: ED 209 MC should never have **** over BOB. Look waht's happened to them since and look at BOB. BOB's on a strong rebound and poor MC, I feel bad for their current state. MC should never have quit BoB, half heartedly joined the offensive against BoB, then because of their ineptitude, quit the coalition. Let me think how that logic worked out.... "Hmmm, looks like BoB losing is a foregone conclusion, we may want to bail on them" ... "Hmmm, bailing on them without making friends with the coalition isn't very safe, maybe we can get in the good graces of the RSF" ... "Hmmm, well, we messed up everything we told the RSF we'd help with, and dropped some of their allies in the **. Maybe we can be friends with BoB again." ... "Hmmm, who the hell is talking in my head, and why are you giving me such bad advice?"
General Windypops Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2008.03.27 23:59:00 - [107] Hi MC. Just wanted to let you know you're not important enough for me to bother trolling you. Maybe come back when you have achieved anything notable in your own right. ~-= Winner of the COAD Buns of Steel award, 2006 and 2007 =-~
Neuraxis Aeon Extreme Addiction Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2008.03.28 00:02:00 - [108] Smash are the new goons =P
ragewind VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 00:07:00 - [109] Originally by: LUCKY HEADY ohhhh uhhh a mom cane not dock what for news !!! glad i could point that out for you wouldent want mc to look like there were losing there edge and lacking critical info now would we
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.03.28 00:12:00 - [110] Edited by: xRazoRx on 28/03/2008 00:15:28 Originally by: Wasted Mind Smashkill = God bless these guys and i will tell you why (hell i don't even know their players personaly). If there is one group i have witnessed on and off over the years for constantly receiving crap it's smashkill. Wether it's the accusations of smash being dead without roadkill, forum rumors of smash betraying roadkill or vice versa, the leaders calling eachother poo poo heads ect. I thought you were talking about redswarm. Originally by: Tobias Sjodin History shows SMASHKILL has survived and fought some pretty impressive alliances. RED ALLIANCE Yes, smashkill survived Red alliance. Its official, since SDG were in RA when they attacked a system owned by chaos O****, sorry, i forgot that x.i.x are RA alts. But then, we arent dead either :S P.S.: lolmc
Razvic Wolfen Holding Company	Posted - 2008.03.28 00:47:00 - [111] Selenee > Guys stop posting on CAOD your making us look retaded, we need to lay low and get out of the public eye. It was a mistake announcing the contract there to begin with if you ask me. Grantavious > Well I think I made a mistake coming back to MC. Seleene > the gtfo, its people that think like you that have turned this alliance into trash. I think this is a sign the time has come to turn off the lights. Seleene > Its been a good run...
fugazii Novus Industries	Posted - 2008.03.28 00:49:00 - [112] Originally by: General Windypops Hi MC. Just wanted to let you know you're not important enough for me to bother trolling you. Maybe come back when you have achieved anything notable in your own right. But important enough to look up a thread and link it, then to make a second post about not posting.
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.28 00:50:00 - [113] Originally by: Neuraxis Aeon Smash are the new goons =P This is the most insulting thing I have ever read
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.28 00:52:00 - [114] Originally by: Razvic Selenee > Guys stop posting on CAOD your making us look retaded, we need to lay low and get out of the public eye. It was a mistake announcing the contract there to begin with if you ask me. Grantavious > Well I think I made a mistake coming back to MC. Seleene > the gtfo, its people that think like you that have turned this alliance into trash. I think this is a sign the time has come to turn off the lights. Seleene > Its been a good run... Seleene > Man that Martin Van Buren guy rules at PVP Sir Molle > Did you see that he successfully engaged einharjar rising recently in pf- Seleene > Yeah that was incredible, he really knows his stuff Seleene > I sure hope he never comes to gank in Period Basis, he's an unstoppable engine of 0wnage :^
General Windypops Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2008.03.28 00:53:00 - [115] Originally by: fugazii Originally by: General Windypops Hi MC. Just wanted to let you know you're not important enough for me to bother trolling you. Maybe come back when you have achieved anything notable in your own right. But important enough to look up a thread and link it, then to make a second post about not posting. Hey MC, at least low level Goons are still posting to support you - it can't be that bad. ~-= Winner of the COAD Buns of Steel award, 2006 and 2007 =-~
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.28 00:53:00 - [116] Seelene > btw im ***
Brmble GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.28 01:04:00 - [117] Originally by: Martin VanBuren Seleene > Man that Martin Van Buren guy rules at PVP Sir Molle > Did you see that he successfully engaged einharjar rising recently in pf- Seleene > Yeah that was incredible, he really knows his stuff Seleene > I sure hope he never comes to gank in Period Basis, he's an unstoppable engine of 0wnage :^ ~ no not believin in urself ~
Demolatoru Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:02:00 - [118] i blame mynas tbh
laotse The Flying Dutchmen Antesignani Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:14:00 - [119] martin van buren man you have to be dutch ow and didnt it say mc wwas a joke some time ago
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:35:00 - [120] Originally by: Graalum we are talking about over a year ago, after uax got scammed and couldn't take responsibility for his own mistake. nice try though. Eh? He did. But still he was ****ed. Also, nanogangs=war now, you've read it in a RK member post. nice try.
Marovinchian Invicta.	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:42:00 - [121] I think it's fair too say that MC haven't been much of a standalone force for a fairly long time. They have always been much better served, both on thier "stats" and in thier overall effectiveness, when backing up a much larger force with added cap blob or simply good strategy and fleet command. MC can't stand alone, MC won't stand alone. My prediction is they will either glue themselves onto another entity or simply have the final realization that they cannot exist the way they had hoped and shut down the doors once and for all. Either way, makes for entertaining reading :)
CaptainMiller Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:45:00 - [122] Originally by: Razvic Selenee > Guys stop posting on CAOD your making us look retaded, we need to lay low and get out of the public eye. It was a mistake announcing the contract there to begin with if you ask me. Grantavious > Well I think I made a mistake coming back to MC. Seleene > the gtfo, its people that think like you that have turned this alliance into trash. I think this is a sign the time has come to turn off the lights. Seleene > Its been a good run... Quotin dis because its true
Orange Species Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:46:00 - [123] Problem is they still think it is 2006 innit? -------------
Drakine MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:59:00 - [124] Originally by: Marovinchian I think it's fair too say that MC haven't been much of a standalone force for a fairly long time. They have always been much better served, both on thier "stats" and in thier overall effectiveness, when backing up a much larger force with added cap blob or simply good strategy and fleet command. MC can't stand alone, MC won't stand alone. My prediction is they will either glue themselves onto another entity or simply have the final realization that they cannot exist the way they had hoped and shut down the doors once and for all. Either way, makes for entertaining reading :) Or merge all there corps & join bob :P
Zarquon Beeblebrox Muchacho's	Posted - 2008.03.28 03:02:00 - [125] @ Seleene Contact me, perhaps we can come up with something funny :) Lady Beeblebrox Tundragon & Teddybears Memorial Forum
Gungankllr Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.28 03:03:00 - [126] I think MC as an entity has transformed a great deal over the last few years. I remember back to the days when they were pretty much just an empire-only group, and boy, they would absolutely massacre people. One contract, they went after somebody in 0.0, (I can't remember who) and after that they went out to 0.0 pretty much exclusively. Thing is, that in Empire you're going to get a lot less fleet battles and more ganks, since most alliances live somewhere out in 0.0 land. (Speaking for myself at least, I've been out somewhere in 0.0 for most of the time I've been playing, I go back to empire to buy new skills and do missions every now and then when I'm bored) When you get out into 0.0, the greater majority of people are all looking for one thing, which is PVP. Don't get me wrong, MC is really good at what they do, I've always believed that. Thing is, the guys they are shooting at out in 0.0 love PVP as much as they do, and as a result they're just as good as MC is through experience. MC has the capital edge, but capitals are a huge risk to deploy if you don't have enough together or the support to defend them (or a couple of titans on standby) MC would prosper greatly if they just formed into a capital strike force, called in when an alliance wants another removed from a region of space. The other alliance takes care of the gates, MC deals with the POS and the other cap ships. Something along those lines. (Unless the systems are cynojammed, good luck with that) Anyhow, no matter what happens MC will always be remembered as one of the best to grace our gaming community.
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.03.28 04:06:00 - [127] Quote: The mighty mc have fallen Couldn't have happened to a more deserving group (besides KOS) tbh.
Grantavious Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.28 07:16:00 - [128] Originally by: Razvic Selenee > Guys stop posting on CAOD your making us look retaded, we need to lay low and get out of the public eye. It was a mistake announcing the contract there to begin with if you ask me. Grantavious > Well I think I made a mistake coming back to MC. Seleene > the gtfo, its people that think like you that have turned this alliance into trash. I think this is a sign the time has come to turn off the lights. Seleene > Its been a good run... hmmmm...first time i've ever been quoted on eve-o and its a total lie....you shud get your facts straight before spewing bst on the forums....moron
Spartac0 Invicta.	Posted - 2008.03.28 07:18:00 - [129] MC are more of a joke than a threat to any strong alliance tbfh
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.03.28 07:23:00 - [130] Originally by: Grantavious bst you know you misspelled it and actually inserted asterisks? ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
FinrodFelagund Rome	Posted - 2008.03.28 07:47:00 - [131] Originally by: Graalum Edited by: Graalum on 28/03/2008 02:14:17 Originally by: xRazoRx Edited by: xRazoRx on 28/03/2008 00:15:28 Originally by: Wasted Mind Smashkill = God bless these guys and i will tell you why (hell i don't even know their players personaly). If there is one group i have witnessed on and off over the years for constantly receiving crap it's smashkill. Wether it's the accusations of smash being dead without roadkill, forum rumors of smash betraying roadkill or vice versa, the leaders calling eachother poo poo heads ect. I thought you were talking about redswarm. Originally by: Tobias Sjodin History shows SMASHKILL has survived and fought some pretty impressive alliances. RED ALLIANCE Yes, smashkill survived Red alliance. Its official, since SDG were in RA when they attacked a system owned by chaos O****, sorry, i forgot that x.i.x are RA alts. But then, we arent dead either :S P.S.: lolmc we are talking about over a year ago, after uax got scammed and couldn't take responsibility for his own mistake. nice try though. Last history lesson I took, it was smash that got "scammed" (out of rights to a 10/10 plex) then again that thread could just be pure propaganda ;p
DrDevice Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.28 08:19:00 - [132] Edited by: DrDevice on 28/03/2008 08:19:34 I'd just like to say that we claim complete responsibility for the results from this contract :) without our several month training exercise with smashkill, during which we taught them 'teh rr gang' 'teh nano gang' 'teh hostile pos in your system' 'teh blob' and repeated these lessons sufficiently to encourage personal growth and increased dedication. We then gave smashkill the 1-2 week half term break to get themselves sorted again ready for mc :) so basically spa win.....again (on a serious note, nice one to the beleaguered defenders :))
Ace Frehley Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 08:34:00 - [133] Everyone has a shtty day sometimes. Can¦t be god everytime GL and have fun everyone BTW anyone wanna cybering me now? feelin alone
Idaeus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.28 08:34:00 - [134] Edited by: Idaeus on 28/03/2008 08:34:29 Originally by: Dominixa p.s. I miss the old timers... like Rukaz, Tomas, Sivona, Nubian, .. Didn't see them in this war. Tomas is good people, even if he is in TRI now.
