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ArmChair Admiral
Armchair News
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Posted - 2008.06.07 02:39:00 -
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Out of curiosity what is happening to BRUCE in syndicate? Are they getting their act together and holding down some space there adn rebuilding or what? Chairman of the National Convention of Eve Armchair Generals(NCEAG). We stand up for the rights of Eve Armchair Generals everywhere. |
PsychoBones
Sons of Plunder.
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Posted - 2008.06.07 02:44:00 -
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Edited by: PsychoBones on 07/06/2008 02:44:15 First in a BRUCE failurecascade thread
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Phrixus Zephyr
Prospero Incorperated
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Posted - 2008.06.07 02:47:00 -
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Go ******* find out. This isn't Q&A its supposed to be corperation and alliance DISCUSSION.
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ArmChair Admiral
Armchair News
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Posted - 2008.06.07 02:48:00 -
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Discuss then whats going on with them. \\ Chairman of the National Convention of Eve Armchair Generals(NCEAG). We stand up for the rights of Eve Armchair Generals everywhere. |
Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.06.07 02:49:00 -
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=CwXKPTwJ7kc ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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Phrixus Zephyr
Prospero Incorperated
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Posted - 2008.06.07 02:55:00 -
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Deliver some god damn content and then maybe we'll have something to talking about.
100 threads of "So whats happening with/at (corp/alliance/location)? is not ******* content.
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ArmChair Admiral
Armchair News
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Posted - 2008.06.07 02:56:00 -
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Hows the ****shoot doing? Chairman of the National Convention of Eve Armchair Generals(NCEAG). We stand up for the rights of Eve Armchair Generals everywhere. |
Warlord Battlehammer
New Information Trading Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.07 03:29:00 -
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Edited by: Warlord Battlehammer on 07/06/2008 03:29:39
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Deliver some god damn content and then maybe we'll have something to talking about.
100 threads of "So whats happening with/at (corp/alliance/location)? is not ******* content.
Those are questions that are sometimes asked in a discussion. Your " I want to be tough by posting curse words in a forum" is what is not needed, but is still content.
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Kalmanaka
Shade.
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Posted - 2008.06.07 03:33:00 -
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You should really train covops.
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ArmChair Admiral
Armchair News
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Posted - 2008.06.07 03:39:00 -
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WATS THE BIG DEAL WITH TELLING ME?! Chairman of the National Convention of Eve Armchair Generals(NCEAG). We stand up for the rights of Eve Armchair Generals everywhere. |
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Funkcikle
DEATHFUNK R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.06.07 03:40:00 -
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neva mind this toss, go do something useful and bump my recruitment thread and, no u cant join, just bump it u c*nts
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Warlord Battlehammer
New Information Trading Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.07 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Funkcikle neva mind this toss, go do something useful and bump my recruitment thread and, no u cant join, just bump it u c*nts
Sure, point me in that direction.
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Phrixus Zephyr
Prospero Incorperated
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Posted - 2008.06.07 03:44:00 -
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Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 07/06/2008 03:43:55
Originally by: Warlord Battlehammer Edited by: Warlord Battlehammer on 07/06/2008 03:29:39
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Deliver some god damn content and then maybe we'll have something to talking about.
100 threads of "So whats happening with/at (corp/alliance/location)? is not ******* content.
Those are questions that are sometimes asked in a discussion. Your " I want to be tough by posting curse words in a forum" is what is not needed, but is still content.
All he needs to do is either spend the two required minutes to ask the right people, or use an exsisting thread. Simpleton questions like this are not thread worthy.
As laughable as COAD is these day, the increasing amount of one sentence threads still ****es me off no end.
You need a reality check if you think me using 'curse words' is an attempt to 'act tough' over the internet.
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Warlord Battlehammer
New Information Trading Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.07 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 07/06/2008 03:43:55
Originally by: Warlord Battlehammer Edited by: Warlord Battlehammer on 07/06/2008 03:29:39
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Deliver some god damn content and then maybe we'll have something to talking about.
100 threads of "So whats happening with/at (corp/alliance/location)? is not ******* content.
Those are questions that are sometimes asked in a discussion. Your " I want to be tough by posting curse words in a forum" is what is not needed, but is still content.
All he needs to do is either spend the two required minutes to ask the right people, or use an exsisting thread. Simpleton questions like this are not thread worthy.
As laughable as COAD is these day, the increasing amount of one sentence threads still ****es me off no end.
You need a reality check if you think me using 'curse words' is an attempt to 'act tough' over the internet.
You need a reality check when you argue with a 2+ yr old alt and think that COAD was serious business before " these days"
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Tiger Delivery
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.06.07 03:50:00 -
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Edited by: Tiger Delivery on 07/06/2008 03:50:49 Armchair News is only following in the footsteps of news giants like Fox News by gathering their news from anonymous sources on the bias-free Internet.
I hear Bruce are still shaken from their loss of Fountain, and it's going to take some time to mend the wounds of a classical failure cascade.
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Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.06.07 03:51:00 -
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Howz ya mom... and sister _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
ArmChair Admiral
Armchair News
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Posted - 2008.06.07 03:51:00 -
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U GUYZ R ***! I ASKED A QUESTION U NOOBZ! Chairman of the National Convention of Eve Armchair Generals(NCEAG). We stand up for the rights of Eve Armchair Generals everywhere. |
Phrixus Zephyr
Prospero Incorperated
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Posted - 2008.06.07 03:57:00 -
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Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 07/06/2008 03:57:07
Originally by: Warlord Battlehammer
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 07/06/2008 03:43:55
Originally by: Warlord Battlehammer Edited by: Warlord Battlehammer on 07/06/2008 03:29:39
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Deliver some god damn content and then maybe we'll have something to talking about.
100 threads of "So whats happening with/at (corp/alliance/location)? is not ******* content.
Those are questions that are sometimes asked in a discussion. Your " I want to be tough by posting curse words in a forum" is what is not needed, but is still content.
All he needs to do is either spend the two required minutes to ask the right people, or use an exsisting thread. Simpleton questions like this are not thread worthy.
As laughable as COAD is these day, the increasing amount of one sentence threads still ****es me off no end.
You need a reality check if you think me using 'curse words' is an attempt to 'act tough' over the internet.
You need a reality check when you argue with a 2+ yr old alt and think that COAD was serious business before " these days"
You think so. Well i appear to have derailed this thread before it took off, so mission acomplished.
What people apparently fail to understand is, just because COAD is ****, doesn't mean it isn't getting worse.
Im sure people will still post bull**** threads or elaborate trolls, but at least they'll have more than one sentence of content.
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rValdez5987
32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment
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Posted - 2008.06.07 04:09:00 -
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WHO CARES.
You wont get any good information from these forums unless posted by someone with authority.
You might as well do what the rest of us do when we want to know something. Go straight to the source and find out yourself. Throw an alt into bruce, or PL, or sons of tangra.
Otherwise youll only get biased crap thats pretty much bs anyways. |
Phrixus Zephyr
Prospero Incorperated
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Posted - 2008.06.07 04:13:00 -
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Nothing wrong with bias if there is content. At least then people can hash it out.
This one sentence **** used to be dealt with severly and i see no reason why it shouldn't now.
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Morkt Drakt
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2008.06.07 04:36:00 -
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Bruce are ordered back to T22
They're fighting with Huzzah who live in PC9
Give em a while to get their **** together, they've lost a lot of members...
BRUCE MEMBERSHIP TRACKER
20.04.08 - 3648 Members - 0 Member Change
22.04.08 - 3586 Members - (-62) Member Change
24.04.08 - 3571 Members - (-15) Member Change
26.04.08 - 3540 Members - (-31) Member Change
28.04.08 - 3511 Members - (-29) Member Change
30.04.08 - 3482 Members - (-29) Member Change
02.05.08 - 3443 Members - (-39) Member Change
04.05.08 - 3443 Members - (0) Member Change
06.05.08 - 3310 Members - (-133) Member Change
11.05.08 - 3166 Members - (-144) Member Change
12.05.08 - 2897 Members - (- 269) Member Change
14.05.08 - 2686 Members - (- 211) Member Change
19.05.08 - 2565 Members - (- 121) Member Change
25.05.08 - 2342 Members - (- 223) Member Change
27.05.08 - 2057 Members - (- 285) Member Change
28.05.08 - 1730 Members - (- 327) Member Change
28.05.08 - 1240 Members - (- 490) Member Change
Total left since - 20.04.08 - 2440 Members
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IronGoldenEagle
The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.06.07 04:40:00 -
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Posting in an out of control thread about BRUCE
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Natasha Dannar
Mercenary Vanguards
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Posted - 2008.06.07 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 07/06/2008 03:57:07
Originally by: Warlord Battlehammer
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 07/06/2008 03:43:55
Originally by: Warlord Battlehammer Edited by: Warlord Battlehammer on 07/06/2008 03:29:39
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Deliver some god damn content and then maybe we'll have something to talking about.
100 threads of "So whats happening with/at (corp/alliance/location)? is not ******* content.
Those are questions that are sometimes asked in a discussion. Your " I want to be tough by posting curse words in a forum" is what is not needed, but is still content.
All he needs to do is either spend the two required minutes to ask the right people, or use an exsisting thread. Simpleton questions like this are not thread worthy.
As laughable as COAD is these day, the increasing amount of one sentence threads still ****es me off no end.
You need a reality check if you think me using 'curse words' is an attempt to 'act tough' over the internet.
You need a reality check when you argue with a 2+ yr old alt and think that COAD was serious business before " these days"
You think so. Well i appear to have derailed this thread before it took off, so mission acomplished.
What people apparently fail to understand is, just because COAD is ****, doesn't mean it isn't getting worse.
Im sure people will still post bull**** threads or elaborate trolls, but at least they'll have more than one sentence of content.
Tough guy. Shut up. Your sh@t-posting is part of what's wrong with CAOD these days. Now go away before I taunt you a second time.
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Howling Jinn
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch.
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Posted - 2008.06.07 12:34:00 -
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Gigantic ass cobra****got alert in this thread!
