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Ecky X
Universal Securities
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Posted - 2008.04.18 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Arain Just a sour grapes comment but why do they set complexes up like this that can be spawned 24/7 and farmed for billions but they have to nerf missions to almost nothing to keep the evil mission runners from makeing a little cash.
Apparently there is now a reason to leave empire.
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Emeline Cabernet
Amarr Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.19 08:07:00 -
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ah now i understand a couple of outposts.. dear god that is alot of isk.
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Ruddger
Minmatar Omen Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.04.19 14:18:00 -
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Edited by: Ruddger on 19/04/2008 14:19:26 Tips and Tricks: How to deal with the farmers in your neck of the woods.
When a farmer sets up shop he is trespassing on your land. It may seem like a daunting task to boost him, but I assure you it can be done. Here are some techniques to make sure that he gets nothing for his trouble.
1. Its a race, and you have the home field advantage. The farmers start at the ***** of dawn, so you need to be too. (Seriously I cant say *****?) Right after DT is when you need to be probing for your radar plex. You may not have the best skills, or even competitive ones compared to your local expletive, but use this to your advantage. The farmer is after the overseer in the second room and he is likely in a recon. This means drones. When scanning for your sig also scan for ships and drones. The strength of even quest probes will give you a 0 hit on a drone in a plex.
2. You know what he is in, counter it. The farmer will be in a plexing ship. This means that he will have holes that you can fill with delicious damage. ALWAYS REMEMBER TO CARRY A SCRAM.
3. Speed is the key. The farmer is skipping the first room and so should you. Use an armor tanking HAC and fit an AB. This will give you enough speed and shield buffer to get to the gate and sill be combat effective by the time you arrive.
4. Probe ships are the weakest link. Recons and drakes are easily replaceable, and not very expensive. Probe ships need to be rigged out and will carry delicious faction scan launchers. These can also only be replaced in empire. Its not easy to kill one of these buggers, but it is possible. If you get to the site before your farmer, sit a smart bombing BS on the initial gate. The deadspace field will pull your farmer right on top of you and 3 or 4 smart bombs will make quick work of him.
5. This site is yours! Keep it that way. One technique that the farmer will use (and CCP allows) is sitting a cloaked ship inside the plex. This will prevent the plex from despawning even if the overseers are dead. Park one of your ships inside the plex cloaked until you are ready to run it again, or until DT so you can assure that he will not unfettered access to the respawns.
6. Don't let him know you are waiting for him. If you make it to the site first and kill the overseer, pop the wreck. This will make is confusing for the farmer to know if the site is still good or not and you can sit a cloaked recon on the warp in point in the 2nd room. Did someone order fricasseed farmer?
Using these tips and techniques I hope that all space holding capsulers can drive out the farmers who now plague the 8 broken constellations in eve.
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Skyblue
Karjala Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.19 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ruddger Park one of your ships inside the plex cloaked until you are ready to run it again, or until DT so you can assure that he will not unfettered access to the respawns.
The plex is still in same location even after DT?
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Deva Blackfire
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.19 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Skyblue
Originally by: Ruddger Park one of your ships inside the plex cloaked until you are ready to run it again, or until DT so you can assure that he will not unfettered access to the respawns.
The plex is still in same location even after DT?
It vanishes during DT
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Ace's wife
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Posted - 2008.04.19 19:31:00 -
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nope it doesnt vanish
it respawns after boss in 2nd lvl has been cleared and noone remains in plex 24/7
takes 20 mins to find it 20 mins to run it about 30 respawns p/d if planned well
and the magneto plex drops x-type stuff tho is a bit harder to run tho also respawns once finished
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Daishi Kurita
Illicit Technologies
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Posted - 2008.04.20 04:38:00 -
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Edited by: Daishi Kurita on 20/04/2008 04:38:52
Are you guys positive this complex respawns? I heard rumor that it was only once per day now, however it could just be that guy camping inside of it.
Does anyone have experience running it more then once per day in the recent past?
