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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.05.26 09:32:00 -
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After posting in the game dev to try and figure out what PvE content there is due in FW it appears there is no PvE content in FW which is a big shock. By the time FW comes out it will be 6months since the last expansion and last PvE content. If the next add-on follows the same timeline of 6 months and assuming it has PvE thatÆs a 1 year gap. Even if the next expansion is in less then 6 months thats still a very long time of no new PvE content. If it doesnÆt have PvE in the next addon thats more then 1 year.
Anyone else unhappy about this?
CCP have always in every single expansion catered to both PvP and PvE. Never have PvE people had to go for such a large gap with no new content. We donÆt pay a monthly subscription to go 1 year without new content. In the 4+years of playing Eve there has always been new PvE to do.
No matter how you sugar coat it FW is PvP and no interested to many PvE pilots. Most of the things PvE pilots donÆt like about PvP is still in FW. Building a bridge between PvE and PvP is all good, but not at the expense of no new PvE content. Its just as bad as an expansion with PvE only content. There should always be a mix of the two.
I always thought Eve was full of PvE only people. Eve is not a PvP only games. Surly more PvE players are unhappy about this.
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Spaztick
Canadian Assault Network
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Posted - 2008.05.26 09:40:00 -
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Edited by: Spaztick on 26/05/2008 09:40:50
Sure.
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Kransthow
Victory Not Vengeance
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.05.26 09:41:00 -
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.05.26 09:44:00 -
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You might not like it but Eve is very much a PvE game with lots of people who play it for PvE. Its not PvP only game.
Laugh as much as you like but what I am saying is true unless I missed something about there being PvE planed new content. In which case point it out please and make a constructive post.
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CCP Dionysus
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Posted - 2008.05.26 09:44:00 -
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OMG!
Our super sekret plan is discovered!!!!111
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.26 09:45:00 -
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new missions whit FW... thats PVE
do some research before dropping more carebear tears :)
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Joshua Foiritain
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.26 09:49:00 -
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What makes you think theres no PvE content in EA? FW is the biggest, not the only addition trough EA.
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.05.26 09:50:00 -
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ônew missions whit FW... thats PVEö
As far as I can tell the only new missions are PvP based.
A mission that that puts you at war against players, then sends you 15jumps into enemy controlled space where you are tagged on the overview so anyone can warp to you and kill you is not PvE. ThatÆs very much PvP.
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.26 09:52:00 -
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Edited by: Riho on 26/05/2008 09:53:16
 Originally by: Pottsey
ônew missions whit FW... thats PVEö
As far as I can tell the only new missions are PvP based.
A mission that that puts you at war against players, then sends you 15jumps into enemy controlled space where you are tagged on the overview so anyone can warp to you and kill you is not PvE. ThatÆs very much PvP.
i dont care about rest of the special conditions :P
still... Missions = PVE
you can be ganked in normal missions allso.. that doesnt make missions PVP
EDIT: and .. learn to quote :P you have been posting on these forums for a long time now :P
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.05.26 09:54:00 -
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ôWhat makes you think theres no PvE content in EA? FW is the biggest, not the only addition trough EA.ô
I really hope I am wrong but I have found no evidence of any PvE content due in EA. If just one dev says there is PvE content in a none joking manner I will shut up. Even better if we could get hints at what it would be.
ôu can be ganked in normal missions allso.. that doesnt make missions PVPö
A mission that sends you against other players is PvP. The whole idea is to face other players.
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Efdi
Tritanium Workers Union
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Posted - 2008.05.26 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey
A mission that sends you against other players is PvP. The whole idea is to face other players.
Why don't you shield tank a Navy Mega about it?
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Joshua Foiritain
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.26 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Efdi
Originally by: Pottsey
A mission that sends you against other players is PvP. The whole idea is to face other players.
Why don't you shield tank a Navy Mega about it?