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.07 12:43:00 -
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Edited by: lecrotta on 07/06/2008 12:45:07
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
All he needs to do is either spend the two required minutes to ask the right people, or use an exsisting thread. Simpleton questions like this are not thread worthy.
As laughable as COAD is these day, the increasing amount of one sentence threads still ****es me off no end.
You need a reality check if you think me using 'curse words' is an attempt to 'act tough' over the internet.
Well then to use your style of posting i must say, Your a ******* idiot.
Asking a individual will get that individuals opinion and as such be based on the bias of that individual. While posting a thread with the question will get broader and more varied answers from many ppl and in amongst it will be the truth. And considering this is CAOD and the question is about a alliance this is the correct place for it.
Now chill a bit, stop being ****y about others question and stfu unless you have summat to contribute to the discussion.
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Wusti
The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.06.07 13:16:00 -
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Edited by: Wusti on 07/06/2008 13:17:19 Just check the Huzzah killboard nubbin - if u haven't had enough clues already. Its not hard to figure out who lives in Syndicate, and then do at least a moderate amount of research. Then at least you can ask a decent question instead of demonstrating your laziness. _______________________
Welcome to The New Era
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Rajere
No Trademark The OSS
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Posted - 2008.06.07 15:06:00 -
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BRUCE's orders to "return and rebuild in syndicate" was an elaborate hoax by their leadership to throw off all the spies they had in their alliance. There are no bruce in syndicate, they're actually rebuilding in GENESIS.
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Phrixus Zephyr
Prospero Incorperated
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Posted - 2008.06.07 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 07/06/2008 12:45:07
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
All he needs to do is either spend the two required minutes to ask the right people, or use an exsisting thread. Simpleton questions like this are not thread worthy.
As laughable as COAD is these day, the increasing amount of one sentence threads still ****es me off no end.
You need a reality check if you think me using 'curse words' is an attempt to 'act tough' over the internet.
Well then to use your style of posting i must say, Your a ******* idiot.
Asking a individual will get that individuals opinion and as such be based on the bias of that individual. While posting a thread with the question will get broader and more varied answers from many ppl and in amongst it will be the truth. And considering this is CAOD and the question is about a alliance this is the correct place for it.
Now chill a bit, stop being ****y about others question and stfu unless you have summat to contribute to the discussion.
You're*
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Hydrogen
Art of War Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.07 16:35:00 -
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BRUCE? Who is BRUCE? __
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Rajere
No Trademark The OSS
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Posted - 2008.06.07 17:04:00 -
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07.06.08 - 998 Members - (- 242) Member Change
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twobigones
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Posted - 2008.06.07 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: ArmChair Admiral U GUYZ R ***! I ASKED A QUESTION U NOOBZ! come on guys!! its f*gtard spoon-feed me time...
get over urself armchair guy... this is not the buttsecs u r looking for (waves hand mysteriously)
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Sar'Duakar
Free Collective The OSS
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Posted - 2008.06.07 17:42:00 -
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The only Bruce that are in Syndicate die moderatley quickly, unless the remain docked. Other than that, there isnt much of a "significant" presence of Bruce in Syndicate.
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
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Posted - 2008.06.07 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Nothing wrong with bias if there is content. At least then people can hash it out.
This one sentence **** used to be dealt with severly and i see no reason why it shouldn't now.
"However while I ramble on about how much I hate these threads, I'm going to bump it to the top 5, no 6 times!"
"There is nothing they can do to counter 5000 f*****g Goons logged in and ready to go." - darius JOHNSON |
IronGoldenEagle
The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.06.07 19:05:00 -
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I haven't fought any of the OSS guys yet, dont know why cuz I go to their systems as much as possible. Huzzah brings it every day as they just overwhelm us with numbers (BRUCE getting blobbed? lol) and at night (central US) we tend to easily outnumber them and go on roams and such. Last night was kinda fun with the 6-c gatecamp where we got yall crpw then it was a race to get to the damnation but he got away and we only got that taranis but then your gatecamp fleet came in with about double our numbers so we retreated. This happened at like 4 in the morning for me when the UK guys are coming on in good numbers. I dislike the station games but syndicates pretty fun for small roaming gangs.
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Ilany
BANK of HUZZAH FEDERATION HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.06.07 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: ArmChair Admiral Out of curiosity what is happening to BRUCE in syndicate? Are they getting their act together and holding down some space there and rebuilding or what?
Answer: We don't know. We've been looking for them, but those few that are in Syndicate seem to be cloaked/docked/elsewhere, even in their prime-time. Most disappointing. ------
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.06.07 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: ArmChair Admiral Out of curiosity what is happening to BRUCE in syndicate? Are they getting their act together and holding down some space there adn rebuilding or what?
If you were elite armchair admiral like me, you would not need to ask that silly question, you bloody spy noob.
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DasDizzy
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.06.07 21:29:00 -
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most of southern syndicate is quiet In federate gallente, armor tanks YOU |
Mary Anne
Belgica Optimus Serpensis
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Posted - 2008.06.07 23:04:00 -
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Edited by: Mary Anne on 07/06/2008 23:05:21
Originally by: IronGoldenEagle I haven't fought any of the OSS guys yet, dont know why cuz I go to their systems as much as possible. Huzzah brings it every day as they just overwhelm us with numbers (BRUCE getting blobbed? lol) and at night (central US) we tend to easily outnumber them and go on roams and such. Last night was kinda fun with the 6-c gatecamp where we got yall crpw then it was a race to get to the damnation but he got away and we only got that taranis but then your gatecamp fleet came in with about double our numbers so we retreated. This happened at like 4 in the morning for me when the UK guys are coming on in good numbers. I dislike the station games but syndicates pretty fun for small roaming gangs.
Here you could read a well thought-out heads up post by a zombie alliance. BRUCE got kicked into meaningless. Attention whoring is the new strategy. If they had style, they had disbanded. But now... well nurture his post it might be one of the last by BRUCE. But... there is somethign left to do:
Dear IronGoldEagle (I know you wish you were),
how does it feel to be a nobody of a nobody alliance, which nobody respects, since nobody in your alliance had the balls to either die in flames or close doors? BRUCE - they all either left their alliance or just faded away...
How does it feel showing off a fail alliance tag all day long? Are you proud?
Yours most kindly
Mary Anne
-- You are reading a signature.
BRUCE rl photo shoot of the tight knit likeminded hardcore players
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Helen
coracao ardente Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.07 23:31:00 -
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lolbruce!
am i doing this rite?
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2008.06.08 01:19:00 -
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Pity about BRUCE.
Issler
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Rajere
No Trademark The OSS
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Posted - 2008.06.08 15:10:00 -
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Quote: I haven't fought any of the OSS guys yet, dont know why cuz I go to their systems as much as possible. Huzzah brings it every day as they just overwhelm us with numbers (BRUCE getting blobbed? lol) and at night (central US) we tend to easily outnumber them and go on roams and such. Last night was kinda fun with the 6-c gatecamp where we got yall crpw then it was a race to get to the damnation but he got away and we only got that taranis but then your gatecamp fleet came in with about double our numbers so we retreated. This happened at like 4 in the morning for me when the UK guys are coming on in good numbers. I dislike the station games but syndicates pretty fun for small roaming gangs.
lulz. The only time you've ever undocked and went to OSS space you were podded, same thing happened when you went to NOTR space. We scour syndicate looking for these mythical bruce gangs in USTZ, they don't exist. Only place you can find bruce in any numbers is in Genesis or jita. Enjoy the stations in T22 but stop pretending that you are relevant.
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Grim Mercy
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.08 19:18:00 -
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So glad I left BRUCE, but only because it separates me that much further from Mary Anne and Rajere.
Rajere, I'm a little familiar with your BRUCE drama, but who the hell is Mary Anne? And why all the venom?
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Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.08 20:25:00 -
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It seems that internet spaceships are serious business in BRUCE.
------- 2008.06.01 16:10 Hello Midgath,
I read your Bruce forum post with interest. Apparently you disagreed with the leadership of the alliance you joined and decided to betray and steal from the hundreds of players that trusted you. This shows how untrustworthy you are. This is more than a gaming role-play and indicates a character flaw that is part of your RL.
To protect RL people I have sent your post to the Dept. of Homeland Security for your record. They will have no trouble tracing you. I would not apply for any position that requires a security check if I were you.
Best Regards,
Ambasador Kosh ------- -----------
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EzSnake
Altruism. Malice.
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Posted - 2008.06.08 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Scatim Helicon It seems that internet spaceships are serious business in BRUCE.
------- 2008.06.01 16:10 Hello Midgath,
I read your Bruce forum post with interest. Apparently you disagreed with the leadership of the alliance you joined and decided to betray and steal from the hundreds of players that trusted you. This shows how untrustworthy you are. This is more than a gaming role-play and indicates a character flaw that is part of your RL.
To protect RL people I have sent your post to the Dept. of Homeland Security for your record. They will have no trouble tracing you. I would not apply for any position that requires a security check if I were you.
Best Regards,
Ambasador Kosh -------
Quoted for the OMGLULZ ____________________________________
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Rajere
No Trademark The OSS
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Posted - 2008.06.08 23:24:00 -
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Quote: So glad I left BRUCE, but only because it separates me that much further from Mary Anne and Rajere.
Rajere, I'm a little familiar with your BRUCE drama, but who the hell is Mary Anne? And why all the venom?
As I have no idea who you are I can only conclude that fried continued his nasty habit of never letting anything go, feigning outrage anytime someone refused to acknowledge him as some kind of messiah. He was still telling stories about Olex Grant years afterwards so I'm sure he's still telling his puppets stories about me. There never was any bruce drama involving me, bruce leadership decided to be douchebags, I called them on it and left. If I had to guess i'd say they are still douchebags.
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Sorrowed
Shade.
