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Khudo
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:33:00 -
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Lol, CCP is solving LAG
I'll sell my char Bye bye money
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F90OEX
F9X
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:35:00 -
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Watch with every whine and cry will be put forward for the CSMs to deal with... less work for CCP.
And with that I bet CCP are laughing all the way to the bank
Slick move ..
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Sabrina Treadehugger
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lord XSiV
Originally by: Garia666 CCP made some calculations to gain more PROFFIT.
So good for them. Shows that they have some good business acumen.
As for the rest of the complainers in the thread it is a good thing that the loss of the non-existant revenue stream you represent if you did actually go through with your threats to quit will be replaced at exact the same rate as expired accounts. Yet another smart business decision - replace your dead weight portions of your customer base with better quality longer term clients.
But chances are the theory that most whiners are always bluffing when they pull out the 'quit' card will unfortunately come true.
It's also a good thing that CCP isn't taking the CSM seriously; however this 'issue' will at least give them something to keep them entertained for a while. Then again with only an 11% voter turnout you can't actually take them seriously as representative of the community....
wow must be nice being a ccp fangirl and playing solo
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Lord XSiV
Digital Research - Omega Protocol
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sabrina Treadehugger
Originally by: Lord XSiV
Originally by: Garia666 CCP made some calculations to gain more PROFFIT.
So good for them. Shows that they have some good business acumen.
As for the rest of the complainers in the thread it is a good thing that the loss of the non-existant revenue stream you represent if you did actually go through with your threats to quit will be replaced at exact the same rate as expired accounts. Yet another smart business decision - replace your dead weight portions of your customer base with better quality longer term clients.
But chances are the theory that most whiners are always bluffing when they pull out the 'quit' card will unfortunately come true.
It's also a good thing that CCP isn't taking the CSM seriously; however this 'issue' will at least give them something to keep them entertained for a while. Then again with only an 11% voter turnout you can't actually take them seriously as representative of the community....
wow must be nice being a ccp fangirl and playing solo
You sound a little bitter, would you like a lollipop?
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kaian Voskhod Edited by: Kaian Voskhod on 23/05/2008 08:15:46 **** YOU CCP
I LL TRASH MY CHARACTERS AGAINST SOME MONEY (isk?!)
LAG + UNBALANCE + ****TY CHANGES + WTF AMBULATION, and then that ?!
If you do it, yo loose 3 account.
BYE !
surprisingly enough, less people = less lag, so by all means, go ahead.
Also, what happens when your neighbourhood supermarket doubles the price on coca cola? You dont whine, you go to the competition
I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them. |
Kiiikoooloool
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:38:00 -
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Quote: You sound a little bitter, would you like a lollipop?
AHAHAHAHA, go sock wrangler for money (to pay your account =)
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Sabrina Treadehugger
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lord XSiV
Originally by: Sabrina Treadehugger
Originally by: Lord XSiV
Originally by: Garia666 CCP made some calculations to gain more PROFFIT.
So good for them. Shows that they have some good business acumen.
As for the rest of the complainers in the thread it is a good thing that the loss of the non-existant revenue stream you represent if you did actually go through with your threats to quit will be replaced at exact the same rate as expired accounts. Yet another smart business decision - replace your dead weight portions of your customer base with better quality longer term clients.
But chances are the theory that most whiners are always bluffing when they pull out the 'quit' card will unfortunately come true.
It's also a good thing that CCP isn't taking the CSM seriously; however this 'issue' will at least give them something to keep them entertained for a while. Then again with only an 11% voter turnout you can't actually take them seriously as representative of the community....
wow must be nice being a ccp fangirl and playing solo
You sound a little bitter, would you like a lollipop?
troll answer nr.64 nice
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Khudo
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:41:00 -
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Quote: surprisingly enough, less people = less lag, so by all means, go ahead.
That's true. CCP is solving lag, that's funny how they do it.
Quote: Also, what happens when your neighbourhood supermarket doubles the price on coca cola? You dont whine, you go to the competition
I have the chance to buy my food via a direct market. No super market or parasites like: food is sold directly from the producer to the consumer. Better quality food, lower prices. Yeah, that's competition.
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wncc1701p1
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:44:00 -
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having more than 1 account this is unfortunate for me, i was debating on closing 1 account down to save some money, well with this decision it has made my mind up, i will be closing an account down, so it is ccp that will lose out here, also along with other members that i know of they are closing down 2nd acconts too, so looks like ccp may have shot themselves in the foot here
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Lelulie
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jantje Smit
Originally by: Mac Maniac Jantje Smit, Why don't you try to use your head for something other than a hatrack?
