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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:03:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: forum mematar
Originally by: MotherMoon
Lots of falling
It was a CHJOKE!!
If you check the links in my sig/check mematar ingame you should propably guess that I'm not a damned carebear 
A.my sigs were not on
B. your name is forum member
C. you said those ships are PvE only, labeling yourself a carebear dude.
there are other thigns like scripts and stuff that could be put in but a 99% web is overpowered after the changes sorry it just it.
Originally by: Dapanman1
Terrible idea, you're an idiot
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Azuraito
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:10:00 -
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I lvl 4 mission in a kronos, i expect to hit no smaller than a BC (without web or wingman with web)
Activate rep, aggro everything, let drones take care of the small'ish stuff, hit the BS's for 1800++, time it takes to tractor wrecks, loot, salvage, etc, drones will be done.
Whats all the fuss about? 
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Hiding would be the way to go.
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Maeltstome
Minmatar
Suicidal Office Clerks
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Posted - 2008.07.30 17:53:00 -
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Everyone seems to be missing teh enire point of this thread: Bellum Eternus, Kronos pilot and pirate.
*CCP Gives back 99% webbing*
Us: "Oh look, the only PVP viable marauder is being flown by the op!"
Bellum: "PVE? Lol wut"
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The Djego
Minmatar
merovinger inc
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Posted - 2008.07.30 18:49:00 -
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Edited by: The Djego on 30/07/2008 18:53:35
Originally by: Maeltstome
Us: "Oh look, the only PVP viable marauder is being flown by the op!"
Oh realy: PVP Golem
Had a nice Rapier + 2 Megas against my Navy Mega on my save spot than I got hit by the Golem. Belive it or not, it did more damage as both Megas together with at least one TP from the Rapier + one from the Golem. Unlucky my gang mate didnŠt had a point so itŠs left and got killed another day.
Got some Fraps of it to, melted 8k Armor with quite good resitances(he used EM Torps) preaty quick before he got out.
Given the current changes it will be fare more dangerous than a PVP Kronos.
PS.: I have a PVE Kronos and i like the Web Bonus because it is not only about hitting Frigs but also about slowing down targets more quickly so you will hit mutch earlyier than with a 90% Web.
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Cyrgon Flyingmachine
Gallente
Dark Sun Collective
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Posted - 2008.08.01 01:46:00 -
[65]
90% won't cut it for catching the frigs and cruisers in missions which I am pretty sure was the point of having a 99% web.
If it wasn't then I wonder what the point was because that's what I have been using it for.
It would be interesting to see an official response to this, is it the devs opinion that the
post-patch web bonus is sufficient for what it's supposed to do?
I support this thread. o/
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.08.01 01:54:00 -
[66]
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: forum mematar
Originally by: MotherMoon
Lots of falling
It was a CHJOKE!!
If you check the links in my sig/check mematar ingame you should propably guess that I'm not a damned carebear
A.my sigs were not on
B. your name is forum member
C. you said those ships are PvE only, labeling yourself a carebear dude.
there are other thigns like scripts and stuff that could be put in but a 99% web is overpowered after the changes sorry it just it.
Memetar is most definitely not a carebear.  \o Mem. 
Bellum Eternus
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Lady Aja
Caldari
Blood Raider Domination
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Posted - 2008.08.01 21:24:00 -
[67]
does the paladins webbing effect apply to the heavy stasis drones?
if so. who needs a web?
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Jufi Wekior
Arachnid Logistics
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Posted - 2008.08.01 22:51:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Cyrgon Flyingmachine
90% won't cut it for catching the frigs and cruisers in missions which I am pretty sure was the point of having a 99% web.
If it wasn't then I wonder what the point was because that's what I have been using it for.
It would be interesting to see an official response to this, is it the devs opinion that the
post-patch web bonus is sufficient for what it's supposed to do?
I support this thread. o/
The point was that you would have 1 module doing practically the same as 2 without the bonus.
The current 10% per level on sisi has the same result. 1 webifier doing the same job as 2(a little more) from another ship.
