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Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.13 18:30:00 - [31] Ugh. All these threads about how the UI is so terrible... Yeah, it DOES have some issues that could stand some changing, but you know what? If it were THAT ***** bad, none of you pussies would've played past the 14-day trial. If you can't read, then don't blame the UI for not changing "Self destruct" to "Cancel self destruct," learn to read instead and then you wouldn't NEED it to make that change for you. If you don't know that your ship doesn't HAVE a drone bay to open, then maybe you need to go back and go through the tutorials again; and if that still doesn't help you, then you can fly around in confusion with a bunch of Acolyte I's in your cargo hold, wondering why you can't launch them to fight for you. They've got the spot on their website for people to apply for the job - I bet if you apply for the job and are actually qualified to do it and got hired (in other words, if you actually know what the you're talking about to begin with) you'd all find it a lot more complicated than you seem to think it is. /rant Originally by:** techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.05.13 18:30:00 - [32] Originally by: Cailais Dammit - nobody offers me a job at CCP. C. Waterboy? Oh, wait, they don't drink water in that building, I think the "Beer-carrier" position is more likely...
Insidi Us Amarr Suicidal Mercenaries Pure.	Posted - 2008.05.13 18:30:00 - [33] CCP needs to have a job for the crime/smuggling/bounty hunting side of the game, so I can use my Criminology degree and ever-so-willingly move to Iceland. Me love you long time. By the way, I really wish there was a way to tell where a post ends and a signature starts.
Cailais Amarr VITOC Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2008.05.13 18:30:00 - [34] Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: Cailais Dammit - nobody offers me a job at CCP. C. I heard your csm moderation on ts, you have a nice voice--will you narrate my life Um...thanks - but I think narrating your entire life (age dependant of course) might go on for a while, and its much more fun living a life than recounting one. I am, of course, available as the new voice of auroror. C. A new look at Local - IDEA
Lubomir Penev interimo	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:06:00 - [35] Originally by: Benco97 The current UI allows me to do anything I'd like to do in game, if I mis-click then I, YES ME, I MIS-CLICKED. By that reasoning why drive a Ferrari when a Trabant can get you to the same places. The UI is full of small annoying stuff, that add up to a pretty crappy experience when you think of what it could be. -- Heat, easy to burn your mods by mistake, hard to get it to work when you need it the most. Well designed interface CCP!
Benco97 Gallente Exchangable Properties	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:08:00 - [36] Originally by: Lubomir Penev By that reasoning why drive a Ferrari when a Trabant can get you to the same places. The UI is full of small annoying stuff, that add up to a pretty crappy experience when you think of what it could be. I WOULD rather drive a Trabant than a Ferrari thankyouverymuch. Originally by: Kirjava This man speaks the truth, when he farts we count the length in seconds and make squillions buying winning lottery tickets.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:12:00 - [37] Originally by: Benco97 Originally by: Lubomir Penev By that reasoning why drive a Ferrari when a Trabant can get you to the same places. The UI is full of small annoying stuff, that add up to a pretty crappy experience when you think of what it could be. I WOULD rather drive a Trabant than a Ferrari thankyouverymuch. 19:10:05 RhetoricalQuestion is already Rhetorical. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Shionoya Risa The Xenodus Initiative. Overclockers Podpilot Services	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:13:00 - [38] Originally by: Erotic Irony 19:10:05 RhetoricalQuestion is already Rhetorical. Oh how I laughed -----
Alz Shado Ever Flow	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:16:00 - [39] I like right-click context sensitive menus -- in fact, I don't think they're used enough. Splitting stacks in the hangar, for instance, shouldn't require a shift-click. Granted, some options like "Buy this skill that I'm already training" seem kind of silly, but someone somewhere must have needed it. I think what the interface really needs is a click-drag select box. Being able to drag a box around the hostiles/roids/items you want to perform one action on would be a great timesaver, and something that's been in common UI's since Windows 3.1's file manager. //// ---------=== []= ---------=== \\\\ Rifter(RedBad) "Kill a man one is a murderer; kill a million, a conqueror; kill them all, a God." -- Jean Rostand
Doc Fury	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:20:00 - [40] Originally by: CCP Lingorm it is also a matter of resources and well we must admit that part of our graphics framework needs a complete rewrite ... it is slow and cumbersome ... but it is happening ... Translation: "All our resources are currently dedicated elsewhere so we can roll-out yet another expansion, so you will have to live with the same crappy UI until after that. We have been trying to hire a UI developer for some time, it's just nobody qualified wants to move to iceland..." The dead do not shoo-bop-a-loo-la.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:27:00 - [41] I know who i'm workng for when i'm older
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:29:00 - [42] I'd like a less window oriented UI... Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal. I'm the Juggernaut, *****!
