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Comrade Commizzar	Posted - 2008.04.17 18:24:00 - [1] Now is the time!! Now that the oppressive system of NPC shuttle manufacture is broken! Now that the peasant mining class of Eve is free to charge their masters the true value of their labor! UNITE! DO NOT SELL YOUR LABOR CHEAPLY! YOUR MASTERS KNOW THAT TRIT IS WELL WORTH AS MUCH AS 8.00 ISK! WHY SELL YOUR TRIT AT 3 TO 4 WHEN YOUR LABOR IS WORTH TWICE THAT? WHY GIVE THE SWEAT OF YOUR EFFORTS TO THE OVERLORD'S OF ZERO SPACE SO THEY CAN BUILD SHIPS CHEAPLY TO ALLOW THEIR PUPPETS TO CAMP GATES THAT DENY YOU ACCESS TO ZERO SPACE AND ALLOW THEM TO STEAL BILLIONS OF ISK PER DAY FROM THEIR MOON MINING OPERATIONS?? MINERS OF EVE UNITE!! TAKE BACK WHAT IS YOURS!
Jenny Spitfire Caldari LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.04.17 18:29:00 - [2] Mein Hulk alrady samsh smash smash bad Velsdpar. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Recruitment -KB-
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.04.17 18:35:00 - [3] Back to work you dogs. It is your station in life to provide people with tritanium. You will do this and be happy regardless of the conditions under which you work. You will be happy, or you will be dealt with. You cannot be allowed to disrupt the economic prosperity of your financial betters by hiking trit prices.
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.04.17 18:36:00 - [4] Yes, let's unite! Raise those prices! We deserve more for our mining labor!
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.04.17 18:38:00 - [5] Lies. The labor leaders are trying to fool you. You will never profit this much off of tritanium. In fact, you should REJOICE if you sell it for even as much as 4 ISK per unit.
Comrade Commizzar	Posted - 2008.04.17 18:51:00 - [6] You see Comrades?? The truth of the power structure in Eve is that it is based upon the labor of the newer players of Eve.... The Zero Space OverLords use YOU to provide the Trit for their ships and the Cannon-Fodder to fly them to defend THEIR ASSETS in the zero space Bourgoise Alliances!! They admit it!! WAKE UP! UNITE!!! RISE UP!!! FIGHT BACK!!! DO NOT SURRENDER YOUR LABOR OR LOYALTY CHEAPLY! Without your submission to their terms of "peasant rent", "share-cropping alliance", or "mercenary servitude".... THEY ARE NOTHING! Without you they cannot maintain their grip on the one thing that keeps them on top and on your back....... THE MOON MINING OPERATIONS. They know this and they are shaking in fear of the possibility that you might unite. FORWARD THE REVOLUTION!
jongalt	Posted - 2008.04.17 18:52:00 - [7] comrade, "what is to be done?" -jg.
Comrade Commizzar	Posted - 2008.04.17 19:02:00 - [8] Edited by: Comrade Commizzar on 17/04/2008 19:02:02 Originally by: jongalt comrade, "what is to be done?" -jg. UNITE! CHARGE MORE FOR YOUR TRITANIUM! BE PATIENT! DO NOT UNDERCUT YOUR BROTHER! THE OVERLORDS WILL HOLD OUT FOR A SHORT WHILE! BUT DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY CAN STOP WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO SUPPLY THEIR OWN TRIT?? NO! THEY DEPEND UPON YOUR LABOR NOW THAT THE SHUTTLE SUPPLY IS BROKEN! "WE ARE IN THIS TOGETHER" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Zulx4mjHk
Uzuness Carebear Corp	Posted - 2008.04.17 19:13:00 - [9] Moscow will not allow this.
Wagstaff Darkdust Industries Empire Black Scope Project	Posted - 2008.04.17 19:16:00 - [10] Originally by: jongalt comrade, "what is to be done?" -jg. Now that's just wrong.

Comrade Commizzar	Posted - 2008.04.17 19:18:00 - [11] Edited by: Comrade Commizzar on 17/04/2008 19:18:58 After the price of Tritanium has been driven to near 8.00 Isk, the next step will be taken. FORWARD THE REVOLUTION!!
