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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.02.29 08:46:00 -
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Good work CCP.
Now do this every month for a year. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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riverini
Reliables Inc Initiative Mercenaries
464
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Posted - 2012.02.29 08:46:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Thanks! :)
I'm writing a dev blog in a day or two that will contain some sweet juicy new details.
As regards the timing of this particular wave, let the dudes on FHC know that Fanfest had nothing to do with it. That's a coincidence.
:edit: also the guy above me
I want to invite everybody to stand up and give an standing ovation to Sreegs and CCP for this, the only thing I would ask was why it wasn't done sooner, which i guess is related to how cautious is CCP Games before serving some street justice.
I repeat it BIG APPLAUSE for this!!!!          RIVERINI / EVENEWS24 @evenews24 |

JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
43
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Posted - 2012.02.29 08:55:00 -
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>Reading thread on FHC with Official Inferno Theme >:feelsgoodman:
Sreegs, your team just made my week.
And yeah, "It's a bot holocaust" is literally a quote  |

Ezurae
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2012.02.29 09:05:00 -
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well all the makro botters are still their and those are the easiest kinds of bots... Jason Hardy together with Keyana Purvanen (alternating between these two chars he has an online time of 23 hours), Y0T00 (+ recycling scam alts since a year or so), Ashley Hart and so many more... Granted some of them have tough patterns like Keyana and Jason, which repeat only after about 45 messages but it only takes 10 seconds of my time and a button in excel to get their damn patterns and i'm a noob compared to what ccp should be able to do.... But since they cant even see easy patterns like the 1 message every 62 seconds like Ashley Hart does it, i guess i shouldnt expect them to recognize the tougher patterns... Well since they also don't seem to answer petitions in the EULA & TOS category its also not possible to show them the facts and point them right towards the botters...
and all those botters that got banned just have a temporary ban, they will just sell all their characters afterwards, buy new ones and continue botting... Even on their first time they should only be able to get 1 of their accounts back while the rest stays banned. That way they would learn their lesson but still have their main account so theres hope they will continue playing but without botting
oh yeah people posting a scam 5 hours after its been completed is kind of a giveaway too (Jason Hardy, right now).... |

Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
17
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Posted - 2012.02.29 09:17:00 -
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Come home from work yesterday, notice Local has more than halved of its usual occupants. On top of that THERES KERNITE EVERYWHERE!!!! Usually when i get home there isnt a spec of kernite left floating in space for me to gather!
Thanks CCP good job! |

baltec1
738
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Posted - 2012.02.29 09:24:00 -
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This makes BATs war on bots taste so much sweeter. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2682
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Posted - 2012.02.29 09:33:00 -
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Great news, hopefully spam bots will get the hammer too...
Looking forward to that blog!
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thecunning mrfox
Darwin's response
11
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Posted - 2012.02.29 09:58:00 -
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Just finished reading the thread in fhc,
Thank you spank for bringing this to my attention, a truly glorious start to my day.
Props to CCP, the tears produced in that bot thread were far better than the lamentations of their women could ever be.
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1609
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Posted - 2012.02.29 10:45:00 -
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I don't know why (a couple of) people think this is me attention whoring but thanks to CCP Sreegs and everyone else for their input in this thread.
CCP; If you are truly taking stronger action against botters then I can only applaud you in your actions.
It's clear from this thread that botters are not welcome and I hope you proceed with harsh actions against those that undermine genuine efforts. I can only imagine the impact that botters place on the reputation of genuine miners.
Lets not forget of course that botters are active in the folllowing activities:
Trading Courier Contracts Missioning Mining (roids/gas/whatever else) local spam of scam contracts
I look forwards to this blog report and I hope it has anecdotes about Amsterdam too :P I hope you visited the cat barge (cat refuge) that they have there, its the most adorable thing about Amsterdam GÖÑ (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
637
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Posted - 2012.02.29 10:47:00 -
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You are all wonderful people. I fully endorse the idea of preventing botting characters from being traded.
Looking forward to the devblog o7 Lobbying for your right to delete your signature |

Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
118
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Posted - 2012.02.29 10:55:00 -
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No trading (of chars) if you botting!!!!!! |

Eternus8lux8lucis
Whack-A-Mole
69
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Posted - 2012.02.29 11:09:00 -
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Hehehe Well this explains oh so much of whats been going on in Eve the past few weeks then and makes a LOT of sense for me. Also took a gander through FHCs thread on it and loved every second of it. This is great.
I play a lot, I got a lot of time on my hands to do so. Loved this game for many years and have always loved to see this kind of stuff go down. Playing till your eyes bleed some days and then watching and knowing theres others that dont have to suffer to get the same results sucks.
Id also love to see a no trading or selling on banned accounts myself. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace |

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
160
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Posted - 2012.02.29 11:13:00 -
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CCP Sreegs soon back from Amsterdam.
CCP's greatest expert on pot, erh bots.
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Ptraci
StoneWall Metals Productions Bloodbound.
352
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Posted - 2012.02.29 11:14:00 -
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You guys at CCP need to look into a bit of behavioral psychology. There is fixed stimulus and variable stimulus. The most powerful way to affect behavior is to combine the two. Begin with fixed stimulus and then switch over to variable stimulus, and you will train the EVE community to fear your anti-bot crusades.
What does this mean? Have a REGULAR bot purge every few weeks/months or so. Do this for 6 months to a year. Then switch the schedule and have irregular bot purges, sometimes doing them a few weeks in a row, sometimes going months between them. Eventually the botters will become so paranoid because of the unpredictable nature of the purges (after the certainty of a purge was hammered home through fixed stimulus) they will just give up and go elsewhere.
Anyway my $0.02 worth, from what I understand of behavioral psychology.
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Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.02.29 11:14:00 -
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Well played CCP, Well played! Keep raining down those nukes in the future ^^ |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2239
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Posted - 2012.02.29 12:02:00 -
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It'd help if you didn't, you know, publish botting guides on your site. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Hiram Alexander
Seraphim Securities
157
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Posted - 2012.02.29 12:14:00 -
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Andski wrote:It'd help if you didn't, you know, publish botting guides on your site. Amen. |

Bubanni
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
113
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Posted - 2012.02.29 12:26:00 -
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Hi CCP, can I ask you something?... Are you still giving warnings to first time offenders of botting? last I heard you only took their isk and banned for... idk. a few months...
I personly think there should be a zero tolerance towards people who bot... that will make some of the average players more careful about botting...
Also ban their main accounts if you can link the isk transferes to it, and your sure they are the same people, most of the botters aren't using their mains for it, they consider their botters throw away characters |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
335
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Posted - 2012.02.29 12:55:00 -
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Ezurae wrote:Well since they also don't seem to answer petitions in the EULA & TOS category its also not possible to show them the facts and point them right towards the botters...
They do answer petitions in EULA & TOS but they assume by default that you are a botter asking for ban removal before even opening your message. Therefore they always impose a forced 2 weeks wait. I sent them several questions over the years, always had to wait for weeks. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
586
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Posted - 2012.02.29 13:09:00 -
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SREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGS |

baltec1
740
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Posted - 2012.02.29 13:29:00 -
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At the very least you should know if the char you are about to buy has any warnings or not. |

You're Mum
1st. Pariah Malefactor corp.
0
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Posted - 2012.02.29 13:45:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:
I'm stoned :(
Ftfy |

You're Mum
1st. Pariah Malefactor corp.
0
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Posted - 2012.02.29 13:52:00 -
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Well done though sreegs. But as every one has said this needs to be a regular thing. You say that this isn't a publicity thing for fanfest then great, do the same thing next month and the month after.
Can't wait for the blog on this, obviously you would need to hold back how you worked out how these dicks are botting but would be interesting to hear what you have to say. As others have said stats on what alliances have the most bothers would be interesting. And name and shame also!!
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You're Mum
1st. Pariah Malefactor corp.
0
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Posted - 2012.02.29 13:57:00 -
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Andski wrote:It'd help if you didn't, you know, publish botting guides on your site.
Yeah riverini a how to guide is so the best way to combat botting. As always you are made of win! Well done....:slow clap: |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
354
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Posted - 2012.02.29 14:25:00 -
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Now that CCP has finally gotten REAL SERIOUS about this......I've reported no less than 9 obvious bots in Thiarer alone this morning.
I ganked 2 next door in Orva last month and got them both banned.
Go to it CCP ! OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
354
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Posted - 2012.02.29 14:26:00 -
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You're Mum wrote:Andski wrote:It'd help if you didn't, you know, publish botting guides on your site. Yeah riverini a how to guide is so the best way to combat botting. As always you are made of win! Well done....:slow clap:
That was utterly idiotic when those were published.
OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
354
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Posted - 2012.02.29 14:29:00 -
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You're Mum wrote: As others have said stats on what alliances have the most bothers would be interesting. And name and shame also!!
Oh PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do this !
OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |

Joe Skellington
Scientific Nano Technologies Institute Jokers Wild.
41
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Posted - 2012.02.29 14:47:00 -
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Ah, this is good news. Thanks CCP, and the OP for posting.
EDIT: and a list of offenders and the results of the ban (i.e. duration, perm etc) would be cool. They do it with iRO, and it gave people in game an even more bad reputation. Was a good deterrent for that sort of thing. Though I doubt it would effect the big botting houses though, since players doing that is a drop in the bucket. -á-á |\__/|-á -á/ @ @ \ -á-á -á( > -¦ < )-á -á`-+-+x-½-½-¦ -á-á / O \ |

jm24
CRICE Corp Goonswarm Federation
35
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Posted - 2012.02.29 15:36:00 -
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Darius if you really want to make an impact you should trace where the isk/comps to build titans came from for every titan in the game. Banning the input doesn't go far enough, ban the output. |

Oxandrolone
Bite me inc. Exhale.
19
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Posted - 2012.02.29 15:48:00 -
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knowing how to identify bots might help us report them. as a wh corp we often see carriers ratting in deep empty nullsec areas, if we knew what alliences and behavour to look for it might make it easier for us to report them |
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