Cori4n Caldari principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:29:00 - [43] Originally by: Erotic Irony 19:10:05 RhetoricalQuestion is already Rhetorical. You know this bugs me because it's not right. The real message is Module Name is already CamelCaseEffect. Putting camel case in the first spot just kind of seems odd to me
Xaen Caldari Caritas.	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:53:00 - [44] Originally by: Cori4n Originally by: Erotic Irony 19:10:05 RhetoricalQuestion is already Rhetorical. You know this bugs me because it's not right. The real message is Module Name is already CamelCaseEffect. Putting camel case in the first spot just kind of seems odd to me 15:51:37 ForumPost is already PhraseRhetorically - Support fixing the UI\|Suggest Jita fixes\|Compact logs
Winterblink Body Count Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:56:00 - [45] Originally by: Anubis Xian I'd like a less window oriented UI... Would text-based suffice? warp drive active \| nature vraie
Serena DeVire Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.05.13 20:04:00 - [46] Originally by: Lubomir Penev Originally by: Zeba Originally by: LaVista Vista Wasn't T20's official title, actually UI Developer? I think what Xean is trying to say is that even though there are some Devs with that title they really are not. But eh to me the UI is mostly fine. A bit annoying at inoppertune moments but that just adds to the randomness of pvp at times. Saying that I wouldn't mind a few of the moar hateful bugs getting sorted. Yeah, "Open Drone Bay" not grayed on ships without one, "Self destruct" not changing to "Cancel self destruct" once you initiated it, and many more like that are the sign of a polished and professionaly designed UI. Just because you got used to mediocrity doesn't mean it's OK. Unless someone is terminally stupid, they really should be able to figure those things out themselves tbh.
Frug Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.05.13 20:07:00 - [47] The OP is entirely correct. Hire someone competent who has studied human factors for eve. The game is big enough to justify it now. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Xaen Caldari Caritas.	Posted - 2008.05.13 20:13:00 - [48] Originally by: Serena DeVire Originally by: Lubomir Penev Yeah, "Open Drone Bay" not grayed on ships without one, "Self destruct" not changing to "Cancel self destruct" once you initiated it, and many more like that are the sign of a polished and professionaly designed UI. Just because you got used to mediocrity doesn't mean it's OK. Unless someone is terminally stupid, they really should be able to figure those things out themselves tbh. Just because you can get by doesn't mean we shouldn't strive for improvement. Back in the day Yahoo search worked sufficed. Does that mean Larry Page and Sergey Brin should not have started a little project that they thought could do a better job? You see what it is. I see what it could be. - Support fixing the UI\|Suggest Jita fixes\|Compact logs
Hannobaal Gallente Shadow Forces Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.13 20:24:00 - [49] Edited by: Hannobaal on 13/05/2008 20:24:51 Originally by: Xaen Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Some often repeated tasks require 1,800% more physical user actions than truly necessary. Or do you never repackage everything in your hangar, then stack it? What about repackaging and stacking everything in the hangar? That's very easy and fast to do.