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Ace's wife
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Posted - 2008.04.20 05:21:00 -
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Edited by: Ace''s wife on 20/04/2008 05:21:49 24/7
instant respawn once boss in 2nd room is dead
avg 400mil p/r out of 100run's for the radar plex
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Luji Velika
Minmatar The Mint
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Posted - 2008.04.20 14:13:00 -
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Did some1 got thrown out of the complex and is now bitter? Why didnt you reveal this info before u accumulated this massive wealth? This is such an obvious attempt from a plex farmer that got thrown out, to make the next stronger plex farmers life more difficult. And no, the magneto site does not drop X-Type loot...
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Ace's wife
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Posted - 2008.04.20 22:38:00 -
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Edited by: Ace''s wife on 20/04/2008 22:44:26 there's no such thing as thrown out,
having 8 of these constelations to choose from, and yes i still frequently visit them, however being an explorer i think the things i pointed out in my 1st few posts make sence, like it being more fair if the loot output from these complex's would be spread over eve.
so in your face luji
ps if people where to look at your contract history they would know why i feel that way
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Red Thunder
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Posted - 2008.04.30 16:45:00 -
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just make it so they respawn after a set time regardless of if someone is inside it....would solve all the problems
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steejans nix
Amarr 0beron Construct
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Posted - 2008.05.01 12:18:00 -
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Also make them re-spawn in other constelations as if you know where within 6 systems it's not really exploration it's a race, as you'll have scanning bm's all set and ready to go. Rinse and repeat etc
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Twangy
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Posted - 2008.05.01 19:11:00 -
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I smell a bitter person who has been pushed out off his little cash cow and now wants to do anything to spoil it for people who have out played him. I know people who do this you are very dileberatly over exagerating the isk that comes from the plex and your estimates of the time you need to scan the plex are way off. You fail to point out that a lot of the time you get no drop from the plex and your decieving people about how hard the plex is to tank. I assume you are doing all this in an attempt to get ccp to "fix" the plex now you can't run it yourself.
There are some parts of 0.0 that if you have the ability and resources you can use to make a lot of isk. They are why people build alliances and try to hold space. These areas should be hotly contested and the victors should enjoy the rewards. The losers should either fight back or leave. Or just go to the forums and all but begg ccp to take away what they lacked the inteligenc power or balls to take themselves.
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Muellisa
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Posted - 2008.05.01 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Twangy I know people who do this you are very dileberatly over exagerating the isk that comes from the plex and your estimates of the time you need to scan the plex are way off. You fail to point out that a lot of the time you get no drop from the plex and your decieving people about how hard the plex is to tank. I assume you are doing all this in an attempt to get ccp to "fix" the plex now you can't run it yourself.
This plex is really easy to tank, 2 characters with 10m sp is more then enough. And if you have good scanning skills, sisters probe launcher and imp set you can have it in a 20 mins. Right after it takes less then 5 mins to kill the oversier.
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Asiel
Caldari The Baby Sitters
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Posted - 2008.05.02 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Twangy I smell a bitter person who has been pushed out off his little cash cow and now wants to do anything to spoil it for people who have out played him. I know people who do this you are very dileberatly over exagerating the isk that comes from the plex and your estimates of the time you need to scan the plex are way off. You fail to point out that a lot of the time you get no drop from the plex and your decieving people about how hard the plex is to tank. I assume you are doing all this in an attempt to get ccp to "fix" the plex now you can't run it yourself.
There are some parts of 0.0 that if you have the ability and resources you can use to make a lot of isk. They are why people build alliances and try to hold space. These areas should be hotly contested and the victors should enjoy the rewards. The losers should either fight back or leave. Or just go to the forums and all but begg ccp to take away what they lacked the inteligenc power or balls to take themselves.
