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Tiberius Rhavinia
A MAGUS INDUSTRIES Sang Do Oligarchic Democracy
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Posted - 2008.05.31 01:20:00 -
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I was just fighting some EOM Hydras and their similarity to Khanid produced ships got me to wondering, are we ever going to recieve the black nightmares that such a ship would be?
PS sorry for the noobish question
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Tiberius Rhavinia
A MAGUS INDUSTRIES Sang Do Oligarchic Democracy
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Posted - 2008.05.31 01:20:00 -
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I was just fighting some EOM Hydras and their similarity to Khanid produced ships got me to wondering, are we ever going to recieve the black nightmares that such a ship would be?
PS sorry for the noobish question
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Dristra
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.31 01:25:00 -
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We sure hope for a Khanid bs... Support the introduction of well thought out Amarr solutions!
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Dristra
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.31 01:25:00 -
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We sure hope for a Khanid bs... Support the introduction of well thought out Amarr solutions!
I believe rats should avoid you if you have high standing with them. |

Oedus Caro
Cross Roads Ouroboros Cross Combine
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Posted - 2008.05.31 02:22:00 -
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My missile skills suck, so I'd gain nothing of practical value. However, I honestly wouldn't care; an Abaddon in Khanid colors? Sign me up. 
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mama guru
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.31 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dristra We sure hope for a Khanid bs...
Torp Apoc
EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.05.31 06:31:00 -
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Torp Abaddon  Think 7 launchers (plus/minus one, depending on just HOW over/underpowered you want it to be), 25% armor resists bonus and -25% cap recharge time from the base L5 prereq, 5% torp damage bonus and 10% torp flight time from the T2 skill.

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BiggestT
Fun Inc Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.31 07:04:00 -
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That would be cool..finally a REAL cal-ammarr faction bs (the nigtmare doesnt count, it requires no caldari support skills)
"The assymetrical horrors of the motherland will rise, the mechanical beasts will depart from the dark, we will not perish, we will not fail. The Reign of the Caldari State is nigh."
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Ash Bringer
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Posted - 2008.05.31 07:22:00 -
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and make it shield tank :)
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Mastin Dragonfly
Absolutely No Retreat Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.31 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ash Bringer and make it shield tank :)
Die!
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vostok
Suns Of Korhal deadspace society
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Posted - 2008.05.31 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ash Bringer and make it shield tank :)
ok dreaming is one thing but a T2 battleship using torps and shield tanking is called a golem...
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Mastin Dragonfly
Absolutely No Retreat Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.31 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: BiggestT (the nigtmare doesnt count, it requires no caldari support skills)
Shield tank doesn't count?
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FT Diomedes
Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.05.31 10:53:00 -
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It would be nice to see a real armor-tanking BS-class missile boat (the Typhoon doesn't count because it is a Swiss Army knife - and only has 4 missile slots). ------------
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Euriti
Caritas.
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Posted - 2008.05.31 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ash Bringer and make it shield tank :)
YAY LETS CAREBEAR IN MOTSU!
No.
Armor tank ftw in PvP, and if we need more t2 Battleships, it's gotta be Tier 3 tech 2 pvp battleships
*dreams on about t2 hyperion*
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Mimiko Zero
Amiga Emperiet
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Posted - 2008.05.31 13:18:00 -
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amarr BS missile boat? oh YES! abbadon hull for this role? naah, it just doesn't have the "missile boat" look on it. apoc would surley be more suited for this role.
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Dristra
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.31 15:33:00 -
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To bad ccp have stated that there will be no Tech II battleship of the "heavy assault battle ship" type.
Or no pvp able tech II bs in plain terms Support the introduction of well thought out Amarr solutions!
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
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Posted - 2008.05.31 15:53:00 -
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They should just make faction ships for the side factions out of the tier3s. Like, Mordus Rokh, Syndicate Hyperion, Thukker Maelstrom and of course Khanid Abaddon.
And that Khanid Abaddon would of course be a torp boat with 7 launchers, torp velocity and damage bonus (Damage rather than RoF to be different from the CNR) and otherwise in line with other empire faction ships. Or for pure sex, add a 3rd bonus like the pirate faction ships, which in this case would be armor resists.
Make suicide ganking more difficult!
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Euriti
Caritas.
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Posted - 2008.05.31 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar They should just make faction ships for the side factions out of the tier3s. Like, Mordus Rokh, Syndicate Hyperion, Thukker Maelstrom and of course Khanid Abaddon.
And that Khanid Abaddon would of course be a torp boat with 7 launchers, torp velocity and damage bonus (Damage rather than RoF to be different from the CNR) and otherwise in line with other empire faction ships. Or for pure sex, add a 3rd bonus like the pirate faction ships, which in this case would be armor resists.
<3!
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Dristra
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.31 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar They should just make faction ships for the side factions out of the tier3s. Like, Mordus Rokh, Syndicate Hyperion, Thukker Maelstrom and of course Khanid Abaddon.
And that Khanid Abaddon would of course be a torp boat with 7 launchers, torp velocity and damage bonus (Damage rather than RoF to be different from the CNR) and otherwise in line with other empire faction ships. Or for pure sex, add a 3rd bonus like the pirate faction ships, which in this case would be armor resists.
As you say, and all "special" faction ships get the "3rd" bonus Only empire faction ships are cheated of that "3rd" bonus Unless i am sorely mistaken.
Then again khanid is not a special faction, but a under-division of the amarr kingdom, hence: any khanid ship is required to be a tech II amarr ship, and preferably in a class with TWO tech II ships as quite alot of amarr players have very little missile skills, and a option for laser *****s is thereby required. Support the introduction of well thought out Amarr solutions!
