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Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
385
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:39:00 -
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XxTheKmanxX wrote:Ulesi wrote:Prove that you are truly sorry. Resign. you must own a titan......
Goon defending a Goon.
Fly Safe, Die Hard
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
34
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:39:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:But what happened at fanfest had nothing to do with "the mittani" the character. It was Alex gianturkeyo ripping on some other player as the leader of Eve's player council in the view of the cameras in a performance that was immediately replayed and analysed by the gaming press.
He did it as himself, the leader of the CSM. And as you are seeing from the responses of genuine independent eve players in this thread - its simply not acceptable.
You're kinda full of **** since it was the alliance panel and nothing to do with the CSM, he was speaking as the leader of Goonswarm, not as the leader of the CSM, there's a huge difference.
PS; as a genuine independent eve player I consider his apology and 10.7 bil isk reparations paid more than enough to make up for his mistake |
Araviel
Spiritus Draconis
10
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:40:00 -
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Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:Demarcus wrote:As my former CEO I love you Tyrrax, but what does what he used to do in real life have to do with anything. If he has any respect for the position he was voted into he needs to resign it.
I don't know what makes me feel sicker, the events at question or the CEO of GHSC going PL. I was just correcting the guy I was quoting about the lawyer thing. Why should Mittani resign over something as trivial as this ? "victim" seems fine, and rich because of of Mittani's mistake. Public apology, reparations... Seems excessive to me to expect more, 10000 people voted him in, and vast majority of them would sure as **** vote him in again if elections were held right now. PS; Why does me joining PL make you feel sick ? lol
it could maybe have been trivial, if apology and reparations had been done quick enough. (however it shouldnt have happend in the first place) instead it got blown up to this and media got a hold of it. and you know about the impact media can have on the game.
we can hope media buys into the apology, but i have my doubts about that.
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Rob Daphiti
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:40:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:
Well mr no linebreak. The simple answer is that when this stuff gets done in the game its assumed to be "in character" - its "the mittani" being a nasty piece of work to some random space pilot and his barge or "the mittani" scamming some space academy guy or "the mittani" doing some spying stuff and claiming the credit for some other guys fail cascading etc.
But what happened at fanfest had nothing to do with "the mittani" the character. It was Alex gianturkeyo ripping on some other player as the leader of Eve's player council in the view of the cameras in a performance that was immediately replayed and analysed by the gaming press.
If you mr nolinebreaks where to go and ransom some dude at an asteroid belt and say nasty things about his manhood (or lack therein) nobody would really care because you didn't have a tv crew recording it and streaming onto the internet.
And thats another difference really. When you stand for CSM elections you agree to set an example by your real life behaviour for other players and the example that Alex set on stage at fanfest was a frankly terrible one - indulging in a nasty little case of cyberbullying and namecalling and incitement to harrass some other player for the laughs and indulgent of his circlejerk.
He did it as himself, the leader of the CSM. And as you are seeing from the responses of genuine independent eve players in this thread - its simply not acceptable.
He acted the same as he acts in game and he acts that way sober when playing. You play the part you enjoy. If a guy acts like that in game how do think he would be in RL if there was no social stigma against it they would act the same as they enjoy. If he wasn't drunk he would have most likely acted in a way that was socially accepted. But you know how that true serum works bring out who you really are. People would not act the way they do in game if they didn't enjoy it. The way you act in game is what you are in RL or would like to be if there was no repercussions, |
Bane Necran
158
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:40:00 -
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Ulesi wrote:Prove that you are truly sorry. Resign.
I want a Mittani corpse.
Everyone should get Mittani corpses. Only then will i be convinced of his sincerity. |
Demarcus
Killjoy.
17
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:40:00 -
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Taedrin wrote:Xen Solarus wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Unlike most of the EVE players who are posting, especially those brainwashed to GoonThink, the REAL WORLD TAKES THIS VERY SERIOUSLY.
CCP will unfortunately now have to insert certain rules into our Game.
Sony, known for it's campaign against cyber-bullying, is now in a perfect position to drop Dust 514 like a Hot Potato.
THIS is exactly the kind of crap that kind of company will not deal with. At all.