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WillageGirl
Advanced Tactics and Maneuvers
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Posted - 2008.08.01 23:36:00 -
[69]
Originally by: MotherMoon
Edited by: MotherMoon on 29/07/2008 08:01:51
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Jufi Wekior
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Theron Gyrow
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Finally someone who understands the issue, although your math is wrong. When I fit a 60% web to my Paladin on SISI, it reads as a 90% speed reduction. I'm sure it's actually something like 89.9% or something similar, but it's roughly 90% and is displayed as such.
To the rest of you losers: the TQ Paladin with a 90% web currently has a webbing effect of 99%. This is used for webbing things like NPC frigs and such. A 90% web isn't sufficient. A 99% web is. This is how it was designed to work originally, and needs to be returned to that specification.
And no, simply adding tracking mods isn't acceptable and won't work regardless.
Let's do a comparison
TQ Paladin gets a 99% web which is about the same as 2 90% webs(-97.821%) on any other ship.
sisi Paladin gets 90% web which is more then 2 60% webs(-80.856%) on any other ship, it's closer to 3 webs(-87.4%) on any other ship.
PS. If it is 90% on sisi then it would appear the bonus has been boosted already from the original 2% per level to 10% per level.
Indeed, it's 10% per level. Needs to be bumped to around 12% or so to attain the orginal -99% speed modifier.
all ships are going slower you don't need that 99% web anymore. 90% is IMO overpowered allready.
just be happy with having such a powerful tool when everyone else has 60% webs.
They didnt nerf NPC ship speed (I had to go take a look) so how is this ship they gets its ability to hit NPC from its WEB able to do its job like before?
Everyone dont just PvP you know
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Princess 02
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Posted - 2008.08.01 23:40:00 -
[70]
99% web was good in the nano-era...
Will 99% web still be good in the nerfed nano-era? or Overpowered?
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WillageGirl
Advanced Tactics and Maneuvers
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Posted - 2008.08.01 23:55:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Jufi Wekior
Originally by: Cyrgon Flyingmachine
90% won't cut it for catching the frigs and cruisers in missions which I am pretty sure was the point of having a 99% web.
If it wasn't then I wonder what the point was because that's what I have been using it for.
It would be interesting to see an official response to this, is it the devs opinion that the
post-patch web bonus is sufficient for what it's supposed to do?
I support this thread. o/
The point was that you would have 1 module doing practically the same as 2 without the bonus.
The current 10% per level on sisi has the same result. 1 webifier doing the same job as 2(a little more) from another ship.
And the point of this thread is that the webbing effect Kronos has on SiSi now isnt enough to allow it to fill its intended role. (hittings fast NPC's at close range...)
Fighting for Our right to Cloak since 2004 |
Jufi Wekior
Arachnid Logistics
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Posted - 2008.08.02 09:15:00 -
[72]
Originally by: WillageGirl
Originally by: Jufi Wekior
Originally by: Cyrgon Flyingmachine
90% won't cut it for catching the frigs and cruisers in missions which I am pretty sure was the point of having a 99% web.
If it wasn't then I wonder what the point was because that's what I have been using it for.
It would be interesting to see an official response to this, is it the devs opinion that the
post-patch web bonus is sufficient for what it's supposed to do?
I support this thread. o/
The point was that you would have 1 module doing practically the same as 2 without the bonus.
The current 10% per level on sisi has the same result. 1 webifier doing the same job as 2(a little more) from another ship.
And the point of this thread is that the webbing effect Kronos has on SiSi now isnt enough to allow it to fill its intended role. (hittings fast NPC's at close range...)
Sure... Bellum will be using the Kronos for running missions... 
Plant a tree, grow a clue.
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OneSock
Crown Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.02 13:28:00 -
[73]
Originally by: MotherMoon
all ships are going slower you don't need that 99% web anymore.
Have CCP actually stated that NPC frigates/cruisers etc are also getting a speed reduction ? I've certainly not seen it.
In which case it's simple logic. Either the Kronos can hit a webbed frig/cruiser or it cannot. If it can't it either needs another boost to put web back where it should be, or the bonus needs to be changed.
Having a bonus to web effectiveness is pointless if you still can't hit shit for toffee.
