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Sir Scorpion	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:21:00 - [1] Edited by: Sir Scorpion on 07/07/2008 11:24:13 I know dead horse and beaten to a pulp of mush, but so far the only agreement is not to agree, now I love and hate Nano ships in the same time so itÆs usably like eve-forums in my head when I think about it, and all the internal flaming and smack talk in my head is giving me headaches. So might as well go ahead and give you the solution that me and my self are both happy with. Now since Nano ships are expensive, usually T2 and skill intensive, the counter should be the same to be fair. Now we have a 2nd tear battle curser that atm we donÆt have variations for. So from that comes FLAK BATTERY. ôor somethingö Now flak ships will have flak guns with insane tracking speed, however since flak rounds burst in an Arial matter they send shrapnel all over the place, Now the shrapnel on its self dose normal-small damage. However the faster the ship the faster it will impact the shrapnel resulting in more damage and more hits. Now this is just an idea, it might need some more balance and so on, but it will give a ship to All RaceÆs that will be an effective counter to fast ships, itÆs the logical evolution of weapons. Plus it will give me a Jet black Hurricane with orange/red windows, which I demand even if it dose not fix nanos. Well just and idea, any constructive thoughts please go ahead and share, and if a siege model idea for flak ships will help balance them out ?
justsometrader	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:24:00 - [2] - "unidentified entity ahead" - "on the screen" - "what is it sir ?" - "well it looks...it looks like...FAIL !"
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:26:00 - [3] Is dat sum OMG FLAK approaching my nono ship? - DesuSigs
Sir Scorpion	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:26:00 - [4] Originally by: justsometrader - "unidentified entity ahead" - "on the screen" - "what is it sir ?" - "well it looks...it looks like...FAIL !" why? give a reson? or is that all you do is crtl+c, ctrl+v
justsometrader	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:32:00 - [5] its cuz if flak ownz my nono ship its bad....my nanu ship owns other pilots so its good
Siberys	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:36:00 - [6] Well, lets just ask for small guns that deal a moderate amount of damage for their class but have very high tracking speed. You still won't perfectly hit an inty go 11k/second, but then again nothing will.
flashfreaking LFC Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:38:00 - [7] Hai guyz, how does I shoot web? Disallowed sig graphic. Send an e-mail to [email protected] when it meets the forum signature guidelines. ~Saint
Gonada Gallente Cross Roads Ouroboros Cross Combine	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:39:00 - [8] what he means is there ARE counters to nano fleets, in fact if you got off that couch and search these forums you would find it. second, its called tactics, and many of you are WoW kiddies= tactic-less and mostly caldari because just like Warcraft, the caldari missleboats are like the hunter class, easy as hell. L2P girls -I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.- -nerf Missles-
Maceross Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:41:00 - [9] A specialized expensive ship to counter a specialized expensive ship. I like the idea, with a bit of balancing it could work out quite well.
flashfreaking LFC Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:42:00 - [10] Originally by: Maceross A specialized expensive ship to counter a specialized expensive ship. I like the idea, with a bit of balancing it could work out quite well. /me points to the Huginn and Rapier, there you go, your expensive ship to counter the expensive ship... Disallowed sig graphic. Send an e-mail to [email protected] when it meets the forum signature guidelines. ~Saint
Maceross Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:43:00 - [11] ok then, a specialized NON RACE SPECIFIC ship. Smart arse.
Lord Zoran House of Tempers	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:45:00 - [12] i still think nano ships can have far too much dps but anyway yes there are the huginn and rapier but against a few nano ships they are pretty much useless and will go pop very quickly.