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Posted - 2008.06.11 01:51:00 -
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Quote: As I have no idea who you are I can only conclude that fried continued his nasty habit of never letting anything go, feigning outrage anytime someone refused to acknowledge him as some kind of messiah. He was still telling stories about Olex Grant years afterwards so I'm sure he's still telling his puppets stories about me. There never was any bruce drama involving me, bruce leadership decided to be douchebags, I called them on it and left. If I had to guess i'd say they are still douchebags.
Wow....just Wow.
The only person i see here with a chip on their shoulder is you Raj. In all fairness you are still bent that in there prime BRUCE under the leadership of Friedrick pounded your alliance into nothingness. You then spent time camping stations in a carrier long after all your members left you and then applied to bruce. Oh wait!! thats right, you applied to bruce after being beaten by them.
Bruce will live or die as no ones pet, unlike what you wanted to be.
Now Go spew your venom in the mirror, for the only person you insult is yourself everytime you post.
Regards,
Sorrowed. Former CEO of Hippie Haters. Bruce.
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Loyal Servant
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.11 02:25:00 -
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No matter... bruce will still blob, just that they will do it again in syndicate. bruce never changes.... new faces inspired by the old blob command mentality.
HUZZAH!
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Rajere
No Trademark The OSS
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Posted - 2008.06.11 04:59:00 -
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Edited by: Rajere on 11/06/2008 05:04:04 delusional much there sorrowed?
Sorry your alliance failure cascaded and all, but you may want to do a little fact checking before posting ever again. You seem to have both myself and my corp confused for someone else.
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Eltyron
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.11 05:25:00 -
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So much bitterness from/to BRUCE
Best of Luck, My Condolences, Happy Birthday etc. etc... |
Mary Anne
Belgica Optimus Serpensis
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sorrowed
The only person i see here with a chip on their shoulder is you Raj. In all fairness you are still bent that in there prime BRUCE under the leadership of Friedrick pounded your alliance into nothingness. You then spent time camping stations in a carrier long after all your members left you and then applied to bruce. Oh wait!! thats right, you applied to bruce after being beaten by them.
Bruce will live or die as no ones pet, unlike what you wanted to be.
Now Go spew your venom in the mirror, for the only person you insult is yourself everytime you post.
Dear Sorrowed,
so much bitterness and sorrow - just for people writing the truth about... fail.
"Bruce will live or die as no ones pet, unlike what you wanted to be." - you are indeed right. BRUCE was fleeing, running, panicking like a beaten dog into meaninglessness - to reform in Syndicate with their tight knit likeminded hardcore players (as if those ever existed besides blobbing carebears). So much bitterness when seeing and reading the truth?
I will dry your tears - come into my arms.
Yours truly
Mary Anne
-- You are reading a signature.
BRUCE rl photo shoot of the tight knit likeminded hardcore players
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rajere
Quote: I haven't fought any of the OSS guys yet, dont know why cuz I go to their systems as much as possible. Huzzah brings it every day as they just overwhelm us with numbers (BRUCE getting blobbed? lol) and at night (central US) we tend to easily outnumber them and go on roams and such. Last night was kinda fun with the 6-c gatecamp where we got yall crpw then it was a race to get to the damnation but he got away and we only got that taranis but then your gatecamp fleet came in with about double our numbers so we retreated. This happened at like 4 in the morning for me when the UK guys are coming on in good numbers. I dislike the station games but syndicates pretty fun for small roaming gangs.
lulz. The only time you've ever undocked and went to OSS space you were podded, same thing happened when you went to NOTR space. We scour syndicate looking for these mythical bruce gangs in USTZ, they don't exist. Only place you can find bruce in any numbers is in Genesis or jita. Enjoy the stations in T22 but stop pretending that you are relevant.
Using 'lulz' in your post made you irrelevant.
Though I am kinda interested in knowing where and if Bruce are reforming in Syndicate? |
El Covah
LOCKDOWN. HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:34:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Wendat Huron Though I am kinda interested in knowing where and if Bruce are reforming in Syndicate?
Bruce moved gear to a deadend System (T22) in the Y4-constellation (so called "PC9-pocket", currently inhabited by Huzzah Federation) with the goal to retake the constellation for "rebuilding".
Our experience is: They stay docked or cloaked most of the time and are almost unavailable for fights. Except one battle, which Bruce lost, in the last 4 weeks really nothing mentionable happens except carrier jumps by Bruce in US TZ and an occasional Recon gang. Oh well, I forgot an unguarded large domination tower, which a Bruce tried to anchor - it went poof even before they were able to stront it.
Overall picture is: Everybody seems to be able to continue business as usual except there are some reds in local - mostly we go just "ganking Bruce" with them showing "a little bit lack of experience and good intel". One Bruce told me in local told me they wanted to "shut down industrial operations within the pocket", we still wonder what industrial operations they were talking about It seems, they do not know Huzzah very well, even if we have hostilities now for two (?) years.
Also we have a nice little campaign on our killboard right now, I really do not want to go into chestbeating here... Anyhow it shows roughly 350 Bruce losses (those were no shuttles) since they "moved in" a month ago - compared to around 65 kills by them in whole Syndicate. This shows their current insignificance compared to all other, even smaller, entitites which live here.
This, anyhow, are my personal views of the situation...
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Mary Anne
Belgica Optimus Serpensis
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:34:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Though I am kinda interested in knowing where and if Bruce are reforming in Syndicate?
Dear Wendat,
they are still in midwarp it seems. Still I heard rumours that people were really impressed by the BRUCE firesales in PNQ station. Somethign along the line of nearly all stuff at 15% - 50% off Jita prices. Yeah, I know that is the true attitude of tight knit likeminded hardcore players. Really is.
I hope you got the information you requested.
Sincerly
Mary Anne
-- You are reading a signature.
BRUCE rl photo shoot of the tight knit likeminded hardcore players
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Mary Anne
Belgica Optimus Serpensis
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:38:00 -
[54]
Originally by: El Covah
Bruce moved gear to a deadend System (T22) in the Y4-constellation (so called "PC9-pocket", currently inhabited by Huzzah Federation) with the goal to retake the constellation for "rebuilding".
Our experience is: They stay docked or cloaked most of the time and are almost unavailable for fights. Except one battle, which Bruce lost, in the last 4 weeks really nothing mentionable happens except carrier jumps by Bruce in US TZ and an occasional Recon gang. Oh well, I forgot an unguarded large domination tower, which a Bruce tried to anchor - it went poof even before they were able to stront it.
Overall picture is: Everybody seems to be able to continue business as usual except there are some reds in local - mostly we go just "ganking Bruce" with them showing "a little bit lack of experience and good intel". One Bruce told me in local told me they wanted to "shut down industrial operations within the pocket", we still wonder what industrial operations they were talking about It seems, they do not know Huzzah very well, even if we have hostilities now for two (?) years.
Also we have a nice little campaign on our killboard right now, I really do not want to go into chestbeating here... Anyhow it shows roughly 350 Bruce losses (those were no shuttles) since they "moved in" a month ago - compared to around 65 kills by them in whole Syndicate. This shows their current insignificance compared to all other, even smaller, entitites which live here.
This, anyhow, are my personal views of the situation...
I know, I know people call it venom in my case too. But please accept the truth (by citing one BRUCE from these boards):
"... rebuilding in Syndicate with the tight knit likeminded hardcore players"
See? You got it all wrong! Awwwwwww.....
-- You are reading a signature.
BRUCE rl photo shoot of the tight knit likeminded hardcore players
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Cupdeez
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.06.11 14:03:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 07/06/2008 03:43:55
Originally by: Warlord Battlehammer Edited by: Warlord Battlehammer on 07/06/2008 03:29:39
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Deliver some god damn content and then maybe we'll have something to talking about.
100 threads of "So whats happening with/at (corp/alliance/location)? is not ******* content.
Those are questions that are sometimes asked in a discussion. Your " I want to be tough by posting curse words in a forum" is what is not needed, but is still content.
All he needs to do is either spend the two required minutes to ask the right people, or use an exsisting thread. Simpleton questions like this are not thread worthy.
As laughable as COAD is these day, the increasing amount of one sentence threads still ****es me off no end.
You need a reality check if you think me using 'curse words' is an attempt to 'act tough' over the internet.
Dude youÆre a Tool. The guy asked a simple question and he didn't flame anyone or anything. Some of us donÆt have 24/7 to troll the forum like your self to find out about 1 other post that is 2 weeks old. |
IronGoldenEagle
Electro Fuels
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Posted - 2008.06.11 17:10:00 -
[56]
Posting again in a BRUCE thread but no longer as a BRUCE. In the words of janitor from Scrubs "Never again" _________________________________
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Eltyron
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.11 17:42:00 -
[57]
Originally by: IronGoldenEagle Posting again in a BRUCE thread but no longer as a BRUCE. In the words of janitor from Scrubs "Never again"
What happened? You were pretty pro-BRUCE just a short while ago. Did the "blasphemous and outright false" propaganga get to you? |
Mary Anne
Belgica Optimus Serpensis
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Posted - 2008.06.11 18:02:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Mary Anne well nurture his post it might be one of the last by BRUCE.
Originally by: IronGoldenEagle Posting again in a BRUCE thread but no longer as a BRUCE. In the words of janitor from Scrubs "Never again"
Questions?
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2008.06.12 00:32:00 -
[59]
So BRUCE hires mercs to get the cluster in the first place. Maybe time to shop out another merc contract to get it back again. Once you've done that all you need to do is pick a new cult leader, recruit agressively till you are huge, fly off to "real" 0.0 then explode again!
Rinse then repeat.....
If you want to really make it circular, We'll rejoin then you can start the cycle off again by kicking us out! It would be just like old times! :-)
Seriously, why don't the dedicated PvPers disband BRUCE and start your own new alliance. Clean slate, fresh history to make your own. The BRUCE legacy doesn't seem to hold much value anymore.
Also, consider a name less pretentious, "Brutally Clever"? Kind of sad looking at how it ended.