Tearavygh Quillam Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 08:37:00 - [135] RZR in turmoil, TCF collapsing, just like the Coalition and right now MC are the next in line! Just because it's on CAOD, it must be happening.
RaV1N Green Men Incorporated	Posted - 2008.03.28 08:40:00 - [136] Congrats guys, sounds like fun
Fesken Rans The Order of Cistral The Kano Organisation	Posted - 2008.03.28 08:46:00 - [137] The revolution will be televised.
Mrs Tradeline Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.03.28 08:50:00 - [138] Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam RZR in turmoil, TCF collapsing, just like the Coalition and right now MC are the next in line! Just because it's on CAOD, it must be happening. One thing at least never changes - poor Razor forum trolls.
pershphanie Deadly Addiction Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.03.28 09:57:00 - [139] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin History shows SMASHKILL has survived and fought some pretty impressive alliances. Ranging from D2 to Euphoria. @ euphoria being impressive. GJ smashkill for making everyone who who says you don't deserve to hold space look like idiots. You are the exact oposite of paper tigers. Paper bunnies maybe. Look easy to kill on paper but no one seems able to do it. GG
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.03.28 10:28:00 - [140] Edited by: Murtala on 28/03/2008 10:29:32 I know the decision to attack BoB was not selenne decision. Selenne should kick out the trouble makers in MC and grab control of MC before it collapses. TT did it with IAC and though a few corps left, they can return to there core principles, and MC still has a bit of reputation left to recruit and rebuilt. edit; just decovered that one of the biggest emo members of MC, tomas, as left for tri, so should be easier to rebuild.
Darknesss D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.28 10:52:00 - [141] Smashkill will probably flame me greatly for this but who cares, lets be honest you havent fought off loads of major attacks from alot of powerful entities, many entities have never made a serious push at your space. When we were down there your morale was down the shi**er yes we do have spies, i have a spy and your intel channels were littered with smack towards eachother, your fleet capability had shrunk by atleast half, infact by the end we were able to get a larger fleet together on our own than your 4 powers could. So why didn't we take it further? why did we not attack your POS's? well the answer is quite simple, engaging in that kind of warfare these days results in no fun, it results in both sides losing, even if in the end it would have been a victory it would drain us much like the southern war has drained alot of other powers, raise your hand if you enjoy POS warfare when the system has 5-10 minute module lag, where your capitals cannot siege a tower without major desync. I remember one time we took your jammer down with about 20 carriers, it took us about 30 minutes AFTER the jammer went down to get the capitals out because of lag and desync. This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. MC are still a good power, and its a shame they got off to a bad start because that will reduce their numbers in an already unbalanced (number wise) war.
Anne Lewis Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.28 10:57:00 - [142] I recommend this thread as the most useless thread of the week! :) Seriously, I mean, come on this is just some chestbeating of someone that just won one battle but not a war. And though however no one would really care about it. As I read all of this I think if MC would have put caps into action and the contract would have gone 2 weeks longer Smash/RK problably won't have some of their shiny caps and supercaps anymore. But for some reason they didn't do it.
Iroku Mata Nova Lusitania Trade and Commerce	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:06:00 - [143] Originally by: Post Quote: what has happened? Have we become the "common" pvp alliance you encounter in eve. I remember when fighting mc just one yer ago, professionalism, nice attitudes. I refuse to believe we've changed so much. Last year you fought with BoB. You fed off BoB claiming their victories as your own, thinking you were something special. Now without BoB, you are nothing! Not only that, now theyr are BoBs most Wanted Next Alliance to Kill because they betrayt them. Time to desband. Well done Seleene.
Iroku Mata Nova Lusitania Trade and Commerce	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:12:00 - [144] Originally by: Prez21 Edited by: Prez21 on 27/03/2008 18:10:55 Originally by: Post Quote: what has happened? Have we become the "common" pvp alliance you encounter in eve. I remember when fighting mc just one yer ago, professionalism, nice attitudes. I refuse to believe we've changed so much. Bad choices have cost MC, a few months ago when MC reset bob everyone thought it was the end for bob, but while bob has started to burst into life again, MC has become an average small pvp allince. A year or 2 ago MC could of probably gone up against most 0.0 space holding alliances and beat 90% of them, now i think they would struggle to remove even one, ive got a great deal of respect for what MC has achieved but them days are gone, and with poor leadership desicions MC reptuation took a huge hammering, maybe seleene should have listened to molle and kicked certain members out before things went wrong. That¦s it! Youre right.
pershphanie Deadly Addiction Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:18:00 - [145] Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. So many people say they can kill smashkill, still no one does it. I call bull****. Smashkill > the haters
Lazuran Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:25:00 - [146] Looks like MC haven't kept up with the Capital drive. They should be fighting mostly in Moms, Dreads and Titans now if they wanted to be able to keep their "low numbers with big ships" advantage.
Iroku Mata Nova Lusitania Trade and Commerce	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:27:00 - [147] Originally by: Myndpyre Ryche ...contacting our brothers in KIA ... LOL.... BROTHERS....
Sasha Lyre Blood Music	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:33:00 - [148] I believe that MC, given their numbers, have achieved more than any other entity in eve. That includes bob and trium. The bile spewed forth in this thread and the blatant bull 'forum posts' are a sad echo from a once glorious alliance (bob) and their alts, also smashkill should know better, maybe not. Anyone can have a welp day, when others have it there is nowhere near this amount of 'bile', I didn't see this kind of post when ra massacred a bob cap fleet recently. Why is it happening? Probably because peoke made the thread, which was ill advised, that will become evident in the long run. Also because bob and bob lovers are and always will be eternally enraged at mc, for smelling the way the wind blew and making a decision. The blood raiders tell me they will be happy when delve is cleansed, unofficially ofc Your Blood Goes to my Head and the Music Flows through my Veins
Iroku Mata Nova Lusitania Trade and Commerce	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:34:00 - [149] Originally by: Brobuck Originally by: ED 209 MC should never have **** over BOB. Look waht's happened to them since and look at BOB. BOB's on a strong rebound and poor MC, I feel bad for their current state. MC should never have quit BoB, half heartedly joined the offensive against BoB, then because of their ineptitude, quit the coalition. Let me think how that logic worked out.... "Hmmm, looks like BoB losing is a foregone conclusion, we may want to bail on them" ... "Hmmm, bailing on them without making friends with the coalition isn't very safe, maybe we can get in the good graces of the RSF" ... "Hmmm, well, we messed up everything we told the RSF we'd help with, and dropped some of their allies in the **. Maybe we can be friends with BoB again." ... "Hmmm, who the hell is talking in my head, and why are you giving me such bad advice?" Another stupid Goon-conclusion in this Topic! And hell yes, wrong decision of MC to betray BoB.
Iroku Mata Nova Lusitania Trade and Commerce	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:39:00 - [150] Originally by: Razvic Selenee > Guys stop posting on CAOD your making us look retaded, we need to lay low and get out of the public eye. It was a mistake announcing the contract there to begin with if you ask me. Grantavious > Well I think I made a mistake coming back to MC. Seleene > the gtfo, its people that think like you that have turned this alliance into trash. I think this is a sign the time has come to turn off the lights. Seleene > Its been a good run... I remember the second or third post of the contract announcement what from Seleene saying to wellcome the new contract-announcer / diplomat of MC. Really time to turn the lights off.
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:51:00 - [151] whoever were the "brains" behind stabbing BOB in the back should be removed from MC. All the people in MC that agreed to it should be removed from MC. It was a laughably bad decision. So bad, I'd almost imagine coalition agitators had pushed for this change of stance. Five minutes of thinking about what would happen next would have shown it was a terrible idea. Those that suggested it and agreed with it have been the death of MC and in one stroke have ensured that for all of MCs achievements, they will go down in Eve history books for this poor decision. Its pretty clear Seleene wants out. - - Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:52:00 - [152] Originally by: Sasha Lyre I believe that MC, given their numbers, have achieved more than any other entity in eve. That includes bob and trium. The bile spewed forth in this thread and the blatant bull 'forum posts' are a sad echo from a once glorious alliance (bob) and their alts, also smashkill should know better, maybe not. Anyone can have a welp day, when others have it there is nowhere near this amount of 'bile', I didn't see this kind of post when ra massacred a bob cap fleet recently. Why is it happening? Probably because peoke made the thread, which was ill advised, that will become evident in the long run. Also because bob and bob lovers are and always will be eternally enraged at mc, for smelling the way the wind blew and making a decision. The blood raiders tell me they will be happy when delve is cleansed, unofficially ofc Given all the smack they have taken from third parties, I think SmashKill are allowed one little return shot - consisting largely of the enemies' own words - now that they seem to be performing rather better than they were given credit for here. Ill-advised? Perhaps. But then it's not like they were widely loved and adored before was it? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
dalman Finite Horizon Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:52:00 - [153] Originally by: Sasha Lyre I believe that MC, given their numbers, have achieved more than any other entity in eve. Yea, cause MC usually fight outnumbered... I mean, it's not like the usual situation is that two rather equal alliances go at each other, and then one of them bring in MC to omgwtfblob the enemy The hard truth is that MC has never done anything by themselves and they've always had their home protected by BoB. Now they're trying to go (almost) alone (only the blob supports of KIA etc), and it's not looking good. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Sextus Licinius Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.28 12:34:00 - [154] Originally by: USN CVN72 Ding Ding USN Arriving. As a pvp Leader and personnel Liaison for Roadkill i will say this about the recent attention given to SmashKill and Co. Last 3 months in eve there has been lots of pressure against Smashkill. There has been some intense fighting and lots of learning experiences. Tri/RA/xXDeathXx/ED/Wives/Kids/Work... All the mentioned has been a real handful to stand up against. There has been many times that Smash/RK and Co. have looked like total nuubs during pvp. Many occasions were we just lost crazy amounts of assets do to poor decisions. Also there have been times that victory have been stolen from us do to node crashes. Tri will agree that smash/RK and Co. had in our grasp 4 mothership kills if the node didnt crash and reset in bwf. Up north in drone regions Smash/RK worked very hard even while being engaged locally to help with our friends in and around 9IZ. It took almost 2 months before SG/xXDeathXx and Friends to take over 9IZ station system. This call to arms up north put enormous amounts of pressure on Smash/Kill but taught us many lessons on fighting multiple fronts at the same time. The recent contract with MC has been interesting because what i seen from them was that they decided in the beginning to do traditional engagements. RK/Smash and Co. have been kept busy recently with MC and whoever else fighting in our area. Thank You MC for changing the pace this last week. Our Older Leaders in RK know of MC's ability and what your alliance has contributed to the ever changing Eve Universe. We do not care what others are saying about the state of MC. All we know is if we let our guard down things will change quickly overnight because we have seen MC at work in the past... I hope Roadkill and Smash have appreciated the recent attention given to our alliance and i hope everyone has learned more about pvp including against super capitals. This will not be the last time enemies will come knocking on our door steps in multiple fronts. Roadkill/Smash may not be the brightest students in class but we do learn. We do not know the meaning of failure. Even if we fail we wake up the next morning and keep on fighting. Today is a great day to die... Ding Ding USN Departing. Look how totally happy this guy is, this is the point of the game imo, to make ppl have fun and reunite them. "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
Neesa Corrinne Black Watch Legionnaires	Posted - 2008.03.28 12:34:00 - [155] BoB used to make posts like this. Then everyone turned on them and now look how many systems they own. Be careful of your hubris.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.28 12:51:00 - [156] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 28/03/2008 12:54:48 Originally by: USN CVN72 As a pvp Leader and personnel Liaison what ? You must be kidding. Anyway, Go MC ! [center] Old blog
Shinori GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.28 13:10:00 - [157] This is when leadership matters.