I for one am a Solo player and yes did exploit the cosmos plex. however i think its mechanics suck big time. yes my alt is Ace's wife and im not related to jim hatesu i think however he was right posting the walkthru that way at least others know about it and can have a go.
compare the trouble that explorers have to go thru for some decent loot to the ease of this cosmos thing
and alliance's should hold space for roids not for hand outs from ccp.
you big bad conqueror you Twangy |
EvilNate
Caldari LIVE Reversed
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Posted - 2008.05.05 18:51:00 -
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Weird, off the wall question here, but do those gates accept carriers, dreads, mom's, or TITANS?
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Glassback
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.05.06 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: EvilNate Weird, off the wall question here, but do those gates accept carriers, dreads, mom's, or TITANS?
No, not for a long time.
Back when Dreads first came into the game, people used to sit in the last level of the 10/10's farming it with a Dread.
G.
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Qual
Gallente Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:02:00 -
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Ok, lets kill the sensationalism of this post. The avarage income for this is 200 to 400M pr. run. 3B require extreme luck. You can end up with no drops, and you need the hacking skill trained. That aside they are pretty nice. Expect to fight RA over them, as they are curretnly farming most of them...
"The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf |
Deva Blackfire
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Qual Ok, lets kill the sensationalism of this post. The avarage income for this is 200 to 400M pr. run. 3B require extreme luck. You can end up with no drops, and you need the hacking skill trained. That aside they are pretty nice. Expect to fight RA over them, as they are curretnly farming most of them...
And you can run em each 20-60 minutes compared to twice (once?) per day for old 10/10 plex.
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Spaztick
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Posted - 2008.05.07 00:50:00 -
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And here I was all excited over being able to get quick monies. :( But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post. |
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Qual
Gallente Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2008.05.07 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire
And you can run em each 20-60 minutes compared to twice (once?) per day for old 10/10 plex.
I love when people "forget" about most important part.
In theory, I guess you are right. I've never seen anyone (even RA guys) do it in less than 3h avarage though. Which is still nice, but I hate how people feel the need to exagerate just to get attention. The truth is bad enough, no need to improve on it.
"The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf |
syphurous
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.05.08 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: syphurous on 08/05/2008 01:14:12
Originally by: Spaztick But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
Yeah thats annoying isn't it.
Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
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Asiel
Caldari The Baby Sitters
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Posted - 2008.05.08 08:20:00 -
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Edited by: Asiel on 08/05/2008 08:23:26 In theory, I guess you are right. I've never seen anyone (even RA guys) do it in less than 3h avarage though. Which is still nice, but I hate how people feel the need to exagerate just to get attention. The truth is bad enough, no need to improve on it. quote)
you are wrong its 30 mins max to run it, and im sure about it :) and i doubt you have ever been near one or have seen anyone run em at all, oh and avg is a bit higher aswell for the complex's dropping gist a-type stuff maybe in delve or cloud ring where they drop crappy corpus stuff its lower
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Karicia
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:50:00 -
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"our records do not show a problem with our servers or with our game design.... it must be your own damn fault."
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Lil Mule
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Posted - 2008.05.08 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Asiel
Originally by: Twangy I smell a bitter person who has been pushed out off his little cash cow and now wants to do anything to spoil it for people who have out played him. I know people who do this you are very dileberatly over exagerating the isk that comes from the plex and your estimates of the time you need to scan the plex are way off. You fail to point out that a lot of the time you get no drop from the plex and your decieving people about how hard the plex is to tank. I assume you are doing all this in an attempt to get ccp to "fix" the plex now you can't run it yourself.
There are some parts of 0.0 that if you have the ability and resources you can use to make a lot of isk. They are why people build alliances and try to hold space. These areas should be hotly contested and the victors should enjoy the rewards. The losers should either fight back or leave. Or just go to the forums and all but begg ccp to take away what they lacked the inteligenc power or balls to take themselves.
