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Mr Blue
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:06:00 -
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exploit notification from lead gm grimmi
reported by CCP Navigator | 2012.03.20 12:39:27 | NEW
It has come to our attention that some players are making use of a broken game mechanic involving web modules preventing people from warping, for the purpose of killing them. This is a clear exploit and anyone found abusing this will be dealt with accordingly. Exploiting may result in a permanent suspension from the game. Our Game Design team will be working to deploy a fix for this issue in the near future.
Dear CCP, this game mechanic have existed for years. the first supercarriers was killed in low sec due to bumping (so they couldnt warp)
Also faction police kill countless pirats everyday due to this "exploid" , try undocking from a high sec station as a outlaw, then warp to a gate thats not a insta undock and you will prob notice.
So dear ccp, are faction police exploiting? should you guys ban faction police? |

Messoroz
AQUILA INC 0ccupational Hazzard
157
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:06:00 -
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Somebody is mad they can't kill JFs because nobody will fight their super blob. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:08:00 -
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I'm confused...
I cannot see any use of a web that could be outside of its normal usage. Well, maybe webbing stations to make pretty effects that are kind of trippy...
Also, web modules by themselves do not prevent people from warping. Its the bumping. And that can be done without a web almost as easily as with one.
Oh... and what the OP said about Faction police is important, because other folks around the undock love to bump outlaws and low faction standing folks to keep them from warping. |

Mr Blue
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:08:00 -
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all you gotto do as a Jumpfreighter pilot is to align before you click warp ...its not really magic. Tho :effort:? |

Andski
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:13:00 -
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there is a huge, huge difference between webbing a JF entering warp and bumping supercaps "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Mr Blue
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:15:00 -
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Andski wrote:there is a huge, huge difference between webbing a JF entering warp and bumping supercaps your webbing your freighter everyday to make it insta warp...isnt that a exploit? or cloak mwd trick? your using the very the same mechanics, besides that the target isnt aligned when you apply webs. |

Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:16:00 -
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Is this about what was reported here?
http://www.evenews24.com/2012/03/19/garmonation-exploits/ |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
613
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:17:00 -
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Edit: post above solves confusion |

masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:19:00 -
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Mr Blue wrote:Andski wrote:there is a huge, huge difference between webbing a JF entering warp and bumping supercaps your webbing your freighter everyday to make it insta warp...isnt that a exploit? or cloak mwd trick? your using the very the same mechanics, besides that the target isnt aligned when you apply webs.
I agree. MWD cloak trick and webbing freighters to speed their warp entry should also be exploits. Its called fairness. Carebears are such hippocrites. |

bitters much
Nekkid Inc. Higginbotham and Bailey's Circus
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:19:00 -
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Andski wrote:there is a huge, huge difference between webbing a JF entering warp and bumping supercaps
WTS:
246450 x Morphite 2995634 x Megacyte

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5702
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:20:00 -
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Where's the confusion?
If people are managing to use a webber (a module that in no way inhibits warping) in a way that makes it inhibit warping, then that is indeed the module not working as intended GÇö a bug GÇö and making use of such a bug is pretty much the most basic and fundamental definition of an GÇ£exploitGÇ¥. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |

Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
105
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:21:00 -
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I have lost multiple ships due to not being able to cancel warp in hisec due to super strong npc police webs. as this mechanic has now been deemed faulty, it seems that the time to petition all of those losses is at hand finally. The Order of the Falcon or Hin +¡slenska f+ílkaor+¦a is a national Order of Iceland |

Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:21:00 -
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The only reason I can see why it can be classed as an exploit is because webs were not designed to stop you from being able to warp
Also I believe you can not cancel warp until your JF has slowed to the correct speed after the webs have been calculated.. so something like 6 m/s |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
613
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:22:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Where's the confusion?
If people are managing to use a webber (a module that in no way inhibits warping) in a way that makes it inhibit warping, then that is indeed the module not working as intended GÇö a bug GÇö and making use of such a bug is pretty much the most basic and fundamental definition of an GÇ£exploitGÇ¥. The confusion was, some of us (me) didn't know what the actual issue was.
And from the report, it does seem to be a bug and CCP should fix it. |

Honeyhole
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:23:00 -
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It's not an exploit. Ships are engaged/webbed/bumped after undocking thousands of times a day. It's been around for years and it's happened to all of us at one point or another either from faction police or in PVP itself. It's been petitioned in the past with none other than a standard "working as intended" reply so what's the hurf-blurf about now?
It is pathetic for you to pretend and come out with such strong statement like this is something you didn't know about already. And it's even more sad that it took the cries of a thousand carebears and casual power-bloc players for you to do it. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5702
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:26:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:The confusion was, some of us (me) didn't know what the actual issue was. It was more directed at the OP, tbh GÇö the thread exploded while I was reading other queued up topics and wrote the answer. 
I thought it was pretty clear from the quoted GM response, though: like I said, a module that doesn't keep ships from warping but which suddenly does keep ship from warping is obviously bugged. Exploiting bugs is exploiting (durrGǪ). Very little in the way of additional details is needed. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |

Andski
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:28:00 -
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bitters much wrote:Andski wrote:there is a huge, huge difference between webbing a JF entering warp and bumping supercaps WTS: 246450 x Morphite 2995634 x Megacyte 
WTS:
god knows how much technetium "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Dror Roidcrusher
Balls of Megacyte
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:31:00 -
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Tippia wrote:a module that doesn't keep ships from warping but which suddenly does keep ship from warping is obviously bugged. I was trying to warp earlier with no scrambling module on me (in fact I was in a Skiff-class with a warp strength bonus), but I could not. The lovely Aura kept saying "the capacitor is empty", "the capacitor is empty", "the capacitor is empty". My research showed that an" Energy Neutralizer" module (not a warp scrambler module!) was used on me to prevent warping. This is obviously a bug. |

bitters much
Nekkid Inc. Higginbotham and Bailey's Circus
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:31:00 -
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Andski wrote:bitters much wrote:Andski wrote:there is a huge, huge difference between webbing a JF entering warp and bumping supercaps WTS: 246450 x Morphite 2995634 x Megacyte  WTS: god knows how much technetium
For that you need to bring it to the market in your freighters 1st 
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5702
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:32:00 -
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Dror Roidcrusher wrote:I was trying to warp earlier with no scrambling module on me (in fact I was in a Skiff-class with a warp strength bonus), but I could not. The lovely Aura kept saying "the capacitor is empty", "the capacitor is empty", "the capacitor is empty". My research showed that an" Energy Neutralizer" module (not a warp scrambler module!) was used on me to prevent warping. Yes? AndGǪ? That's what neuts do GÇö nothing strange or bugged about it.
And no, the neut did not prevent you from warping GÇö your lack of cap energy did. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Andski
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:34:00 -
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bitters much wrote:For that you need to bring it to the market in your freighters 1st 
ahaha you think freighters are used to haul tech
scrub "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Dror Roidcrusher
Balls of Megacyte
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:34:00 -
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Tippia wrote:And no, the neut did not prevent you from warping GÇö your lack of cap energy did. No, if they can use the module in a way that inhibits warping, it must be a bug |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5702
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:36:00 -
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Dror Roidcrusher wrote:Tippia wrote:And no, the neut did not prevent you from warping GÇö your lack of cap energy did. No, if they can use the module in a way that inhibits warping, it must be a bug Good thing, then, that nothing of the sort happened in your example, so there was no bug. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |

Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
105
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:39:00 -
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How does one petition a loss from 493 and 528 days ago? These losses do not show up under the 'reimbursement' drop-down menu, but were caused by this mechanic now deemed faulty. The Order of the Falcon or Hin +¡slenska f+ílkaor+¦a is a national Order of Iceland |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
603
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:49:00 -
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Shouldn't have went after that goon jump freighter guys. Now look what you did!
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Andski
GoonWaffe
3243
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:58:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Shouldn't have went after that goon jump freighter guys. Now look what you did!
deemed an exploit less than an hour later
sup br0s "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
365
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:59:00 -
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Yay, docking games. Isn't it about time CCP to not have blind session changes? It's so 1994. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
613
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:59:00 -
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Andski wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Shouldn't have went after that goon jump freighter guys. Now look what you did! deemed an exploit less than an hour later sup br0s This'll do wonders for the conspiracy nuts. |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
294
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Posted - 2012.03.20 16:07:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Where's the confusion?
If people are managing to use a webber (a module that in no way inhibits warping) in a way that makes it inhibit warping, then that is indeed the module not working as intended GÇö a bug GÇö and making use of such a bug is pretty much the most basic and fundamental definition of an GÇ£exploitGÇ¥.
Which goes to show that what some of my mates call "***-warping" is not an exploit, as it uses no bugs...
...So those whiners ITT can just sit the **** down and shut the **** up!
In irae, veritas. |

Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
1097
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Posted - 2012.03.20 16:08:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Where's the confusion?
If people are managing to use a webber (a module that in no way inhibits warping) in a way that makes it inhibit warping, then that is indeed the module not working as intended GÇö a bug GÇö and making use of such a bug is pretty much the most basic and fundamental definition of an GÇ£exploitGÇ¥.
It is not a bug, and it is not an exploit. The GM simply did not understand game mechanics well enough to comment.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://vimeo.com/user9887127 Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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