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Stephannus Calimben Trill Crabulas Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2008.05.16 06:21:00 - [361] Edited by: Stephannus Calimben on 16/05/2008 06:22:52 Originally by: Bodhisattvas Edited by: Bodhisattvas on 16/05/2008 06:07:01 4 years in corp ? what were your other chars ? you were not in corp for 4 years with Stephanie. Anyway 2 mining chars ? is that like the tip of the iceberg ? perhaps it's you with the macro miner fleet !!! Yup it fits, ccp were closing in fast and you needed to get rid of evidence right ? Anyhoo please explain why all the bitterness stephanie ? It's so entertaining to see so many ex muffs getting all bitter tbh but still as yet I am finding it hard to understand why ? much of what you explained sounds petty and childish but what about the others in this thread ? This muffin hating phenomenon is something amusing to say the least. Popcorn sales are through the roof!! haha four months, not four years. just fixed that typo. I was in muffin-factory from the 27th of september 2007 until the 18th of march 2008, so just shy of four months. I do confess that I was training up two characters with the intent of joining the macro fleet initially, i got greedy listening to how much essentially free money cran and them were making. In the end I changed my mind, and decided that i was already making enough money with my trading, and didn't need to stoop to cheating to make even more money. Tried my hand at 0.0 mining (which sucks balls BTW), and ended up just selling them for 2bill more than it cost me to train them up. I can't speak for the others, but I left muffin factory on good terms. I didn't steal anything, i didn't leave any bad feelings, i just realized that the people i enjoyed flying with had all either left the game, or left the corp, so i went with the flow and helped Atom, Slobones, Cado, and Centurion build up Trill. That Cran responded to my gracious goodbye on vent with "ya whatever" kind of **ed me off, but that he went ahead and accused me of being a liar, a cheat, and a thief on a public forum es me off even more. Cran can go ** himself. edit: what the hell? they even sensor out pis s?
Bodhisattvas Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2008.05.16 06:32:00 - [362] Barack ******* Obama what about this one ? Beyond me!!
Lucidia fern Amarr mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.05.16 07:09:00 - [363] Id like to know where this seeming hatred for me comes from. I join the corp after knowing cran for a month or two doing plenty of we based work for him. I then join the muffin factory and work my ass off to gain the respect of all the corp members running ops doing the loot splits. Ive only had one falling out and thats with HYT Gangster and tbh thats because i was putting excess pressure on him, and i hope he one day forgives me. Im not responsible for any of this and it jsut feels like who ever attacked cran set this up well, and put allot of thought into it to get me blamed. Such factors as me being the one ( with orange) that informed cran the hangers were empty. Me being the one that wanted to continue keeping the corp alive and active by recruiting while some of the members decided to go play another game. I assisted cran in the retrieval of his email account. If i was the culprit i wouldnÆt have stuck around i wud have grabbed it all and ran. Not to mention the fact crans never given me acess to any of his accounts not even to use his freighter alt, oh and half of them on that list i never knew egsisted. But hell make your own views on this situation. I can sit here and say anything i want but in the end its how you lot persieve it. And when this is all over i wouldnt mind a formal apologie from most of you, but by then youll be off in some coner sucking your giant epeen thumb Join The Muffin Factory
Janet Marshall Caldari	Posted - 2008.05.16 07:27:00 - [364] Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN Edited by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN on 13/05/2008 00:53:07 BTW dont move this as a 4yr pitate and the many friends we have in here is why we posted here. I believe we have that right. As one of the older pirate corps we have been apart of crime and punishment for many years. Although the newer people to eve dont know who we are till we kill them alot of our friends reside here. I regret to inform you my corp has been playing RF online for 2 weeks now as I have been hacked. Someone hacked me and put 10 dreads and 5 of my carriers into the corp hanger and about 10 bill in moduals as well then gave corp rights to everyone then joined an alt to my corp and took everything. CCP is working hard on helping me out but for past 5 days saying hello? in peition doesnt look good with no response. Lucky they where able to get back tons of my liquid isk. However i need the support of the eve community we have been with for 4yrs to pull threw this. If ships and mods arnt able to be returned most likely see the death of one of the oldest and long lasting pirate corps in eve. With less and less pirates this means less people for antipirates to hunt and have fun fighting. Yes where hated but as you know there are only about 8 pirate groups left 7 if factory dies after 4yrs of being in eve. So i am here to ask for your support in encouraging the speed of the help from ccp. Thy, cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN Similar situtation happened to us, they accused me of account shareing since my account was logged into from an unusual amounts of IPs, i gave them a full list of where i had traveled over the last year for work...and they closed the petition. Sucks that they think people who have been playing there game for 3+ years are out to screw them =\.