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.13 20:25:00 - [50] Originally by: Xaen Originally by: Serena DeVire Originally by: Lubomir Penev Yeah, "Open Drone Bay" not grayed on ships without one, "Self destruct" not changing to "Cancel self destruct" once you initiated it, and many more like that are the sign of a polished and professionaly designed UI. Just because you got used to mediocrity doesn't mean it's OK. Unless someone is terminally stupid, they really should be able to figure those things out themselves tbh. Just because you can get by doesn't mean we shouldn't strive for improvement. Back in the day Yahoo search worked sufficed. Does that mean Larry Page and Sergey Brin should not have started a little project that they thought could do a better job? You see what it is. I see what it could be. Follow the link and apply for the job then, IF you're qualified - hasn't this thread run its course already? Continuation isn't going to yield anything worth while, just more whining about inconsequential nonsense amirite? Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.05.13 20:27:00 - [51] Originally by: CCP Lingorm Xaen .... You are free to fix it. Aww man, I could so do this one, but my wife would kill me if I moved to Iceland! What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Ulstan	Posted - 2008.05.13 20:31:00 - [52] EVE is a great game, but so often you wind up fighting the UI. But they are making improvements. The new over view tabs are great. Remember how you used to not be able to jump from your orders directly to the market browser? That was a huge pain. Or how about trying to repair stuff before the new repair fixes? Horribly annoying. Of course, trying to get the directional scanner to filter out trash while still showing scanner probes is pretty much impossible. That's probably my #1 UI gripe atm :p
Javiir Soban Caldari Amarrian Religious Reformation Society Exalted	Posted - 2008.05.13 20:40:00 - [53] Originally by: CCP Ability to complete projects on a timely basis with minimal supervision and attention to detail You know this could be interpreted as meaning two things 1.minimal supervision and an attention to detail OR 2.minimal supervision and minimal attention to detail Based on these forums I'm thinking its 2 --- --- --- --- --- My views don't reflect those of my corporation, and definitely not those of my alliance as I don't have an alliance :p .
Shionoya Risa The Xenodus Initiative. Overclockers Podpilot Services	Posted - 2008.05.13 20:42:00 - [54] Originally by: Javiir Soban Originally by: CCP Ability to complete projects on a timely basis with minimal supervision and attention to detail You know this could be interpreted as meaning two things I should hope that anyone applying for a job, anywhere would be able to tell which one is the correct interpretation. -----
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.05.13 20:45:00 - [55] Originally by: Hannobaal Edited by: Hannobaal on 13/05/2008 20:24:51 Originally by: Xaen Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Some often repeated tasks require 1,800% more physical user actions than truly necessary. Or do you never repackage everything in your hangar, then stack it? What about repackaging and stacking everything in the hangar? That's very easy and fast to do. quoting failure ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Javiir Soban Caldari Amarrian Religious Reformation Society Exalted	Posted - 2008.05.13 20:59:00 - [56] I know it's supposed to be 1, but looking at the state of the forums,(random log-outs, getting logged out when you go to post, etc.), it seems more like 2. --- --- --- --- --- My views don't reflect those of my corporation, and definitely not those of my alliance as I don't have an alliance :p .
ElCoCo KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.13 21:06:00 - [57] Originally by: CCP Lingorm ...but it is also a matter of resources and ... So about that resetting overview,drone and fleet windows thingy. I'm pretty sure microsoft (as an example) would pretty much rush to fix MS Word if whenever you started it up or opened a new file all your toolbars were reset and cascaded on your screen It's been what? 2months? If you can't fix "simple" stuff that frustrate everyone who bothers to undock, every single time they do it, are you surprised that ppl are sceptical about your ability to work on more important stuff like lag, faction warfare and all that jig? In essence, don't forget the simple stuff! Boink!
Alz Shado Ever Flow	Posted - 2008.05.13 21:11:00 - [58] Originally by: ElCoCo So about that resetting overview,drone and fleet windows thingy... In essence, don't forget the simple stuff! Look at it this way -- guys who are working on the UI are guys aren't working on Faction Warfare or Ambulation. Put them in the position to cause the least amount of damage, right? //// ---------=== []= ---------=== \\\\ Rifter(RedBad) "Kill a man one is a murderer; kill a million, a conqueror; kill them all, a God." -- Jean Rostand
Tommy TenKreds Animal Mercantile Executive	Posted - 2008.05.13 21:23:00 - [59] Originally by: Havohej Originally by: Xaen You see what it is. I see what it could be. Follow the link and apply for the job then, IF you're qualified - hasn't this thread run its course already? Continuation isn't going to yield anything worth while, just more whining about inconsequential nonsense amirite? Not on this one mate, no. Xaen has this utterly consequential one by throat. Bandures > tommy you like a cowboy harry )
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.13 21:25:00 - [60] Originally by: Xaen Originally by: Havohej Follow the link and apply for the job then, IF you're qualified - hasn't this thread run its course already? Continuation isn't going to yield anything worth while, just more whining about inconsequential nonsense amirite? That noise you hear is my point whizzing past your head. My bad, I thought it was whining. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong

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