Euriti Gallente SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.04.17 19:30:00 - [12] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Mein Hulk alrady samsh smash smash bad Velsdpar. Posting in a Jenny thread.
jongalt	Posted - 2008.04.17 19:31:00 - [13] Originally by: Wagstaff Originally by: jongalt comrade, "what is to be done?" -jg. Now that's just wrong. -jg.
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.04.17 19:32:00 - [14] Is it really a new jenny or did the last one take some English lessons and huff a lot of paint?
Comrade Commizzar	Posted - 2008.04.17 19:54:00 - [15] Originally by: Wagstaff Originally by: jongalt comrade, "what is to be done?" -jg. Now that's just wrong. ********************* They tremble in fear of just this!
Ikserak tai Caldari	Posted - 2008.04.17 20:11:00 - [16] I believe the quantities of Tritanium available on the market are a small percentage of all the manufacturing going on. That is, the corporations and individuals manufacturing modules and ships are mining their own ore and refining their own minerals. For example, if a battleship takes 10M units of Trit, at 2.70 Isk the cost would be 27M. Recently the cost of Trit has risen to 3.5 or higher, making the "cost" of building of the same ship 8M more. Until we see a rise in ship prices, the market value of Trit may not be an indicator of ship pricing, as the market may not be the major supplier of Trit to manufacturers.
Shadow Joy	Posted - 2008.04.17 20:25:00 - [17] Join the protest Saturday morning at Old Man Star! Show the EVE population exactly what you are made of! Be there, in the first asteroid belt, at 11:00 EVE time. I assure you - your voices will be heard.
Chomin H'ak The Trivenerate	Posted - 2008.04.17 20:26:00 - [18] Originally by: Dirk Magnum Is it really a new jenny or did the last one take some English lessons and huff a lot of paint? She seems to go back and forth... maybe she got hit by gamma radiation? On-topic: Labor demands real pay. Stop forcing cheap labor in the market and hold true to the little guy.
Comrade Commizzar	Posted - 2008.04.17 20:33:00 - [19] Edited by: Comrade Commizzar on 17/04/2008 20:33:52 Originally by: Ikserak tai I believe the quantities of Tritanium available on the market are a small percentage of all the manufacturing going on. That is, the corporations and individuals manufacturing modules and ships are mining their own ore and refining their own minerals. For example, if a battleship takes 10M units of Trit, at 2.70 Isk the cost would be 27M. Recently the cost of Trit has risen to 3.5 or higher, making the "cost" of building of the same ship 8M more. Until we see a rise in ship prices, the market value of Trit may not be an indicator of ship pricing, as the market may not be the major supplier of Trit to manufacturers. ******************************** You underestimate your value as a serf Comrade! Do not be ashamed as this is a common error of the working class pilot in Eve to discount his labor. While it is true that many loot-dropped items may be refined into their component minerals, the mistake you make in your view is that the Bourgoise OverLords would ever soil their hands with the labor it would take to run the missions for the loot. And why should they when YOU ARE WILLING TO DO IT FOR NEXT TO NOTHING? Just as many miners are willing to part with their trit for nothing.... until they WAKE UP... THIS IS YOUR WAKE-UP CALL! FORWARD THE REVOLUTION!!
Ikserak tai Caldari	Posted - 2008.04.17 20:57:00 - [20] OK, I'll bite. Which constellation and region is Old Man Star? Please don't tell me it's in Jita. Someone said 1100 EVE time, isn't that downtime??? If I try to sell Trit for 8 Isk per, then all I'll accomplish is not selling my Trit. While your call to action is rousing, just what plan of action do you propose, just "what" do you want us to take back? What do you mean by "unite"? While I agree that my labor is not being paid anything near what it is worth, I've got to see something more than emotional rhetoric before I commit to la Revolucion!

Alrione Amarr Black Lagoon Inc.	Posted - 2008.04.17 21:11:00 - [21] Yes yes, I fully endorse this idea. Please proceed.