Istvaan Shogaatsu Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.03.28 13:15:00 - [158] The content and spirit of the posts in this thread demonstrate that CAOD is completely irrelevant and stuffed to the gills with self-important altpost cretins. Look at what you're posting. Before MC separated from BoB, everyone screamed "BoB pets! ololo! MC FAIL!" Now that they've left, you're screaming "Shoulda stayed with BoB! orfofl! MC FAIL!" Damned if they do, damned if they don't, right? MC hasn't failed. MC has fought contracts against the likes of people that'd make most of you crap your shorts and instadock. So, just because they didn't do too well in one engagement, one out of thousands, the alliance is supposedly on the brink of ruin? Merc corps DO occasionally screw up, you know - god knows I have my share of screw-ups. They're just experiencing growing pains. Besides, a merc corp's job is to kill, not to look good on killboards with great ratios - losses are irrelevant if they're taken in the name of a contract. The thing about MC is that they chose to be PVP mercs. They're amazing at it, but no matter how good you are, there's always the chance of losing a ship to ship engagement, and that has to be factored into any committing of forces. This is why we didn't go the direct PVP route in GH-SC, we knew we'd suck at it compared to the big alliances stomping around, and weren't willing to take those kinds of losses. Every time they commit, they run the risk of something bad happening. This takes balls. I don't see them disappearing any time soon, tbh.
Antithysis Athanasius Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.28 13:25:00 - [159] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The content and spirit of the posts in this thread demonstrate that CAOD is completely irrelevant and stuffed to the gills with self-important altpost cretins. Look at what you're posting. Before MC separated from BoB, everyone screamed "BoB pets! ololo! MC FAIL!" Now that they've left, you're screaming "Shoulda stayed with BoB! orfofl! MC FAIL!" Damned if they do, damned if they don't, right? MC hasn't failed. MC has fought contracts against the likes of people that'd make most of you crap your shorts and instadock. So, just because they didn't do too well in one engagement, one out of thousands, the alliance is supposedly on the brink of ruin? Merc corps DO occasionally screw up, you know - god knows I have my share of screw-ups. They're just experiencing growing pains. Besides, a merc corp's job is to kill, not to look good on killboards with great ratios - losses are irrelevant if they're taken in the name of a contract. The thing about MC is that they chose to be PVP mercs. They're amazing at it, but no matter how good you are, there's always the chance of losing a ship to ship engagement, and that has to be factored into any committing of forces. This is why we didn't go the direct PVP route in GH-SC, we knew we'd suck at it compared to the big alliances stomping around, and weren't willing to take those kinds of losses. Every time they commit, they run the risk of something bad happening. This takes balls. I don't see them disappearing any time soon, tbh. Quoting this for truth. -Anti
XxAngelxX The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.28 13:28:00 - [160] I thought Tortuga was doomed from start to finish. I thought MC wouldn't survive without BoB's group of friendly alliances to provide them with a proper "fleet". I thought MC chose an exceptionally bad time to leave BoB's side. Having said all that, having just fought Smashkill, I: 1) don't think Peoke's in any place to comment as Smash are still crap 2) Think MC have done fine against RK and Atlas without using capitals and with their small numbers against the blob. One thing I have to disagree with is that the opinion above about MC being the best alliance in the game. They're good at what they do yes, which is take a contract, set a HELL of a lot of people blue and go and shoot 1 entity. I don't think it makes them exceptional. --------------------------------------
Wesley Baird D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.28 13:28:00 - [161] Edited by: Wesley Baird on 28/03/2008 13:28:24 Originally by: Neesa Corrinne BoB used to make posts like this. Then everyone turned on them and now look how many systems they own. Be careful of your hubris. You must be new...this is Peoke
Aypse D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.28 13:41:00 - [162] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu So, just because they didn't do too well in one engagement, one out of thousands Quotin' this for inaccuracy, after actually looking at the killboard. Originally by: Oveur Eve is primarily a PVP game and hence our focus is on making that experience balanced.
Spartac0 Invicta.	Posted - 2008.03.28 13:46:00 - [163] Originally by: Sasha Lyre I believe that MC, given their numbers, have achieved more than any other entity in eve. That includes bob and trium. Would you please enlighten us about these achievements? on a side note, why are people saying stuff like: people that made the decision of backstabbing bob should leave MC? The fact that MC left the hard side cause they couldn't handle the pressure of the siege in delve pretty much proves their worth as an adversary not to mention that by betraying the ones that really could protect them (and did for so long) really made MC show their true colors. I saw a lot of BOB members upset with them turning red, but it was more the motive than the action. MC made their choice, they will have to live (or die) with it.
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.28 13:51:00 - [164] We got our asses kicked in a serious of engagements by Smash and Roadkill during a short 5 day excursion where we limited ourselves to conventional ships with emphasis on pushing the limits of our RR BS Tactics. Their mobility was better then we expected. We are looking again at our own jump bridge network to expand it and use it as effectively as they did theirs, and are going to ensure the oppositions network is adequately mapped in future contracts. Their counter to our RR BS was excellent from the first hostile contact. In particular as noted above, the limits on the size and of on-grid mobility of our RR BS fleet was exposed and found wanting. Our turn out was poor, particularly midweek. We had some internal drama and one corp out on a solo job for part of it. But an underlying problem of some of our older corps just not turning out for organized PVP was exposed. I doubt we are the first alliance to have this problem, but its disappointing and being addressed. All of these combined have left us with the conclusion that MC should be immediately wound up. BDCI are merging with BNC FRICK are starting a new alliance .. Somthing About Squids. CONIN have applied to and been rejected by Privateers ETNY have joined Goonfleet SERA shouted at me a lot in German about not following orders Vidar are rejoining TRI Thanks for coming. Sorry to disappoint both people who were rooting for us. Myn Sir Molle says : Mynas is Dead!
Anne Lewis Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.28 13:56:00 - [165] Originally by: XxAngelxX One thing I have to disagree with is that the opinion above about MC being the best alliance in the game. They're good at what they do yes, which is take a contract, set a HELL of a lot of people blue and go and shoot 1 entity. I don't think it makes them exceptional. That's the difference. Others think that maybe MC is the best entity within Eve. But I can't remember that MC claims to be the best. They do their best but they've never been that arrogant to claim this title afaik. Originally by: Spartac0 Originally by: Sasha Lyre I believe that MC, given their numbers, have achieved more than any other entity in eve. That includes bob and trium. Would you please enlighten us about these achievements? on a side note, why are people saying stuff like: people that made the decision of backstabbing bob should leave MC? The fact that MC left the hard side cause they couldn't handle the pressure of the siege in delve pretty much proves their worth as an adversary not to mention that by betraying the ones that really could protect them (and did for so long) really made MC show their true colors. I saw a lot of BOB members upset with them turning red, but it was more the motive than the action. MC made their choice, they will have to live (or die) with it. How about beeing autonomous like everone in Eve demanded from MC? Now they are and it's no good. Like someone before said already no matter which descission they make or what side they choose it's evertime wrong in somebodies eyes.
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.03.28 13:58:00 - [166] Originally by: Mynas Atoch We got our asses kicked in a serious of engagements by Smash and Roadkill during a short 5 day excursion where we limited ourselves to conventional ships with emphasis on pushing the limits of our RR BS Tactics. cough Dont forget it was a "contract" _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
Crovan Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.28 13:59:00 - [167] Originally by: Mynas Atoch ETNY have joined Goonfleet I for one welcome our new brosefs. The Drone Bay Podcast
ScrubbyGarrett Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.28 13:59:00 - [168] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Look at what you're posting. Before MC separated from BoB, everyone screamed "BoB pets! ololo! MC FAIL!" Now that they've left, you're screaming "Shoulda stayed with BoB! orfofl! MC FAIL!" Damned if they do, damned if they don't, right? I too think it was a bad decision to turn their backs on us. Especially the way they did it. They could have just declare their independence go north and settle down somewhere there. Without claiming our space and backstabbing us... This way they ruined they reputation. Before they were seen as bob-pets now they're hyenas... They gained nothing from this move, no independence and no neutrality. Pretty sad road MC is going down tbh :(
Gareish Tin Foil Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.28 14:05:00 - [169] Originally by: Mynas Atoch We got our asses kicked in a serious of engagements by Smash and Roadkill during a short 5 day excursion where we limited ourselves to conventional ships with emphasis on pushing the limits of our RR BS Tactics. Their mobility was better then we expected. We are looking again at our own jump bridge network to expand it and use it as effectively as they did theirs, and are going to ensure the oppositions network is adequately mapped in future contracts. Their counter to our RR BS was excellent from the first hostile contact. In particular as noted above, the limits on the size and of on-grid mobility of our RR BS fleet was exposed and found wanting. Our turn out was poor, particularly midweek. We had some internal drama and one corp out on a solo job for part of it. But an underlying problem of some of our older corps just not turning out for organized PVP was exposed. I doubt we are the first alliance to have this problem, but its disappointing and being addressed. Mynas you are not a diplomat. You should not be posting on COAD, remember?
Garia666 T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.03.28 14:10:00 - [170] all good things come to an end.. this will count for everything in ,life.. if it brakes up.. fine if they last longer.. Quote: CCP Chronotis Amarr boost is coming in a future dev blog, lets keep this on topic
Princess Jodi Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2008.03.28 14:15:00 - [171] Peoke, very nice thread. Do not think that this constitutes a proper English sentence from you, however. Quoting other people who can actually write the English language does not count.
Mihailo Great GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.28 14:19:00 - [172] Originally by: ScrubbyGarrett This way they ruined they reputation. Before they were seen as bob-pets now they're hyenas... They gained nothing from this move, no independence and no neutrality. hyena > bob pet They're slowly moving up, you're just seeing it different cause they gave you the finger.
King Hopy Beasts of Burden	Posted - 2008.03.28 14:22:00 - [173] Originally by: Razvic Originally by: LUCKY HEADY this is nice lol !! - we fight outnummbert on a enemy station (double Bs or more) - the enemy have 5 Carrier and a mom in dock range for support - enemy support is many more than MC - enemy dock and come out with new ships how many of you heroes would not fight to 20% there oh no wait times 5%!!! sorry for the bad english !! and is only a game A MOM can not dock you noob, Nice recruit you got there MC, keep up the good work, you guys are doing an excellent job these days.... Oh and btw, It wasnt just one loss, MC has been crap for a long time now and only survived off of politics and the shadow they have stood in for so long. Today MC is weak, and nothing that it used to be, Just a below-average PVP alliance tbh. Just had to do this... where exactly do you see him say that moms can dock? That's right, nowhere. Noob.