Things will change unfortunately.
They absolutely will if CCP, no longer the truly independent free-spirit of the gaming world, wants to continue courting businesses like Sony and NVidia.
This kind of press to Sony: no Sir, they don't like it.
But then, when the mittani (I just can't capitalize it after this) brought the Goons over to OUR game, he said it was with the intent to destroy the game for everyone.
His words.
Congratulations Sir, you have succeeded beyond your wildest dreams. Quoted for truth. Quote is taken out of context. Goons originally came to EVE with the intent to destroy it, but loved it so much that they stayed.
No, they just failed miserably.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
286
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:40:00 -
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Derrick Munroe wrote:Hey guys, hate to stop the "BAN MITTINI" circlejerk, but now for a dousing of evidence and facts (scary I know)... Quote:[21:10:18] Xeross155 > Heya [21:10:22] The Wis > Hello [21:10:29] Xeross155 > Getting swarmed with interviews I can imagine [21:10:50] The Wis > No why? [21:11:57] Xeross155 > With this BS and all http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-player-panel-that-encouraged-cyber-bullying/[21:12:21] Xeross155 > Pretty sure the name Mittani called out was "The Wis" [21:12:31] The Wis > Oh I will have to check that out.. What is going on? [21:12:58] Xeross155 > You sent him a mail when you got scammed and your Mackinaws destroyed or smth [21:13:41] Xeross155 > Or at least one of his alliance mates [21:14:13] The Wis > Could have.. been a long time. Might have been when they had the safe mining offer when you guys were doing your anti ice thing. [21:15:08] The Wis > I did have someone ask me if I was ok.. Becouse he said that I had killed myself afterwards and he thought it was funny.. I did not see it so I have no clue what was said. [21:15:52] Xeross155 > Basically some idiots are all butthurt and are calling for him to step down from CSM and **** [21:16:51] Xeross155 > Basically, enjoy your 5 minutes of fame, multiple gaming press websites are putting the story up [21:16:58] Xeross155 > Leaving out your name though [21:16:59] Xeross155 > one sec [21:19:54] The Wis > Well I am not sure what is going on.. I know I have had some people say I should put a pentition in. Witch I have not. Since I have not seen the video or anything. But that would also explain why the goons are moving into my system now and starting [21:19:57] The Wis > ganking here. [21:24:54] Xeross155 > http://youtu.be/E7Ki91U-mBE?t=1h11m55s[21:26:17] Xeross155 > That's basically the snippet that people are upset about for some reason [21:29:34] Xeross155 > Anyway, CCP is doing an internal audit and **** about it, 3 game news websites have reported it so far, basically tagging it cyber-bullying [21:30:50] The Wis > Ok.. Well that is nice. Hmm.. wait.. If i do kill my self they might arrest him and prosicute him since he is in the US.. That would really be bad for him. [21:31:01] The Wis > Just kidding of course but a thought.[21:31:20] The Wis > Fly safe. I have real life stuff to do now.. ANd to watch for goons in system.. Fun Fun. The guy doesn't care. Even joked about it. The entire thing is so incredibly overblown, doubtless by those very people who detested the fact that Mittani was elected democratically for CSM chair (by a landslide). Just saw this thread and got to wondering if "the victim" even knows about what's going on, there being not a single post from him on these forums. And now this post.
What can I say? Most people are idiots. And that's a fact. |
Calanthe Maulerant
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
4
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:41:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:Calanthe Maulerant wrote:YOU ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE SPACE KING OF MY HEART. WTF am I? GIVE ME ATTENTION TOO
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaai ceo ~~ i'd follow you if you left FA.
BBQ FTW > mity calanthe |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1469
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:41:00 -
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Kitfox Mikakka wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:And as you are seeing from the responses of genuine independent eve players in this thread - its simply not acceptable. And you're completely ignoring every single independent eve player who's saying they support him and his apology. But that's no real surprise.
You goons really aren't saying anything apart from "la la la I'm not listening la la la" (and putting your hands over your ears while reading out prepared memes somebody else made earlier.)
