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Fiorenza	Posted - 2008.04.15 19:54:00 - [91] Interesting that CCP chose to lock the thread where people complained about a wide variety of file corruption problems and keep the one where people complained about shuttles. For the record, this patch screwed my Vista. I had to repair from the installation disk. -- Remember, Concord doesn't provide safety, or even consequences
EvilSpork Invicta.	Posted - 2008.04.15 20:03:00 - [92] Originally by: CCP Wrangler This has been added to the patch notes: NPC corporations will no longer be selling shuttles. wow way to go ahead and throw a monkey wrench into an economy already spiraling into inflation.. this is just going to make that WAY worse. BAD MOVE CPP.
Fastercart Gallente Ihatalo Heavy Industries Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.15 20:03:00 - [93] Originally by: Uzuness Oh, and I keep randomly getting logged in/out of these forums.. which is strange, since it doesn't happen to other forums I go to. If you're using Firefox, I got this too. I had to go to Tools > Options > Show Cookies, and delete all my eve-online.com cookies (www.eve-online.com, myeve, and srch.eve-online.com). Then, I had to go to Exceptions and change the above sites from Blocked to Allow (one at a time). Firefox gets fussy about cross-domain cookies occasionally. __ Rorqual AKA Mega Maid Oh, my God. It's Mega Maid. She's gone from suck to blow.
Koti Resci Knighthawk Light Industries	Posted - 2008.04.15 20:04:00 - [94] Originally by: CCP Wrangler The NPC corporations selling shuttles created a price cap on tritanium, as reported in our second EconDev Blog, which has been removed with this change. Shuttle blueprints are of course available in every station. Too bad not every station has manufacturing facilities.
Sturmwolke School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.04.15 20:04:00 - [95] Patch works fine. No immediate issues for the 3 different systems it was installed on. Kudos to CCP devs for being responsive in the patch thread .... much better than the last 1.1 debacle. Unfortunately, the biggest nag for me, drone window still resets and snaps to the overview in 1680x1050. Shouldn't this have been a simple fix to implement? P.S Lol at the shuttles. Thank goodness I'd already bought and ME researched my own BPO weeks ago :)
WiseMan Ari Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.15 20:12:00 - [96] game wount start since patch. When i tried to start the game after patching i got some wierd message saying game was moving offensive (can't remember for sure if the word was offensive, but it was something simular) files to some other directory. And when tried to start again after the reboot it asked for the game instantly closes, i see the splash screen for alot less than a second. Hate patching now :( And you realy need give every ship a shuttle cargo bay or something, so that you can actualy bring one along when you're moving ships. Gonna be a serious pain otherwise [This space for rent] Support the NSPDP National Society For the Protection of Discriminated Pirates
Sae Liao Cellular Automaton Solutions	Posted - 2008.04.15 20:14:00 - [97] Originally by: CCP Gangleri Because making players poorer through direct action from CCP would go down so much smoother? It's been done many times in the past, why should this be treated any different. Inconveniencing your entire playerbase till the end of timce, 'cause someone "might" have a million shuttles sitting in his hangar isn't very smart I'm afraid. Originally by: CCP Gangleri The technicalities do not matter anymore, the deed is done. It was given thought and executed. There is no longer a cap on Tritanium price, there is more stuff for players to play the market with. These effects are both a huge benefit to the players, the downside is that shuttles are not available is every NPC station, I'd say the pros outweigh the cons quite heavily. Yeah I'm sure there'll be plenty scammers "playing the market", I get to pay more for pretty much everything (which isn't so bad, the cap had to go) it'll take me longer to get anywhere AND while logistics always have been a PITA in EVE it just got a lot worse. Why couldn't you just make them refine into nothing while leaving the production requirements alone. I doubt anyone would complain even if they had a shuttle in EVERY station! If someone stockpiled millions of shuttles to play the resource market they had it coming anyay.
Tomahawk Bliss Minmatar The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2008.04.15 20:29:00 - [98] Ok, I have to do a full install of the eve client EACH fracking time I want to play the game. Every 10 minutes when it disconnects me, I have to re-install the full client to get it to load one single time. I am a sad panda
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2008.04.15 20:31:00 - [99] I was a little put off by the nuisance factor of the shuttle change, but thinking about it more, between podflying, player-supplied shuttles, and the NPC-supplied T1 frigs available at many stations, this isn't going to be very much of an inconvenience at all. Of course, that last thing kind of throws a wrench into some of the other arguments being given here about the economics. (i.e., the people saying that they couldn't have just raised the price of shuttles or lowered their trit output because that would just be putting a new floor in place.) But I don't care much about that, even though it should be a much bigger deal to me. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Dominatus Crispus Gallente Genesis Rising	Posted - 2008.04.15 20:36:00 - [100] Does anyone have any idea what was fixed when they where referring to: EXPLOIT FIXES - Several exploit issues have been fixed, making EVE a better world to live in for us all. I can't seem to find any details regarding anything that was "fixed" ____________________ omg, no sig... i must be boring... :p
Altaree Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium	Posted - 2008.04.15 20:38:00 - [101] um, what NPC supplied t1 frigates... I don't see any in jita... Blue Sky
Frelix Blueprint Haus Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.04.15 20:40:00 - [102] Originally by: Altaree um, what NPC supplied t1 frigates... I don't see any in jita... Maybe he means the newb t1 frigates.