Stephannus Calimben Trill Crabulas Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2008.05.16 07:29:00 - [365] Originally by: Lucidia fern Id like to know where this seeming hatred for me comes from. I join the corp after knowing cran for a month or two doing plenty of we based work for him. I then join the muffin factory and work my ass off to gain the respect of all the corp members running ops doing the loot splits. Ive only had one falling out and thats with HYT Gangster and tbh thats because i was putting excess pressure on him, and i hope he one day forgives me. Im not responsible for any of this and it jsut feels like who ever attacked cran set this up well, and put allot of thought into it to get me blamed. Such factors as me being the one ( with orange) that informed cran the hangers were empty. Me being the one that wanted to continue keeping the corp alive and active by recruiting while some of the members decided to go play another game. I assisted cran in the retrieval of his email account. If i was the culprit i wouldnÆt have stuck around i wud have grabbed it all and ran. Not to mention the fact crans never given me acess to any of his accounts not even to use his freighter alt, oh and half of them on that list i never knew egsisted. But hell make your own views on this situation. I can sit here and say anything i want but in the end its how you lot persieve it. And when this is all over i wouldnt mind a formal apologie from most of you, but by then youll be off in some coner sucking your giant epeen thumb Sounds to me like this was an inside job. That's what I mean though, you came into corp without anyone knowing who you were, were instantly vaulted into all these roles etc, and seemed to be going overboard to be earning our trust. It was mostly the ratting out of Tsia that set off all our bull**** detectors. Not that i particularily have anything against you. It grated some of us a bit that you were so new and ordering us around, but I really couldn't care less. It was more of a conspiracy theory thing. I'd love to know if the same person who just ripped him off was the same person who tipped those guys off about the corp cran's alt was in (the one that wardeced his freighter alt corp and ganked it in jita)
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.05.16 08:04:00 - [366] Originally by: Stephannus Calimben Edited by: Stephannus Calimben on 16/05/2008 07:42:30 Originally by: Lucidia fern Id like to know where this seeming hatred for me comes from. I join the corp after knowing cran for a month or two doing plenty of we based work for him. I then join the muffin factory and work my ass off to gain the respect of all the corp members running ops doing the loot splits. Ive only had one falling out and thats with HYT Gangster and tbh thats because i was putting excess pressure on him, and i hope he one day forgives me. Im not responsible for any of this and it jsut feels like who ever attacked cran set this up well, and put allot of thought into it to get me blamed. Such factors as me being the one ( with orange) that informed cran the hangers were empty. Me being the one that wanted to continue keeping the corp alive and active by recruiting while some of the members decided to go play another game. I assisted cran in the retrieval of his email account. If i was the culprit i wouldnÆt have stuck around i wud have grabbed it all and ran. Not to mention the fact crans never given me acess to any of his accounts not even to use his freighter alt, oh and half of them on that list i never knew egsisted. But hell make your own views on this situation. I can sit here and say anything i want but in the end its how you lot persieve it. And when this is all over i wouldnt mind a formal apologie from most of you, but by then youll be off in some coner sucking your giant epeen thumb Sounds to me like this was an inside job, not that anyone ever thought it wasnt. I wouldn't say that any of us HATED you, we just didn't trust you, and didn't understand why cran (the least trusting person in the world) did. Seemed like he'd been blinded by the web dev help you gave him, and was opening himself up to you robbing him blind. We all left muffins months ago now, but from what we remember when we left you were the most likely culprit (though i'm sure you guys got more peeps in corp that are untrustworthy now, alot of pirates tend to be just that). I'd love to know if the same person who just ripped him off was the same person who tipped those guys off about the corp cran's alt was in (the one that wardeced his freighter alt corp and ganked it in jita) I hated him when he came on Vent... the profanity and racial slurs in that shrill girly voice were like nails on a chalkboard () () (â;..;)â (")(")
HYT gangster Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.05.16 08:10:00 - [367] Edited by: HYT gangster on 16/05/2008 08:11:42 stephanis before you ***** cran WHEN YOU KNOW WHY. he wants people to train for things WHEN YOU KNOW WHY he makes people spider tank WHEN YOU KNOW WHY he GIVES!!! people drugs to use.. Just Because you wanted to fly rifters n tristans at a gate camp dosnt mean the muffins is bad.. you left because you didnt like the way it worked... your twisting it to make cranberry look like a narky little bsterd Well he's not, anyway your **ing to muffins counts for **, we get it all the time.. just your saying .. muffins wanted to be better at eve and woulnt let me fly my tristan on the gate or my omen in a fleetbattle :-( second of all. you called yourself out.. i.e your first posts on this thread. and for not very active eve players your pritty dam active on the forums.. Join The Muffin Factory