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IronGoldenEagle
Electro Fuels
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Posted - 2008.06.12 02:36:00 -
[60]
You equate a small battle post as being pro-BRUCE? I was a member who served them faithfully until I felt that the alliance was hurting my fun and my corps survival for a few weeks. When I tried to ask for change in that situation it was not received warmly and so I left. I'm more of a TGRAD than a BRUCE any day and I'll be happy to ask readmittance should they leave. |
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Carrier Eleven
EVE Posting Service
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Posted - 2008.06.12 09:30:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Issler Dainze
Also, consider a name less pretentious, "Brutally Clever"? Kind of sad looking at how it ended.
Issler
They could use the alliance name "The Ford Explorer" then come hang out in highsec with your pack of losers. |
Sorrowed
Shade.
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Posted - 2008.06.12 10:46:00 -
[62]
Quote: You seem to have both myself and my corp confused for someone else.
You are absolutely correct Raj, for some reason i got you and Saj mixed up. I remember now. You were the j/o that got kicked for posting garbage on the forums.
The bruce failure had very litte to do with any outside influence. Fact. After loosing FOOM, and the members of Shade they lost a significant number of there top PvPers. Shade members that left represented 52% of all the kills on the bruce kill board. most of them were tac ops guys. Foom left taking with it 8 of 10 of the command staffing postions. Between Foom, Trada and Shade they left with all but 1 of the original FCs. The lead FC Zaphod left the game permanantly a few weeks before the Goon/PL reset. This played a huge role as well, he was the glue that kept most of the FCs together.
Once everyone left, the remaining corps were scrambling to fill the missing positions. Just then, to add insult to injury, Omen corp (member corp of bruce) ferryed off with somewhere between 50 and 100bil isk in bruce assets. This was all the POS fuel for 60days, and all the alliance BPOs. POSs started running out of fuel, PL had alot of the systems locked down so getting new stuff in and even comming up with the isk was virtually impossible. All this chaos caused a few more corps to leave, then more, and more.......leading to what we have know.
Speculate all you want. Pat yourself on your collective backs and jeer from the stands at how badly bruce sucked. Rest assured, those of us that were there, and "in the know" are very aware of what trully caused the downfall. What actually remains of bruce isnt even the bruce that i was a member of. I believe all of the founding corps have left, none of the leaders and FCs from our original syndicate days are even members of bruce. The new bruce CEO only joined well after we had moved into fountain. I wish them luck and plan to assist them in any way i can from my new corp.
To the rest of you trash talkers..... ill see ya on my kill board. |
Chony
Grave Diggers
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Posted - 2008.06.12 11:14:00 -
[63]
Everytime I see something about BRUCE I think of that ELO song. Dont bring me down bruce! |
EzSnake
Altruism. Malice.
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Posted - 2008.06.12 11:44:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Sorrowed
Quote: You seem to have both myself and my corp confused for someone else.
You are absolutely correct Raj, for some reason i got you and Saj mixed up. I remember now. You were the j/o that got kicked for posting garbage on the forums.
The bruce failure had very litte to do with any outside influence. Fact. After loosing FOOM, and the members of Shade they lost a significant number of there top PvPers. Shade members that left represented 52% of all the kills on the bruce kill board. most of them were tac ops guys. Foom left taking with it 8 of 10 of the command staffing postions. Between Foom, Trada and Shade they left with all but 1 of the original FCs. The lead FC Zaphod left the game permanantly a few weeks before the Goon/PL reset. This played a huge role as well, he was the glue that kept most of the FCs together.
Once everyone left, the remaining corps were scrambling to fill the missing positions. Just then, to add insult to injury, Omen corp (member corp of bruce) ferryed off with somewhere between 50 and 100bil isk in bruce assets. This was all the POS fuel for 60days, and all the alliance BPOs. POSs started running out of fuel, PL had alot of the systems locked down so getting new stuff in and even comming up with the isk was virtually impossible. All this chaos caused a few more corps to leave, then more, and more.......leading to what we have know.
Speculate all you want. Pat yourself on your collective backs and jeer from the stands at how badly bruce sucked. Rest assured, those of us that were there, and "in the know" are very aware of what trully caused the downfall. What actually remains of bruce isnt even the bruce that i was a member of. I believe all of the founding corps have left, none of the leaders and FCs from our original syndicate days are even members of bruce. The new bruce CEO only joined well after we had moved into fountain. I wish them luck and plan to assist them in any way i can from my new corp.
To the rest of you trash talkers..... ill see ya on my kill board.
While you are correct, thats not fully it. You give no credit to the goonie black-ops or P-L gangs and their use of spies (even though I personally hate spies). It played a major part in killin off willpower of those left.
PS- whats up w P-L gangs in black rise??? ____________________________________
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Xavieer Naidoo
Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.06.12 12:50:00 -
[65]
As a former member of Brutally Collapsing Empire I can say that the ideals behind BRUCE were very beautiful. But that was all that was good about them. BRUCE hurts from failure cascade, a bunch of carebears, bad diplos and some really bad leadership (Serena I'm looking at you... where are you... where were you all this time ?). Other than that, still a great bunch of people. o/
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Serena Greyskull
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.12 13:21:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Xavieer Naidoo (Serena I'm looking at you... where are you... where were you all this time ?). Other than that, still a great bunch of people. o/
Ah...killing many a Bruce in fountian, traveling to Delve to gank a few Bob cap ships, and generally griefing anyone I could find.
Where were you, role playing?
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Barra Cheveyo
Stratos Styx
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Posted - 2008.06.12 15:09:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Sorrowed BRUCE failed because all the elite people left and Omen stole stuff.
I would say this is not why BRUCE failed but what happened as a result of the failure.
Even when you, the Shade. crew, and FOOM where still in Fountain we were getting spanked by PL and friends in almost every major engagement.
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Zathi Shaitan
Illiteracy Combatants
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Posted - 2008.06.12 15:37:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Go ******* find out. This isn't Q&A its supposed to be corperation and alliance DISCUSSION.
What the frell is a corpEration?
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Rajere
No Trademark The OSS
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Posted - 2008.06.12 16:34:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Rajere on 12/06/2008 16:36:43
Quote: You were the j/o that got kicked for posting garbage on the forums.
Again you should do some fact checking before ever posting again. If by kicked you mean "left of my own free will to much surprise and QQing by fried and others wondering why i'd leave them" then you are correct. |
Shinma Apollo
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.12 17:10:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Shinma Apollo on 12/06/2008 17:10:20
Originally by: Sorrowed words
I think what's particularly sad about the whole affair is that we were warned about Marcus Malos (the Omen head) by a member of PL (Gandolf) about 6 weeks before he robbed the alliance fund blind. (I really still owe you that 5 mil, don't I gandolf?) As for Shade and Foom, it was a big hit, but BRUCE really managed to cut its own legs enough times. There's still some good people left in it even without all the "it's because X left" crowd, so here's to them getting some sick bionic legs; oh, and Ronan for Executor!
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Eltyron
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.12 17:12:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Sorrowed
The bruce failure had very litte to do with any outside influence. Fact.
I completely agree. If 'said outside influence' had never set foot in Fountain, BRUCE still would have evacuated to Syndicate and dropped 2700 members in 5 weeks.
More importantly, BRUCE was doomed to failure as soon as your leaders were born in RL, so any credit taken by others is moot, as this was all planned.
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Mary Anne
Belgica Optimus Serpensis
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:11:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Mary Anne on 12/06/2008 18:13:32
Originally by: Xavieer Naidoo As a former member of Brutally Collapsing Empire...
Dear Xavieer,
thank you a lot - you made me smile in real life. This post of yours made my day and I welcome you to the people who see the obvious and act accordingly.
Yours truly
Mary Anne
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Arkanjuca
R.U.S.T.
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:18:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Sorrowed The bruce failure had very litte to do with any outside influence.
Give'em some credit, even if that influence was not that big.
Originally by: Sorrowed After loosing FOOM, and the members of Shade they lost a significant number of there top PvPers. Shade members that left represented 52% of all the kills on the bruce kill board. most of them were tac ops guys. Foom left taking with it 8 of 10 of the command staffing postions. Between Foom, Trada and Shade they left with all but 1 of the original FCs. The lead FC Zaphod left the game permanantly a few weeks before the Goon/PL reset. This played a huge role as well, he was the glue that kept most of the FCs together.
Absolutely true, they was the heart and mind of BRUCE...
-- AF should be like HACs
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Ilany
BANK of HUZZAH FEDERATION HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:39:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Eltyron More importantly, BRUCE was doomed to failure as soon as your leaders were born in RL, so any credit taken by others is moot, as this was all planned.
I saw what you did there. ------
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Rajere
No Trademark The OSS
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Posted - 2008.06.12 22:04:00 -
[75]
Shade. is a 65 member corp which had 52% of bruce's kills? Out of a 3600+ member alliance? You're corp is larger than ours with less kills and less efficiency, and you exclusively nano/cloak-fag killing afk ratters while we're the last group in eve who refuses to nanofag. (seriously, how do you have anything less than 99% efficiency nanofagging?)
Sorry PL i'm going to have to agree that BRUCE would have failure cascaded without you. |
Severe Admin
Blind Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.12 22:07:00 -
[76]
have fun getting owned in syndicate bruce, your greed for fountain was your undoing, like so many alliances these days. good riddance |
Eltyron
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.13 01:14:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Ilany
I saw what you did there.
Whats to see? We apparently didn't do anything in Fountain to BRUCE. Every angle we've tried to show them their history from our perspective has devolved into their leaders stuffing jalepenos into their ears, shaking their heads from side to side and muttering "DA BRUCES, DA BRUCES 4 LYFE y0" over and over.
Either way, thanks to BRUCE for being BRUCE.
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Sorrowed
Shade.
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Posted - 2008.06.13 01:16:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Rajere Shade. is a 65 member corp which had 52% of bruce's kills? Out of a 3600+ member alliance? You're corp is larger than ours with less kills and less efficiency, and you exclusively nano/cloak-fag killing afk ratters while we're the last group in eve who refuses to nanofag. (seriously, how do you have anything less than 99% efficiency nanofagging?)