Garia666 T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.03.28 14:27:00 - [174] Originally by: King Hopy Originally by: Razvic Originally by: LUCKY HEADY this is nice lol !! - we fight outnummbert on a enemy station (double Bs or more) - the enemy have 5 Carrier and a mom in dock range for support - enemy support is many more than MC - enemy dock and come out with new ships how many of you heroes would not fight to 20% there oh no wait times 5%!!! sorry for the bad english !! and is only a game A MOM can not dock you noob, Nice recruit you got there MC, keep up the good work, you guys are doing an excellent job these days.... Oh and btw, It wasnt just one loss, MC has been crap for a long time now and only survived off of politics and the shadow they have stood in for so long. Today MC is weak, and nothing that it used to be, Just a below-average PVP alliance tbh. Just had to do this... where exactly do you see him say that moms can dock? That's right, nowhere. Noob. and a mom in dock range for support ??? Quote: CCP Chronotis Amarr boost is coming in a future dev blog, lets keep this on topic
Sasha Lyre Blood Music	Posted - 2008.03.28 14:32:00 - [175] Originally by: Spartac0 Originally by: Sasha Lyre I believe that MC, given their numbers, have achieved more than any other entity in eve. That includes bob and trium. Would you please enlighten us about these achievements? on a side note, why are people saying stuff like: people that made the decision of backstabbing bob should leave MC? The fact that MC left the hard side cause they couldn't handle the pressure of the siege in delve pretty much proves their worth as an adversary not to mention that by betraying the ones that really could protect them (and did for so long) really made MC show their true colors. I saw a lot of BOB members upset with them turning red, but it was more the motive than the action. MC made their choice, they will have to live (or die) with it. MC tor apart the north of eve, with their own cap fleet. Several alliances were left homeless after the MC visit. The righteous indignation displayed by bob, their alts and fanbrigade is quite emo tbh, why shouldn't MC decide to do their own thing. At the time they did it bob were trying to break LV's record for failure cascading. To see in this and other threads how 'great' is bobs comeback is laughable, I suppose if you call losing 6 or so regions and having perma ops to hunt moon mining pos, a comeback, then go bob. Your Blood Goes to my Head and the Music Flows through my Veins
King Hopy Beasts of Burden	Posted - 2008.03.28 14:33:00 - [176] Yeah so 4 carriers and a mom were sitting in docking range repairing support. Where does it say that he thinks the mom can dock?
dor amwar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.28 14:53:00 - [177] i for one was looking forward to getting schooled by mc, much in the same way that i learned some things by not only tri's visit but others as well. sadly it seems like i didn't miss much. i'm sure mc will give us another visit soon for another little test. unfortunately, i was in the drone regions getting schooled in the same old ccp lesson of lag and desync. think i've learned this one now, can't we change the program ccp? it is getting more and more to be the case that i have to spend more time, in even medium size engagements, fighting with the client then with the opposing fleet. when you see more comments on the forums about how the games problems won/loss the engagement then the tactics used, there is a problem. double so when those problems are the tactics.
Fendragun Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.28 15:02:00 - [178] Tearing up the north is a sporting tour for most alliances. _______________________________________________ S T A N Former DICE ceo Former ATUK director Former MACE ceo
ZenTex Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.28 15:33:00 - [179] Bit too much MC bashing in here. So, they got their arses kicked? Happens to the best. Once in a while you meet an opponent who seems to have the perfect anti-style for your tactics. In this case it's Smash, cause for much hilarity. But what MC have achieved in the past is not to sneeze about. They've had much happening to them in the past few months. Wether that was a good or bad dicision is yet to be seen, but I think turning away from bob and forming a true independent entity requires guts and provides a challenge. I'd say MC are adapting, they may or may not be succesful in the future, but I doubt they will fizzle out into oblivion. MC were and maybe still are a formidable entity. Future will tell. There's little a sledgehammer can't fix. If you can't fix it, you need a bigger sledgehammer. If it's unfixable, blame CCP. :p
Tyrrax Thorrk Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.03.28 15:40:00 - [180] Yes of course MC are a formidable entity, but a really really really overhyped one, that's why people flame and troll them, their attitudes and egos. (lol glass houses) Like Angel said, MC are good at managing vast hordes of minions and they have a lot of capitals, great logistics and the will to use them. (unless AAA logged off nearby)
Ra Vhim Black Bag Ops	Posted - 2008.03.28 15:44:00 - [181] What’s up with all the deranged comments? MC is an alliance with about 650 members. Even the people smacking here about how much MC sucks seems to expect that MC should be able to fight against up to ten times their numbers and still crush the enemy. Their problem is not a lack of skill, few are as good as they are when it comes to PvP. Their problem these days, when plenty of alliances can field large cap fleets, is numbers.
Future Thing Ninja Warriors of the Round Table	Posted - 2008.03.28 15:54:00 - [182] Originally by: Ra Vhim WhatÆs up with all the deranged comments? MC is an alliance with about 650 members. Even the people smacking here about how much MC sucks seems to expect that MC should be able to fight against up to ten times their numbers and still crush the enemy. Their problem is not a lack of skill, few are as good as they are when it comes to PvP. Their problem these days, when plenty of alliances can field large cap fleets, is numbers. And what evidence is there they are good at pvp? They used to hotdrop alot? They used to be regarded highly? They used to crush weak alliances with whordes of peons at their disposal? Or maybe we should look at how good they were in the tournament- oh wait. My point is, just saying they are good at pvp doesn't really constitute a weighty argument.
King Hopy Beasts of Burden	Posted - 2008.03.28 16:15:00 - [183] Originally by: Future Thing And what evidence is there they are good at pvp? They used to hotdrop alot? They used to be regarded highly? They used to crush weak alliances with whordes of peons at their disposal? Or maybe we should look at how good they were in the tournament- oh wait. My point is, just saying they are good at pvp doesn't really constitute a weighty argument. Can't really say much about their PVP ability as I have only flown with them in large fleets. One thing is for sure, they have the best FC's around and they got the balls to go with that.
Eric Bestial Emergent Chaos Bedlam Consortium	Posted - 2008.03.28 16:17:00 - [184] Very odd I dont use forums much but under the posters names use to be info on what corp or alliance their from. Now there is nothing just a name. Other people I talked to say they see the info under the posters names. Anyone else having this problem of just the name and picture showing but with no info on them? Very irritating not knowing what corp or alliance a poster is from.
Mihailo Great GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.28 16:20:00 - [185] Originally by: Eric Bestial Very odd I dont use forums much but under the posters names use to be info on what corp or alliance their from. Now there is nothing just a name. Other people I talked to say they see the info under the posters names. Anyone else having this problem of just the name and picture showing but with no info on them? Very irritating not knowing what corp or alliance a poster is from. CCP made it so that you don't stay logged in. You have to click log in at the top of the page every time you visit the website.
Ra Vhim Black Bag Ops	Posted - 2008.03.28 16:22:00 - [186] Originally by: Future Thing And what evidence is there they are good at pvp? They used to hotdrop alot? They used to be regarded highly? They used to crush weak alliances with whordes of peons at their disposal? Or maybe we should look at how good they were in the tournament- oh wait. My point is, just saying they are good at pvp doesn't really constitute a weighty argument. I agree that "just saying" (either for or against) isn't a good arguement. The history of MC should give a good hint of their experience. If you believe they only hotdropped and attacked weak alliances then you might want to look a little closer. Of what I have learned by the experience of fighting against them, they do really good in battle and do not smack. And.. As we all know, the Alliance Tournament = PvP in Eve. It's good that someone remind us in this thread about that undeniable truth.
KIAEddZ KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 16:22:00 - [187] Its SO annoying. KIA EVE Home
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.28 16:22:00 - [188] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 28/03/2008 14:25:23 We got our asses kicked in a serious of engagements by Smash and Roadkill during a short 5 day excursion where we limited ourselves to conventional ships with emphasis on pushing the limits of our RR BS Tactics. Their mobility was better then we expected. We are looking again at our own jump bridge network to expand it and use it as effectively as they did theirs, and are going to ensure the oppositions network is adequately mapped in future contracts. Their counter to our RR BS was excellent from the first hostile contact. In particular as noted above, the limits on the size and of on-grid mobility of our RR BS fleet was exposed and found wanting. Our turn out was poor, particularly midweek. We had some internal drama and one corp out on a solo job for part of it. But an underlying problem of some of our older corps just not turning out for organized PVP was exposed. I doubt we are the first alliance to have this problem, but its disappointing and being addressed. All of these combined have left us with the conclusion that the sky IS falling, and that MC should be immediately wound up. BDCI are merging with BNC FRICK are starting a new alliance .. Somthing About Squids. CONIN have applied to and been rejected by Privateers ETNY have joined Goonfleet SERA are about to shout at me a lot in German about not following orders Everyone forgot to tell Vidar Thanks for coming. Sorry to disappoint both people who were rooting for us. Myn Dont take it as a flame but are you basically saying that some dude out there is paying you isk for you to learn how to fight in 2008? - Gob IXC Recruitment
Gloomy Gus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.28 16:35:00 - [189] Edited by: Gloomy Gus on 28/03/2008 16:35:18 Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The content and spirit of the posts in this thread demonstrate that CAOD is completely irrelevant and stuffed to the gills with self-important altpost cretins. Look at what you're posting. Before MC separated from BoB, everyone screamed "BoB pets! ololo! MC FAIL!" Now that they've left, you're screaming "Shoulda stayed with BoB! orfofl! MC FAIL!" Damned if they do, damned if they don't, right? MC hasn't failed. MC has fought contracts against the likes of people that'd make most of you crap your shorts and instadock. So, just because they didn't do too well in one engagement, one out of thousands, the alliance is supposedly on the brink of ruin? Merc corps DO occasionally screw up, you know - god knows I have my share of screw-ups. They're just experiencing growing pains. Besides, a merc corp's job is to kill, not to look good on killboards with great ratios - losses are irrelevant if they're taken in the name of a contract. This is all true but really at the bottom of it if there were any honest posts on CAOD they wouldn't be in the best interests of an alliance to make anyway (unless that alliance is already winning). Proper spin can matter a lot more than actual victories because it keeps your pilots logging in. MC aren't mercenaries they're traitorous backstabbers for taking a different contract! RK are winning battle after battle! BoB is down to their last region by choice, and are making a real comeback! Chestbeating is important and can hold the scythe away long after real victories and progress are gone. I don't expect anything to change but I just replied so really the sucker is me. Originally by: JakeNoble well id just like to say kilz is an epic****got
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.28 16:37:00 - [190] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Besides, a merc corp's job is to kill, not to look good on killboards with great ratios - losses are irrelevant if they're taken in the name of a contract. It doesnt work like that, inflicting losses only hurts an enemy if it is having an impact on their morale (also see: Goonswarm). As it stands now the employer (if there really is one) did a favour to smashkill's rep and morale so far. - Gob IXC Recruitment
rValdez5987 Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2008.03.28 16:46:00 - [191] so had anyone actually fought mc in an even fight? Ill ive seen are huge lopsided blobfests where they are fighting atleast 3-1 and still kill 10 times more then what they lose. Imho that doesnt make smashkill that amazing... it just means that they can form larger fleets and blob mc. I respect mc for fighting smashkill under such circumstances. But betraying BoB.. that was low. Guess they have had this coming My views and opinions are my own, not my corp or alliances.