HYT gangster Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.05.16 08:16:00 - [368] Edited by: HYT gangster on 16/05/2008 08:17:14 surfins good job i niver heard you on vent.. this would be a long ass post on every single defect in your voice and speach.. are you english?? also are you a night elf mohawk in world of warcraft? Join The Muffin Factory
HYT gangster Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.05.16 08:19:00 - [369] i donated 7 pence this week to solve world hunger.... that makes me a good person..... Join The Muffin Factory
HYT gangster Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.05.16 08:24:00 - [370] this is how this should be done... get all the suspects.. line em up.... shoot em all.. and hope one of them was the culprit... Skills Required: anti humanitarian level 5 Natzi level 5 Sharpshooting level 5 Join The Muffin Factory

Rhak Amharr Minmatar Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.05.16 08:51:00 - [371] Originally by: HYT gangster this is how this should be done... get all the suspects.. line em up.... shoot em all.. and hope one of them was the culprit... Skills Required: anti humanitarian level 5 Natzi level 5 Sharpshooting level 5 You either forgot Bondage 5 or Motion Prediction 5 :) Seriously though, this thread is getting to the point where it's overly ridiculous. Not even german sitcoms are as ridiculous as this thread has become. InternetZ hateZ is badZ, mkayZ?
Stephannus Calimben Trill Crabulas Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2008.05.16 08:56:00 - [372] Originally by: HYT gangster Edited by: HYT gangster on 16/05/2008 08:11:42 stephanis before you ***** cran WHEN YOU KNOW WHY. he wants people to train for things WHEN YOU KNOW WHY he makes people spider tank WHEN YOU KNOW WHY he GIVES!!! people drugs to use.. Just Because you wanted to fly rifters n tristans at a gate camp dosnt mean the muffins is bad.. you left because you didnt like the way it worked... your twisting it to make cranberry look like a narky little bsterd Well he's not, anyway your **ing to muffins counts for *, we get it all the time.. just your saying .. muffins wanted to be better at eve and woulnt let me fly my tristan on the gate or my omen in a fleetbattle :-( second of all. you called yourself out.. i.e your first posts on this thread. and for not very active eve players your pritty dam active on the forums.. I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say? Cran IS* a snarky little ***, and if my opinion doesn't count for , then yours doesn't count for half a , since i was in muffins for twice as long as you've been so far. Also, how'd i call myself out? I posted a pity response for Cran, since account hacking sucks, and he quotes it and uses it to accuse me of hacking his ***** account? And who says I'm not an active eve player?
Stephannus Calimben Trill Crabulas Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2008.05.16 08:56:00 - [373] Originally by: Rhak Amharr Originally by: HYT gangster this is how this should be done... get all the suspects.. line em up.... shoot em all.. and hope one of them was the culprit... Skills Required: anti humanitarian level 5 Natzi level 5 Sharpshooting level 5 You either forgot Bondage 5 or Motion Prediction 5 :) Seriously though, this thread is getting to the point where it's overly ridiculous. Not even german sitcoms are as ridiculous as this thread has become. InternetZ hateZ is badZ, mkayZ? Are german sitcoms exceptionally bad or something?
Lucidia fern Amarr mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.05.16 13:20:00 - [374] Edited by: Lucidia fern on 16/05/2008 13:20:51 Originally by: Stephannus Calimben Sounds to me like this was an inside job, not that anyone ever thought it wasnt. I wouldn't say that any of us HATED you, we just didn't trust you, and didn't understand why cran (the least trusting person in the world) did. Seemed like he'd been blinded by the web dev help you gave him, and was opening himself up to you robbing him blind. We all left muffins months ago now, but from what we remember when we left you were the most likely culprit (though i'm sure you guys got more peeps in corp that are untrustworthy now, alot of pirates tend to be just that). I'd love to know if the same person who just ripped him off was the same person who tipped those guys off about the corp cran's alt was in (the one that wardeced his freighter alt corp and ganked it in jita) Surly the fact that cran trusted me so easily when even youÆve said how hard it is to gain crans trust is enough to show that i was trusted with good reason. never have i fallen out with cran, nor have i ever needed isk , ive always been happy with what i have. I donÆt see why i would want to steal from cran and then make it blatantly obvious it was me .... sharing the information with synthetic frontiers yeh cause thatÆs a sure good move to make sure im not caught , only give the information to my ex corp that was also part of the alliance. oh and then stick around and support cran and the corp during this mess . thatÆs like a rapist doing a woman silly then leaving a box of tissues and a mint on the pillow , hell why not just leave his name and address while hes there save the police the hassle Join The Muffin Factory
Radical Mole	Posted - 2008.05.16 13:21:00 - [375] I would like to personaly congratulate the Muffin Factory ona successful 4 year(?) Pirating campiagn. You can tell it was successful becuase of all the love this thread is recieving. I believe this one even surpassed the unions thread! Keep spreading the Joy muffin man!