Sorry PL i'm going to have to agree that BRUCE would have failure cascaded without you.
Yes Raj. Shade members did represent that many of the kills. less than 99% efficiency? well if you actually looked at our KB before popping off at the mouth you would see we have 89% efficiency. I would guess that it may have something to do with the fact we dont sit in a 0.0 dead end with a massive blue nap fest like you do. We actually go out and roam other regions.As far as you getting kicked, yes i do remember. i was a member of Foom at the time. You left, to keep from being kicked. I certainly do not remember anyone begging your loud mouth to stay around. Your Venom toward current and former bruce members alone speaks volumes. Bitter much? I find it humorous how you speak with such authority as to the situation when you were never there, and had nothing to do with Bruce, or the people Bruce were fighting with. You are nothing more than a trash talker trying to get jabs in because you feel bruce did you wrong some how. Oh, larger than yours with less kills, our corp has only been in existance for less than 2 months Mr rocket science. We did not copy the KB info from the bruce boards as it is private and shall remain that way. As for your efficiency, i dont think im the only one that can confirm your pilots are not exactly the best at posting there losses. Your board is basically BS.
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Wusti
The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.06.13 02:22:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Sorrowed
Originally by: Rajere Shade. is a 65 member corp which had 52% of bruce's kills? Out of a 3600+ member alliance? You're corp is larger than ours with less kills and less efficiency, and you exclusively nano/cloak-fag killing afk ratters while we're the last group in eve who refuses to nanofag. (seriously, how do you have anything less than 99% efficiency nanofagging?)
Sorry PL i'm going to have to agree that BRUCE would have failure cascaded without you.
Yes Raj. Shade members did represent that many of the kills. less than 99% efficiency? well if you actually looked at our KB before popping off at the mouth you would see we have 89% efficiency. I would guess that it may have something to do with the fact we dont sit in a 0.0 dead end with a massive blue nap fest like you do. We actually go out and roam other regions.As far as you getting kicked, yes i do remember. i was a member of Foom at the time. You left, to keep from being kicked. I certainly do not remember anyone begging your loud mouth to stay around. Your Venom toward current and former bruce members alone speaks volumes. Bitter much? I find it humorous how you speak with such authority as to the situation when you were never there, and had nothing to do with Bruce, or the people Bruce were fighting with. You are nothing more than a trash talker trying to get jabs in because you feel bruce did you wrong some how. Oh, larger than yours with less kills, our corp has only been in existance for less than 2 months Mr rocket science. We did not copy the KB info from the bruce boards as it is private and shall remain that way. As for your efficiency, i dont think im the only one that can confirm your pilots are not exactly the best at posting there losses. Your board is basically BS.
ROFL
Youo sir are a complete and utter tosser living in dreamland. You try and make heroes out of other sick and deluded fools who quite simply let many many ppl down through their own incompetence. Revel in it big boy, make all the excuses you want and try your hardest to believe them. At least that way you will continue to make the same mistakes over and over again to our endless amusement.
Shade.? You should never have seenthe light of day tbhqfh. Just follow Zaphod's lead eh? at least it sounds like he knew when the game was up. _______________________
Welcome to The New Era
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Rajere
No Trademark The OSS
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Posted - 2008.06.13 02:42:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Rajere on 13/06/2008 02:44:06 again...
delusional much there sorrowed?
Sorry your alliance failure cascaded and all, but you may want to do a little fact checking before posting ever again. You seem to have both myself and my corp confused for someone else. One of these days you might be able to make a post with a single correct statement, until then, stop posting.
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Grim Mercy
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.13 04:57:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Grim Mercy on 13/06/2008 05:01:18 About a month prior to the whole FOOM/Shade. fiasco, I was hanging in vent while doing a defense fleet op, if I recall correctly, against Burn Eden. Fried came in with a loud sigh and started complaining about having a hard day, that diplomacy had totally broken down, and that the political aspects of Eve were becoming really, really tiresome.
That was the last day I flew with an FC. From that day up until after FOOM left I only saw ONE op- when we tried to take down PL's pos in YZ? Hell I don't even remember the system now. Mind you, I'm not on all the time, but enough to hop on maybe 3 or 4 defense/roaming/pos bust ops a week. That PL pos bust was the last coordinated effort I saw from any of the leadership. In fact, I was told specifically, many times, to not worry about Burn Eden at all, to just leave them alone until they left because it wasn't worth the price of any ships we would lose to give them some pvp (or, apparently, to try to defend our space). All the old-school FCs (and those closest to the ship-reimbursment program I would imagine) told me, and others, to ignore them.
Fast foward to one month later... The crappy ISP at the hotel I was staying at decided to die for about a week, and when I came back FOOM was gone. *Poof*, like a fart in the wind. I'm guessing there was, oh, about a month of planning/moving out on their part, but I was completely shocked. Then, I noticed none of the hard-core I-hope-they-haven't -gone-roaming-yet-today-because-I-wanted-to-join-them pvpers were ever on... then I noticed Shade. when I was trying to get ahold of Jester. So, in the space of a week, all of the leadership and said leadership's corp up and left, and all of our arguably best pvpers formed a new corp and moved?
It is this pilots opinion that the PL pos-bust failure was the first shovel of dirt on BRUCE's grave. I'm willing to bet the planning started that night for FOOM's and Shade.'s evac. What really ****es me off about the whole thing is that the other 3000+ people were just left hanging.
BRUCE was a cool idea, and I had nothing but fun the entire time I was a member (minus that last month, of course), but I'd say FOOM and Shade. stole way more than OMEN could have even imagined taking.
I hope they can get some of the old ideal (and trust) back and party it up in Syndicate. I remember that place being a ton of fun. And speaking of Syndicate: Rajere, you're still not fooling anybody. It was no secret that Fried had some control issues (Messiah complex is probably going a little too far), but if anything you have become more like your description of him than he ever was. Spouting your "facts" and "figures" on CAOD without a shred of evidence to back them up, in order to "prove" your side of things, is starting to make you look bad. Just because you say something indignantly doesn't mean people are going to take you at your word. I remember the BRUCE forum posts with you ranting and raving, causing all sorts of drama and trouble, and blaming the entire episode on the leadership, seemingly, because they disagreed with you, just as you are now. You're still full of BS (*not battle ship), but the sad part is you think you've gotten better at it.
This is a pretty interesting article from way-back-when that illustrates one common theme from the old Syndicate days:
Eve-wiki
To all those who read: thanks for hanging in there. To those that didn't: you suck (don't try to act indignant; you didn't read this line either OMG TL;DR!!!)
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IronGoldenEagle
Electro Fuels
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Posted - 2008.06.13 06:05:00 -
[82]
Edited by: IronGoldenEagle on 13/06/2008 06:05:40 Nmeh killed Tri and Tri helped PL kill BRUCE at 75FA? We even? |
Captain Shocker
eXtended Corporation 24
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Posted - 2008.06.13 06:31:00 -
[83]
Posting in a I keep resurecting thread because I think anyone cares about Bruce thread. Jeebuz let it die 3 pages should tell you no one cares.
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Rajere
No Trademark The OSS
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Posted - 2008.06.13 06:47:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Rajere on 13/06/2008 06:49:56 the only facts and figures I mentioned was regarding shade. corp in comparison to my own. You can look up both corps in game to compare membership numbers. You're not allowed to link directly to killboard/killmails in caod, so google-fu to verify those stats. For the record I only compared stats from the time shade. corp began, around 5/4/08 iirc, obviously lifetime kills aren't comparable but of course that was just a strawman of yours anyway. Keep QQing though, poor you guys.
and yes, if all you do is fly nano/cloak****ging ships and kill afk players, anything less than 99% efficiency is a joke.
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Mary Anne
Belgica Optimus Serpensis
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Posted - 2008.06.13 08:27:00 -
[85]
Posting in a threat about BRUCE Zombies...
Modern zombies are typically depicted as mindless, unfeeling monsters with a hunger for human flesh. Typically, these creatures can sustain damage far beyond that of a normal, living human and can pass whatever syndrome that causes their condition onto others. Modern zombies come in mobs and waves, seeking either flesh to eat or people to kill or infect. Typically, they show signs of physical decomposition such as rotting flesh, discolored eyes, and open wounds, and move with a slow, shambling gait. They are generally incapable of communication, showing no signs of personality or rationality.
Modern zombies are closely tied to the idea of a zombie apocalypse, the collapse of civilization caused by a vast plague of undead. The ideas are now so strongly linked that zombies are rarely depicted within any other context.
-- You are reading a signature.
BRUCE rl photo shoot of the tight knit likeminded hardcore players
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Tabare Vazquez
Uruguay Forever
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Posted - 2008.06.13 11:39:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Shinma Apollo I think what's particularly sad about the whole affair is that we were warned about Marcus Malos (the Omen head) by a member of PL (Gandolf) about 6 weeks before he robbed the alliance fund blind.
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Scrutt5
Snuff inc
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Posted - 2008.06.13 11:59:00 -
[87]
Bruce are just about dead and burried from what I can tell.
About time someone said...Fair play to them.
Bruce were the newest of the potential alliances to rival the membership of BOB and the Goons, they gave it a go, got bashed about and lost a lot of members to faction warefare. If eve didnt have such alliances spring up from time to time the game wouldn't be the eve we know and love.
Didnt like them much but respect their attempt at building an extreamly large alliance.
Lets stop kicking the dead horse.
Lets stop kicking the dead horse |
Mary Anne
Belgica Optimus Serpensis
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Posted - 2008.06.13 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Scrutt5 Lets stop kicking the dead horse
Dear Scrutt5,
nearly everyone knows its dead - only the horse itself does not realize it. It has been buried several times and still tries to move... What buggers me are the arrogant posts about strength and soon-to-be-power in an analogy to a past perceived as glorious. I did not like their attitude in the past - nowadays even less.
Since they refuse to do what is needed, one takes the time to kick them on boards and shoot them ingame. A task which I do - in all respect - enjoy.
Yours most kindly
Mary Anne
-- You are reading a signature.
