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Terraform
Gallente
Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2008.07.30 13:58:00 -
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The new changes has brought back life to AFs. I can now effectively orbit under the guns of most cruiser, bcs and BSs using an AB. Using an AB eliminates most cap problems i have, even when being neuted i usually have enough cap to keep going if i use a highslot for a nos.
Anyone done anymore testing of AFs on SiSi?
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Kano Sekor
Amarr
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:03:00 -
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i assume this is under web? and how is the dps isnt it to tiny to take down BC:s in?
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Terraform
Gallente
Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:05:00 -
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it is too tiny, my AF normally only do around 200 dps. But my speed is around 450-600 m/s WHILE webbed when using an AB. I'm quite pleased about this change as it actually gives 2-3 AFs the chance to take down BCs or even BS's if they get lucky to run into a bad tanked BS.
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Snow Banshee
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:06:00 -
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pls be a bit more specific :
1) what AF you are using
2) your orbit distance
3) your orbit velocity
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:08:00 -
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Anything else than an ishkur is crap anyhow, jaguar may be alright aswell.
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Wil Smithx
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Kano Sekor
i assume this is under web? and how is the dps isnt it to tiny to take down BC:s in?
Prob depend on relative ships...
No af will take down a drake or myrm unless the pilot of the BC is an idiot, harb and cane sport weaker armour tanks and may die to a high dps ship like the ishkur.
Though thats talking in tanking terms for the BC, it would be a damned hostile enviroment to pilot an AF in TBH
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Denuo Secus
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Denuo Secus on 30/07/2008 14:13:01
Originally by: Tassi
Anything else than an ishkur is crap anyhow, jaguar may be alright aswell.
Why? Some other ASs do also approx 200DPS...
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:15:00 -
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I'm looking forward to using my taranis, assault ship, to do exactly that. Pew pew pew!
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Yaro
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: Yaro on 30/07/2008 14:15:57
wait till you meet cruise missile raven with precision t2 missiles and neutralizers + drones :) you will die in few seconds, or other missile or drone bazed BC/BS/Hac.
Af are useless anyway
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Dr Sheepbringer
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:22:00 -
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Wait unitill you meet this, wait untill you meet that. There is always that killer. I personally like AS and now that they are getting a boost, even more. It doesn't matter what you fly. You will always get into the poo one way or another.
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Yaro
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer
Wait unitill you meet this, wait untill you meet that. There is always that killer. I personally like AS and now that they are getting a boost, even more. It doesn't matter what you fly. You will always get into the poo one way or another.
AF arent getting a boost, its other ships get nerfed !
But anyway, AF were useless before that stupid patch and they will be useless against anything with neutralisers and drones.
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Bufo8o2
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:29:00 -
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A blaster harpy can go over 250dps and still keep a decent tank and afterburner, it can even get near 300dps with a damage rig. Assault frigs can't be that useless especially if they're getting boosted with the patch.
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MenanceWhite
Amarr
Red Light Navy
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:33:00 -
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Wow it's not as if they were'nt able to do this before. All they've been given is a slight base max speed bonus. It's true that their mass got reduced alot, but did'nt their inertia modifier also get increased?
They're usefull as heavy tacklers and as damage dealers in frig gangs. As for whatever else- well they're able to solokill cruisers now by scram+orbit under turrets, but it's not as if normal frigs has'nt been able to do that before.
I mean, look up your basic bleed punisher fitting - people has been able to solo stupid brutix and feroxes in those. AFs can do the same now, just abit faster thanks to higher DPS.
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Yaro
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:36:00 -
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Edited by: Yaro on 30/07/2008 14:37:22
Originally by: Bufo8o2
A blaster harpy can go over 250dps and still keep a decent tank and afterburner, it can even get near 300dps with a damage rig. Assault frigs can't be that useless especially if they're getting boosted with the patch.
Dear Bufobo2,
First of all its other ships getting nerfed. And if you dont believe me, that AF cannot tank, take a corp m8 with a hac, BC, BS equiped with neutralisers, missiles and drones and see how long will you last. Just make sure you do this on Sisi and your copr m8 is capable to pilot a ship.
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Yaro
Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer
Wait unitill you meet this, wait untill you meet that. There is always that killer. I personally like AS and now that they are getting a boost, even more. It doesn't matter what you fly. You will always get into the poo one way or another.
AF arent getting a boost, its other ships get nerfed !
But anyway, AF were useless before that stupid patch and they will be useless against anything with neutralisers and drones.