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
68
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:42:00 -
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Everyone gets one bite of the apple. Hell, we're all still subscribers, and CCP releases Incarna. Their apology came in the form of Crucible.
Alex ****** up, apologized, and now we all need to be big boys and girls and recognize the value of an apology and move on.
Enough Kindergarten lessons. Le'ts go pew pew in an ice belt or something. |
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
34
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:42:00 -
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People who claim goons came to eve to destroy it are ignorant and wrong. |
Zanmaru
Broski North Black Legion.
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:42:00 -
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I'll buy it. I won't shed a tear if Mittani gets booted from CSM, but nor will I call for his resignation. Honestly, I'm more irritated by a community that will mindlessly flock to defend such behavior.
Kinda pulls the rug out from under you to have the guy you're defending admit to his wrongdoing, doesn't it? |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
945
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:43:00 -
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Alexandra Alt wrote:Tanya Powers wrote:Next time he will drink Long Johnson instead of Jack Daniels. My god, they both suck!
Jack is my favourite but yeah, nothing good as Pastis, real men's drink. |
Dominick Owusu
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:43:00 -
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You're apologizing for that? Ahahahahahahaha!
This is a hard knock game for tough people. The weak leave to play Hello Kitty Island Adventure within hours. Don't do anything stupid over this (like resign). If they can't take a joke, **** them. |
Demarcus
Killjoy.
17
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:43:00 -
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Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:People who claim goons came to eve to destroy it are ignorant and wrong.
Not really, they just failed at it.
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Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
445
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:44:00 -
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Calanthe Maulerant wrote:Zagdul wrote:Calanthe Maulerant wrote:YOU ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE SPACE KING OF MY HEART. WTF am I? GIVE ME ATTENTION TOO maaaaaaaaaaaaaaai alliance ceo ~~ i'd follow you if you left FA.
What if I stay?
It's not Rocket Surgery |
Eian
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:44:00 -
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Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:Eian wrote:Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:, and you seem legitimately sorry for what happened I say live and let die. I've got some BPO's I want to sell for real cheap. Let's talk. I know it might be hard for you to believe, but people can actually give sincere apologies. Shocking, I know.
I absolutely agree. Those people are easy to read. Just not as easy as someone who's not sincere.
If you think this prick is sincere you need to re-evaluate your ability to read people. |
L00B
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:44:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Kitfox Mikakka wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:And as you are seeing from the responses of genuine independent eve players in this thread - its simply not acceptable. And you're completely ignoring every single independent eve player who's saying they support him and his apology. But that's no real surprise. You goons really aren't saying anything apart from "la la la I'm not listening la la la" (and putting your hands over your ears while reading out prepared memes somebody else made earlier.)
Look, yet another sweeping generalization! It's almost as if you are FULL OF THEM! |
Calanthe Maulerant
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
5
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:45:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:Calanthe Maulerant wrote:Zagdul wrote:Calanthe Maulerant wrote:YOU ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE SPACE KING OF MY HEART. WTF am I? GIVE ME ATTENTION TOO maaaaaaaaaaaaaaai alliance ceo ~~ i'd follow you if you left FA. What if I stay?
then i don't have to follow you, do i?
BBQ FTW > mity calanthe |
Volar Kang
Quartz Research Explicit Advisory
6
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:45:00 -
[650] - Quote
Its one thing to play a d-bag in a game, its quite another to act it out in real life. Perhaps you have spent a bit too much time in game lately and need a short break? |
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Slaktoffer
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:46:00 -
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ITT: Sock puppets and asshats.
What happened to htfu? |
Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
108
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:46:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Alexandra Alt wrote:Tanya Powers wrote:Next time he will drink Long Johnson instead of Jack Daniels. My god, they both suck! Jack is my favourite but yeah, nothing good as Pastis, real men's drink.
Johnnie Walker Black or Chivas Regal 18 years ftw! |
Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
44
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:46:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:You goons really aren't saying anything apart from "la la la I'm not listening la la la" (and putting your hands over your ears while reading out prepared memes somebody else made earlier.)
