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Tripoli
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Posted - 2004.09.16 06:09:00 -
[31]
To the best of my knowledge, the devs claim that training is halted. HOWEVER, as far as my experience and the experience of others suggests, training continues.
For the record, I do not support training like that.....Games are best......when played. 
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2004.09.16 06:09:00 -
[32]
To the best of my knowledge, the devs claim that training is halted. HOWEVER, as far as my experience and the experience of others suggests, training continues.
For the record, I do not support training like that.....Games are best......when played.
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2004.09.16 09:59:00 -
[33]
wait a minute
i got 21 memory
and learning lvl4
does that mean i have 8% extra atributes on it
wish means,
22.68 is what i actually got
why doesn t it show as 22 at least
i got 13 hours left to learning 5
wish means i ll have 23.1
im doing this right or wrong
my attributes right now are
inl-20. precep-11. char-14. will-14. memo-21
after learning level 5 i assume they should be.
inl-22. precep-12.1. char-15.4 will-15.4. memo-23.1
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2004.09.16 09:59:00 -
[34]
wait a minute
i got 21 memory
and learning lvl4
does that mean i have 8% extra atributes on it
wish means,
22.68 is what i actually got
why doesn t it show as 22 at least
i got 13 hours left to learning 5
wish means i ll have 23.1
im doing this right or wrong
my attributes right now are
inl-20. precep-11. char-14. will-14. memo-21
after learning level 5 i assume they should be.
inl-22. precep-12.1. char-15.4 will-15.4. memo-23.1
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2004.09.17 14:50:00 -
[35]
Well, it's hard to tell with your description.
If your character sheet says 21, then you have somewhere between 21.00 and 21.99.
If you post all your attributes, and any implants you have, we can figure out what your exact attribs are.
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2004.09.17 14:50:00 -
[36]
Well, it's hard to tell with your description.
If your character sheet says 21, then you have somewhere between 21.00 and 21.99.
If you post all your attributes, and any implants you have, we can figure out what your exact attribs are.
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2004.09.17 16:40:00 -
[37]
Edited by: JarmenKell on 17/09/2004 16:42:58
Edited by: JarmenKell on 17/09/2004 16:42:35
 Originally by: Tripoli
Well, it's hard to tell with your description.
If your character sheet says 21, then you have somewhere between 21.00 and 21.99.
If you post all your attributes, and any implants you have, we can figure out what your exact attribs are.
my attribute right not are in order intel-precep-charisma-will-memory
20.11.14.14.21. this is with all +3 implants
without implants i would have
17.9.12.12.18
oh and right now i got learning level 5.
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2004.09.17 16:40:00 -
[38]
Edited by: JarmenKell on 17/09/2004 16:42:58
Edited by: JarmenKell on 17/09/2004 16:42:35
Originally by: Tripoli
Well, it's hard to tell with your description.
If your character sheet says 21, then you have somewhere between 21.00 and 21.99.
If you post all your attributes, and any implants you have, we can figure out what your exact attribs are.
my attribute right not are in order intel-precep-charisma-will-memory
20.11.14.14.21. this is with all +3 implants
without implants i would have
17.9.12.12.18
oh and right now i got learning level 5.
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2004.09.18 04:45:00 -
[39]
It is not possible to have an attribute listed as 21 when you have learning level 5.
Attribute points simply add like this:
Base Attrib + Skill Level + Implant
eg. 11 + 5 + 3 = 19
THEN you multiply that by your learning skill (level 5 10%)
So, (11+5+3)*1.1 = 20.90 which on your character sheet will display as 20.
Adding 1 attrib point to that gets you (12+5+3)*1.1 = 22.00, which displays as 22.
Therefore it is not possible to have a 21.xx attribute with level 5 learning.
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2004.09.18 04:45:00 -
[40]
It is not possible to have an attribute listed as 21 when you have learning level 5.
Attribute points simply add like this:
Base Attrib + Skill Level + Implant
eg. 11 + 5 + 3 = 19
THEN you multiply that by your learning skill (level 5 10%)
So, (11+5+3)*1.1 = 20.90 which on your character sheet will display as 20.
Adding 1 attrib point to that gets you (12+5+3)*1.1 = 22.00, which displays as 22.
Therefore it is not possible to have a 21.xx attribute with level 5 learning.