Mihailo Great GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.28 16:50:00 - [192] MC and BOB are exactly the same in our experience. BOB have more pilots, and are publicly more arrogant, that is all the difference.
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.03.28 16:54:00 - [193] Originally by: Mihailo Great MC and BOB are exactly the same in our experience. BOB have more pilots, and are publicly more arrogant, that is all the difference. To be fair, most pvp groups are better at PVP than the goons, that comparison isnt particularly telling.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
Cassiuss Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.28 16:59:00 - [194] Originally by: Mihailo Great MC and BOB are exactly the same in our experience. BOB have more pilots, and are publicly more arrogant, that is all the difference. You dont get BoB, do you pubbie. We're arrogant cause were better than you. Maybe you and MC would still be tight if you didnt use them as jammer fodder. LOL. Which I guess applies to just about all your allies.
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.28 17:01:00 - [195] Originally by: Cassiuss Originally by: Mihailo Great MC and BOB are exactly the same in our experience. BOB have more pilots, and are publicly more arrogant, that is all the difference. You dont get BoB, do you pubbie. We're arrogant cause were better than you. Maybe you and MC would still be tight if you didnt use them as jammer fodder. LOL. Which I guess applies to just about all your allies. BoB giving lessons on how to treat allies? - Gob IXC Recruitment
Cassiuss Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.28 17:07:00 - [196] Originally by: Goberth Ludwig BoB giving lessons on how to treat allies? - Gob Oh wow Gob you sure did get me there, yup I **** up all our allies and u pwnt me good. Speaking allies, where in empire are you now?
Mihailo Great GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.28 17:21:00 - [197] Originally by: Cassiuss We're arrogant cause were better than you.
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.03.28 17:36:00 - [198] Originally by: Cassiuss You dont get BoB, do you pubbie. We're arrogant cause were better than you. Hehehe, I like to say that you are arrogant, But you deserve to be arrogant after kicking MC, Goon, RA, TCF etc all out of Delve and currently kicking goons out of QY6 repect
Seth Quantix Domination. Scorched Earth.	Posted - 2008.03.28 17:37:00 - [199] HAHA
Dray Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.28 18:18:00 - [200] I dont suppose the guy who took out the contract would care to pay us for our scrimmage against Smash/RK and friends, I know its after the fact but we can boast far better stats with the same tactics.
Sevdah Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.03.28 18:35:00 - [201] Originally by: Dray I dont suppose the guy who took out the contract would care to pay us for our scrimmage against Smash/RK and friends, I know its after the fact but we can boast far better stats with the same tactics. HAHAHA, always very funny to read how TRI members boast about their skills. I hope we dont have to read a similar thread about TRI sometimes in the future. But you know what? If I learned one thing while playing this game for a long time now: We will read it. That is EVE. So here is my modified EVE-version of a popular worldly wisdom: The higher you "boast", the farther you "fail".
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.28 18:37:00 - [202] Originally by: Darknesss Smashkill will probably flame me greatly for this but who cares, lets be honest you havent fought off loads of major attacks from alot of powerful entities, many entities have never made a serious push at your space. When we were down there your morale was down the shier yes we do have spies, i have a spy and your intel channels were littered with smack towards eachother, your fleet capability had shrunk by atleast half, infact by the end we were able to get a larger fleet together on our own than your 4 powers could. you should spend more time in our intel channels, they are like permanent flamefests. Fleets stopped turning up because we came to the conclusion that you weren't going to follow through with it. While what you were doing we certainly a pain in the ass, after a couple days it was just a continuation of the status quo. you wake up, shoot some immobile stuff on a pos, i log in, ninja rep some while afk, we log in, you log off, we rep some for an hour, on to the next day. Quote: This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill**, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. lol
Peoke Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 18:44:00 - [203] To darkness bwf isnt the home of smashkill. maybe if you had your caps in the heart of geminate or your fleet. not able to jump out when your outnumbered and your kb eff will get hurt. Of the stuff i posted here the only thing that holds true are these. 1) Mc's ego and gloating days are gone for Now 2) Mc fought better and actually didnt deagress and jump out like tri always do. 3) Fastest mc guy in a nano ship is a 1/4 as fast as tri is running to airaken. 4) Darkness when you wake up look at maps and see how much sov you took of smash. At least when we went we got 1 system.
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.28 18:47:00 - [204] I'm going to go ahead and continue on from Graalum's post: lol. You camped BWF and Oij a whole lot and hotdropped a bunch of moms all over the place, annnnnnd thats about it. We werent on the brink of ***** TOTAL DESTRUCTION. Seriously Darkness, theres like 100 Tri alt posts from a few weeks ago if you wanna go chestbeat about stuff you did a month ago. This is our **thread, now gtfo. ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
Nizar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.28 18:49:00 - [205] Originally by: Darknesss ...This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill... ROFLMAO not even close but hey, in my dreams i do wild things too, u know. like with multiple top-models and on my own private island... ahhhh (*me is deep in thoughts) anyhow your comment made my day. you r a very funny guy darkness. cheers
Peoke Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 18:55:00 - [206] darkness you nano your moms. after they hit structure there was no more tri. Got some cold feet
Peoke Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 18:56:00 - [207] darkness you nano your moms. after they hit structure there was no more tri. Got some cold feet
Wesley Baird D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.28 18:59:00 - [208] Originally by: Peoke To darkness bwf isnt the home of smashkill. maybe if you had your caps in the heart of geminate or your fleet. not able to jump out when your outnumbered and your kb eff will get hurt. Of the stuff i posted here the only thing that holds true are these. 1) Mc's ego and gloating days are gone for Now 2) Mc fought better and actually didnt deagress and jump out like tri always do. 3) Fastest mc guy in a nano ship is a 1/4 as fast as tri is running to airaken. 4) Darkness when you wake up look at maps and see how much sov you took of smash. At least when we went we got 1 system. So now you want to talk big...after we leave...where were you when we were in local??? Quiet as a mouse...I was there everyday...not one appearance of the mighty Peoke, not one... Now RA has blued you again, you come out from under your rock...guess you are feeling a little more secure...
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.28 19:10:00 - [209] Cant speak on peoke's behalf for when you were around Wes, but the day we reset RA he was FC'ing multiple fleets, albeit in a terribly fit rapier but he was there on the frontlines leading us, so that claim is a bit silly ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
Wesley Baird D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.28 19:16:00 - [210] Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan Cant speak on peoke's behalf for when you were around Wes, but the day we reset RA he was FC'ing multiple fleets, albeit in a terribly fit rapier but he was there on the frontlines leading us, so that claim is a bit silly Against Tri?
SpankMeElmo Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.28 19:17:00 - [211] Was just a training op anyway. GF Tri. GF MC. GF XIX, mothf*ers. (smile)
Alita Tiphares Aztek Industries	Posted - 2008.03.28 19:19:00 - [212] This is really interesting.. didnt Seleene step down as MC ceo though? maybe thats why things are going the way they are
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.28 19:24:00 - [213] Originally by: Wesley Baird Against Tri? I was referring to your comment about him coming out of hiding now that SDG left ra and ra is blue again. When I said "cant speak for when you were around" I was referring to Tri as a whole, not just you. Sorry that wasnt very clear :p ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
Darkrydar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.28 19:33:00 - [214] Nice lame thread, hardly worthy of a brag over. We saw what Smash could do when they attacked Y-2. You managed to win a few battles on your home turf. It's so rare you must have felt compelled to make a brag post over it. Did you guys honestly blue up RA again? MC made a bad decision a while back, no denying that. They should have known better tbh. That being said there are a lot of good guys in MC I hope they get things back on track. [orange]Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 2400
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 19:46:00 - [215] When TRI was attackin BWF, Solar Dragons and buddys were attacking 9iz. So if fleets seemed smaller it was because there was 2-3 of em going around. On one sunday, i went to 9iz then bwf, then 3-jg, then Diz and eneded back in 9iz at the end of the day. I got alot of people i like to blow up so i dont have time to be in one system 23/7. As for low morale in the intel channels, thats because someone posted a pic of peoke in a man thong and everyone was disgusted. We split into 2 camps and almost had a civil war. I was on the pro-manthong side and Graalum was against it. It almost tore us apart. I didnt get a chance to face off with MC due to the 9iz campaign but i have fought them in the past. They are a fearsome enemys and it seems they are down on their luck lately. Hopefully they can pull it back together and come back stronger. I need isk. Give it to meh [IMG]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/
Dray Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.28 19:57:00 - [216] Originally by: Sevdah Originally by: Dray I dont suppose the guy who took out the contract would care to pay us for our scrimmage against Smash/RK and friends, I know its after the fact but we can boast far better stats with the same tactics. HAHAHA, always very funny to read how TRI members boast about their skills. I hope we dont have to read a similar thread about TRI sometimes in the future. But you know what? If I learned one thing while playing this game for a long time now: We will read it. That is EVE. So here is my modified EVE-version of a popular worldly wisdom: The higher you "boast", the farther you "fail". Boast or not its a fact.
Prez21 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.28 19:59:00 - [217] Originally by: Peoke To darkness bwf isnt the home of smashkill. maybe if you had your caps in the heart of geminate or your fleet. not able to jump out when your outnumbered and your kb eff will get hurt. Of the stuff i posted here the only thing that holds true are these. 1) Mc's ego and gloating days are gone for Now 2) Mc fought better and actually didnt deagress and jump out like tri always do. 3) Fastest mc guy in a nano ship is a 1/4 as fast as tri is running to airaken. 4) Darkness when you wake up look at maps and see how much sov you took of smash. At least when we went we got 1 system. So us jumping into bwf, kicking the crap out of you and getting out before you could blob us shows that MC who stayed to fight and lost are better than us? And when you guys got spanked in 4u9 on your pittyful attempt to take our space you claimed smash had nothing to do with it, yet in point 4 you say you took one of our systems, seeems like youve changed your mind. Lets face it your an idiot
Sevdah Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.03.28 20:30:00 - [218] Originally by: Dray Boast or not its a fact. Its a fact, in YOUR with pink fluffy bunnies bedecked world of course!
Dray Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.28 20:49:00 - [219] Originally by: Sevdah Originally by: Dray Boast or not its a fact. Its a fact, in YOUR with pink fluffy bunnies bedecked world of course! Yeah pink fluffy bunnies in my world and still inspite of this overwelming cuteness, not to mention clouds that look like unicorns, its still a fact...