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:45:00 - [13] Originally by: Maceross ok then, a specialized NON RACE SPECIFIC ship. Smart arse. What's wrong with training for minmatar? Every race has its strengths and weaknesses, why should every race have an uber nano counter? Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
Taka Caldari Quam Singulari	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:45:00 - [14] Originally by: Sir Scorpion Edited by: Sir Scorpion on 07/07/2008 11:27:22 Edited by: Sir Scorpion on 07/07/2008 11:24:13 I know dead horse and beaten to a pulp of mush, but so far the only agreement is not to agree, now I love and hate Nano ships in the same time so itÆs usably like eve-forums in my head when I think about it, and all the internal flaming and smack talk in my head is giving me headaches. So might as well go ahead and give you the solution that me and my self are both happy with. Now since Nano ships are expensive, usually T2 and skill intensive, the counter should be the same to be fair. Now we have a 2nd tear battle curser that atm we donÆt have variations for. So from that comes FLAK BATTERY. ôor somethingö Now flak ships will have flak guns with insane tracking speed, however since flak rounds burst in an Arial matter they send shrapnel all over the place, Now the shrapnel on its self dose normal-small damage. However the faster the ship the faster it will impact the shrapnel resulting in more damage and more hits. Now this is just an idea, it might need some more balance and so on, but it will give a ship to All RaceÆs that will be an effective counter to fast ships, itÆs the logical evolution of weapons. Plus it will give me a Jet black Hurricane with orange/red windows, which I demand even if it dose not fix nanos. Well just and idea, any constructive thoughts please go ahead and share, and if a siege model idea for flak ships will help balance them out ? its whiners like you who dont actually realise there are counters to nano ships in game!! you ever heard of the huginn? or rapier? or even heavy neutralizers, jammers. use your brain ffs. and stop whining about nano ships, theres enough counters for them. your idea is totally crap btw. if you dont like nanos, dont pvp, there will always be nano ships, and there will always be counters to them, without bringing in more counters!
flashfreaking LFC Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:45:00 - [15] Edited by: flashfreaking on 07/07/2008 11:45:56 Making a ship not race specific, what's the fun in that? I like diversity, doing that isn't helping, we already have enough possibilities to kill of a Nano-gang, try thinking for a second... PS: Taka, don't mind, they think we are "smart asses"... Disallowed sig graphic. Send an e-mail to [email protected] when it meets the forum signature guidelines. ~Saint
Sir Scorpion	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:49:00 - [16] Originally by: Gonada what he means is there ARE counters to nano fleets, in fact if you got off that couch and search these forums you would find it. second, its called tactics, and many of you are WoW kiddies= tactic-less and mostly caldari because just like Warcraft, the caldari missleboats are like the hunter class, easy as hell. L2P girls Now you are not very smart are you? Right? Calling every one that disagree with you a wow player is just sad, very sad. And you should stop that because some times people donÆt know who are thy talking with and make them selfÆs look ignorant. Ok honey bun? Counters for Nano ships I agree with you, with tactics it can be done, but itÆs not a cross racial solution, like interdictors, or Interceptors, or command ships. What if some one dose not want to train for huggin? What dose he do then?
Lo3d3R Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:51:00 - [17] Originally by: justsometrader - "unidentified entity ahead" - "on the screen" - "what is it sir ?" - "well it looks...it looks like...FAIL !" dunno about fail, but your comment made me ~~giggle like a girl~~ laugh. ___________________ Sexy Time:
Sir Scorpion	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:00:00 - [18] Originally by: flashfreaking Edited by: flashfreaking on 07/07/2008 11:45:56 Making a ship not race specific, what's the fun in that? I like diversity, doing that isn't helping, we already have enough possibilities to kill of a Nano-gang, try thinking for a second... PS: Taka, don't mind, they think we are "smart asses"... Now where did I say in my entire post that there are no counters for Nano ships? When and if I will say that, you can come up with the whole ôzomg there are counters noob11!!!ö In regards of a general solution, across all races than thatÆs simply logic, something that eludes many on those so glorious forums. Now lets go back to the 60s..ok? Action-USSR makes ICBMBs. Counter action-USA buys USSR ICBMs? no because they are at a cold war!!! Need me to give you more??