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:04:00 -
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ôhy don't you shield tank a Navy Mega about it?ö
Like many other people I donÆt enjoy PvP I find it boring and none rewarding. I play and pay for Eve due to the PvE content.
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Spaztick
Canadian Assault Network
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:05:00 -
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Your stuff. Gimme.
But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post. |
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CCP Dionysus
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:06:00 -
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You pay and play eve for PvE.
Othere pay and play eve for PvP.
All those new missions and things we put in - totally useless and boring for those PvP players.
We like to share the lub.
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Hannobaal
Shadow Forces Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey
As far as I can tell the only new missions are PvP based.
There's no such thing.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:15:00 -
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if you stopped talking out of your ass I bet more people would listen to you
and rather than "WAH no pve content," how about some "I notice very little pve development how about we try this"
also Does anyone know why people like them static pve environments? there is nothing challenging about missions, unless you are severely under skilled/under equipped
1 patch without pve stuff, better quit and send me all your stuff
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:16:00 -
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Yeah, they should've really stopped at L2 missions
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Kaldira
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:16:00 -
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Edited by: Kaldira on 26/05/2008 10:19:10
Its fair to say there is PVE content but at a high risk of PVP which will not appeal to some.
Im not to sure how well FW will go to be honest, the main issue for me is that I have a lot of Research Agents in Caldi/Amarr space and I will be cutting myself off from them if my faction standings go to low. Going to be very difficult in the end to manage standings so can still get access
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:17:00 -
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ôOthere pay and play eve for PvP.
All those new missions and things we put in - totally useless and boring for those PvP players.
We like to share the lub.ö
What new missions! YouÆre not sharing the lub. Past expansions always had both PvE and PvP content. This one seems to be PvP only and in 4+years is the only expansion to focus on one play style.
As for new missions you hardly added any last expansions. Few where added last expansion and I donÆt call a 1 year gap without new missions balanced content. But still missions are not the only content PvE people can use. New skills, ships, modules e.c.t can all be used by both PvP and PvE people. These give both groups something new to do.
The expansions with new missions for PvE people also had new content for PvP people. ThatÆs the way it should be. No one group should have to go without new content for large amounts of time. ThatÆs how you end up with dropping subscription numbers.
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Ioci
Ioci Exploration
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:19:00 -
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One step at a time, I am guessing. I agree with you but I see a new demand for PvE content in the works. One of the FW aspects is standings and PvPers aren't going to grind L3 missions to upright the standings transactions this addition will influence.
I don't see this or any content upgrade that drives PvE players in to a PvP environment. I can say I went from 100% Pve to PvP in the last few months and it was player side influence, not content influence and the influence that 'turned me' to the dark side requires even more work on the PvP side of the game. The truth is, when it comes to PvE games, Eve is one of the most grueling and cruel out there, yet you still do that rather than PvP.. why? |
Joshua Foiritain
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:19:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 26/05/2008 10:20:10
Originally by: Pottsey
Blah Blah blah
You should stop guessing about things you don't know, iirc a lot of patches include small stuff like new missions for normal agents and or exploration stuff, though this generally isn't advertised much and then theres of course the new faction ships which you can try and shield tank.
Try waiting for the full patch notes/feature list before whining about it.
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Efdi
Tritanium Workers Union
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey
ôhy don't you shield tank a Navy Mega about it?ö
Like many other people I donÆt enjoy PvP I find it boring and none rewarding. I play and pay for Eve due to the PvE content.
Sweet quote. Maybe if you used the quote feature like everyone else, instead of being pretentious, you would've gotten it right.
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:23:00 -
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ôThere's no such thing.ö
A mission that sends you to hunt players and has players sent after you is PvP.
öif you stopped talking out of your ass I bet more people would listen to you
and rather than "WAH no pve content," how about some "I notice very little pve development how about we try this"
I am not talking out my ass, ItÆs not very little pvE development, it is zero PvE development. If I am wrong show me some PvE development due in EA. If your against other players its not PvE.