BRUCE rl photo shoot of the tight knit likeminded hardcore players
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Olex Grant
Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.06.13 16:43:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Olex Grant on 13/06/2008 16:43:14
Originally by: Scrutt5 Didnt like them much but respect their attempt at building an extremely large alliance.
About sums it up for me. ______________________________________________
"Smite the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered."
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Grim Mercy
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.13 17:08:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Rajere Edited by: Rajere on 13/06/2008 07:29:19 Edited by: Rajere on 13/06/2008 06:58:24 the only facts and figures I mentioned was regarding shade. corp in comparison to my own. You can look up both corps in game to compare membership numbers. You're not allowed to link directly to killboard/killmails in caod, so google-fu to verify those stats. For the record I only compared stats from the time shade. corp began, around 5/4/08 iirc, obviously lifetime kills aren't comparable but of course that was just a strawman of yours anyway. Keep QQing though, poor you guys. btw yes I suck at propaganda, it's why I don't bother. The truth is much easier, if you do something wrong you get called on it, plain and simple. However, spin, damage-control, weaving together a stream of outright lies and convincing other people to believe it, was definitely fried's forte.
and yes, if all you do is fly nano/cloak****ging ships and kill afk players, anything less than 99% efficiency...like your 79%, is a joke.
Calling everything that spews from your mouth "The Truth" is spin. Your view of the past is directly opposite from everyone else's memory of events who was around then. Fried may be good at demagoguery and convincing arguement, but he's not that good.
Your killboard stats and comparisons are spin. When called on the fact that you were comparing a two month old corp's stats to yours, you dropped the "obviously lifetime kills aren't comparable but of course that was just a strawman of yours anyway" line, which is saying "yeah, that's true, but it's not important. I didn't want that debate trophy anyway." And your KB has been proven light on the loss-mails in the past, so the figures you provide, while entertaining, are only confirmed through you, and as such are completely biased (not to mention, inaccurate).
Your constant heckling of the former BRUCE leadership is spin. The whole fact that you still post and repost in any and all threads about BRUCE show everyone the huge chip on your shoulder. Can words about past drama be trusted from you, given your obvious disdain and partisan view? You seem to think so; anyone who's ever voted probably thinks not. I personally don't care for them either; I also don't rant and rave at every opportunity about year-old grievances that really just boiled down to personality conflicts.
The fact that you say you don't spin and offer unbiased "truth" is, itself, spin. Why have to state that anywhere if it is, in fact, truth?
I have faith that, someday, you'll get it. You'll understand the CAOD black-out rules we had, and the extremely well thought out posts by the leadership when they did post. You may even understand why almost all troll-posts were completely ignored, not answered with so much as a peep. You'll be able to look back one day and say "wow, I've really come a long ways. I get it now."
Until then, pipe down, because no one who was there and remembers what happened cares what you have to say, and no one that believes any of that drivel is worth having around. |
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Rajere
No Trademark The OSS
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Posted - 2008.06.13 17:25:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Rajere on 13/06/2008 17:26:09 there's only so many times you can confuse me for someone else, and only so many times I can call you on it before realizing you lack the ability to learn, so I won't bother anymore. The one point I will refute is this: "And your KB has been proven light on the loss-mails in the past, so the figures you provide, while entertaining, are only confirmed through you, and as such are completely biased (not to mention, inaccurate). " Proven? One ex-bruce spouts something as fact, and you then parrot it back and so it's proven? Sorrowed made this claim and it was so rediculous I didn't even bother with a retort (seriously, bruce claiming an opponent doesn't post losses? You hid behind a private killboard @ 30% efficiency with over half of your losses going unposted). I could say man up and unhide your killboard before you dare accuse anyone of not posting losses but there's no point now, none of you are still in bruce. I will say this is the most outrageous claim i've ever seen, as unlike yourselves, we require every single loss to be posted. I'll make you a deal, KB is in the sig, if you can find a single lossmail missing, doesn't matter what it is, a pod, a shuttle, hell a newbship even, i'll stop making fun of bruce on caod. Our KB started in October, so please, prove me wrong. Better yet, the killmail system was overhauled 12/6/07, I'll invite chribba or whoever neutral 3rd party into corp to verify any alleged lossmail through the api system. Since your claims are nothing more than baseless propaganda and smack, the very things you accuse me of, when you fail to back up your claims please eat a bowl of, well you know, and stop posting. Thanks. |
xRevolveRx
Masters of Mayhem
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Posted - 2008.06.13 17:34:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Rajere Edited by: Rajere on 13/06/2008 17:26:09 there's only so many times you can confuse me for someone else, and only so many times I can call you on it before realizing you lack the ability to learn, so I won't bother anymore. The one point I will refute is this: "And your KB has been proven light on the loss-mails in the past, so the figures you provide, while entertaining, are only confirmed through you, and as such are completely biased (not to mention, inaccurate). " Proven? One ex-bruce spouts something as fact, and you then parrot it back and so it's proven? Sorrowed made this claim and it was so rediculous I didn't even bother with a retort (seriously, bruce claiming an opponent doesn't post losses? You hid behind a private killboard @ 30% efficiency with over half of your losses going unposted). I could say man up and unhide your killboard before you dare accuse anyone of not posting losses but there's no point now, none of you are still in bruce. I will say this is the most outrageous claim i've ever seen, as unlike yourselves, we require every single loss to be posted. I'll make you a deal, KB is in the sig, if you can find a single lossmail missing, doesn't matter what it is, a pod, a shuttle, hell a newbship even, i'll stop making fun of bruce on caod. Our KB started in October, so please, prove me wrong. Better yet, the killmail system was overhauled 12/6/07, I'll invite chribba or whoever neutral 3rd party into corp to verify any alleged lossmail through the api system. Since your claims are nothing more than baseless propaganda and smack, the very things you accuse me of, when you fail to back up your claims please eat a bowl of, well you know, and stop posting. Thanks.
you expect people to read that ****? |
Grim Mercy
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.13 17:49:00 -
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BRUCE had a posted official in charge of surfing public KBs and posting loss mails that weren't posted. It did happen, BRUCEs not posting loss mails, but it was rare, and usually found on public killboards and posted anyway. The repeat offenders were warned and then punished if the warning didn't take.
A lot of the statistical errors were caused by NAP-fest alliances posting on only their own KBs, showing 80% effeciency rates against BRUCE, and not taking into account the fact that ALL of them, together, were logged on ours, showing a favorable rate to BRUCE. So, when BRUCE would refute claims that we were getting the crap kicked out of us (in Syndicate, the beatings usually went the other way, hence "BRUCE blobs wah wah wah") we would get accused of making up hundreds of killmails, while the more likely truth was that a few from such-and-such alliance and a few from their friends didn't post their losses.
The disparities were hotly contested, once upon a time, always coming back to BRUCE having a private KB. Well, guess what: BRUCE didn't measure success on K/D ratios, or even ISK lost/destroyed ratios. If that were the case, the last six months would have looked quite different. Other than the Cloud Ring campaign, I don't remember seeing an efficiency over 50%. So, if BRUCE lied, why not go all the way and make our ratios positive? On a private KB, the only reason to inflate numbers would be for an internal morale jedi-mind trick, and it most definitely was not used as such. The only time those statistics were posted publicly were to refute claims that HUZZAH/NOTR/OSS were kicking our butts with unbelievable efficiencies. I'm not saying we never lost fights to any of those entities, we most certainly did, but those entities (especially you, Rajere) tried to tell the entire Eve universe that we were repeatedly getting our asses handed to us, despite our gigantic numbers. That was never the case, and you know it. |
Rajere
No Trademark The OSS
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Posted - 2008.06.13 18:00:00 -
[94]
Just keep spinning. "Oh crap Rajere called me on my BS and made me look stupid, quick deflect with yet another baseless accusation" I present to you:
"but those entities (especially you, Rajere) tried to tell the entire Eve universe that we were repeatedly getting our asses handed to us, despite our gigantic numbers."
Anything else you want to pull out of your *** while you're reaching down there anyway? Seriously, stop posting. |
Ilany
BANK of HUZZAH FEDERATION HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.06.13 19:35:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Ilany on 13/06/2008 19:36:35 Edited by: Ilany on 13/06/2008 19:35:39
Originally by: Eltyron
Originally by: Ilany
I saw what you did there.
Whats to see?
Oh right, sorry - I assumed your post was an impression of a certain ego-centric former-alliance former-leader who had a tendency to appear on these boards and tell everyone how every disaster was all part of the big plan and BRUCE would learn from the experience etc etc. |
evoli rehathe
The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:14:00 -
[96]
Hey all my ex BRUCES! Sorrowed , grim, hell even raj all these ex bruces fighting about bruce! Just wanted to stop by and say sup!
Who are you mary anne, you don't show on our killboards so I'm assuming your a alt?
later peeps
evo
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2008.06.13 21:24:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Carrier Eleven
Originally by: Issler Dainze
Also, consider a name less pretentious, "Brutally Clever"? Kind of sad looking at how it ended.
Issler
They could use the alliance name "The Ford Explorer" then come hang out in highsec with your pack of losers.
Consider aquiring a thesarus. Accord = alliance. Explorer really doesn't have any meaning relevant to the concept of an alliance.
Also, hardly losers (we are extremely happy doing exactly what we enjoy most) and hardly high sec, we are very active on low sec which is in many ways more challenging that living safely behind a gate bubble in some 0.0 backwater.
Finally a shiny "Hi" to the former BRUCE in the thread that passed through Tada O on their way in (or out). Glad to see you all still out in the 'verse!
Issler |
Grim Mercy
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.13 21:26:00 -
[98]
Ok, Rajere, you win. I'll stop posting. Posting in this thread feels like trying to get my nephew to potty before bed, anyway. He doesn't ever think he has to go right then, but you know he'll end up wetting himself in the night.
So, go ahead an keep ****ing in the bed, Rajere. I honestly don't care.