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Joe Starbreaker
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Posted - 2008.05.31 16:54:00 -
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It's gotta be a Torpageddon. I can't believe the Redeemer (Amarr Black Ops) isn't black. Surely in a sane world it would be our Torpageddon.
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
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Posted - 2008.05.31 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 31/05/2008 21:39:35
Originally by: Dristra Then again khanid is not a special faction, but a under-division of the amarr kingdom, hence: any khanid ship is required to be a tech II amarr ship
Well, Khanid already have their own T1 faction modules, so I don't see what speaks against them getting T1 faction ships as well. The Black Omen model wants a player-usable adaption badly too, and I am sure there must be some Amarr frig that would look great in pure T1 black as well.
Make suicide ganking more difficult!
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Madam Kaktar
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Posted - 2008.05.31 21:41:00 -
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I'd rather see it as a new tier I BS.
Storyline: with increased hostilities, factions have begun increasing the size of their battleship fleets. Khanid and Caldari did a joint venture to create a new cheap BS. Minmitar have begun refitting mammoths, and Gallente have built a new ship.
Khanid & Caldari are similar looking ships, the Khanid being slightly larger and smoother appearance. Khanid (Amarr): 7 missile hardpoints +5% armor resists -5% cap recharge time Caldari: 5 missile hardpoints +5% missile ROF +5% missile kinetic damage Minmitar: Modified mammoth appearance to look more combat worthy, 6 turret hardpoints +10% large projectile optimal +5% large projectile ROF Gallente: 6 turret hardpoints +7.5% hybrid turret tracking -5% MWD capacitor penalty
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Joe Starbreaker
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Posted - 2008.05.31 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar Thukker Maelstrom
I am having visions of Tachyon Maelstroms dancing in my head.
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Grarr Dexx
Naval Protection Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.31 22:51:00 -
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Abaddon takes a lot of his pride in it's designated turret points, I think a Khanid Apocalypse would do good. Or even an Armageddon.
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binnichda
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Posted - 2008.06.01 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: binnichda on 01/06/2008 00:22:01 Edited by: binnichda on 01/06/2008 00:21:14
Originally by: Grarr Dexx Abaddon takes a lot of his pride in it's designated turret points, I think a Khanid Apocalypse would do good. Or even an Armageddon.
khanid geddon? oem geddon = RAwwww! khanid apoc? hm.. dont know, maybe to lazy khanid Aba? BLACK! +red windows - 7(+-1) torp launcher with armor 25%resists and +25(50%) range? i would DIE for it 
its easy to fit against amarr dmg types - harder as it is against, lets say gall/minni/cald ...
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vostok
Suns Of Korhal deadspace society
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Posted - 2008.06.01 04:18:00 -
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Originally by: Madam Kaktar I'd rather see it as a new tier I BS.
Storyline: with increased hostilities, factions have begun increasing the size of their battleship fleets. Khanid and Caldari did a joint venture to create a new cheap BS. Minmitar have begun refitting mammoths, and Gallente have built a new ship.
Khanid & Caldari are similar looking ships, the Khanid being slightly larger and smoother appearance. Khanid (Amarr): 7 missile hardpoints +5% armor resists -5% cap recharge time Caldari: 5 missile hardpoints +5% missile ROF +5% missile kinetic damage Minmitar: Modified mammoth appearance to look more combat worthy, 6 turret hardpoints +10% large projectile optimal +5% large projectile ROF Gallente: 6 turret hardpoints +7.5% hybrid turret tracking -5% MWD capacitor penalty
Don't know about a combat mammoth but a faction industrial or few with stupid hp (to stop high sec gank) and cargo similar to an itty 5 would be frickin' awesome.
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Warrio
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.01 04:49:00 -
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Edited by: Warrio on 01/06/2008 04:51:01
Originally by: Madam Kaktar Minmitar: Modified mammoth appearance to look more combat worthy
Yes. YES!!!! Minni are the poorest of the empires but are very resourceful, the Mammoth looks like a BS anyway, what an excellent idea. This has RP written all over it and if you can't RP in internet spaceships then where can you RP?
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Joe Starbreaker
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Posted - 2008.06.01 05:15:00 -
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Face it guys, all the Battleships in EVE are butt-ugly except the Armageddon, the Megathron, and the Maelstrom. Every faction or T2 battleship should be based off of those models. Caldari shouldn't have faction or T2 ships. A Khanid Abaddon or Apoc would just be a let-down.
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vostok
Suns Of Korhal deadspace society
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Posted - 2008.06.01 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Face it guys, all the Battleships in EVE are butt-ugly except the Armageddon, the Megathron, and the Maelstrom. Every faction or T2 battleship should be based off of those models. Caldari shouldn't have faction or T2 ships. A Khanid Abaddon or Apoc would just be a let-down.
The maelstrom?! ok well I understand that aerodynamics are pretty much negligible in space (cba with solar winds atm) but the maelstrom, like the brutix, would be unable or traveling in a straight line due to the forces acting on it not acting through its center of gravity, and due to this I just feel it looks massively silly.
P.S. if you don't understand why it would be unable to travel in a straight line, I don't know how to explain it to you, because its too bleeding obvious to me. Also, space is NOT zero gravity, zero gravity can only truly occur in another universe (arguable even there), and again, if you don't understand, please don't ask, go and read a book on simple astrophysics.
Oh and about what looks good... I like the tempest, hyperion, megathron, rokh (kinda), armageddon and abaddon. But tbh I would prefer to see new BS skins, I think stuff like the nightmare and machariel look so damned badass!
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Nu Wa
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Posted - 2008.06.02 20:30:00 -
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I think I'm the only one in EVE who thinks the Nightmare looks bad. There must be something wrong with me..
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