Not really, there's not any prepared statements we're getting from CFC upper crust about this or whatever. I personally would get pretty pissed off of the two votes I threw towards Mittani ended up being worthless due to a kneejerk reaction to a drunken comment that he's apologized for getting him removed from the CSM, no matter how the removal happened. Chalk it up to me being a horrible awful goonie gewn goon goon if you want, but I'd hate to see someone who's got a proven history of being able to help make changes that I consider positive happen to a game I care about forced out because of a single moment of bad judgement. Everyone makes mistakes, after all. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
947
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:47:00 -
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Who is FA? |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
36
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:47:00 -
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Demarcus wrote:Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:People who claim goons came to eve to destroy it are ignorant and wrong. Not really, they just failed at it.
I was there, and semi-involved with the first goon corps (griefing them for the most part) they were just another bunch of newbies making corps and playing a game.
once they moved to syndicate they were having lots of fun swarming and defeating older players, they loved eve
short time later they moved in with red alliance and TCF and became my close allies until I got kicked out of IAC, so I'd say I know more about them and their history and intentions than you do |
Lane Shift
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:48:00 -
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Sounds like terrorism.
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Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
46
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:48:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Kitfox Mikakka wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:And as you are seeing from the responses of genuine independent eve players in this thread - its simply not acceptable. And you're completely ignoring every single independent eve player who's saying they support him and his apology. But that's no real surprise. You goons really aren't saying anything apart from "la la la I'm not listening la la la" (and putting your hands over your ears while reading out prepared memes somebody else made earlier.) A wild opportunist appears... |
Amity Lane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:48:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Kitfox Mikakka wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:And as you are seeing from the responses of genuine independent eve players in this thread - its simply not acceptable. And you're completely ignoring every single independent eve player who's saying they support him and his apology. But that's no real surprise. You goons really aren't saying anything apart from "la la la I'm not listening la la la" (and putting your hands over your ears while reading out prepared memes somebody else made earlier.) It's seemed to me in my whole 12 hours of forum experience that that's the status quo. "If I shout it loud enough, it'll become the truth."
The truth is, unfortunately, the one thing nobody is really confronting:
Resignations promised: 1 Resignations: 0
I really hope CCP doesn't have to step in here (for business reasons or whatnot). I think it's important that The Mittani act of his own accord, and either step down or announce his intention to stay. In real-world politics we don't get to just replace our elected officials, but we definitely get to pressure them into action and if they refuse to take said action they don't get re-elected. This should be no different.
The social depth of this game is already making this noob very, very happy with his new gaming home. :) |
Headerman
Quovis CORE Alliance
732
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:48:00 -
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Kitfox Mikakka wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:You goons really aren't saying anything apart from "la la la I'm not listening la la la" (and putting your hands over your ears while reading out prepared memes somebody else made earlier.) Not really, there's not any prepared statements we're getting from CFC upper crust about this or whatever. I personally would get pretty pissed off of the two votes I threw towards Mittani ended up being worthless due to a kneejerk reaction to a drunken comment that he's apologized for getting him removed from the CSM, no matter how the removal happened. Chalk it up to me being a horrible awful goonie gewn goon goon if you want, but I'd hate to see someone who's got a proven history of being able to help make changes that I consider positive happen to a game I care about forced out because of a single moment of bad judgement. Everyone makes mistakes, after all.
Everyone, in one way or another, pays for their mistakes as well. The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |
Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
214
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:49:00 -
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Benilopax wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Benilopax wrote:Wacktopia wrote:I'm pretty sure that cyber bullying is considered a felony now in extreme cases. Certainly seen some news coverage recently on it.
People talking about bans and resignations when this is far from the 'worse case scenario'. Somebody could make a complaint to the police (I am in no way suggesting it) but there could be issues over who has jurisdiction. Iceland, America or the country the victim comes from. Internet law is in it's infancy, and I think getting police involved is going way too far for this case. FBI would actually be where you start for cyber bullying in the USA since he is a US citizen. This certainly isn't worthy of the FBI!
Not something you can quote on to be honest. It would depend on the effect on the victim.
HOWEVER, I was merely posting to highlight the risks involved in doing this kind of thing publicly on the internet rather than start a lynch mob. . |
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