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Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:15:00 - [961] Originally by: Anti Protagonist Originally by: Kage Getsu Originally by: Anti Protagonist Sounds like bait for a griefing petition really. And you've posted your intentions here for a nice record. As far as what corp I'm in... Assume all you want. The whole "don't judge a book by it's cover" thing. Can we institute an age requirement for this game to keep the immature children out? What a world we live in where people think that declaring war is griefing. Declaring war with the sole purpose of keeping him from undocking his cap ship is griefing if you ask me. Of course, children will be children. So not only does he force CCPs hand with his notoriety, but also gets protection from war decs?
Karmic Caldari Dark Knights of Deneb	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:15:00 - [962] Originally by: Kage Getsu Originally by: Anti Protagonist Declaring war with the sole purpose of keeping him from undocking his cap ship is griefing if you ask me. Of course, children will be children. News flash! Carebear thinks war is griefing! caod ---> I suggest you stop typing.
Frug Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:15:00 - [963] CCP's internal structure is ****ing garbage. Learn some communication. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:16:00 - [964] Originally by: Schalac Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Schalac Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Schalac /c Nope. Because you gain an unfair advantage over other miners as to the fact that your tank far surpasses anything else that can be ganked in high sec while mining. talk about petty What's petty about it? They could basically mine all day long and unless you bring an entire fleet of BSs to gank it they will never be brought down. Do other miners have this option? The answer is no so there is using it's attributes to gain an unfair advantage over other people. You do know that a battlecruiser can extract more ore than the veldnought right? The veldnought is a novelty ship, like the imperial issue apoc. Does any battlecruiser have the cargo space that a dread has? Does any Battlecruiser have the tank that the dread has? Would you mine in a dread if you had one or use a hulk for making money? The veldnought is not for making cash its for fun. Same as how the inperial issue apoc is for show and not pvp.
Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:17:00 - [965] Originally by: Falcon Troy Edited by: Falcon Troy on 27/08/2008 20:15:19 To all you idiots out there calling that Chribba's Veldnaught is an exploit because he's 'ungankable,' shut the ** up. It is gankable, albeit you might have to risk more of YOUR ISK to bring it down. I suppose if I deadspace tank a battleship and use it to mine forcing you to bring in multiple battleships then I'd be using an exploit as well? Get real and quit being jealous. The stupid **s that post here...they amaze me so. Since Chribba got his Veldnaught simply due to unusual circumstance instead of an actual exploit or glitch I suppose we should be taking action against those with unique ships as well. It's quite unfair that I did not receive one or even had the chance to try. As could I, or someone else. How many other people though can bring a dread into highsec and use it to mine? Oh what's that, no one that doesn't already have one.
Kage Getsu Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:18:00 - [966] Originally by: Karmic caod ---> I suggest you stop typing. Why don't you tell me what "caod" means and why I should stop? _________________________________________________________
BlackMoon Thrawn Stimulus	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:18:00 - [967] Originally by: Kage Getsu Originally by: Anti Protagonist Declaring war with the sole purpose of keeping him from undocking his cap ship is griefing if you ask me. Of course, children will be children. News flash! Carebear thinks war is griefing! News flash! Dullard thinks people are fooled by his logical fallacy!
Falcon Troy Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:18:00 - [968] Edited by: Falcon Troy on 27/08/2008 20:19:30 He's a one man corp so war deccing him constantly without any goal or gain other than to interfere with his gameplay is griefing and is against the rules. Originally by: Schalac Originally by: Falcon Troy Edited by: Falcon Troy on 27/08/2008 20:15:19 To all you idiots out there calling that Chribba's Veldnaught is an exploit because he's 'ungankable,' shut the ** up. It is gankable, albeit you might have to risk more of YOUR ISK to bring it down. I suppose if I deadspace tank a battleship and use it to mine forcing you to bring in multiple battleships then I'd be using an exploit as well? Get real and quit being jealous. The stupid s that post here...they amaze me so. Since Chribba got his Veldnaught simply due to unusual circumstance instead of an actual exploit or glitch I suppose we should be taking action against those with unique ships as well. It's quite unfair that I did not receive one or even had the chance to try. As could I, or someone else. How many other people though can bring a dread into highsec and use it to mine? Oh what's that, no one that doesn't already have one. Hey I want a Gold Magnate, I never got the chance to have one. Whine *** moan! _____________ Hai.