You win at Eve, and the forums, and logic. I'll tip my glass in your honor tonight, and I expect you to do the same, if you're old enough for whatever the laws are in your part of the world. |
Mary Anne
Belgica Optimus Serpensis
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Posted - 2008.06.13 22:21:00 -
[99]
Originally by: evoli rehathe Hey all my ex BRUCES! Sorrowed , grim, hell even raj all these ex bruces fighting about bruce! Just wanted to stop by and say sup!
Who are you mary anne, you don't show on our killboards so I'm assuming your a alt?
later peeps
evo
Dear evoli,
I am ... just a small girl looking for real men and did not find them in BRUCE
Yours most kindly
Mary Anne
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IronGoldenEagle
Electro Fuels
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Posted - 2008.06.13 23:13:00 -
[100]
Quote: Dear evoli,
I am ... just a small girl looking for real men and did not find them in BRUCE
Yours most kindly
Mary Anne
Ouch, just ripped them off and stomped on them. Burn...
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Olex Grant
Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.06.13 23:18:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Grim Mercy ... claims that HUZZAH/NOTR/OSS were kicking our butts with unbelievable efficiencies ...
I have the foolish urge to raise my head above the parapet and into the line of fire on this one, if only to point out that Huzzah (along with EXM and FireM) stood alone against BRUCE after OSS's disastrous NAP fiasco with BRUCE and it was during this time that we got our best results against you - the Aeon kill in PC9 being the obvious example.
Broadly speaking, when we were all NAPed (we being Huzzah, OSS and the others of that time), we had roughly equal numbers on both sides I would guess and we had some great fights as I recall. When that fell apart we were vastly outnumbered in Syndicate, as virtually everyone in Syndicate was hostile to us, but having said that, it was the best time for us.
It'll be interesting to see how the shoe being on the other foot this time round pans out for BRUCE.
______________________________________________
"Smite the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered."
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Wusti
The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.06.15 11:39:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Wusti on 15/06/2008 11:42:31 I still don't get why these BRUCE and former-BRUCE characters come on these forums trying to defend BRUCE and everything about it.
Wake up guys - you would still own Fountain and be carrying that arrogant smart-arse attitude around with you now if you were so bloody great and glorious.
And seriously Grim - praising the posts of guys like Freid and 12oz, and then accusing others of spin was the most exasperating thing I've read on CAOD. You truly ARE delusional.
I have documented evidence of fabrications from the ex-BRUCE leaders - hit me up in game. Once you go through that evidence you will start to realise the "Glorious Ideal" was a sham from beginning to end.
But for gods sake, just stop posting like this. I honestly feel sorry for many of the BRUCE members who were lead on by all of this -just open your eyes buddy and seek the truth - it is "out there" LOL
Edited PS: For those who are now tired of BRUCE threads I'm with ya - but couldn't help myself. Also - I have no problem with any game or meta-game mechanic per se, I do have a problem with those who claim to be above it all, whilst indulging it themselves. In this game be nasty, be nice, but please don't go on endlessly about claiming the high moral ground when it just aint yours. _______________________
Welcome to The New Era
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S1r Minealot
Shade.
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Posted - 2008.06.16 21:43:00 -
[103]
Edited by: S1r Minealot on 16/06/2008 21:43:59
Originally by: Rajere Edited by: Rajere on 13/06/2008 17:26:09 there's only so many times you can confuse me for someone else, and only so many times I can call you on it before realizing you lack the ability to learn, so I won't bother anymore. The one point I will refute is this: "And your KB has been proven light on the loss-mails in the past, so the figures you provide, while entertaining, are only confirmed through you, and as such are completely biased (not to mention, inaccurate). " Proven? One ex-bruce spouts something as fact, and you then parrot it back and so it's proven? Sorrowed made this claim and it was so rediculous I didn't even bother with a retort (seriously, bruce claiming an opponent doesn't post losses? You hid behind a private killboard @ 30% efficiency with over half of your losses going unposted). I could say man up and unhide your killboard before you dare accuse anyone of not posting losses but there's no point now, none of you are still in bruce. I will say this is the most outrageous claim i've ever seen, as unlike yourselves, we require every single loss to be posted. I'll make you a deal, KB is in the sig, if you can find a single lossmail missing, doesn't matter what it is, a pod, a shuttle, hell a newbship even, i'll stop making fun of bruce on caod. Our KB started in October, so please, prove me wrong. Better yet, the killmail system was overhauled 12/6/07, I'll invite chribba or whoever neutral 3rd party into corp to verify any alleged lossmail through the api system. Since your claims are nothing more than baseless propaganda and smack, the very things you accuse me of, when you fail to back up your claims please eat a bowl of, well you know, and stop posting. Thanks.
Rajere, after you have talked to "Vandergrift Paige" from No Trademark and checked the Shade. public killboard, i hope you keep your word and stick to the deal.
Just ask what happened with his Armageddon in IIRH on 2008-05-31 20:40:00
nuff said
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The Ubernomicon
Eight year old girls
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Posted - 2008.06.17 00:33:00 -
[104]
Glad to see that Brutally Clever Empire was a misnomer.
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Eltyron
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.17 00:36:00 -
[105]
Originally by: The Ubernomicon Glad to see that Brutally Clever Empire was a misnomer.
Your corp intrigues me. Please send me more information as to how to join.
My references: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8dFf-BhUzk
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Empyre
Domestic Reform
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Posted - 2008.06.17 00:37:00 -
[106]
Originally by: PsychoBones Edited by: PsychoBones on 07/06/2008 02:44:15 First in a BRUCE failurecascade thread
hows that whole "defeat bob" thing going?
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IronGoldenEagle
Electro Fuels
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Posted - 2008.06.17 00:38:00 -
[107]
There was a lack of cleverness form the top down. As for the brutal, throwing mk3s wave upon wave on the enemies superior fittings (out of being flexible, PL is smart) for 2 months without change fits the the bill.
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Karenzi
No Trademark The OSS
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Posted - 2008.06.17 00:51:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Grim Mercy Ok, Rajere, you win. I'll stop posting. Posting in this thread feels like trying to get my nephew to potty before bed, anyway. He doesn't ever think he has to go right then, but you know he'll end up wetting himself in the night.
So, go ahead an keep ****ing in the bed, Rajere. I honestly don't care.
You win at Eve, and the forums, and logic. I'll tip my glass in your honor tonight, and I expect you to do the same, if you're old enough for whatever the laws are in your part of the world.
i dont think you could be more see through. get a life
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mazzilliu
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.17 01:12:00 -
[109]
bruce are the best opponents ive ever fought in an internet space game. i mean this honestly, and i wish more of our opponents could be like bruce in every way.
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Wusti
The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.06.17 03:00:00 -
[110]
Having now been hit up in-game a couple of times for my evidence, I have now located all component parts and and have put it together to make the provision of it easier. Should anyone else want it, or those who have asked preivously want the full details, please request again.
Please note this will only be provided to those with a bonafide interest in the matters _______________________
Welcome to The New Era
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Shinma Apollo
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.17 07:29:00 -
[111]
Originally by: IronGoldenEagle There was a lack of cleverness form the top down. As for the brutal, throwing mk3s wave upon wave on the enemies superior fittings (out of being flexible, PL is smart) for 2 months without change fits the the bill.
IGE, I think you really didn't get a sense of the difficulty the FCs, particularly, Kith, were enduring at the time, and there were two different modifications to the fleet fits, but thanks for remembering.
Second, we did start to adopt a sniper doctrine, and we used it for exactly 1 battle, which we won and held the field. (I remember PL gaves us props in local for it)
Originally by: mazzilliu bruce are the best opponents ive ever fought in an internet space game. i mean this honestly, and i wish more of our opponents could be like bruce in every way.
Though I know this is meant sardonically, I'll reciprocate more genuinely; I had a lot of fighting against PL and the entire 'Fall of BRUCE.' PL is a top-notch alliance, and in spite of being on the losing side, it was a very satisfying challenge flying and FCing against you guys. You would have loved some of the hair-brained ideas we came up with in secret to try and beat the vent hack, like getting "Arnold" to sing opera loudly while targets were broadcast.
On a side note, is that 'sing for a moon' deal still up for me, cause I wouldn't mind a personal Dypso moon now
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mazzilliu
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.17 08:30:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Shinma Apollo
Originally by: mazzilliu bruce are the best opponents ive ever fought in an internet space game. i mean this honestly, and i wish more of our opponents could be like bruce in every way.
Though I know this is meant sardonically, I'll reciprocate more genuinely; I had a lot of fighting against PL and the entire 'Fall of BRUCE.' PL is a top-notch alliance, and in spite of being on the losing side, it was a very satisfying challenge flying and FCing against you guys. You would have loved some of the hair-brained ideas we came up with in secret to try and beat the vent hack, like getting "Arnold" to sing opera loudly while targets were broadcast.
On a side note, is that 'sing for a moon' deal still up for me, cause I wouldn't mind a personal Dypso moon now
"itsy bitsy spider" might net you a sillicates moon, but if you want dyspro, you better put a full chior ensemble together for us
Also I do mean it genuinely as well, BRUCE were really a unique alliance that i've seen in EVE and i enjoyed seeing all the different things BRUCE tried(in public and in secret). i believe fighting bruce was the most fun ive had in eve... ever. forgive my smack in the past, it was mostly written hot off of our trying to deal with bruce diplomats and other walls to bang our head against. i later found bruce to be much more enjoyable when they just spat hate and i could just accept that and kill them.
and to let you in on a little secret between you and me and CAOD... there was exactly zero hacking involved. i don't know if its even possible to hack your vent server, provided it's updated software. didn't you guys notice a HUGE number of reps with leadership access in bruce? one of them was longterm friends with one of my guys and i managed to swing a deal that got us a feed of info from leadership. terrible recruitment policies took care of the rest, as when you have a dozen different characters in bruce its really easy just to rotate between them if you think one is being suspected of something, the traditional method of "make a list... strike off the good ones" really falls apart when the pool of suspects is wide.
kugutsumen was thrown in there to make you guys **** your pants and pay attention to what we had to say. if we woulda done something different we might have eased up a bit on the idea of "hacking" so you guys wouldnt blindly hate us so much you would do nothing but get in the way but eh, 20/20 hindsight
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IronGoldenEagle
Electro Fuels
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Posted - 2008.06.17 08:49:00 -
[113]
Edited by: IronGoldenEagle on 17/06/2008 08:52:07 Omg I'm actually going to respond to someone on COAD, guess cuz hes a former corpie. The Mk3s were a great theory. Ill repeat, a great THEORY. But it should have been quite obvious going into Fountain with a large member base and expecting blob warfare with other alliance that the mk3 theory fails completely in lag situations and in many non ones as well. Even in non lag situations tho PL would just pop the ships by switching targets quickly or hitting one so quick with enough DPS to kill it b4 the RR landed and as it was all armor based, you didnt usually cal for it until about 1/4 into shields (or thats what we started having to do, but PLs constantly switching targets killed that).