SugarDaddy Comando Vermelho R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.28 20:50:00 - [220] Dear mom, im in another smashkill topic where TRI HAS to come and talk shi t about their "skills". Mom, Do you remeber back in 2003 when I started to play this game and ppl used stabs to run from fights? It was funny...but nowaday ppl use speed to run out of combat...and they are proud of it 1!!!1 BTW, mom, MC is atacking us atm, not sure how long will until contract expires. Tell dad to stop playing Wow and I wont be able to call him this weekend cause I have to play. With love, Sugardaddy
tchamp2 Veni Vidi Vici. XIII Legio	Posted - 2008.03.28 21:01:00 - [221] Dear Lord -- the day has arrived -- I agree with Tri and former MDK in saying that peoke is not only a tool, a fool and a rather annoyingly girl voiced fellow BUT also a total paper tiger. In all my (sad) time in Smash I never once saw peoke fighting on the lines. TBH, that type of leadership is why I gave up on Geminate and start low-sec'ing. Thank goodness those dark days are behind me. I'm by no means the best PvP'er in EVE, not even close, but I've at least lost my fair share of ships defending my own people. Even when the chances were extremely low of success. Peoke just sits back and talks like he's the total ****nit and all the while does so with his metrosexual voice. EVE - just like the first woman - too addictive to deny.
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.28 21:57:00 - [222] Didnt you get kicked from smash? lol ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
Master OlavPancrazio Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.03.28 21:58:00 - [223] Does Peoke's voice actually sound girly? Yes or no?
General Windypops Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2008.03.28 23:03:00 - [224] Originally by: Gloomy Gus Proper spin can matter a lot more than actual victories because it keeps your pilots logging in. That's not true. I win almost every single forum battle I warp into, but I've not logged on in months :( ~-= Winner of the COAD Buns of Steel award, 2006 and 2007 =-~
Miss Behavin Strangers With Candy	Posted - 2008.03.28 23:16:00 - [225] Edited by: Miss Behavin on 28/03/2008 23:16:44 Peoke is probably 14 or something. Mother: "... are you *** ready?" Peoke: "No, I'm not ** <unintelligible>" Mother: "Get a ***** move on it" Peoke with open mic on ts
Todd Jaeger Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.28 23:23:00 - [226] Edited by: Todd Jaeger on 28/03/2008 23:24:05
Peoke Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 23:29:00 - [227] thats my sister get it right. and you trying to proove what that i dont play eve because RL gets in the way. or i suck because i have a RL
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 23:47:00 - [228] i love you peoke for who you are I need isk. Give it to meh [IMG]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/
Talen Reaper BladeRunners INC	Posted - 2008.03.28 23:49:00 - [229] wow so confessor is in MC wondered were that EX SPARTA FC went to
Zarquon Beeblebrox Muchacho's	Posted - 2008.03.29 00:15:00 - [230] MC is good at what they do. And if they have had a little setback? Rest assure, MC will come back stronger then ever. And it's that ability that divide the good from the bad. Lady Beeblebrox Tundragon & Teddybears Memorial Forum
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.29 00:38:00 - [231] Originally by: Zarquon Beeblebrox MC is good at what they do. And if they have had a little setback? Rest assure, MC will come back stronger then ever. And it's that ability that divide the good from the bad. Is that the real you, Zarquon? Can I have my corpse from Syndicate '04 back? - Tortuga: Lacrimosa
Tyrrax Thorrk Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.03.29 00:41:00 - [232] Yeah he returned (again) a week or two ago.
Lowa North Star Networks Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.29 00:46:00 - [233] What. is. TRI. doing. in. this. thread? I mean, its wasnt like it needed the extra fuel? And zomg beeblebrox! \o/ /Lowa
Viper ShizzIe The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.29 01:14:00 - [234] Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a ***** tool elsewhere.
Dungar Loghoth Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.03.29 01:18:00 - [235] Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a ***** tool elsewhere. just going to quote this here ---
Viper ShizzIe The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.29 01:33:00 - [236] Edited by: Viper **zIe on 29/03/2008 01:35:51 Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Wrong alt? logs on Nope.
Pnuka GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.29 01:36:00 - [237] Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr logs on Nope. Can I join your mutiny?
Oniko Sengir The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.29 01:36:00 - [238] Originally by: Viper **zIe Edited by: Viper **zIe on 29/03/2008 01:35:51 Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Wrong alt? logs on Nope. Whelp... Latest Video
Faekurias Federation Fleet Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2008.03.29 01:38:00 - [239] I was told there as caek in this thread, hand it over. Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected]
Kryztal Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.29 02:24:00 - [240] Rofl.... this post makes me giggle. Not so big and powerful now are you, Thats what happens when you step out of your more powerful former friends shadow. MC were on top when you had good friends backing you up, too bad MC didnt have neither the backbone nor the stamina to have our back when we needed it. We are still going strong though which is more then i can say about MC atm :P KARMA IS A "FEMALE DOG" :P - WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU ! -
matty01 Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.03.29 02:46:00 - [241] Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a ***** tool elsewhere. tell us how you really feel
Koronos Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.29 03:09:00 - [242] Originally by: tchamp2 Dear Lord -- the day has arrived -- I agree with Tri and former MDK in saying that peoke is not only a tool, a fool and a rather annoyingly girl voiced fellow BUT also a total paper tiger. In all my (sad) time in Smash I never once saw peoke fighting on the lines. TBH, that type of leadership is why I gave up on Geminate and start low-sec'ing. Thank goodness those dark days are behind me. I'm by no means the best PvP'er in EVE, not even close, but I've at least lost my fair share of ships defending my own people. Even when the chances were extremely low of success. Peoke just sits back and talks like he's the total ****nit and all the while does so with his metrosexual voice. Lots of poasts to smack in this thread, but I'm choosing this one. First off, everyone knows Peoke is an arrogant annoying tool, we don't need you to agree to it. Second, L M F A O at this line "In all my (sad) time in Smash I never once saw peoke fighting on the lines." Let's see, how many ways to smack this post? Hmm, lets start with the easy part, THATS BECAUSE YOU WERENT THERE EITHER. Ahm, next "all my time"? Without logging into game I'm guessing that was what, a month? If it's more than that, see smack point one and raise it. Finally, I've flown against or with Peoke for I dunno I guess three and a half years or so? He's a talented tempest pilot and a better covert, and while he's not in every battle, I'd guess you don't have the first clue how much time and effort and annoyance it takes to run an alliance. Bottom line m8, you may not be deserving of this smack, and gg to you if you do actually defend your own people, but don't think you know Peoke.
Viper ShizzIe The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.29 03:24:00 - [243] Edited by: Viper **zIe on 29/03/2008 03:24:16 Originally by: matty01 tell us how you really feel OSHI-
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.03.29 04:03:00 - [244] Originally by: Viper **zIe Edited by: Viper **zIe on 29/03/2008 03:24:16 Originally by: matty01 tell us how you really feel OSHI- welp ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Voculus E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.03.29 04:08:00 - [245] Originally by: Kryztal Rofl.... this post makes me giggle. Not so big and powerful now are you, Thats what happens when you step out of your more powerful former friends shadow. MC were on top when you had good friends backing you up, too bad MC didnt have neither the backbone nor the stamina to have our back when we needed it. We are still going strong though which is more then i can say about MC atm :P KARMA IS A "FEMALE DOG" :P Speaking of female dogs... _________________________________________________________
MissWindypops B0bettes	Posted - 2008.03.29 04:40:00 - [246] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Gloomy Gus Proper spin can matter a lot more than actual victories because it keeps your pilots logging in. That's not true. I win almost every single forum battle I warp into, but I've not logged on in months :( Hopefully thats because of me DEAR
Hey Guy Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.29 04:50:00 - [247] Extra Extra Potatoes cause brain damage
Nhoj Sllew Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.29 04:59:00 - [248] Originally by: Hey Guy Extra Extra Potatoes cause brain damage I RP EWOK
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.29 05:13:00 - [249] I love you guys, all of you. ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.29 05:30:00 - [250] i love boobs and hostiles that actualy fight. I need isk. Give it to meh [IMG]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/
pershphanie Deadly Addiction Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.03.29 05:33:00 - [251] Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a ***** tool elsewhere. best thread ever. (pwnd btw)
Pinza Point-Zero SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.29 06:01:00 - [252] Originally by: Darknesss Smashkill will probably flame me greatly for this but who cares, lets be honest you havent fought off loads of major attacks from alot of powerful entities, many entities have never made a serious push at your space. When we were down there your morale was down the shi**er yes we do have spies, i have a spy and your intel channels were littered with smack towards eachother, your fleet capability had shrunk by atleast half, infact by the end we were able to get a larger fleet together on our own than your 4 powers could. So why didn't we take it further? why did we not attack your POS's? well the answer is quite simple, engaging in that kind of warfare these days results in no fun, it results in both sides losing, even if in the end it would have been a victory it would drain us much like the southern war has drained alot of other powers, raise your hand if you enjoy POS warfare when the system has 5-10 minute module lag, where your capitals cannot siege a tower without major desync. I remember one time we took your jammer down with about 20 carriers, it took us about 30 minutes AFTER the jammer went down to get the capitals out because of lag and desync. This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. MC are still a good power, and its a shame they got off to a bad start because that will reduce their numbers in an already unbalanced (number wise) war. I actually loled when I read this. Please let it be known to everyone that taking BWF- is the secret to smashkill's demise.
xRazoRx	Posted - 2008.03.29 09:43:00 - [253] Originally by: dastommy79 i love boobs and hostiles that actualy ~~fight~~ lose. Hello sunshine. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Tearavygh Quillam	Posted - 2008.03.29 10:22:00 - [254] Originally by: Fendragun Tearing up the north is a sporting tour for most alliances. But, nothing compares to the "We're not defending 5 regions" sport.
Shin Ra BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:04:00 - [255] Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a ***** tool elsewhere. fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight
Orange Species	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:19:00 - [256] Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Originally by: Fendragun Tearing up the north is a sporting tour for most alliances. But, nothing compares to the "We're not defending 5 regions" sport. Yet we still have more stations than RAZOR! Even after losing all those regions we still have more than you have ever had. lulz. ------------- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
local United Logistics Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:33:00 - [257] Originally by: dastommy79 i love boobs and hostiles that actualy fight. ive heared impass has alot of dudes that always wanna fight. go there
AlternateAlt McAlty AlternateAlt McAlty House of Noobish Altness	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:37:00 - [258] Originally by: Alita Tiphares This is really interesting.. didnt Seleene step down as MC ceo though? maybe thats why things are going the way they are Yea, and apparantly the last few contract (fake) fees were paid in potatoes - thats what you get with Dri Kulsane in charge perhaps?...
Zarquon Beeblebrox Muchacho's	Posted - 2008.03.29 12:21:00 - [259] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Zarquon Beeblebrox MC is good at what they do. And if they have had a little setback? Rest assure, MC will come back stronger then ever. And it's that ability that divide the good from the bad. Is that the real you, Zarquon? Can I have my corpse from Syndicate '04 back? Its is me =) And about that corpse, NO! I have it tucked away next to your scorpions mini-model :) Lady Beeblebrox Tundragon & Teddybears Memorial Forum
Nizar	Posted - 2008.03.29 12:57:00 - [260] 9 pages and still running. nice Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Victor Vision	Posted - 2008.03.29 13:08:00 - [261] Originally by: Kryztal Rofl.... this post makes me giggle. Not so big and powerful now are you, Thats what happens when you step out of your more powerful former friends shadow. MC were on top when you had good friends backing you up, too bad MC didnt have neither the backbone nor the stamina to have our back when we needed it. We are still going strong though which is more then i can say about MC atm :P KARMA IS A "FEMALE DOG" :P Haha Kryztal, for once I agree with you. Also nice sig. VERY nice sig EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki
Razvic	Posted - 2008.03.29 13:40:00 - [262] Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a ***** tool elsewhere. wow... I thought darkness was the leader of tri... What wrong darkness? Dont have a grip on your members? You must be a crappy leader.