Kage Getsu Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:19:00 - [969] Edited by: Kage Getsu on 27/08/2008 20:19:42 Originally by: Falcon Troy He's a one man corp so war deccing him constantly without any goal or gain other than to interfere with his gameplay is griefing and is against the rules. Better tell that to everyone who has ever declared war to disrupt operations or to ask for a ransom. _________________________________________________________
Cyberman Mastermind	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:19:00 - [970] Originally by: Schalac How many other people though can bring a dread into highsec and use it to mine? Oh what's that, no one that doesn't already have one. What's your point? No one can bring a new dread to high-sec. Not even if he's called Chribba. You can buy one of those still in high-sec and use it to mine, though.
Claudia Jefferson	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:20:00 - [971] Weeeee the community won :D Hope they will let chribba and others mine in it still though.
Falcon Troy Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:21:00 - [972] Originally by: Kage Getsu Edited by: Kage Getsu on 27/08/2008 20:19:42 Originally by: Falcon Troy He's a one man corp so war deccing him constantly without any goal or gain other than to interfere with his gameplay is griefing and is against the rules. Better tell that to everyone who has ever declared war to disrupt operations or to ask for a ransom. Disrupting operations or asking for a ransom is a end goal. Interfering with their gameplay has a financial or tactical goal. Deccing him to keep his dreadnaught that can't even agress? That's just griefing. _____________ Hai.
Shanur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:22:00 - [973] 1. A hulk outmines a dreadought with ease. 2. Amarr is AFAIK a .9 sec system. That means no rats to tank. 3. If chribba were foolish enough to undock the veldnaught during a war we would not have had this discussion. Without CONCORD protection even a dread will be bled to death eventually by a pirate swarm. Otherworld enterprises is a one man corp so no one could help him out. Of course he DOES have other ships at his disposal which are perfectly legitimate to use in high sec during a war
Xiut GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:22:00 - [974] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Schalac /c Nope. Because you gain an unfair advantage over other miners as to the fact that your tank far surpasses anything else that can be ganked in high sec while mining. talk about petty HA ha ha.
silent Serena	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:23:00 - [975] Originally by: Schalac Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Schalac Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Schalac /c Nope. Because you gain an unfair advantage over other miners as to the fact that your tank far surpasses anything else that can be ganked in high sec while mining. talk about petty What's petty about it? They could basically mine all day long and unless you bring an entire fleet of BSs to gank it they will never be brought down. Do other miners have this option? The answer is no so there is using it's attributes to gain an unfair advantage over other people. You do know that a battlecruiser can extract more ore than the veldnought right? The veldnought is a novelty ship, like the imperial issue apoc. Does any battlecruiser have the cargo space that a dread has? Does any Battlecruiser have the tank that the dread has? You are aware that you can fit a commandship for 600 k effective hitpoints?
P'uck	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:24:00 - [976] Originally by: Ga'len 3. You may not use your capital shipÆs attributes to gain any sort of advantage over other players while in high security space. doeth that meaneth, no afk mining in a dreadnaught?
Frug Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:25:00 - [977] Originally by: Falcon Troy Better tell that to everyone who has ever declared war to disrupt operations or to ask for a ransom. Disrupting operations or asking for a ransom is a end goal. Interfering with their gameplay has a financial or tactical goal. Deccing him to keep his dreadnaught that can't even agress? That's just griefing. Someone needs to repeat to you how many unique items this game has, and ask you if you're all for removing them from the game as well. You're brilliant. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:26:00 - [978] Originally by: silent Serena You are aware that you can fit a commandship for 600 k effective hitpoints? Yes and everything that EFT says is how it works out in the game. . .
Laae Aenus Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:28:00 - [979] ahaha, best thread ever 30 pages of whining how eve is being ruined... and now everyone is whining how ccp caved in. This forum is amazing.