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OneSock
Crown Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.02 13:35:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Jufi Wekior
Sure... Bellum will be using the Kronos for running missions...
Plant a tree, grow a clue.
Anyone mad enough to fly 750m+fitting battleship into PVP is welcome to 99% web IMO.
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Shadowsword
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.08.04 22:03:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Princess 02
99% web was good in the nano-era...
Will 99% web still be good in the nerfed nano-era? or Overpowered?
It won't be overpowered because it'll still be a very rare thing in pvp.
CNRs are better than standard battleships. Do you see the game being unbalanced by hordes of CNRs wtfpwning everything? Of course not. And Marauders are even less used in pvp than CNRs.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.08.05 07:10:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Jufi Wekior
Originally by: WillageGirl
Originally by: Jufi Wekior
Originally by: Cyrgon Flyingmachine
90% won't cut it for catching the frigs and cruisers in missions which I am pretty sure was the point of having a 99% web.
If it wasn't then I wonder what the point was because that's what I have been using it for.
It would be interesting to see an official response to this, is it the devs opinion that the
post-patch web bonus is sufficient for what it's supposed to do?
I support this thread. o/
The point was that you would have 1 module doing practically the same as 2 without the bonus.
The current 10% per level on sisi has the same result. 1 webifier doing the same job as 2(a little more) from another ship.
And the point of this thread is that the webbing effect Kronos has on SiSi now isnt enough to allow it to fill its intended role. (hittings fast NPC's at close range...)
Sure... Bellum will be using the Kronos for running missions...
Plant a tree, grow a clue.
Whuuut? I can't NPC?
Bellum Eternus
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Kakuremichi
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Posted - 2008.08.05 07:34:00 -
[77]
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: forum mematar
Originally by: MotherMoon
Lots of falling
It was a CHJOKE!!
If you check the links in my sig/check mematar ingame you should propably guess that I'm not a damned carebear
A.my sigs were not on
B. your name is forum member
C. you said those ships are PvE only, labeling yourself a carebear dude.
LOL mematar is definately not a carebear, at least not on his main .
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Zo5o
Gallente
Longcat is Long
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Posted - 2008.08.10 06:57:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Zo5o on 10/08/2008 07:02:24
Quote:
Why do TQ Marauders have a bonus not on web range, but on web efficicency? The answer is glaringly obvious, it's to be able to hit even small NPCs with their large guns. This is one of the perks of the class, one of it's defining points.
If that class end up with 90% webs, then that point has disappeared.
THIS.
Quote:
Have CCP actually stated that NPC frigates/cruisers etc are also getting a speed reduction ? I've certainly not seen it.
In which case it's simple logic. Either the Kronos can hit a webbed frig/cruiser or it cannot. If it can't it either needs another boost to put web back where it should be, or the bonus needs to be changed.
Having a bonus to web effectiveness is pointless if you still can't hit **** for toffee.
THIS TOO. 99% of pilots of these ships use them for PVE, and if the web bonus only results in 90% speed reduction, it is a completely useless bonus for PVE... a tracking comp or sensor booster would become a much more useful midslot module for pve fits in place of a web, and the web bonus would go unused. Either the bonus needs to be changed to result in 99% reduction, or the bonus needs to be changed to something people are actually going to use to justify the ship's extreme cost.
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Vladameir Harkenin
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:05:00 -
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Edited by: Vladameir Harkenin on 10/08/2008 14:12:41
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
1x 60% web gets the speed reduction to -90%. We need it back at -99% to web those frigs/cruisers during missions. Thanks in advance.
So let me get this right, you have a 90% web and you want more, are you kidding me, I don't care if your large guns can't hit smaller targets, you have a drone bay, use it. I didn't even need a webber using my raven in missions, use your drones, they work great at killing smaller targets.
Alot of people in this game use slightly over 100mil isk battleships without webbers and have no problems with lvl 4 missions and you can't figure out how in a 750mil isk ship that is designed purely for running missions, no wonder we have nerfs in this game, people like this trying to pvp when they can't even run a simple lvl 4 mission.