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2008.04.15 20:47:00 - [103] Originally by: Dominatus Crispus Does anyone have any idea what was fixed when they where referring to: EXPLOIT FIXES - Several exploit issues have been fixed, making EVE a better world to live in for us all. I can't seem to find any details regarding anything that was "fixed" We can only publish details on exploits when both the clusters, Tranquility and Serenity, have been updated. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Maverick Ice	Posted - 2008.04.15 20:56:00 - [104] Here is a shocking idea for you CCP, make Rookie Ships available on the market for 100 ISK. Gives people a ship to play with if they want to travel in something other than a capsule, and doesn't affect mineral economies.
Venatoris Portucalis Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.04.15 21:03:00 - [105] Science & Industry Screen settings define by user, i have bug reported it before and was classifyed has been fixed in 1.2... still buged just like before... already updated the bug report... Overview and fleet windows still mess around with each other (yeah just like before). Fleet window keeps on insisting to go under overview pushing the selected item window out of the screen... Docking and undock will reset the selected overview filter (yeah just like before) Cargo n scanner window auto-pops up when u jump through a gate up if u have close it by pressing the their boutton, if instead u pressing the X in the window it will stay closed If CCP does have anyone in QA, please fire them and hire some ppl that actuly know how to test things. Vena The views expressed here are my personal views, and in no way represent my corporation views. Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
DeODokktor Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium	Posted - 2008.04.15 21:07:00 - [106] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Leonora Webb I'm getting a small (but annoying) bug, when opening and closing the cargo and scanner using the new toggleable buttons on the UI, then performing a stargate jump, the windows pop back open again. Originally by: ZaKma This is broken if the cargo is in a stack. The cargo closes, but the stack remains open thus leaving you with a unusable empty stack. Both issues have been fixed internally, will be released in a later patch. Originally by: Calyce Originally by: Randolf Sightblinder Did anyone cruise the high sec asteroid or ice belts? Are they cleaner? won't happen for another 30 days... the timer is installed now.... The timer was installed when Trinity 1.1 was released, the first cleanup occurs in DT tomorrow, 16 April. Is there a tool in place for GM's to restore deleted cans when the system DELETES every can in the game because the system is F00b?..
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2008.04.15 21:14:00 - [107] Originally by: Frelix Originally by: Altaree um, what NPC supplied t1 frigates... I don't see any in jita... Maybe he means the newb t1 frigates. Nope, but maybe it was a bug and/or been fixed. (I meant to add an "I think?" in the above quote.) Not long ago, you could get things like Slashers and Bursts from NPC sell orders. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Ryy Kishin Absolutely No Retreat Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.15 21:38:00 - [108] Originally by: Maverick Ice Here is a shocking idea for you CCP, make Rookie Ships available on the market for 100 ISK. Gives people a ship to play with if they want to travel in something other than a capsule, and doesn't affect mineral economies. Why when you can dock at a station in your pod where you have no ships and your supplied with one. ------------------------------------------------ Live Hard Die Young Leave A Good Looking Corpse.
DukeJoost1 The Last Solution Inc	Posted - 2008.04.15 21:39:00 - [109] Originally by: CCP Gangleri Because making players poorer through direct action from CCP would go down so much smoother? ....... just like you did when the price for the Efficient Equipment Assembly Array was reduced from 450M to 57M in the previous patch ? That did go down smooth. I even petitioned but no compensation. Thanks again.