One of the first things I would do in my blaster harpy tackling larger targets, was to web and point the big ship - but fire my guns on its drones - before turning them onto the tackled ship. I also carried a small NOS (cycles faster than large neuts).
By yourself, against a competant BC/BS pilot - yep you'd die, or lose the tackle when you get neuted hard - but its a small cheaper ship - bring a freind or two and you ought to win.
The changes seem to be giving the AF a tackling ability that lets it exceed a cruiser in some respects.
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Pax Empyrean
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:38:00 -
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Quote:
AF arent getting a boost, its other ships get nerfed !
No, that's just wrong. Assault Frigates are getting their mass reduced by almost half. Direct buff.
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ZW Dewitt
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:39:00 -
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Wow... I've been doing this in rifters for years now.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:45:00 -
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I had some fun in a Hawk  on Sisi, fit as a heavy tackler with AB and scrambler. It's still a bit slow (800 m/s), but it had some nice features:
Fifth highslot for a small nos to keep tackle/AB running.
Rockets to slaughter light drones.
No longer gimped for PG/CPU, since MWD is no longer essential.
No longer gimped for midslots, since scrambler is effectively webber and disruptor.
Nice tank - I had MSE buffer and a small booster, which could almost permarun with the nos working and no neuts on me.
I tackled and beat a Vaga in it, then got casually wasted by an Ishtar's neuts and drones.
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Transmaniacon
Minmatar
Strike-Force-Alpha
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:50:00 -
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Im looking forward to the new assault ships, as they will be good in a small 3-5 man gangs, and have the ability to handle larger targets without getting fried (except for missiles...grumbles...) Nonetheless I think its a good change for them I and expect to see a lot more Jaguars/Wolfs on the field.
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Terraform
Gallente
Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:51:00 -
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Edited by: Terraform on 30/07/2008 14:51:08
my point isn't "hey, the AFs rule now!" it's more like "wow, an AF can actually kill other things than frigs and badly piloted cruisers now".
I'm aware that the AFs range of targeted ships is small, but atleast they can do SOMETHING now instead of being eyecandy that explodes in bright colors.
edited for better reading
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Elhina Novae
Amarr
Destruction Reborn
CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.07.30 15:48:00 -
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Small ships coming back to life?
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Out of Order
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Elhina Novae
Small ships coming back to life?
SOME coming back to life, others being put into a coffin.
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Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2008.07.30 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 30/07/2008 16:22:21
Originally by: Yaro
Edited by: Yaro on 30/07/2008 14:15:57
wait till you meet cruise missile raven with precision t2 missiles and neutralizers + drones :) you will die in few seconds, or other missile or drone bazed BC/BS/Hac.
Af are useless anyway
if you had followed this topic in the forum carefully you would know that ccp will also balance missiles to be inline with the changes ;P OH NOES your dreambubble collapse! your drones die fast to a 200+ dps frigate and you can counter a neut easily.
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Terraform
Gallente
Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2008.07.30 16:42:00 -
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Well, i don't care what people think about AFs, i'm looking forward to finally seeing them back in action. roaming gangs full of inties and AFs could prove fairly challenging to take down now, instead of the usual neuts+webs=dead frig always. |
Impolite Andevil
The Shadow Knights
Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.30 16:49:00 -
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I predict that this may also lead to a minor resurgence in smartbombs being fitted to battleships.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.30 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Impolite Andevil
I predict that this may also lead to a minor resurgence in smartbombs being fitted to battleships.
Yup, SBs will be come more important as will neuts. This means ships with utility high slots will get a boost. Ofcourse minmatar conveniently forget that because they are too busy whining about every ship they have.
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Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2008.07.30 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Impolite Andevil
I predict that this may also lead to a minor resurgence in smartbombs being fitted to battleships.
like smartbombs dmg would be enough to take down an assault frig
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.30 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Cosmic
Originally by: Impolite Andevil
I predict that this may also lead to a minor resurgence in smartbombs being fitted to battleships.
like smartbombs dmg would be enough to take down an assault frig
Yeah but its not as easy to kill drones now with web nerf. So yeah SBs are useful.
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Amandin Adouin
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Posted - 2008.07.30 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Impolite Andevil
I predict that this may also lead to a minor resurgence in smartbombs being fitted to battleships.
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"Remember people, do not fear the evil that surrounds you. Do not avoid the hounds of hell. Do not avoid the beasts of brimstone. Do not avoid the puppies of purgatory..." 
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Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2008.07.30 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 30/07/2008 17:00:39
hmm oke thats true but drones dps is not that significant except on some boats with dmg bonus, I would always take a remote rep on my bs for my gang over a smarty.
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