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Ihrda Siharkhail
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:20:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Ihrda Siharkhail on 10/08/2008 14:21:13
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
1x 60% web gets the speed reduction to -90%. We need it back at -99% to web those frigs/cruisers during missions. Thanks in advance.
its still got a better web then the other marauders, so..tears, please put them in my bucket
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Sorien Marutor
Biotronics Inc.
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.08.10 15:51:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Sorien Marutor on 10/08/2008 15:55:55
Originally by: Vladameir Harkenin
Edited by: Vladameir Harkenin on 10/08/2008 14:12:41
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
1x 60% web gets the speed reduction to -90%. We need it back at -99% to web those frigs/cruisers during missions. Thanks in advance.
So let me get this right, you have a 90% web and you want more, are you kidding me, I don't care if your large guns can't hit smaller targets, you have a drone bay, use it. I didn't even need a webber using my raven in missions, use your drones, they work great at killing smaller targets.
Alot of people in this game use slightly over 100mil isk battleships without webbers and have no problems with lvl 4 missions and you can't figure out how in a 750mil isk ship that is designed purely for running missions, no wonder we have nerfs in this game, people like this trying to pvp when they can't even run a simple lvl 4 mission.
A 90% web is useless. Its not just "bad" - no its USELESS! (where useless means there is no difference whether you have one or not) There is no "want more" when you don't have anything yet! It's just "want something cause we have nothing usable".
I'd rather fit a 3rd or 4th Tracking Computer insteat of a 90% webifier. Don't forget most NPC vessels have a "mass". It's not "Turn 90% web on and he's at 5 m/s". It is "Turn the 90% web on and wait for 30 seconds per enemy to slow down enough to hit him".
And let's be honest. If it slows down enough to hit it's at 2-3 km distance where your tracking again doesn't hit him.
Oh sorry i forgot, you are one of the plenty raven noobs without tracking issues - and no need for webifiers also.
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Lopin Acheteur
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.08.10 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Pretty much every post here saying that the current bonuses are 'good enough' are all concerned with PVP. Everyone knows that no one ever PVPs in Marauders. They're only for mission running, hence their arguement that it's 'overpowered' is absurd.
See the thing is, no one today uses a maurader where they could use 2 webs on another ship, because that single extra slot is not that valuable compared to the advantage. I sure as hell WILL use a Kronos in PvP if it is the only ship capable of giving a 99% web with 1 slot, while the best any other ship can do with 3 slots is 93.6%. Hell even with 90% with one slot vs 84% with a rapier using 2 slots, I will be strongly thinking about using a maurader in PvP post patch (99% web with two webs !, no other ship can do that even with 5 webs !)
If it makes them not as good at missioning, maybe it's the rats that need slowing down ;)
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.08.11 02:10:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Lopin Acheteur
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Pretty much every post here saying that the current bonuses are 'good enough' are all concerned with PVP. Everyone knows that no one ever PVPs in Marauders. They're only for mission running, hence their arguement that it's 'overpowered' is absurd.
See the thing is, no one today uses a maurader where they could use 2 webs on another ship, because that single extra slot is not that valuable compared to the advantage. I sure as hell WILL use a Kronos in PvP if it is the only ship capable of giving a 99% web with 1 slot, while the best any other ship can do with 3 slots is 93.6%. Hell even with 90% with one slot vs 84% with a rapier using 2 slots, I will be strongly thinking about using a maurader in PvP post patch (99% web with two webs !, no other ship can do that even with 5 webs !)
If it makes them not as good at missioning, maybe it's the rats that need slowing down ;)
If you intend on PVPing witha Kronos or Paladin with two webs fit post patch, I'm adding you to my contact list and firing up my locator agents.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr
Avenging United
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Posted - 2008.08.11 02:17:00 -
[84]
Originally by: WillageGirl
Originally by: Jufi Wekior
Originally by: Cyrgon Flyingmachine
90% won't cut it for catching the frigs and cruisers in missions which I am pretty sure was the point of having a 99% web.
If it wasn't then I wonder what the point was because that's what I have been using it for.
It would be interesting to see an official response to this, is it the devs opinion that the
post-patch web bonus is sufficient for what it's supposed to do?