Because thousands of UK suscribers have been avoiding costs by paying in $, im not suprised they upped the price.
UK customers have been avoiding tax through GTCs, CCP gets the same money.
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Sabrina Treadehugger
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:49:00 -
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i can still avoid paying in euros through PaybyCash
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:50:00 -
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Tax doesnt even come lose to explaining price difference between paying with dollars and other currencies.
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Lord XSiV
Digital Research - Omega Protocol
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: Sabrina Treadehugger i can still avoid paying in euros through PaybyCash
So you buy your lollipops in dollars?
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Max Teranous
Teranous Productions
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lelulie UK customers have been avoiding tax through GTCs, CCP gets the same money.
Get a clue.
Not true, that would only be the case if you saved 17.5% comparing paying direct by CC or using GTC's. The actual saving was more than that - hence CCP was losing revinue.
This is the first price rise in 5 years, well past time. Just look at what petrol prices have done in the same time frame.
Max
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Anti Excedrin
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Tax doesnt even come lose to explaining price difference between paying with dollars and other currencies.
And surely you've crunched the numbers to justify that claim right? I mean it couldn't possibly be that the tax likely explains about half of the difference right?
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lady2isis
Philae Temple
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:55:00 -
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agree with the idea removing 30 & 90 day GTC is crap~
/signed i am who i am; therefor i am Her |
Sabrina Treadehugger
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lord XSiV
Originally by: Sabrina Treadehugger i can still avoid paying in euros through PaybyCash
So you buy your lollipops in dollars?
Does your mommy know you're trolling ?
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Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lelulie UK customers have been avoiding tax through GTCs, CCP gets the same money.
WTS, information on exchange rates. This was really bound to happen though, the only strange thing is that they didn't increase the credit card rates. Pretty sure they're going to lose customers anyway, might as well increase tehm all.
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Heroldyn
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Max Teranous
Originally by: Lelulie UK customers have been avoiding tax through GTCs, CCP gets the same money.
Get a clue.
Not true, that would only be the case if you saved 17.5% comparing paying direct by CC or using GTC's. The actual saving was more than that - hence CCP was losing revinue.
This is the first price rise in 5 years, well past time. Just look at what petrol prices have done in the same time frame.
Max
i dont think one should compare mmo prices to petrol prices. wouldnt it make more sense to compare mmo prices to other mmo's prices ? as far as i can tell prices of wow decreased at last.. hmm whatever.
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.05.23 09:03:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 23/05/2008 09:04:24 Serious stop whining about the price raise. Looking at the dollar exchange rates it didnt come really as a surprise.
For those who say USD used to be much more worth then euro, that never happened. At its max one USD was worth arround 1.15 euro. That is nothing compared to the current rates.
USD rates:
The problem is that CCP just doesnt admit it they did it to raise prices and that they removed the 30 and 90 day GTCs, which just plain sucks.
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Innaara
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.05.23 09:08:00 -
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Let's hope Jumpgate will live up to it's expectations. After knowing CCP for over a year now, I totally hate it's attitude. Introducing crappy options like factional warfare and not fixing any real issues.
Luckily I have so many GTC's against the lowest Australian Dollar rates, it's almost a joke. It'll last me for 3 years if I don't sell them for isk (in EU money it would last a year). By that time another sci-fi game will rise.
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Khudo
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Posted - 2008.05.23 09:10:00 -
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Quote: like factional warfare and not fixing any real issues.
Quote: TRUE
ABULATION = Crap Factionnal Warfare = Crap Changing EW frigz skin = WTF ?!
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Lag = Still waiting Killing Isk sellers = still waiting Solving balance issues = still waiting...
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CCP is not a game provider ... It's business only.
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okcerg
Fellowship of The Outer Ring
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Posted - 2008.05.23 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
The problem is that CCP just doesnt admit it they did it to raise prices and that they removed the 30 and 90 day GTCs, which just plain sucks.
I agree the 30d GTC will be missed... But how could they raise the prices AND keep selling 30d GTCs. Think about it it's just not possible. They would have to rise 30d GTC price to 21$ so a european could buy it for 14Ç. That's nonsense when the 30d CC sub is way cheaper for americans.
in short: HOW COULD THEY MAKE EUROPEANS PAY IN Çuros? By getting rid of GTC? No way, it would be heaven for ISK farmers.