Evil Edna	Posted - 2008.03.29 13:41:00 - [263] Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a ***** tool elsewhere. quote if ur down Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Lowa North Star Networks Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.29 14:13:00 - [264] Originally by: Evil Edna Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a ***** tool elsewhere. quote if ur down Impossible to resist! Content is of no real importance, just wanted to chill with Edna. <3 /Lowa
Vagra Gods Unwanted	Posted - 2008.03.29 14:13:00 - [265] Any merc outfit that feels the need to own a little part of 0.0 needs to get out of the business. Contract killing is all that should concern any professional killing service. Mistakes have been made and are still being made. So FIX them. ---------------- ----------------
GO MaZ	Posted - 2008.03.29 16:07:00 - [266] Originally by: Lowa Originally by: Evil Edna Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a *** tool elsewhere. quote if ur down Impossible to resist! Content is of no real importance, just wanted to chill with Edna. <3 /Lowa This. Posting about what could've been is neither here nor there. Just because people in TRI don't 150% agree with Darknesss doesn't mean TRI is down the **ter, funnily enough
dastommy79	Posted - 2008.03.29 17:36:00 - [267] Originally by: xRazoRx Originally by: dastommy79 i love boobs and hostiles that actualy ~~fight~~ lose. Hello sunshine. Morning buttercup. I need isk. Give it to meh [IMG]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/
Map Screen Flat Earth Society Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2008.03.29 20:51:00 - [268] Originally by: GO MaZ Originally by: Lowa Originally by: Evil Edna Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a *** tool elsewhere. This. Posting about what could've been is neither here nor there. Just because people in TRI don't 150% agree with Darknesss doesn't mean TRI is down the **ter, funnily enough F10
General Windypops Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2008.03.29 21:16:00 - [269] Originally by: MissWindypops Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Gloomy Gus Proper spin can matter a lot more than actual victories because it keeps your pilots logging in. That's not true. I win almost every single forum battle I warp into, but I've not logged on in months :( Hopefully thats because of me DEAR Neat! My 2nd internet stalker! ~-= Winner of the COAD Buns of Steel award, 2006 and 2007 =-~
Prez21	Posted - 2008.03.29 22:13:00 - [270] Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a *** tool elsewhere. Shut the ** up Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.30 06:28:00 - [271] seleene has no rl boobs I need isk. Give it to meh [IMG]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/
Darklin Eldaris Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2008.03.30 09:25:00 - [272] Tbqfh. Whoever said you can go into RK space and survive the onslaught is totally right. My corp, Einherjar Rising, and Multiversal Enterprise Inc did this nightly a few months back, with maybe 20-40 guys a night. We repeatedly sat on our entry gate slugging it out with wave after wave of their reinforcements (there are a holy-motherf*ck-ton of them), eventually popping wrecks and de-aggroing/jumping out or warping off to a safe to play around a bit more. At first, they were total lambs to the slaughter (like I've never seen before), but over time they collectively became a bit more itchy with their jump bridge trigger fingers. They were, after 2-3 months, able to make it enough of a pain for us to hunt there that we felt the need to move on. However, during this time our combined forces were able to down a Pure. mothership, a SMASH mothership, 10 carriers, a dread, and 3 freighters as well as a HUGE amount of lesser ships. My corps personal ratio v smash/rk/friends was 1400 kils / 53 losses I won't put it past SMASH/RK to have wizened up and become a scarier more notable force in EVE (we all were once noobs), but to stand there and say you can't go up against them in a fleet (being MC and all) is honestly crazy talk. If this is all true I would have to say either MC has not fully commited to this op, or (short of their cap ships) they have indeed fallen off the wagon a bit.
Hermosa Diosas The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2008.03.30 11:17:00 - [273] Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a ***** tool elsewhere. Lol epic fail - you got your coat yet? Before you got kicked out...
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2008.03.30 12:59:00 - [274] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 30/03/2008 13:00:17 Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a ***** tool elsewhere. Lol epic fail - you got your coat yet? Before you got kicked out... that doesnt warrent a kick. There is this feature of our western society that we are all entitled to: Freedom of Speech. If viper wants to make a valid point (albeit OTT), this is a forum and thus it is his right. Jeez. i hope darknesss doesnt start campaigning behind the curtains for his removal over something so small as a forum debate - im sure he is not so.. quick to judge. eh D? Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Hermosa Diosas	Posted - 2008.03.30 13:09:00 - [275] Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 30/03/2008 13:09:30 Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 30/03/2008 13:00:17 that doesnt warrent a kick. There is this feature of our western society that we are all entitled to: Freedom of Speech. If viper wants to make a valid point (albeit OTT), this is a forum and thus it is his right. Jeez. i hope darknesss doesnt start campaigning behind the curtains for his removal over something so small as a forum debate - im sure he is not so.. quick to judge. eh D? Well i have to disagree - theres freedom of speech and well slagging of his alliance leader and his views in public - its just isnt done imo. So to me yes its warrants a big kick with a large boot. Sorry OP off topic and wont post again
Rockbox	Posted - 2008.03.30 22:07:00 - [276] Edited by: Rockbox on 30/03/2008 22:11:38 Originally by: Evil Edna Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Darknesss This is not to say we would have definitely won, but i think we were definitely in one of the best positions to lay a final blow on smashkill, but no we didn't want to damage our alliance to do it. Until these issues are resolved I dont think many powers will engage in territorial attack and if they do they will probably get kicked in the head. Great job hijacking a thread not even about you. Here's a cluepon, no one gives a ** about what we could have done to Smashkill; the truth is, we didn't. Your post is unnecessary and tbh, completely out of line. We have no part in this conflict at all and your posting about how epic TRI are just lowered what everyone thinks of the entity amazingly. Be a ***** tool elsewhere. quote if ur down C. signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link to the image URL) - Jacques([email protected])
Dec V Virulence. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.30 23:10:00 - [277] darth would kick our asses if we pulled something like that lol, not that we would, we are loyal servants of darth Hail Darth!
Setana Manoro Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.31 00:37:00 - [278] Originally by: Peoke 2008.03.27 17:27 SMASH contract results: Upto to date efficencies Smash 29.94% Rk 38.22% And the rest of anyone 52.91% --- Quote: Originally Posted by Enosh Kerrim -=SERA=- RR BS OP - Wednesday 19:00 numbers were **ty tonight, lets form up tomorrow again. <fit u ships propper ,read the fitting forums . So make sure u have u RR Bs ready tomorrow cya there - Enosh --- Quote: Originally Posted by Enosh Kerrim -=SERA=- mmh we had 13 RR BS in gang. This doesn't let us look good :-(. Perhaps it its time to cancel the contract.** --- Quote: Originally Posted by Zakma They brought 30+ BS and 30+ support. If we had the numbers it could've been a decent fight. Pretty pathetic turnout. ---- 2008.03.27 17:29 Quote: Originally Posted by Myndpyre They SHOWED you 30+30, they probably had another 30+30 sitting somewhere on a jump bridge ready to engage within 5 minutes if that fight started. Any large scale organized fleet fights against these guys is a losing situation from the start. --- Quote: Originally Posted by Zakma By the time those other people warped in we would've killed enough. Also, we had a option of simply disengaging and jumping out. We actually probably would've engaged had they not warped in the 2 moms the first time. 2008.03.27 17:30 Quote: Originally Posted by Myndpyre We've done the fleet fights with these guys 3 or 4 times now bro. Each time they bring in a lot more once the fight starts, and we "kill enough", "lose enough" and then disengage to let them win the fight, meaning . . . we lose. So I stand by my original statement, to actively look for a fight with smashkill with a fleet is a losing situation from the start. ---- Quote: Originally Posted by Zakma I disagree. PURE and Hydra had a lot of numbers as well. In the end with big RR BS gangs you can retreat pretty safely even with huge numbers chasing you as long as you know the limits of your fleet and the tactical situation you're in. Anyway, the next contract like this that we get we'll make some adjustments. Especially in developed 0.0 space with a lot of jammers and bridges. 2008.03.27 17:31 Quote: Originally Posted by AIRB (ETNY) asking in teh grill for gang info starting at 0700 and not one answer sorry but that is weak for us being on a contract also had over 30 ppl in channel --- Quote: Originally Posted by Myndpyre Smack talk from MC pilots in that post once again makes us look like total asshats and confirm that we have lost our professionalism. It is no wonder why we have a ban on that forum, and the very single tread that we let people post in it again, people show they cannot be trusted and post smack and asshattery. --- Quote: Originally Posted by Confessor what has happened? Have we become the "common" pvp alliance you encounter in eve. I remember when fighting mc just one yer ago, professionalism, nice attitudes. I refuse to believe we've changed so much. It just shows that MC cannot both fight against BoB and take a big contract at the same time; it is a big galaxy and they are stretched, fighting on 2 powerfull fronts. If they had the just smashkill to deal with, then i don't think you would have won a single fight. Would be interesting how MC reacts to this. I wouldn't be surprised if put aside 2 weeks for the entire alliance to come up and kill everything, just to prove a point.
E Vile	Posted - 2008.03.31 11:47:00 - [279] Originally by: Hey Guy Extra Extra Potatoes cause brain damage Crap! I love potatoes! Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Trask Kilraen	Posted - 2008.03.31 11:54:00 - [280] Originally by: dastommy79 seleene has no rl boobs Way to kill my fantasy. Thanks *******. Setting you red forevah! ------------------------------------------ Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Proxay	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:04:00 - [281] Originally by: Setana Manoro It just shows that MC cannot both fight against BoB and take a big contract at the same time; it is a big galaxy and they are stretched, fighting on 2 powerfull fronts. If they had the just smashkill to deal with, then i don't think you would have won a single fight. Would be interesting how MC reacts to this. I wouldn't be surprised if put aside 2 weeks for the entire alliance to come up and kill everything, just to prove a point. MC are not engaged in combat against Band of Brothers at the moment, nor any noticeable battles where a significant portion of their forces were rerouted to fight Band of Brothers during the SmashKill contract. Mercenary Coalition has always been a capable group, but I must remind people that in noticeable conflicts, they have had "support" friends for taking on larger alliances (FIX + Various entities in Catch, YouWhat and other entities up north). They personally have not gone toe to toe with a large "blob" alliance (Blob used in the sense their member base #'s vs Yours). I'm not saying they're not capable, I just believe that this isn't the right fight for their skills/talents, and would require more finesse. That said, trying to be innovative doesn't really work in large scale combat, in smaller skirmishes, it may pay off, but when you're doing battleship fleet vs battleship fleet, and trying to hold range at 190km, you're just wasting time, ships and morale. While "Zomg Fleet fights" are "2005", they're the staple for combat, discipline, understanding, micro-management (Keeping various groups assigned to other forces targets) and Fleet command abilities. Practice makes perfect, and the Mercenary Coalition knows this better than most... Time will tell as always, but this performance is indeed, sub-standard. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. If you're going to remove a signature, at least make sure it's got something that breaks the EULA, k-ta.