I support this thread. o/
The point was that you would have 1 module doing practically the same as 2 without the bonus.
The current 10% per level on sisi has the same result. 1 webifier doing the same job as 2(a little more) from another ship.
And the point of this thread is that the webbing effect Kronos has on SiSi now isnt enough to allow it to fill its intended role. (hittings fast NPC's at close range...)
Have you ever tried using a Large-class weapon to shoot at a drone or frigate?
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Vladameir Harkenin
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Posted - 2008.08.11 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: Sorien Marutor
A 90% web is useless. Its not just "bad" - no its USELESS! (where useless means there is no difference whether you have one or not) There is no "want more" when you don't have anything yet! It's just "want something cause we have nothing usable".
I'd rather fit a 3rd or 4th Tracking Computer insteat of a 90% webifier. Don't forget most NPC vessels have a "mass". It's not "Turn 90% web on and he's at 5 m/s". It is "Turn the 90% web on and wait for 30 seconds per enemy to slow down enough to hit him".
And let's be honest. If it slows down enough to hit it's at 2-3 km distance where your tracking again doesn't hit him.
Oh sorry i forgot, you are one of the plenty raven noobs without tracking issues - and no need for webifiers also.
Last I checked all maruaders have a decent size drone bay, I have no problem running a lvl 4 mission with a domi or a raven, no I don't shoot little ships with missiles, waste of ammo, I let the drones kill them while I kill things I can hit (cruisers, bcs and bs's) and that web will help your drones.
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Alkeena
Gallente
Unitas Nusquam Est
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.08.11 02:38:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Vladameir Harkenin
Originally by: Sorien Marutor
A 90% web is useless. Its not just "bad" - no its USELESS! (where useless means there is no difference whether you have one or not) There is no "want more" when you don't have anything yet! It's just "want something cause we have nothing usable".
I'd rather fit a 3rd or 4th Tracking Computer insteat of a 90% webifier. Don't forget most NPC vessels have a "mass". It's not "Turn 90% web on and he's at 5 m/s". It is "Turn the 90% web on and wait for 30 seconds per enemy to slow down enough to hit him".
And let's be honest. If it slows down enough to hit it's at 2-3 km distance where your tracking again doesn't hit him.
Oh sorry i forgot, you are one of the plenty raven noobs without tracking issues - and no need for webifiers also.
Last I checked all maruaders have a decent size drone bay, I have no problem running a lvl 4 mission with a domi or a raven, no I don't shoot little ships with missiles, waste of ammo, I let the drones kill them while I kill things I can hit (cruisers, bcs and bs's) and that web will help your drones.
It is the Marauder's role to obliterate smaller ships--it says exactly that in the Kronos ship description. Why should it many times more than a standard BS but still have the same capability as a standard BS when it comes to its designated role as a small ship killer? The golem has no such issues with it's target painting bonus, which btw is an instant effect with few practical range restrictions while, as Sorein pointed out, a web takes time to do its work and has very severe [relative] range issues.
Marauder's with web bonuses were just nerfed hard relative to the golem--it was already in question as to why you would bother with them in the face of the golem's clear missioning superiority. Now it's just a foregone conclusion. Kronos as presented is damn near worthless to 99% of it's user base now--certainly not worth the price tag; and I say that having just built 4 for sale :-\
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Jim Hazard
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Posted - 2008.08.11 04:45:00 -
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ItŠs not the web bonus which needs to be fixed it is the whole ship class which needs to be fixed.
I like to fly my paladin (not on missions though), but its barely better than any t1 BS and costs a lot more. If I compare it to a ship like the abaddon this is my conclusion.
Pro Paladin:
- Does not lose firepower for fitting salvagers tractor beams (only matters for PvE)
- has more cargo space to carry loot or cap booster charges
- Active tank is stronger (mostly just matters for PvE) as well
- Uses less cap to deal the same amount of damage.