Sylvmar Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:29:00 - [980] Glad you've seen sense CCP. Keep up the good work.
silent Serena	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:30:00 - [981] Edited by: silent Serena on 27/08/2008 20:31:18 Originally by: Schalac Originally by: silent Serena You are aware that you can fit a commandship for 600 k effective hitpoints? Yes and everything that EFT says is how it works out in the game. . . Difference between you and me, I can afford it. Oh and regarding EFT, I do have commandships V and all the skills needed to make my EFT fit work. As a mather of fact I fly a very similar setup, Else i fitted dual reps instead and t2 aux nano pumps to rep more effecient.. Edit: oh but i dont use it for mining much
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:30:00 - [982] Originally by: Laae Aenus ahaha, best thread ever 30 pages of whining how eve is being ruined... and now everyone is whining how ccp caved in. This forum is amazing. nah its just 3 or 4 complaining now. We all know its just because they are bitter about not having a ship so popular that the community will stand up for it.
Matjara Laahr	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:31:00 - [983] Originally by: GM Grimmi GM Grimmi Lead Game Master Thank You btw, did you choose the 888th post on purpose?
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:32:00 - [984] Edited by: NightmareX on 27/08/2008 20:31:56 CCP, make sure to slap that GM that did move his dread without reading the rules carefully enough before he did take action against Chribba. Make them learn to NOT do mistakes like this one more time. But yeah, good to see that Chribba's Veldnaught got moved back to Amarr.
Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:32:00 - [985] Originally by: silent Serena Originally by: Schalac Originally by: silent Serena You are aware that you can fit a commandship for 600 k effective hitpoints? Yes and everything that EFT says is how it works out in the game. . . Difference between you and me, I can afford it. Oh and regarding EFT, I do have commandships V and all the skills needed to make my EFT fit work. As a mather of fact I fly a very similar setup, Else i fitted dual reps instead and t2 aux nano pumps to rep more effecient.. And what happens to your fit if someone gets a few large neuts on it? Must be one hell of a passive rep to get 600k effective with no power. . .
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:35:00 - [986] Originally by: Chribba This rule does not make any difference when it comes to me. As I would never have undocked it anyway. well bugger, can't make screenshots then Or maybe only undock when payed to view, a real tourist attraction
Ga'len Neo Spartans	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:37:00 - [987] Originally by: Akira2501 EveryoneÆs so quick to condemn CCPà see they did the right thing after all. Just a mistake. That wasn't the issue. People are not quick to condemn CCP, they are quick to be angered by an obvious mistake that had no obvious thought behind it. It's not irrational anger, it's dedication to making this a great game and a great player experience.
Taross Caldari Blue Sky Inc	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:37:00 - [988] Thank you CCP. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie
Falcon Troy Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:37:00 - [989] Originally by: Schalac Originally by: silent Serena Originally by: Schalac Originally by: silent Serena You are aware that you can fit a commandship for 600 k effective hitpoints? Yes and everything that EFT says is how it works out in the game. . . Difference between you and me, I can afford it. Oh and regarding EFT, I do have commandships V and all the skills needed to make my EFT fit work. As a mather of fact I fly a very similar setup, Else i fitted dual reps instead and t2 aux nano pumps to rep more effecient.. And what happens to your fit if someone gets a few large neuts on it? Must be one hell of a passive rep to get 600k effective with no power. . . Dude, get over it. You're wrong and you're just pulling straws at this point. Do us a favor and get out. _____________ Hai.
TamiyaCowboy Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.27 20:37:00 - [990] 1. get rid of the CSM 2. start listening too long term players, ones older than 2yrs not three day old idoits/alts 3. bring back keiron, bring back eve-tv, bring back ingame NCP RolePlay. remove warp too 0 i been playing since june 16th 2006, back then we had 500k sp (starting char) no warp too 0, no wrecks, no salvage. life was hard back then, it was the mad mwd rush too gates, the age of 10k bookmarks etc etc. look at what eve is now. pilots are handed everything on a plate, just scream something needs nerf'ing and the next day the nerf is set. i realy do wonder if anyone in ccp plays eve now why do i still play CCP. well i trusted you the very first day i logged onto tranquility. i trusted you when things went wrong (t20 and other stuff like the boot-ini) and when things went right. but alas my trust is fading CCP i feel you are letting us down as a playerbase. the dev blogs have gone down hill, the forum is lost now kieron has gone. I want the 2006 CCP back !!!!! the ones that made me feel they cared about the game and about me, the CCP that made eve a challenge, the CCP that made earning a living in eve hard.

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