Hohne	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:15:00 - [282] Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Well i have to disagree - theres freedom of speech and well slagging of his alliance leader and his views in public - its just isnt done imo. You realise you're saying this in a Peoke thread ? The irony is just....
Tearavygh Quillam	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:18:00 - [283] Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Originally by: Fendragun Tearing up the north is a sporting tour for most alliances. But, nothing compares to the "We're not defending 5 regions" sport. Yet we still have more stations than RAZOR! Even after losing all those regions we still have more than you have ever had. lulz. lulz. Get it straight. I don't wanna be BoB.
xRazoRx	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:36:00 - [284] stop derailing MC vs smashkill thread to Tri vs smashkill or BoB vs "90% of eve" plz :S Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Proxay	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:41:00 - [285] Originally by: xRazoRx stop derailing MC vs smashkill thread to Tri vs smashkill or BoB vs "90% of eve" plz :S NEW OAR Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Maybe we're recruiting, I don't know, spam eve-mails to Daniel Zorg, and go into a coma for a week.
John Blackthorn Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.31 14:59:00 - [286] Edited by: John Blackthorn on 31/03/2008 15:01:49 I'll admit that when I heard MC were coming for a fight It did give me pause. However, at the moment my corp has a 92% efficiency against MC. Triumvirate on the other hand were much much harder to fight. My corp efficiency against Triumvirate were only 52%. And while I could not pull up the alliance efficiency I'm sure it was lower than that. And while Tri did kill quite a few ships including capitals we had a large fight in bwf and had two of there four mother ships into structure when the system crashed saving there ships.. sigh.. and that was the end of tri. They pulled out and left after that. -John Blackthorn Foundation CEO
Bo Bojangles Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.31 17:26:00 - [287] I don't know much about MC save from I know they have alot of history and are/were a very much feared Alliance, but they've had their split from Bob recently which has to have had some effect on them, and they had to travel up here, fight us on our own ground, and looking at their reputation, the fleet I saw was nowhere near what they could've actually fielded. Still, was nice having someone a completely different yet organized fleet to shoot at. Props to them. They flew right into Gem like they owned the place, parked in front of a station and said, "Yo,.. open up!" We did,.. Thanks fer the mails. To the other entities most notably Tri and EHR, I can't speak for the rest of the guys but as for me,.. yeah, you're right. Whatever skills I might have was forged offa the heat of your blasters. Now stop actin' all jealous of MC's little visit and let's go pew pew!! \o/
philojones	Posted - 2008.03.31 18:55:00 - [288] Originally by: Darklin Eldaris Tbqfh. Whoever said you can go into RK space and survive the onslaught is totally right. My corp, Einherjar Rising, and Multiversal Enterprise Inc did this nightly a few months back, with maybe 20-40 guys a night. We repeatedly sat on our entry gate slugging it out with wave after wave of their reinforcements (there are a holy-motherf*ck-ton of them), eventually popping wrecks and de-aggroing/jumping out or warping off to a safe to play around a bit more. At first, they were total lambs to the slaughter (like I've never seen before), but over time they collectively became a bit more itchy with their jump bridge trigger fingers. They were, after 2-3 months, able to make it enough of a pain for us to hunt there that we felt the need to move on. However, during this time our combined forces were able to down a Pure. mothership, a SMASH mothership, 10 carriers, a dread, and 3 freighters as well as a HUGE amount of lesser ships. My corps personal ratio v smash/rk/friends was 1400 kils / 53 losses I won't put it past SMASH/RK to have wizened up and become a scarier more notable force in EVE (we all were once noobs), but to stand there and say you can't go up against them in a fleet (being MC and all) is honestly crazy talk. If this is all true I would have to say either MC has not fully commited to this op, or (short of their cap ships) they have indeed fallen off the wagon a bit. Lolwtf? Sorry, you are? SMASH lost a Mothership? You, my friend, could do with backing this up with Killmails mate. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Mah Bess Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:15:00 - [289] Edited by: Mah Bess on 31/03/2008 19:17:03 Originally by: philojones Originally by: Darklin Eldaris self ************ Lolwtf? Sorry, you are? SMASH lost a Mothership? You, my friend, could do with backing this up with Killmails mate. well actually, they did. I believe it was from the same corp as that veni vedi macro corp. Some numbnut solo camping in akora with a nyx. However its not in this guys defense as I generally ignore people who like randomly pop into threads that have nothing to do with them just stroke their phallic egos such as this bucko or Mr Darkness earlier, or pretty much every post by xRazorx. The kind of people who like to lock themselves in the closet and fart just to enjoy their own stench. Congratulations! Start your own thread and jerk yourselves off in there.
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:15:00 - [290] Originally by: John Blackthorn Edited by: John Blackthorn on 31/03/2008 15:01:49 I'll admit that when I heard MC were coming for a fight It did give me pause. However, at the moment my corp has a 92% efficiency against MC. Triumvirate on the other hand were much much harder to fight. My corp efficiency against Triumvirate were only 52%. And while I could not pull up the alliance efficiency I'm sure it was lower than that. And while Tri did kill quite a few ships including capitals we had a large fight in bwf and had two of there four mother ships into structure when the system crashed saving there ships.. sigh.. and that was the end of tri. They pulled out and left after that. -John Blackthorn Foundation CEO Do not repeat redswarm's mistakes next time plox.
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:21:00 - [291] Yep, those tri moms would have been ours if it werent for our shuttle swarms and noob frigs. ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
John Blackthorn Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:23:00 - [292] When the smash pilot was camping akora gate the ceo/exec's kept telling the guy not too. And the responce we got back from the guy was that he had bought the ship with his own isk and that he no longer wanted his character trapped in the nyx. Many of us asked him to change his mind but he said he wanted to see the real capability of the ship. I was over in bwf with a gang when he got locked up with the heavy dictor and we were going to come over to assist but was told.. don't worry about it, don't want you to come.. But even if we did go I don't think the outcome would have changed due to the mass of dps the nyx was taking. They were setup to take him out. Originally by: Mah Bess Edited by: Mah Bess on 31/03/2008 19:17:03 Originally by: philojones Originally by: Darklin Eldaris self ************ Lolwtf? Sorry, you are? SMASH lost a Mothership? You, my friend, could do with backing this up with Killmails mate. well actually, they did. I believe it was from the same corp as that veni vedi macro corp. Some numbnut solo camping in akora with a nyx. However its not in this guys defense as I generally ignore people who like randomly pop into threads that have nothing to do with them just stroke their phallic egos such as this bucko or Mr Darkness earlier, or pretty much every post by xRazorx. The kind of people who like to lock themselves in the closet and fart just to enjoy their own stench. Congratulations! Start your own thread and jerk yourselves off in there.
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:26:00 - [293] Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan Yep, those tri moms would have been ours if it werent for our shuttle swarms and noob frigs. Dunno about shuttles but your ships could do much better with appropriate t2 fittings, so you would need less ppl to win a fight. Am i right or right?
John Blackthorn	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:34:00 - [294] Anyone understand what this guy is talking about? I don't... Originally by: xRazoRx Originally by: John Blackthorn Edited by: John Blackthorn on 31/03/2008 15:01:49 I'll admit that when I heard MC were coming for a fight It did give me pause. However, at the moment my corp has a 92% efficiency against MC. Triumvirate on the other hand were much much harder to fight. My corp efficiency against Triumvirate were only 52%. And while I could not pull up the alliance efficiency I'm sure it was lower than that. And while Tri did kill quite a few ships including capitals we had a large fight in bwf and had two of there four mother ships into structure when the system crashed saving there ships.. sigh.. and that was the end of tri. They pulled out and left after that. -John Blackthorn Foundation CEO Do not repeat redswarm's mistakes next time plox.
Oofig VanDoogan	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:43:00 - [295] Hes insinuating that we brought a lot of useless t1 ships to the field against the tri moms, which lead to the servers crashing instead of us bringing less people in better ships which would have theoretically given us the kills. ---------------------------------------------- Full circle. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Mah Bess	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:53:00 - [296] Originally by: John Blackthorn Anyone understand what this guy is talking about? I don't... Originally by: xRazoRx nonsense I try to skip any of his posts as they are generally non constructive needling comments pointed and inciting anger. He's like the little obnoxious kid in the back of the classroom who spends the day shooting spitwads.
Wesley Baird	Posted - 2008.03.31 20:00:00 - [297] Originally by: Mah Bess I try to skip any of his posts as they are generally non constructive needling comments pointed and inciting anger. He's like the little obnoxious kid in the back of the classroom who spends the day shooting spitwads. Actually alot of what he says makes sense...whether you want to believe it or not... Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Oofig VanDoogan	Posted - 2008.03.31 20:13:00 - [298] Wes I think you'll agree, if you heard on your intel or ts that you guys had 3 of our super caps tackled, youd bust ass over to where it was at in any ship you had (your best of course, but still). I know Angel mentioned an incident where a smash guy was ejecting shuttles, which by the way every other member of smashkill did NOT condone, but that wasnt when we were hitting the moms. Me personally, I was in BWF in a pod when the epic node crash happened because it would take me 10min to load pos (another pos, where the fight wasnt happening lol) so I could grab my ship. As soon as I approached the SMA, I would ewarp off. Happened 3 times lol ---------------------------------------------- Full circle. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
XxAngelxX The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.31 20:25:00 - [299] Bygones.. So yeah, who's next to visit BWF? -A-? --------------------------------------
MAXSuicide Quam Singulari Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.31 20:29:00 - [300] Originally by: philojones Originally by: Darklin Eldaris Tbqfh. Whoever said you can go into RK space and survive the onslaught is totally right. My corp, Einherjar Rising, and Multiversal Enterprise Inc did this nightly a few months back, with maybe 20-40 guys a night. We repeatedly sat on our entry gate slugging it out with wave after wave of their reinforcements (there are a holy-motherf*ck-ton of them), eventually popping wrecks and de-aggroing/jumping out or warping off to a safe to play around a bit more. At first, they were total lambs to the slaughter (like I've never seen before), but over time they collectively became a bit more itchy with their jump bridge trigger fingers. They were, after 2-3 months, able to make it enough of a pain for us to hunt there that we felt the need to move on. However, during this time our combined forces were able to down a Pure. mothership, a SMASH mothership, 10 carriers, a dread, and 3 freighters as well as a HUGE amount of lesser ships. My corps personal ratio v smash/rk/friends was 1400 kils / 53 losses I won't put it past SMASH/RK to have wizened up and become a scarier more notable force in EVE (we all were once noobs), but to stand there and say you can't go up against them in a fleet (being MC and all) is honestly crazy talk. If this is all true I would have to say either MC has not fully commited to this op, or (short of their cap ships) they have indeed fallen off the wagon a bit. Lolwtf? Sorry, you are? SMASH lost a Mothership? You, my friend, could do with backing this up with Killmails mate. someone's been living under a rock..
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.31 20:29:00 - [301] -A-, or more actually Dark Nights of Daheeb send the occasional roaming gang through Gem, but I havent seen em recently. Usually its just a few of em :D ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
Porgy Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.03.31 20:33:00 - [302] Originally by: Wesley Baird [ Actually alot of what he says makes sense...whether you want to believe it or not... actually, its generally just a lot of telling other people how to enjoy their game. _______________________

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