- does not lose firepower to fit remote reps
cons:
- Price
- worse buffer tank (thx to less rig slots)
- easy to jam (unless you fit 2 eccms = 42 radar strength) ->
- can either only fit a scrambler or web (only matters for PvP of course)
The advantages are very little while whe disadvantages compared to t1 Battleships are very big (at least for PvP). And even though the paladin is not really an option for pvp its the only marauder which is really usable for that as the Kronos, Vargur and Golem are even worse.
So I would rather vote for marauders being completely changed or if ccp only wants them to be PvE ships, it would be nice if we would get a real nice PvP T2 BS, which fills the same role as a T1 BS, but is inline with other T2 variations of other Ship classes.
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Posted - 2008.08.11 06:41:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Jim Hazard
- can either only fit a scrambler or web (only matters for PvP of course)
Whats this nerf?
Haven't heard of this 
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The Djego
Minmatar
merovinger inc
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Posted - 2008.08.11 09:48:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Vladameir Harkenin
Originally by: Sorien Marutor
A 90% web is useless. Its not just "bad" - no its USELESS! (where useless means there is no difference whether you have one or not) There is no "want more" when you don't have anything yet! It's just "want something cause we have nothing usable".
I'd rather fit a 3rd or 4th Tracking Computer insteat of a 90% webifier. Don't forget most NPC vessels have a "mass". It's not "Turn 90% web on and he's at 5 m/s". It is "Turn the 90% web on and wait for 30 seconds per enemy to slow down enough to hit him".
And let's be honest. If it slows down enough to hit it's at 2-3 km distance where your tracking again doesn't hit him.
Oh sorry i forgot, you are one of the plenty raven noobs without tracking issues - and no need for webifiers also.
Last I checked all maruaders have a decent size drone bay, I have no problem running a lvl 4 mission with a domi or a raven, no I don't shoot little ships with missiles, waste of ammo, I let the drones kill them while I kill things I can hit (cruisers, bcs and bs's) and that web will help your drones.
Highlited the point where you started to fail.
Paladin and Kronos are dedicated Turret ships, you have 2 Options, fit a AB and kitte the NPCs to hit them or fit a Web so you donŠt have to move all over the place. The Web Bonus is in place to help the ships out dooing the 2. thing. Without the Bonus it takes fare longer to reduce speed to a acceptalbe level to hit and do damage, also you loose fare more Damage vs fast and agile Elite Cruisers(you hit them but not very mutch). Also its quite cool you donŠt have to kill every smaller ship with Drones(note the Kronos got only 75mŠ Bandwith).
Also keep in Mind that using Turrets needs fare more Mods.
2x Tracking Comps are recomered in any case, AB/Web is a must have, or 50-80% of your Damage is removed by Tracking/Range issus.
I use on the Kronos 3 Sentrys 90% of the time because of the Web Bonus the Sentrys even hit close. Also i donŠt switch to Medium T2, for Frigs, I web them, kill a more distant target and than the Frig, because it takes time to slow them down(about 30 Seconds) and is simply a wast of Amno if the are not under 10 m/s.
Turret Ships have lots of drawbacks against Missle Ships, the web Bonus helps them out to still do deacend Damage close Range. I personaly use the Kronos because the Domi got a bit boring and i got over 12 M SP in Gunnery. I like the Ship and the little extras it provides.
There is absolutly no reason to nerf the Web Bonus, if you want to pvp with them, shure go ahead, Sentry aggro, 5 small ECM Drones, impressive Killmail. Also what Maroder is the best in PVE? Awnser is Golem, now quite supricing the awnser is exactly the same in PVP now, with the reduced speeds and webs it gets only more silly how Overpowered the Golem is(extrem Damage, good short Range, extrem Tank, no Tracking Issues, capless Weapons, selectalbe Damagetyp, less cap intesive Tank that can be pimped to outtank multiple BS easy, split of Tank/Damagemods in Low/Med Slots, Painterbonus, etc).
Noted I donŠt wasted any line on the Mini Maroder? This was for a reason that it was designed with omg this is so overpowert in PVP in mind that itŠs pre nerft and canŠt even fill his dedicated role.
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Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus
Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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Blancanieves
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
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Obviously this thread needs to be about the question wether mission NPC speeds will be adjusted accordingly, not about boosting the Marauders' web bonus.
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