I for one am a Solo player and yes did exploit the cosmos plex. however i think its mechanics suck big time. yes my alt is Ace's wife and im not related to jim hatesu i think however he was right posting the walkthru that way at least others know about it and can have a go.
compare the trouble that explorers have to go thru for some decent loot to the ease of this cosmos thing
and alliance's should hold space for roids not for hand outs from ccp.
you big bad conqueror you Twangy
Hey there skippy, perhaps you should actually live in a 0.0 alliance for a while that holds this kind of space before you whine. You dont have a concept of how much work it takes to hold that space, how many ships of yours get popped while being in a fleet battle, or the madatory mining op to replace the Alliance's Titan that just got popped etc. Living in 0.0 aint easy, and if there are some perks which allow us to regain our massive amounts of lost ISK due to war, then we deserve it, because we fight hard for our space. Additionally, divide 1 digi plex in 1 cosmos amogst 2000 fellow alliance members, and see how often you can actually get into it. Think before you post, its helpful. -----------------------------------------------
People enjoy flying Amarr for the same reason they like being tied up in leather, whipped and called names
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Asiel
Caldari The Baby Sitters
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Posted - 2008.05.08 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lil Mule
Originally by: Asiel
Originally by: Twangy I smell a bitter person who has been pushed out off his little cash cow and now wants to do anything to spoil it for people who have out played him. I know people who do this you are very dileberatly over exagerating the isk that comes from the plex and your estimates of the time you need to scan the plex are way off. You fail to point out that a lot of the time you get no drop from the plex and your decieving people about how hard the plex is to tank. I assume you are doing all this in an attempt to get ccp to "fix" the plex now you can't run it yourself.
There are some parts of 0.0 that if you have the ability and resources you can use to make a lot of isk. They are why people build alliances and try to hold space. These areas should be hotly contested and the victors should enjoy the rewards. The losers should either fight back or leave. Or just go to the forums and all but begg ccp to take away what they lacked the inteligenc power or balls to take themselves.
I for one am a Solo player and yes did exploit the cosmos plex. however i think its mechanics suck big time. yes my alt is Ace's wife and im not related to jim hatesu i think however he was right posting the walkthru that way at least others know about it and can have a go.
compare the trouble that explorers have to go thru for some decent loot to the ease of this cosmos thing
and alliance's should hold space for roids not for hand outs from ccp.
you big bad conqueror you Twangy
Hey there skippy, perhaps you should actually live in a 0.0 alliance for a while that holds this kind of space before you whine. You dont have a concept of how much work it takes to hold that space, how many ships of yours get popped while being in a fleet battle, or the madatory mining op to replace the Alliance's Titan that just got popped etc. Living in 0.0 aint easy, and if there are some perks which allow us to regain our massive amounts of lost ISK due to war, then we deserve it, because we fight hard for our space. Additionally, divide 1 digi plex in 1 cosmos amogst 2000 fellow alliance members, and see how often you can actually get into it. Think before you post, its helpful.
oh well hi prfessor Mule,
doesnt the same count for all other eve players that work hard for what they want to achieve in eve.
and btw all ive been doing in my posts is suggesting that there could be a more fair way of distributing this loot to all explorers.
and its those who post with unrelevant remarks to what i am or where i should live that are whining, as ive lived in 0.0 for 4-5 years and seen my share of alliance's anb im not bitter
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strcpy
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Posted - 2008.05.09 10:46:00 -
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In all this complexes are some low life idiots who farm it non stop, they stay cloak afk.End of story
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Shimali Softpaws
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.10 02:52:00 -
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Sir Emi
Gallente Space Odyssey Heroes
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Posted - 2008.05.10 06:07:00 -
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This is very sad indeed, farming is a bad thing for EVE...
I have submitted a bug report about those complexes and urge everyone to do the same.
The spawn rate should be changed to 1-2 spawns per day. Space Odyssey Maker... www.spaceo.net |
Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.10 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Red Thunder just make it so they respawn after a set time regardless of if someone is inside it....would solve all the problems
LIke DT, DT+6 hours, DT+12 hours, ecc.? Already tryed, plenty of cryes as the people in the right time zone would click them and raid them 5 minutes after spawning, those with the wrong schedule would never see them.
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