Tarh Assiliof ICE is Coming to EVE Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.04.15 21:58:00 - [110] Originally by: Ryy Kishin Originally by: Maverick Ice Here is a shocking idea for you CCP, make Rookie Ships available on the market for 100 ISK. Gives people a ship to play with if they want to travel in something other than a capsule, and doesn't affect mineral economies. Why when you can dock at a station in your pod where you have no ships and your supplied with one. You get a free rookie ship with 1 trit in cargo :)
Mantees Gallente Hikage Corporation Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.04.15 22:13:00 - [111] Originally by: CCP Saint Update 2008.04.15: This has been added to the patch notes: NPC corporations will no longer be selling shuttles. Free market FTW!!!1111 I approve this decision -- OGRank.com - EVE Online - MMORPG News
Kerfira University of Caille	Posted - 2008.04.15 22:21:00 - [112] Edited by: Kerfira on 15/04/2008 22:22:01 Actually there's nothing bad about the decision to make shuttles a player created item. As other people has said, if you really need a <small ship> to zip around in, just dock in a station where you have no ships stored, and you'll get a new noob ship. Or you can just fly in your pod. What's MUCH more interesting is how this'll affect the trit prices. I don't think it'll be a lot, but consider this..... Every shuttle ever sold from NPC sellers eventually ends up in one of three ways: 1. Abandoned in space or a hangar somewhere 2. Blown up 3. Refined My guess is the vast majority ends up as #3. This means there'll now be less trit 'produced' (even though nobody intentionally did so), but I don't think it'll be really noticeable (think the amount is not significant). Another issue is that this removes an ISK sink from the game. While probably not a significant one either, it'd be interesting to hear from Dr. whatever-his-name-is (the economy guy) what the exact numbers were for this and trit (at least in percentages). Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Kerfira University of Caille	Posted - 2008.04.15 22:28:00 - [113] Thanks for the partial fix for the overview, at least the windows doesn't get pushed off screen anymore which was REALLY annoying. It's still not good, but IS a bit better. Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.15 23:15:00 - [114] BOOST NOOBSHIPS! So at least i can get ot destination AFK faster than within next week.
HighlanderUK International Brotherhood	Posted - 2008.04.15 23:22:00 - [115] Market Quickbar working as it should - thanks for that, it was a nightmare selling 300+ items and the order to be all jumbled up. Can you please restore the Export to File and Buy Order buttons back to the middle bar between the Sell and Buy Orders, they are too low down the screen now, and interfere with hanger and other windows. Can we also please have a shortcut key capability for the 'Export to File' button, under health and safety to prevent carpel tunnel / RSI?? Thanks. p.s. hope the trit price doesn't rocket in price, i have hungry children to feed, i'm just a poor trader/industrialist.....:( ************************************************** Maker of the finest Scottish drones and ammo...all combined with Active Peat Camouflage (tm) -- so dark, you won't see them coming!!
Nethras Minmatar	Posted - 2008.04.15 23:26:00 - [116] Originally by: Kerfira Edited by: Kerfira on 15/04/2008 22:22:01 Actually there's nothing bad about the decision to make shuttles a player created item. As other people has said, if you really need a <small ship> to zip around in, just dock in a station where you have no ships stored, and you'll get a new noob ship. Or you can just fly in your pod. I believe that the mass*inertia modifier of a rookie frig is about 3 times that of a shuttle, and something like 40% higher than that of a Rifter, meaning worse align times - for low-sec, I really don't like flying in a pod though it's an option, and I'd rather have a shuttle than a rookie frig for align times. However, if leaving NPC production of shuttles out of the economy is best, I'm sure we can all work around it, and really isn't directly bad in any way. I would prefer that the packaged size of shuttles be reduced down to 100 m3 or less to reduce the inconvenience though, and as the 2500 trit in a shuttle only takes 25 m3 in raw form, a reduction in packaged shuttle size down to something larger than 25 m3 shouldn't have any economic impact other than making transportation of shuttles a little easier for the new player shuttle market right?
Veng3ance Multiversal Enterprise Inc. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.04.15 23:27:00 - [117] Edited by: Veng3ance on 15/04/2008 23:33:52 Edited by: Veng3ance on 15/04/2008 23:29:23 Originally by: CCP Wrangler This has been added to the patch notes: NPC corporations will no longer be selling shuttles. I understand the economics, but why guys, you could have just doubled the NPC cost of shuttles, or lowered the refine amount. You really think making shuttles double cost would make or lose anyone a fortune? I HIGHLY doubt anyone has that many shuttles. Compare this to the vast inconvenience of not having shuttles in NPC stations anymore. Also, you have not removed the cap from trit, you just moved it to a different item so whatever. EDIT: If this was any other NPC good I wouldn't care, but shuttles are insanely useful and sometimes needed in totally obscure places where no one would ever seed a market. So honestly this change just plain sucks. EDIT #2: Also "the deed is done" , you guys have a downtime EVERY DAY. Re-seed them LOL.
Raneru Maximegalon	Posted - 2008.04.16 00:01:00 - [118] What happened to the old custom windowed resolutions such as 1600x900 ? I'm currently stuck playing eve in a 1280x960 window on a 1680x1050 monitor
Letouk Mernel	Posted - 2008.04.16 00:01:00 - [119] Originally by: Veng3ance Also, you have not removed the cap from trit, you just moved it to a different item so whatever. Which item? Nothing's been sold by NPC's for a long time now, everything made by players and sold by players.
violator2k5 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.16 01:07:00 - [120] any idea when you will be fixing the crashing issues for those of us in that 19 page thread?? i was really hoping that we would of got that in this patch but no the crashes are still happening and its really spoiling the game for those of us with those issues 19 page thread about it which hasnt been fixed yet ---------------------------- BOB 4 LIFE NOT JUST 4 A DAY ----------------------------

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