Quelque Chose New Eden Roller Disco Supply	Posted - 2008.04.17 21:24:00 - [22] Originally by: Comrade Commizzar RABBLE RABBLE PROLETARIAT RABBLE RABBLE Gimmick account = meh, but that avatar is absolutely perfect.
Stakhanov Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.04.17 21:53:00 - [23] This is all due to the lumpenproletariat of macrominers. They keep working during strikes , no class conscience whatsoever. Rid the belts of these yellows and then you may forward the cause of the mining masses.
Wolverine Quick	Posted - 2008.04.17 21:59:00 - [24] Ok boys and Girls listen up. I am posting with an alt first and foremost reason being is my mains are known by the people I am going to talk to you about. I walk in the shadow of eve's greatest traders and isk hoarders Ive talked to the richest in game and all those inbetween from cap builders to mass t-1 builders. ONE OF THE HUGEE WAYSSS these guys make thier is from UNDERPRICING the buy orders lower then the orignal mineral worth of that module component ship etc. Then they have great standing and freigthter the crap in and reprocess refine whatever and then dump the minerals/components on the market. THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE WAY JITA PRICES ARE AFFECTED as mins prices drives everything else in game. DONT BE QUICK TO SELL..look at the module u are selling and the regional high for it. DONT SELL below that high DONT be in a dam rush if you can help it and it will lower the huge amount of reprocessing flux into the system QUIT BEING dumb people and .001 selling lower then you fellow miner. Make them all buy Higher not lower miners been screwed with pye and trit for far to long UNITE AND RAISE TRIT AND PYE PRICES TRIT should be running nothing less then 4.5 and 6 on the high side.. PYE should be 7-9 as it is FAR less per refine then trit is. UNITE UNITE UNITE FIGHT FOR YOUR ISK DONT BE A SLAVE to the mega traders. And no i dont know comrade but i do like his style
Alty MacAlterson Alt Corporation	Posted - 2008.04.17 22:01:00 - [25] Best troll ever
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.04.17 22:07:00 - [26] A spectre is haunting New Eden ù the spectre of unified Veldspar Miners. All the powers of old Eden have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: BoB and Goonswarm, Khatred and Shadrale, North Radicals and Southern police-spies. Where is the party in opposition that has not been decried as communistic by its opponents in power? Where is the opposition that has not hurled back the branding reproach of communism, against the more advanced opposition parties, as well as against its reactionary adversaries? .... guess what I replaced with what? I thought it was Comissar, without the double "Z." So, who is going against the wall first, when the revolution strikes?
Comrade Commizzar	Posted - 2008.04.17 22:25:00 - [27] Originally by: Ikserak tai OK, I'll bite. Which constellation and region is Old Man Star? Please don't tell me it's in Jita. Someone said 1100 EVE time, isn't that downtime??? If I try to sell Trit for 8 Isk per, then all I'll accomplish is not selling my Trit. While your call to action is rousing, just what plan of action do you propose, just "what" do you want us to take back? What do you mean by "unite"? While I agree that my labor is not being paid anything near what it is worth, I've got to see something more than emotional rhetoric before I commit to la Revolucion! *************** Thanks for the question Comrade Iserak! What you need to take back is the value of your effort in Eve... Through the mistaken belief that your time is worth less than that of your OverLord Masters in the Zero Space Alliances... you willingly abandon the fruits of your labor from mission running or mining by readily undercutting the price you are willing to take and selling to the lowest bidder. And in the case of mining, the robbery was worse because the easiest ore to mine that the new players have access to is Veldspar.... which refines to Tritanium WHICH UNTIL THE LATEST PATCH WAS HELD DOWN TO A VALUE OF 3.60 ISK AT BEST because shuttles could be purchased and recycled for their trit content. NO LONGER! Now The masters of Eve are trembling in fear because they know they can no longer supply their Trit requirements without getting their hands dirty as they