ô1 patch without pve stuff, better quit and send me all your stuffö
If it was a patch I wouldnÆt have a problem, there is nothing wrong with small patch's having no PvE content. ItÆs an expansion. One expansion with nothing for PvE pilots is unheard of in 4 years of expansions. Missing 1 expansion of PvE content means a 1 year gap of no content if its a 6month cycle of expansions. Surly you think 1 year of no new content is to long?
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:26:00 -
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that pve is oh so rewarding, i get like 20 million for killing ships that are set to orbit me at a set distance and do one damage type with 1 launcher and 1 gun, and die in like 30 seconds!!!
ZOMG!!!!! HALT THE PRESSES!!!! I OUTSMARTED A CRAPTACUALR NPC ALGORITHM!!!!
rage quit and gimme ur stuff already!
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:27:00 -
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Pottsey.. have u even been on test server and tested FW content.... or you just guessing stuff ?
if not... dont post anymore
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Danae Melios
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:28:00 -
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I've found new PvE material in every patch so far, with new missions that cycle into the mix. I'm sure there are new complexes as well, you just have to scan for them. I know that there's right now a bunch of stuff going on in The Bleak Lands that is PvE and almost never mentioned, unless you happen to catch the Ushra-Khan sponsored "mission service" that they are running in the area to take advantage of it. There's threads around somewhere, forget where I saw them.
I consider that to be "new PvE content" even though CCP doesn't talk much about them because they use existing mechanics.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:35:00 -
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still doesn't change the fact that your moaning and *****ing about no pve content. your still not suggesting any solutions. wish one of the ccp guys had the balls to lock the thread for ranting
tbh theres lots of posts around here that are the same only they complain about other things.
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:44:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 26/05/2008 10:44:33
ôthat pve is oh so rewarding, i get like 20 million for killing ships that are set to orbit me at a set distance and do one damage type with 1 launcher and 1 gun, and die in like 30 seconds!!!ö
PvE is more than just missions and combat.
ôZOMG!!!!! HALT THE PRESSES!!!! I OUTSMARTED A CRAPTACUALR NPC ALGORITHM!!!!
rage quit and gimme ur stuff already!ö
Look at it from another prospective. No new PvE content for 1 year the PvE people get bored and quit corps are left without input of isk being created to pay for PvP. PvP has to stop or reduce due to lack of isk.
As for the person talking about my quoting style I have been doing this for over 15years not going to stop now.
ôYou should stop guessing about things you don't know, iirc a lot of patches include small stuff like new missions for normal agents and or exploration stuff,ö
ItÆs not just guessing. I have not seen anything in 6months to do with PvE. ItÆs been 6months since any new PvE content; there is no talk about new PvE content in the next addon. I think thatÆs a valid reason to start getting concerned. Not even came across new missions. Out of the so called 100+ missions from 6months ago me and my corp mates have come across 2 new missions.
ôPottsey.. have u even been on test server and tested FW content.... or you just guessing stuff ?
if not... dont post anymoreô
Your suggesting I am missing something, if so please post it so I can shut up about the lack of PvE.
ôstill doesn't change the fact that your moaning and *****ing about no pve content. your still not suggesting any solutions.ö
New skills that both PvP and PvE people can use like advance shield/cap recharge, advance powergrid/CPU all high ranks, new ships that are useful for both play styles. One I would really like to see are Navy modules that give added bonus when used on Navy ships. Thats great for both PvE and PvP.
Mini FW in empire with 1/3 the rewards, no war dec or PvP and ranks limited to say half way up the tree or less.
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Sarah Tuttle
Plato Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.26 10:45:00 -
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I think your fears (OP) are unfounded. CCP can and does add mission content on a regular basis.
There will be PVE content in the new expansion as you can run missions for the new militas. They are higher risk missions because when you start them your location appears on everyone's HUD, but they are PVE missions nevertheless.
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