So guys, have a thought and try to find how could CCP make europeans pay in Ç WITHOUT removing GTCs
They came up with a good compromise imo...
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.05.23 09:17:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 23/05/2008 09:20:54 It would imo be strange if you force people to pay in a certain currency. If i can buy exactly the same thing somewhere else much cheaper, then i buy it somewhere else much cheaper.
@khudo, many people are looking forward to FW...
Quote: Lag = Still waiting Killing Isk sellers = still waiting Solving balance issues = still waiting...
1. Stop blobbing, lag will never be totally solved and it is unrelated to FW, ambulation, etc. 2. Killing ISK buyers is much more efficient. And looking at the ammount of people still complaining about negative isk balance, it works pretty well. And ammount of isk seller advertising is reduced alot. 3. There will always be balance issues unless we all just fly an ibis. There are still enough imbalances yes, but in general it is quite well balanced imo.
And you can think grammar is overrated, most dont.
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Innaara
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.05.23 09:19:00 -
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Edited by: Innaara on 23/05/2008 09:20:02 Edited by: Innaara on 23/05/2008 09:19:26
Originally by: Khudo
AMBULATION = Crap
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They just want more chicks in the game and roleplaying noobs.
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CCP is not a game provider ... It's business only.
They're hoping that the playerbase will stablise after a few months of decrease. People tend to shout a lot, but in the end they will pay. CCP knows that. The have no competition in this genre and the only way for CCP to actually listen and do something is a massive los of players to another MMO (God, let's really hope Jumpgate wil be utterly cool).
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Anti Excedrin
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Posted - 2008.05.23 09:33:00 -
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Edited by: Anti Excedrin on 23/05/2008 09:35:12
Originally by: Furb Killer Serious stop whining about the price raise. Looking at the dollar exchange rates it didnt come really as a surprise.
For those who say USD used to be much more worth then euro, that never happened. At its max one USD was worth arround 1.15 euro. That is nothing compared to the current rates.
1) At the moment all subscription rates are the same. I highly suspect they will stay the same.
2) The Euro has to be Worth 1.245 Dollars in order for the cash CCP gets from a Euro subscription to equal the cash they get from a US subscription. God bless the VAT eh? Until that was reached Europeans were in essence not paying 'their fair share.' CCP themselves have cited the VAT as why they were not adjusting Euro prices down when the Euro started to rise.
3) At the moment the difference is greater than the VAT alone will account for. Enjoy the price discrimination and the added increase in price of GTCs in order to make sure you can't get around it. Because get this, the price for GTCs will now approximately reflect the price Europeans pay minus the VAT. IE, you're giving CCP the same amount of cash whether you pay a subscription in Euros or via GTCs.
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Kaian Voskhod
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Posted - 2008.05.23 09:35:00 -
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CCP, youre lame.
Trolls stfu
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Anti Excedrin
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Posted - 2008.05.23 09:40:00 -
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Originally by: Anti Excedrin Because get this, the price for GTCs will now approximately reflect the price Europeans pay minus the VAT. IE, you're giving CCP the same amount of cash whether you pay a subscription in Euros or via GTCs.
The number crunch for that
14.95 Euro * (1 - .245**) = 11.28725 Euro * Currency Conversion = 17.75 USD/Month
34.99 USD / 2 months = 17.495 USD/Month
Whoda thunk it eh?
** 24.5% = the Icelandic VAT
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knob end
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Posted - 2008.05.23 09:56:00 -
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Methinks they should be *****ing down on the macro "players" farming ISK for GTC's rather than the genuine GTC buyers - this "upgrade" is nothing more than a huge d-i-l-d-o up the arse of genuine players
My 2nd accounts main is now up for sale and my 3rd account will be wound down forthwith... I'm seriously thinking of winding down my 2nd account once the sale is complete
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Red Desire
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:17:00 -
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What I don't understand... is the bull****. Just say we are loosing money, we want more money.. due the taxes or whatever, but don't do : "To simplify the ETC reseller program and attune our product offerings with industry standards, CCP will introduce new 60-day EVE Time Codes (ETC) and Game Time Cards (GTC) for $34.99 USD."
Respect us and we will respect you. Most of us are old players,you don't actually have a standard player base here. There are strong bonds between alliances and corporations members, the BBQ's meetings and parties are as usual as the lag is in the game.
We are not blind, we see the crap parts and the good parts. Stop lying and deceiving us, just give us the truth. If not, just because we are such a special community we might give you the bull**** back.
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