have in the past. They can no longer simply buy freighters full of shuttles to recycle. Now the price of Trit has little reason not to rise to the price level of the next recyclable NPC made item and that price is about 8.00 isK or so. Right now they are doing everything they can to convince you that the price should be lower by holding off on their purchases and relying on their stockpiles... but soon these stockpiles will run out and the price must rise. ALL I WANT IS FOR YOU TO KNOW THIS NOW COMRADE! AND TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO DEMAND FULL VALUE FOR YOUR EFFORT. As for a plan of action? If I come on this forum calling for all new pilots to flock to me as leader of a new movement to destroy the Corrupt Capitalist Oligopoly of Eve that is robbing you of your daily fun.... What am I then? Just another megalomaniac of Eve? NO!! I CHOOSE RATHER TO POINT THE WAY! TO HIGHLIGHT THE QUESTIONS YOU SHOULD BE ASKING YOURSELF BEFORE YOU SELL, BUY, TRADE, ANYTHING OR SERVE ANYONE! Eve is possibly the most corrupt, self serving, labor robbing, feudalistic pyramid scheme in the history of MMOs.... and the pilots at the top of this pyramid pride themselves on this fact. Anyone who has played Eve for more than a few weeks knows the difficulty of organizing a truly cohesive force to accomplish anything in Eve. But what better "Uniting" force than the newb pilots own best economic interests? If they are educated about their real relationship with the OverLords of Zero, they will KNOW what to do.... and it won't involve selling their Trit at baRgain basement prices or volunteering to fly tackling frigates FOR THEIR ENEMIES! FORWARD THE REVOLUTION!!
Comrade Commizzar	Posted - 2008.04.17 22:27:00 - [28] Originally by: Quelque Chose Originally by: Comrade Commizzar RABBLE RABBLE PROLETARIAT RABBLE RABBLE Gimmick account = meh, but that avatar is absolutely perfect. ******************** Thanks...LOL I worked on it awile to get it just right for the task at hand.
Comrade Commizzar	Posted - 2008.04.17 22:34:00 - [29] Originally by: Wolverine Quick Ok boys and Girls listen up. I am posting with an alt first and foremost reason being is my mains are known by the people I am going to talk to you about. I walk in the shadow of eve's greatest traders and isk hoarders Ive talked to the richest in game and all those inbetween from cap builders to mass t-1 builders. ONE OF THE HUGEE WAYSSS these guys make thier is from UNDERPRICING the buy orders lower then the orignal mineral worth of that module component ship etc. Then they have great standing and freigthter the crap in and reprocess refine whatever and then dump the minerals/components on the market. THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE WAY JITA PRICES ARE AFFECTED as mins prices drives everything else in game. DONT BE QUICK TO SELL..look at the module u are selling and the regional high for it. DONT SELL below that high DONT be in a dam rush if you can help it and it will lower the huge amount of reprocessing flux into the system QUIT BEING dumb people and .001 selling lower then you fellow miner. Make them all buy Higher not lower miners been screwed with pye and trit for far to long UNITE AND RAISE TRIT AND PYE PRICES TRIT should be running nothing less then 4.5 and 6 on the high side.. PYE should be 7-9 as it is FAR less per refine then trit is. UNITE UNITE UNITE FIGHT FOR YOUR ISK DONT BE A SLAVE to the mega traders. And no i dont know comrade but i do like his style ********************************** Thank you Comrade Wolverine for the enlightening remarks! STRENGTH THROUGH UNITY OF ACTION! UNITY THROUGH KNOWLEDGE! POWER TO THE PROLETARIAT! SMASH THE CORRUPT ZERO OLIGARCHY OVERLORDS! FORWARD THE REVOLUTION!!
Ikserak tai Caldari	Posted - 2008.04.17 22:37:00 - [30] This I avow: I will not sell my minerals nor manufacture any items for re-sale until the value of Tritanium rises to 8 Isk. I will therefore refuse to participate in the Eve economy until my labor is adequately compensated. This is my small contribution to the Revolution at this time. If through soul searching I deem greater sacrifice is necessary, I will become as a comrade to my brothers who toil in the belts. All great journeys start with the first step... MINERS UNITE!



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