That is how I interpreted it.

Current plan is that the bonus you get for killing someone is halved for every time you've previously killed that person in the last 28 days, with the "halved" subject to further balancing. That should prevent at least the most obvious exploit cases.

Hear that? That's the sound of neutral RR alts being sold in a few months.


Wait...so I can shoot someone without being concorded now? But can flipping carries the same penalty as actually firing on someone? I don't know whether to laugh maniacally or cry.

edit: This is going to have a chilling effect on everyone but the can flippers who are out looking for a fight. Also, this is going to encourage the use of NPC corp alts, when that behavior should be discouraged.


Terrible. Keep Concord but buff them to prevent long-term evasion. They're a great part of the RP lore and getting rid of them just so the developers can be lazy is sad.


This makes me happy.

Hey greyscale, anything on Bountyhunting and maybe transferable killrights?

These safeties i took to mean pop-ups like we get now for jumping into lowsec the first time or stealing from someones can; they can turned off and reset as we feel.

If that's the case then great but please make them able to be turned off, unlike the the current 'you are engaged in combat' box when trying to undock.

Give us the choice to have them or not, and while in that code area, add that functionality for the 'you are engagted in combat' box. It's a strange choice to make the pvp experiance worse in a sandbox, pvp orientated game.


If safeties aren't that and i got it totally wrong ignore the above, here's a video about a duck:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtN1YnoL46Q

What about killing newly created alts characters? Might need a limiter on killed char age also.


p.s. What's happening with delayed local?

*sigh*

I don't get it. So if I want to gank a freighter in high sec I can just find one and attack and kill it and I won't get hit by concord until it's dead? Is that correct?

Did I miss anything important?



Sec Status
- Kill someone while a suspect will only take you to -5
- Pod killing will take you below -5 to -10
- Killing someone with positive +5 gives you hit
- Killing someone with a negative sec gives you bonus
- Hand in tags for sec boost up to +5. Less effect if you are -5.
- Fixing rat spawns after downtime.
- -5 can be killed without penalty in low sec.
- Something about -5 in high sec being pursued.

If i am reading this correctly. One ship kill in high sec will take you to -5, one pod kill will take you to -5 to -10?

What is meant by "officer/commander" tags? Is it only the named officers like Estamel, Gotan, and Thon or do you get some positive bumper for navy or pirate tags? What are we talking about here... will I be able to buy my way out of a -10?

Those are the lowest sec values those crimes can get you to, not the value you go to on the first crime



Officers are Estamel, Thon et al. Commanders are Dread Guristas, Dark Bloods, True Sanshas etc. Yes, you'll be able to buy your way up, but we'll probably balance it so that it's gonna cost you

Safeties are something you have to explicitly set to "off" *before* you can engage in any illegal activities. If your safeties are on, you can't do illegal stuff, and it'll likely just give you an error saying "hey, your safeties are on, go turn them off". (Explicitly *not* giving you "yet another warning box that people mindlessly click "yes" on because we show so many of them that a lot of people don't just read them).

The flipside should be that, if you're going out ganking, you can turn them off the second you undock and not think about them again.

Current plan is that the bonus you get for killing someone is halved for every time you've previously killed that person in the last 28 days, with the "halved" subject to further balancing. That should prevent at least the most obvious exploit cases.

Need a time delay in there as well, such as 15-30 minutes between possible reward.

I don't think time is a big factor. We've proven we have time.

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Can-flipping as-is will be impossible once the safeties are added. People should be able to choose to do dumb things, but they should also have the information they need to figure out that the thing they're doing is dumb.

Duelling we're planning to support with an explicit mechanic rather than the current hacky workaround.

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Thank you for confirming what I have long suspected.

-3 accounts soonish I'm thinking, this is a complete ******* farce, even by the standards of CCP.

WoW does WoW better than EVE ever has, will, or even can (try building in a PvE component that isn't an archaic, tedious joke, first) why can't you get this through your head, and stop trying to make EVE, WoW?

Thank you for confirming what I have long suspected.

-3 accounts soonish I'm thinking, this is a complete ******* farce, even by the standards of CCP.

WoW does WoW better than EVE ever has, will, or even can (try building in a PvE component that isn't an archaic, tedious joke, first) why can't you get this through your head, and stop trying to make EVE, WoW?