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:05:00 - [19] Combat in EVE? if (Player1.HasNanoShip && !Player2.HasCounterShip) { Player1.Invincible=true; } I herd its liek this. - DesuSigs
flashfreaking LFC Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:08:00 - [20] Originally by: Sir Scorpion What if some one dose not want to train for huggin? What dose he do then? He asks a friend, who does have a Huginn... Disallowed sig graphic. Send an e-mail to [email protected] when it meets the forum signature guidelines. ~Saint
baltec1 Antares Shipyards	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:08:00 - [21] Originally by: Tamia Clant Originally by: Maceross ok then, a specialized NON RACE SPECIFIC ship. Smart arse. What's wrong with training for minmatar? Every race has its strengths and weaknesses, why should every race have an uber nano counter? because every race has nano? As I have said before, give me a new t2 line of battleships with a bonus to extend the range of a domination webber to 30km.
flashfreaking LFC Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:13:00 - [22] Counters to Nano: ECM (Caldari) Webber (Minmattar) Dampning (Gallente) And no clue for Amarr, sorry guys, but yeah, Amarr is nerfed anyway Disallowed sig graphic. Send an e-mail to [email protected] when it meets the forum signature guidelines. ~Saint
Vladimir Griftin	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:13:00 - [23] Originally by: Tamia Clant Originally by: Maceross ok then, a specialized NON RACE SPECIFIC ship. Smart arse. What's wrong with training for minmatar? Every race has its strengths and weaknesses, why should every race have an uber nano counter? We're all Minmatar, we just don't know it yet. 6 months time I can see my overview now.. Vagabond Vagabond Rapier Rapier Huginn Vagabond Vagabond Vagabond Rapier Rapier Vagabond Vagabond Huginn Vagabond Vagabond Vagabond Oh wait..
Sir Scorpion	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:15:00 - [24] Originally by: flashfreaking Originally by: Sir Scorpion What if some one dose not want to train for huggin? What dose he do then? He asks a friend, who does have a Huginn... and what if is friend dose not want to train for a huginn? this can go on and on for a while :)
flashfreaking LFC Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:17:00 - [25] Originally by: Sir Scorpion Originally by: flashfreaking Originally by: Sir Scorpion What if some one dose not want to train for huggin? What dose he do then? He asks a friend, who does have a Huginn... and what if is friend dose not want to train for a huginn? this can go on and on for a while :) /me points to post 22 So, all your friends are Amarr? A counter doesn't mean you have to be able to instapop em, making it impossible for them to pop you is good enough for me most of the time imo... Disallowed sig graphic. Send an e-mail to [email protected] when it meets the forum signature guidelines. ~Saint
baltec1 Antares Shipyards	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:20:00 - [26] Originally by: flashfreaking Counters to Nano: ECM (Caldari) Webber (Minmattar) Dampning (Gallente) And no clue for Amarr, sorry guys, but yeah, Amarr is nerfed anyway For amarr its a mix of webs, scramblers and lots of nos and neuts. Only problem is holding the nano for long enough to turn off its MWD.
flashfreaking LFC Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:21:00 - [27] There you go... Just use the ships you were given, and find a way to use them... Disallowed sig graphic. Send an e-mail to [email protected] when it meets the forum signature guidelines. ~Saint
Lorna Loot Caldari Nox Eternus	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:24:00 - [28] Wait, you want a fancy name for minny guns? FFS projectiles hit nano's perfectly fine. As do pretty much all types of lasers. Stop looking for fixes to things that you haven't looked into properly.
Ralara Caldari Vivicide	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:25:00 - [29] Originally by: Sir Scorpion I know dead horse and beaten to a pulp of mush, but but... you're going to make a thread anyway. --
baltec1 Antares Shipyards	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:26:00 - [30] Originally by: flashfreaking There you go... Just use the ships you were given, and find a way to use them... Just to point out this will only make them run away, just like ECM and large amounts of drakes. If you want to kill nano then your going to have to go nano yourself, get a huggin/rapier or a titan to DDD the area.

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