So yeah the mk3s were a terrible fitting that didnt work and could have and should have been scrapped as well as the reimbursemnt program when we had the moons to pay for the stuff. Instead people waited weeks for new ships instead of just grabbing their own and going right back out. O and the people that tried to argue these systems were failures and change them were snubbed and ridiculed so yeah. Epic phail
EDIT: And those modificatiosn were the sniper and battlecruiser mk3s. Guess what, the Battlecruiser mk3s were complete and utter failures across the board.
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Shinma Apollo
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.17 10:09:00 -
[114]
Edited by: Shinma Apollo on 17/06/2008 10:10:19
Originally by: mazzilliu
if we woulda done something different we might have eased up a bit on the idea of "hacking" so you guys wouldnt blindly hate us so much you would do nothing but get in the way but eh, 20/20 hindsight
Just from sampling, there was a large portion of BRUCE that probably would have enjoyed the offer to some assistance with retraining and reps council was just a brutal idea in its design; how you could put a 20 man alt corp as being as significant, from a point of influence and power, as a 500 man PvP corp is beyond me. Then again, we also had corps that put small towers with no defenses on Dypso moons.
Oh well, doubt I speak for all my former alliance mates, but I'll be cheering for 'Cruel Sons Legion' for Fountain round 3; now to go compose my magnum opus, 'I want Dypso'
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SEN TAKOO
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Posted - 2008.06.18 22:46:00 -
[115]
Well being an ex-Bruce member I liked my time in fountain, I had no real problem with fitting the Friedrick mkIII's the remote repping saved my ass many times (unless I was flying a scorp) I made lots of isk while down in fountain selling rigs to ppl needing to replace BS's which was offten, the fights did suck when you had 200+ ppl on the same grid, but overall it was a great learning experience and I didnt lose any iskies personally when Dead parrots up and left so..... I will say that when things were working well our response time to reds in system was great, it was nothing to get 50+ ppl in a fleet in under 5 mins, how many other alliances can say that? from looking at post on subject I'm sure I'll get flamed quick but who cares? that seems thats what this fourm is all about.
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xRevolveRx
Masters of Mayhem
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Posted - 2008.06.18 23:15:00 -
[116]
its over. let it go |
BAteh
The Elear FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.18 23:34:00 -
[117]
Originally by: xRevolveRx its over. let it go
You're not a judge nor a referee.
<sarcasm> Come on, be nice, stop dissing BRUCE.
Like... they're so nice. Take this example: Member for 4 months, and (im guessing) because i had a -very- serious personal problem (hospital, needles, MRIs, you get the picture) i was never even given the "Recruit" Title. No roles, no nothing.
Then, when Bruce had to flee out of Fountain because of their pathetic "MK3 official fleet fits" aka:
"you have to field that crap or else you won't get reimbursed", the oh-so-generous pilots who transported our GSCs.... apparently were allowed to steal whatever they were transporting.
Unless it's pure coincidence that out of the 4 GSCs i threw in the hangar to be transported, ONLY the one with my Faction gear and T2 vanished... In case you're wondering, of course i alerted about this missing GSC, of course noone cared. And mine wasn't the only "misplaced" GSC... </sarcasm>
On top of my personal crap, BRUCE has made this game into something i do NOT want to be involved with, instead of something i used as escape from RL, which (i already said why) WAS helping me through a rough stage.
Go rot in hell.
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xRevolveRx
Masters of Mayhem
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Posted - 2008.06.18 23:59:00 -
[118]
Originally by: BAteh
Originally by: xRevolveRx its over. let it go
You're not a judge nor a referee.
<sarcasm> Come on, be nice, stop dissing BRUCE.
Like... they're so nice. Take this example: Member for 4 months, and (im guessing) because i had a -very- serious personal problem (hospital, needles, MRIs, you get the picture) i was never even given the "Recruit" Title. No roles, no nothing.
Then, when Bruce had to flee out of Fountain because of their pathetic "MK3 official fleet fits" aka:
"you have to field that crap or else you won't get reimbursed", the oh-so-generous pilots who transported our GSCs.... apparently were allowed to steal whatever they were transporting.
Unless it's pure coincidence that out of the 4 GSCs i threw in the hangar to be transported, ONLY the one with my Faction gear and T2 vanished... In case you're wondering, of course i alerted about this missing GSC, of course noone cared. And mine wasn't the only "misplaced" GSC... </sarcasm>
On top of my personal crap, BRUCE has made this game into something i do NOT want to be involved with, instead of something i used as escape from RL, which (i already said why) WAS helping me through a rough stage.
Go rot in hell.
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Battlestar Galactica
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Posted - 2008.06.19 12:42:00 -
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does any1 care anymore?
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Carrier Eleven
EVE Posting Service
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Posted - 2008.06.19 13:55:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Battlestar Galactica does any1 care anymore?
Just a few BRUCE haters who keep resurrecting these threads
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The Ubernomicon
Eight year old girls
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Posted - 2008.06.19 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: xRevolveRx You should probably thank midgath stallsman. Never trust a goonie.
He is not one of the people I scammed. BRUCE leadership did more damage to the alliance then anything I could ever do, focus on them before getting upset at the lousy 3b I made off with.
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.19 18:32:00 -
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Edited by: Moon Kitten on 19/06/2008 18:32:45 3 billion is not that much when titans are stolen in other alliances.
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Steph Wing
Electro Fuels
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Posted - 2008.06.19 19:01:00 -
[123]
Posting in a BRUCE-bash thread.
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Gerwyn Archimaga
Metro Distributors
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Posted - 2008.06.19 19:44:00 -
[124]
Originally by: IronGoldenEagle There was a lack of cleverness form the top down.
Just about right, except you should delete the last word.
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Grim Mercy
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.19 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: Grim Mercy on 19/06/2008 20:18:54
Originally by: Rajere If whoever was in charge of bruce now had any decency they would just close the alliance down, then this thread along with the alliance could die in peace. As it stands now you're bleeding ~30 members a day and it appears your alliance will limp along wherever you are now, obviously not fountain or syndicate, failboating for another month before you lose all your members.
And once again, showing off that giant chip on your shoulder.
The former BRUCEs that post in here seem to be showing their frustrations at what happened in the last few months, the perceived screwing-over or bailing out of leadership, and generally expressing regret that things went the way things went, for good or ill.
Then there's Rajere, who is still slinging insults over something that happened, what, a year ago? You were a forum ****-talker back then, and you're a forum ****-talker now. Way to go, Progress!
This is the part where you tell me to stop posting.
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xRevolveRx
Masters of Mayhem
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Posted - 2008.06.19 20:38:00 -
[126]
Originally by: The Ubernomicon
Originally by: xRevolveRx You should probably thank midgath stallsman. Never trust a goonie.
He is not one of the people I scammed. BRUCE leadership did more damage to the alliance then anything I could ever do, focus on them before getting upset at the lousy 3b I made off with.
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mazzilliu
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.19 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Grim Mercy Edited by: Grim Mercy on 19/06/2008 20:18:54
Originally by: Rajere If whoever was in charge of bruce now had any decency they would just close the alliance down, then this thread along with the alliance could die in peace. As it stands now you're bleeding ~30 members a day and it appears your alliance will limp along wherever you are now, obviously not fountain or syndicate, failboating for another month before you lose all your members.
And once again, showing off that giant chip on your shoulder.
The former BRUCEs that post in here seem to be showing their frustrations at what happened in the last few months, the perceived screwing-over or bailing out of leadership, and generally expressing regret that things went the way things went, for good or ill.
Then there's Rajere, who is still slinging insults over something that happened, what, a year ago? You were a forum ****-talker back then, and you're a forum ****-talker now. Way to go, Progress!
This is the part where you tell me to stop posting.
bruce is a zombie allinace right now, it doesnt have the strength to carve out its place in syndicate npc. no long time FCs the regular members can rally behind, no strong leadership heads that are not involved with, causing, or tied to the failures in fountain(said leadership fired or caused those FCs to burn out or leave with their corp). the majority of members doesn't want to move major assets to syndicate because they dont think bruce has staying power in the area. whatever they choose, to go to high/lowsec or disband, their current course of action is not sustainable and they're going to have to make a choice soon or the members will make a choice for them.
personally i dont care which of the three paths bruce takes, but Sniggwaffe is recruiting, and today and yesterday i was teaching them how to tackle and i got so many of them killed until they learned to tackle and stopped dying it was fun.
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Dianeces
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.19 23:02:00 -
[128]
Originally by: mazzilliu
personally i dont care which of the three paths bruce takes, but Sniggwaffe is recruiting, and today and yesterday i was teaching them how to tackle and i got so many of them killed until they learned to tackle and stopped dying it was fun.
Mazz is a demanding dictator.
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mazzilliu
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.20 04:20:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Dianeces
Originally by: mazzilliu
personally i dont care which of the three paths bruce takes, but Sniggwaffe is recruiting, and today and yesterday i was teaching them how to tackle and i got so many of them killed until they learned to tackle and stopped dying it was fun.
Mazz is a demanding dictator.
a moment of silence for those lost....
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