Nexus Kinnon Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2008.05.16 14:47:00 - [376] Edited by: Nexus Kinnon on 16/05/2008 14:53:21 Originally by: Bodhisattvas Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Well, I snipped it until CCP made a decision since I don't really want to get banned just for relaying information. I'd just like to reiterate that I have had nothing to do with cran's corp theft/account theft issue. Back peddle much sweet pea ? I'm not backpeddling from the fact that I think muffin is a ** corp. I posted proof, now STFU plz. edit; this thread is a joke and Bodhisvattis is just feeding the fire with terrible flames and unbased attacks. "Stephanie"? Come on. Try a little harder at least. In any case, I hope your corp dies a horrible and slow death. Not because your account got hacked, but because it deserves to because of how e it is. HYT Gangster, nice quadruple post, nice racially insensitive insults, good work all round. edit2; Originally by:** Radical Mole words oh snap it's another person who hasn't read the thread! Amazing!
Tyr Vaantau Amarr Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2008.05.16 15:40:00 - [377] Wow, somebody just flew a drama-nyx into the side of this thread. Regardless, I still want my money. Lucidia? Cranberry? MONEY! ------
Archa Caldari Chickens with an Attitude No Law	Posted - 2008.05.16 15:41:00 - [378] Sorry to hear that you got hacked cranberry, I could say stuff like, was your computer well secure and all that kind of crap but that doesn't help you. What does surprises me is the lack of response time by ccp with these kind of incidents. I would think that the first hours after a hack maybe even days after a hack are very crucial in reversing the proces in case something did go wrong. The longer you wait the more time it takes before you can reverse everything. Good luck, Greets Archa
Niobe Up in smoke	Posted - 2008.05.16 17:42:00 - [379] unlucky cran, hopefully ccp will sort it for you.
Ehranavaar	Posted - 2008.05.16 18:28:00 - [380] if the muffins are going to lay down and die would they please get on with it. 14 pages now is just a wee bit much for this kind of mostly pointless drama.

Captain Bringdown Minmatar Rage Against the Answering Machine	Posted - 2008.05.16 18:38:00 - [381] Originally by: Ehranavaar if the muffins are going to lay down and die would they please get on with it. 14 pages now is just a wee bit much for this kind of mostly pointless drama. Shouldve joined the popcorn business then
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.05.16 19:57:00 - [382] Originally by: Archa Sorry to hear that you got hacked cranberry, I could say stuff like, was your computer well secure and all that kind of crap but that doesn't help you. What does surprises me is the lack of response time by ccp with these kind of incidents. I would think that the first hours after a hack maybe even days after a hack are very crucial in reversing the proces in case something did go wrong. The longer you wait the more time it takes before you can reverse everything. Good luck, Greets Archa Unless CCP did check it all out and found out that this is an elaborate inside job corp theft in progress and have taken the hands off stance. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Bodhisattvas Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2008.05.16 20:17:00 - [383] Edited by: Bodhisattvas on 16/05/2008 20:22:04 Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Edited by: Nexus Kinnon on 16/05/2008 14:53:21 Originally by: Bodhisattvas Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Well, I snipped it until CCP made a decision since I don't really want to get banned just for relaying information. I'd just like to reiterate that I have had nothing to do with cran's corp theft/account theft issue. Back peddle much sweet pea ? I'm not backpeddling from the fact that I think muffin is a ** corp. I posted proof, now STFU plz. edit; this thread is a joke and Bodhisvattis is just feeding the fire with terrible flames and unbased attacks. "Stephanie"? Come on. Try a little harder at least. In any case, I hope your corp dies a horrible and slow death. Not because your account got hacked, but because it deserves to because of how e it is. HYT Gangster, nice quadruple post, nice racially insensitive insults, good work all round. edit2; Originally by:** Radical Mole words oh snap it's another person who hasn't read the thread! Amazing! No my name calling was slightly different, Stephanus with emphasise on the imbedded link. Whatever your thoughts on muffin factory etc its a terrible thing to happen to anyone. CCP is dealing with it and you thinking your constant whinging will have any bearing on the outcome is amusing. Icing on the cake you being so stupid as to post alleged login details thereby incriminating yourself in the process.