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2004.09.18 12:46:00 -
[41]
dude im so confused.
i ll talke to you in game, or something if its ok with you.
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2004.09.18 12:46:00 -
[42]
dude im so confused.
i ll talke to you in game, or something if its ok with you.
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2004.09.19 01:04:00 -
[43]
Any time. 
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2004.09.19 01:04:00 -
[44]
Any time.
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Arte
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Posted - 2004.09.19 12:04:00 -
[45]
After creating a character on a second account, I vowed to train up learning skills before anything else, with the only interuptions being those skills needed for implants that I bought for him using my main character.
I trained mem/int/learing/ to V in stages of 1 lvl each time in rotation.
I started using Eve character manager from eve-i.com whilst doing this and when I typed in the follow on skills that I wish to train after learning skills, it suggested that I would save 4 days over a 39 day period by training learning V, bringing it down to 34 days and something hours
To me that seems like a worthwhile investment in training to learning V, i.e almost recovered the lost days. I dont understand where I'll be waiting 140 days to recoup my time.
Is this right or is Eve Character Manager flawed?
(the skills I wanted to train are based on int and mem which are high for my alt, if that makes any difference)
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Arte
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Posted - 2004.09.19 12:04:00 -
[46]
After creating a character on a second account, I vowed to train up learning skills before anything else, with the only interuptions being those skills needed for implants that I bought for him using my main character.
I trained mem/int/learing/ to V in stages of 1 lvl each time in rotation.
I started using Eve character manager from eve-i.com whilst doing this and when I typed in the follow on skills that I wish to train after learning skills, it suggested that I would save 4 days over a 39 day period by training learning V, bringing it down to 34 days and something hours
To me that seems like a worthwhile investment in training to learning V, i.e almost recovered the lost days. I dont understand where I'll be waiting 140 days to recoup my time.
Is this right or is Eve Character Manager flawed?
(the skills I wanted to train are based on int and mem which are high for my alt, if that makes any difference)
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2004.09.19 12:26:00 -
[47]
The 140 days is the time it takes for you to make up 210,745 SP worth of training after only a 2% increase in training speed.
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2004.09.19 12:26:00 -
[48]
The 140 days is the time it takes for you to make up 210,745 SP worth of training after only a 2% increase in training speed.
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Arte
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Posted - 2004.09.19 12:30:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Tripoli
The 140 days is the time it takes for you to make up 210,745 SP worth of training after only a 2% increase in training speed.
Understood. Thanks.
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Arte
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Posted - 2004.09.19 12:30:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Tripoli
The 140 days is the time it takes for you to make up 210,745 SP worth of training after only a 2% increase in training speed.
Understood. Thanks.
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Arte
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Posted - 2004.09.19 12:30:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Tripoli
The 140 days is the time it takes for you to make up 210,745 SP worth of training after only a 2% increase in training speed.
Understood. Thanks.
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Arte
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Posted - 2004.09.19 12:30:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Tripoli
The 140 days is the time it takes for you to make up 210,745 SP worth of training after only a 2% increase in training speed.
Understood. Thanks.
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2004.10.01 10:46:00 -
[53]
I started with 12 charisma, can someone please help me 
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2004.10.01 10:46:00 -
[54]
I started with 12 charisma, can someone please help me
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2004.10.01 10:46:00 -
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I started with 12 charisma, can someone please help me
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2004.10.01 10:46:00 -
[56]
I started with 12 charisma, can someone please help me
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Lord Wimbishi
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Posted - 2004.10.05 14:33:00 -
[57]
Yo trip. I see you are still using your formala which is all fine and cool. There are several ways to calculate it but still stand steadfast in saying that the formula you present is still not how the game is working it. as per the skill Learning shows..
2% reduction in skill training time.
does NOT say 2% increase to all attributes per level.
I point back to my original post which few have tried to put their own ideas of how to calculate training time. Just keep it kinda simple dude. If your formula works for you, hey great good for you and those that would try to go by it. I will stick to mine and there is another that other dude came up with 250 x rank. Good for him on figuring THAT way out.
Point is peoples is there are several good ways to come up with training times. if any of the ways here works for ya hey use it and hope it gives some accuracy down to the minutes and seconds. I know mine gets it at least down the the minutes.
