So, to be clear, I now have to ask people if they've tried to initiate warp before I tackle/web them?

It's not an exploit. Ships are engaged/webbed/bumped after undocking thousands of times a day. It's been around for years and it's happened to all of us at one point or another either from faction police or in PVP itself. It's been petitioned in the past with none other than a standard "working as intended" reply so what's the hurf-blurf about now?

It is pathetic for you to pretend and come out with such strong a statement like this is something you didn't know about already. And it's even more sad that it took the cries of a thousand carebears and casual power-bloc players for you to say you're going to do something about it.

Your argument is invalid by the fact that a web is a web, not a scrambler. No. Don't. No. It's a webb. Not a disrupt.

Your argument is invalid by the fact that a web is a web, not a scrambler. No. Don't. No. It's a webb. Not a disrupt.

let me explain the vast number of similarities between this exploit and webbing a JF so it can enter warp faster:

they both involve webbing a freighter

How do you figure out if that thing you're webbing has initiated warp or not? It pops out, starts turning and you web it.

Is it only freighters that encounter this odd problem of being stuck in wierd-warp if they're webbed?

I was trying to warp earlier with no scrambling module on me (in fact I was in a Skiff-class with a warp strength bonus), but I could not. The lovely Aura kept saying "the capacitor is empty", "the capacitor is empty", "the capacitor is empty". My research showed that an" Energy Neutralizer" module (not a warp scrambler module!) was used on me to prevent warping. This is obviously a bug.
Then the criminal flew his stabber-class into my barge, breaking my alignment to the nearby station. Warp disruption via collision (and not a warp scrambler module) sounds weird as well, because only modules should prevent warping.

I don't care if it's an exploit, but there definitely is a bug within the warping-mechanic.

I always get hunted by the Navy.

I initiate warp, a bit late.
Navy locks me.
I'm aligned.
Navy webs me.
Navy starts shooting.
MessageBox appears that i get scrambled.
Navy shoots half my armor down.
I warp off.

This ain't right.


So often i get a yellowbox and warp off half a second later ... it's a miracle.
Okay, that could be a player-issue, because they fail to activate their point at the right time,
but it happens way too often to me that there something isn't fishy.


Another example that there's something wrong:

I undock in a thrasher.
I immediately initiate warp, but to a wrong bookmark, so i have to realign quite a bit.
I get locked up by several people.
Some guys are redboxed for a second at least.
I get shot at.
I warp off.

When this happened, it felt totally wrong.
Usually, i would have popped.


There are other examples of players locking me,
but it seems that i initiated warp just at the right moment
that they had no chance pinning me down, although they're redboxed already
hence i very likely got pointed/scrambled.


This can't be right ...

This is essentially fixed in the version currently on SiSi. You don't get in the "warping" state until you actually enter warp. Thus you can allways cancel warp as well.

You can still prevent people from warping by using a web though, but they'll be able to cancel warp and dock at any time. If they are pointed after they've been webbed they'll also be pointed properly now, and their warp is immediatly canceled. Appart from supers being very easy to free now, and I'm sure a few more bugs/exploits yet to be found, they've changed the mechanics that would render ships helpless as a result of webs, bumps or speed when you enter warp.

only modules should prevent warping.