Luma Rahl Rage For Order Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2008.05.16 21:32:00 - [384] Originally by: Bodhisattvas Edited by: Bodhisattvas on 16/05/2008 20:22:04 No my name calling was slightly different, Stephanus with emphasise on the imbedded link. Whatever your thoughts on muffin factory etc its a terrible thing to happen to anyone. CCP is dealing with it and you thinking your constant whinging will have any bearing on the outcome is amusing. Icing on the cake you being so stupid as to post alleged login details thereby incriminating yourself in the process. How old are you, 13? Your overuse of the "anus" in-joke thing is entirely over-the-top juvenile. But please, by all means, keep up the great work making your OWN self look like an ass.
Alowishus mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.05.16 21:37:00 - [385] I am 27 and I love anus jokes because butts are funny. Maturity is overrated. We are all playing a space ship game, after all. If I wanted to be mature I'd go to work. Wait. I am at work. ****. That's all I have to say about this matter at this point. Join The Muffin Factory
Luma Rahl Rage For Order Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2008.05.16 21:41:00 - [386] Tells me all I need to know, tbh.
Alowishus mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.05.16 21:45:00 - [387] Originally by: Luma Rahl Tells me all I need to know, tbh. You're right dude. Being a boring, judgmental stick in the mud makes you far superior to me. Eve needs more people like you, you're so fun to be around! Join The Muffin Factory
Luma Rahl Rage For Order Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2008.05.16 21:59:00 - [388] Originally by: Alowishus Originally by: Luma Rahl Tells me all I need to know, tbh. You're right dude. Being a boring, judgmental stick in the mud makes you far superior to me. Eve needs more people like you, you're so fun to be around! You know me so well! Thanks for playing along. Gotta go... I need to make some more popcorn. Keep the butt-love going strong!
SloBones Trill Crabulas Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2008.05.16 22:21:00 - [389] Originally by: Lucidia fern Edited by: Lucidia fern on 16/05/2008 13:20:51 Originally by: Stephannus Calimben Sounds to me like this was an inside job, not that anyone ever thought it wasnt. I wouldn't say that any of us HATED you, we just didn't trust you, and didn't understand why cran (the least trusting person in the world) did. Seemed like he'd been blinded by the web dev help you gave him, and was opening himself up to you robbing him blind. We all left muffins months ago now, but from what we remember when we left you were the most likely culprit (though i'm sure you guys got more peeps in corp that are untrustworthy now, alot of pirates tend to be just that). I'd love to know if the same person who just ripped him off was the same person who tipped those guys off about the corp cran's alt was in (the one that wardeced his freighter alt corp and ganked it in jita) Surly the fact that cran trusted me so easily when even youÆve said how hard it is to gain crans trust is enough to show that i was trusted with good reason. never have i fallen out with cran, nor have i ever needed isk , ive always been happy with what i have. I donÆt see why i would want to steal from cran and then make it blatantly obvious it was me .... sharing the information with synthetic frontiers yeh cause thatÆs a sure good move to make sure im not caught , only give the information to my ex corp that was also part of the alliance. oh and then stick around and support cran and the corp during this mess . thatÆs like a rapist doing a woman silly then leaving a box of tissues and a mint on the pillow , hell why not just leave his name and address while hes there save the police the hassle That's true youÆre sticking around so when the time comes you alt that has the stolen goods can move them and you are never expected. You really think people are that dumb. Oh look everyone Lucedia is sticking around and helping out surely means he couldnÆt have done it. Please give me a ***** break. As for you HYT you dumb ass I donÆt fly a Tristan or a rifter while in Muffin factory maybe if you did some research first you would see this but oh wait you are too stupid to do this. You are trying to single out 3 guys who at our peak were some of the top killers in muffin factory you stupid **. Ships flown Steph's ships Quani's ships We Are Recruiting
Joe Starbreaker	Posted - 2008.05.16 22:32:00 - [390] Is this still going on? I've been good and read all 14 pages... can I have a Dreadnought? ---------------- [insert signature here]



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