I will advise those using my posted method to go with the formula I posted. It doesn't complicate anything and you can add up the total sums of identical training times in a skill tree to give you an estimate of time needed for the combined skills. The others probably could do the same. If ya get a good formula to work for you then just stick with it. I am open in game to help with character skill planning as well. and well I go for the lvl 5 skills all the time because it is planning for the LONG run not a short few months where yes for a begining character can see an immediate effect of their training time. if you get around to be an old dog like me then you need to start planning for weeks and months at a time so you can achieve your character's fantasy.
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Lord Wimbishi
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Posted - 2004.10.05 14:33:00 -
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Yo trip. I see you are still using your formala which is all fine and cool. There are several ways to calculate it but still stand steadfast in saying that the formula you present is still not how the game is working it. as per the skill Learning shows..
2% reduction in skill training time.
does NOT say 2% increase to all attributes per level.
I point back to my original post which few have tried to put their own ideas of how to calculate training time. Just keep it kinda simple dude. If your formula works for you, hey great good for you and those that would try to go by it. I will stick to mine and there is another that other dude came up with 250 x rank. Good for him on figuring THAT way out.
Point is peoples is there are several good ways to come up with training times. if any of the ways here works for ya hey use it and hope it gives some accuracy down to the minutes and seconds. I know mine gets it at least down the the minutes.
I will advise those using my posted method to go with the formula I posted. It doesn't complicate anything and you can add up the total sums of identical training times in a skill tree to give you an estimate of time needed for the combined skills. The others probably could do the same. If ya get a good formula to work for you then just stick with it. I am open in game to help with character skill planning as well. and well I go for the lvl 5 skills all the time because it is planning for the LONG run not a short few months where yes for a begining character can see an immediate effect of their training time. if you get around to be an old dog like me then you need to start planning for weeks and months at a time so you can achieve your character's fantasy.
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Lord Wimbishi
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Posted - 2004.10.05 14:33:00 -
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Yo trip. I see you are still using your formala which is all fine and cool. There are several ways to calculate it but still stand steadfast in saying that the formula you present is still not how the game is working it. as per the skill Learning shows..
2% reduction in skill training time.
does NOT say 2% increase to all attributes per level.
I point back to my original post which few have tried to put their own ideas of how to calculate training time. Just keep it kinda simple dude. If your formula works for you, hey great good for you and those that would try to go by it. I will stick to mine and there is another that other dude came up with 250 x rank. Good for him on figuring THAT way out.
Point is peoples is there are several good ways to come up with training times. if any of the ways here works for ya hey use it and hope it gives some accuracy down to the minutes and seconds. I know mine gets it at least down the the minutes.
I will advise those using my posted method to go with the formula I posted. It doesn't complicate anything and you can add up the total sums of identical training times in a skill tree to give you an estimate of time needed for the combined skills. The others probably could do the same. If ya get a good formula to work for you then just stick with it. I am open in game to help with character skill planning as well. and well I go for the lvl 5 skills all the time because it is planning for the LONG run not a short few months where yes for a begining character can see an immediate effect of their training time. if you get around to be an old dog like me then you need to start planning for weeks and months at a time so you can achieve your character's fantasy.
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Lord Wimbishi
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Posted - 2004.10.05 14:33:00 -
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Yo trip. I see you are still using your formala which is all fine and cool. There are several ways to calculate it but still stand steadfast in saying that the formula you present is still not how the game is working it. as per the skill Learning shows..
2% reduction in skill training time.
does NOT say 2% increase to all attributes per level.
I point back to my original post which few have tried to put their own ideas of how to calculate training time. Just keep it kinda simple dude. If your formula works for you, hey great good for you and those that would try to go by it. I will stick to mine and there is another that other dude came up with 250 x rank. Good for him on figuring THAT way out.
Point is peoples is there are several good ways to come up with training times. if any of the ways here works for ya hey use it and hope it gives some accuracy down to the minutes and seconds. I know mine gets it at least down the the minutes.
I will advise those using my posted method to go with the formula I posted. It doesn't complicate anything and you can add up the total sums of identical training times in a skill tree to give you an estimate of time needed for the combined skills. The others probably could do the same. If ya get a good formula to work for you then just stick with it. I am open in game to help with character skill planning as well. and well I go for the lvl 5 skills all the time because it is planning for the LONG run not a short few months where yes for a begining character can see an immediate effect of their training time. if you get around to be an old dog like me then you need to start planning for weeks and months at a time so you can achieve your character's fantasy.
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