Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 [90] 100 .. 181 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 2 post(s) |

GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:03:00 -
[2671] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Danfen Fenix wrote:Tbf, I actually have a small amount of respect for Mittani atm. Not for his actions at FF, but rather the fact that he has made his apology, done all the correct steps so far, and left it at that. No falling to any baiting, or getting in to forum arguements, just accepting it & taking things as they are, and go, so far (at least, as it appears atm  ) The silence you hear is the sound of Alex holding his breath and praying silently that when this is over he can still play Eve. Any sign of smugness from him at this point is pretty much a biomass sentence.
Noooo, the silence is the fact that more level-headed approaches are being properly considered before anything happens. You know, like Seleene said earlier. Anything else is pretty much a piece of conjecture. |

Danfen Fenix
Vita Aequitas Veritas The Paganism Alliance
33
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:03:00 -
[2672] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Danfen Fenix wrote:Tbf, I actually have a small amount of respect for Mittani atm. Not for his actions at FF, but rather the fact that he has made his apology, done all the correct steps so far, and left it at that. No falling to any baiting, or getting in to forum arguements, just accepting it & taking things as they are, and go, so far (at least, as it appears atm  ) The silence you hear is the sound of Alex holding his breath and praying silently that when this is over he can still play Eve. Any sign of smugness from him at this point is pretty much a biomass sentence.
That may be true, but there are also so many others who would get in to arguements and make things worse Just the fact that he knows that he should stay silent, for personal gain or not, is better than the opposite. |

Abriael VonRosen
State War Academy Caldari State
6
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:04:00 -
[2673] - Quote
Yeep wrote: I think most of the actual (by which I mean rational, unselfishly motivated) disagreement is over what an appropriate consequence is.
Ultimately the room of discussion is limited. The CSM grants a certain amount of personal visibility, influence and advantages. With the perks comes responsibility, and consequence for the breach of that responsibility needs to be unforgiving.
Now that the media got its hands on this mess (and mind you the same should happens if the media didn't, as it should be a matter of principle), the only way for the CSM to keep it's credibility is to remove the offender.
Do we seriously want to be publicly represented by someone that doesn't have the slight sense necessary not to get wasted before a televised panel he has to speak at, during an all expenses paid trip? That seems a rather mindboggling idea to me. |

Garadjanalhavar Arareb
Viziam Amarr Empire
3
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:06:00 -
[2674] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:Danfen Fenix wrote:Tbf, I actually have a small amount of respect for Mittani atm. Not for his actions at FF, but rather the fact that he has made his apology, done all the correct steps so far, and left it at that. No falling to any baiting, or getting in to forum arguements, just accepting it & taking things as they are, and go, so far (at least, as it appears atm  ) The silence you hear is the sound of Alex holding his breath and praying silently that when this is over he can still play Eve. Any sign of smugness from him at this point is pretty much a biomass sentence.
Yes ...
I can see it now ...
It's strong in this one. |

Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
37
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:07:00 -
[2675] - Quote
RougeOperator wrote:Riddick Liddell wrote:Does this mean Goonswarm are carebears now? They have been crying more them them lately.
I am actually expecting (hoping) goons will go on a complete holy war against eve, suicidal throwing of ships at everything and everybody for a bit. that would just be awesome to see. No politics, no nbsi, just we are going to move in this random direction, anybody here will burn in fire.
Just because that would be epic to have. Also, during FF they said they wanted bigger fights to really push the servers.. |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
46
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:08:00 -
[2676] - Quote
esc shk wrote:i am at a loss for words
Then stop posting? |

Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
39
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:10:00 -
[2677] - Quote
Abriael VonRosen wrote: Do we seriously want to be publicly represented by someone that doesn't have the slight sense necessary not to get wasted before a televised panel he has to speak at, during an all expenses paid trip? That seems a rather mindboggling idea to me.
Doesn't bother me, doesn't bother ccp (have you seen oveur vids?), probably doesn't bother many who voted for him. The only issue is what he actually said. Even then If he wasn't a goon this would have blown over already.
|

GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:11:00 -
[2678] - Quote
Doddy wrote:Abriael VonRosen wrote: Do we seriously want to be publicly represented by someone that doesn't have the slight sense necessary not to get wasted before a televised panel he has to speak at, during an all expenses paid trip? That seems a rather mindboggling idea to me.
Doesn't bother me, doesn't bother ccp (have you seen oveur vids?), probably doesn't bother many who voted for him. The only issue is what he actually said. Even then If he wasn't a goon this would have blown over already.
I forgot about some of Oveur's best. I'm going to have to youtube some. |

Kalathia Eginald
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
13
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:12:00 -
[2679] - Quote
Abriael VonRosen wrote:Ultimately the room of discussion is limited. The CSM grants a certain amount of personal visibility, influence and advantages. With the perks comes responsibility, and consequence for the breach of that responsibility needs to be unforgiving.
Now that the media got its hands on this mess (and mind you the same should happens if the media didn't, as it should be a matter of principle), the only way for the CSM to keep it's credibility is to remove the offender.
Do we seriously want to be publicly represented by someone that doesn't have the slight sense necessary not to get wasted before a televised panel he has to speak at, during an all expenses paid trip? That seems a rather mindboggling idea to me.
How many politicians have been caught with prossies, doing drugs, having an affair, and are still in their seats?
I'd rather be represented by someone who has made a mistake, is willing to admit it and learn from it, otherwise known as a human being, than some of the hollier than thou politicians we get. Whether or not he will learn form it is something that will have to be seen as until it is it is just conjecture that he will.
I can see both side of this argument, as I have no vested interest in either camp, and in the end what will happen will happen and we have to accept it or vote with our money. |

Tamir Lenk
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:13:00 -
[2680] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:esc shk wrote:i am at a loss for words Then stop posting?
Never stop posting.
I post, therefore I am. |
|

GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:14:00 -
[2681] - Quote
Kalathia Eginald wrote:Abriael VonRosen wrote:Ultimately the room of discussion is limited. The CSM grants a certain amount of personal visibility, influence and advantages. With the perks comes responsibility, and consequence for the breach of that responsibility needs to be unforgiving.
Now that the media got its hands on this mess (and mind you the same should happens if the media didn't, as it should be a matter of principle), the only way for the CSM to keep it's credibility is to remove the offender.
Do we seriously want to be publicly represented by someone that doesn't have the slight sense necessary not to get wasted before a televised panel he has to speak at, during an all expenses paid trip? That seems a rather mindboggling idea to me. How many politicians have been caught with prossies, doing drugs, having an affair, and are still in their seats? I'd rather be represented by someone who has made a mistake, is willing to admit it and learn from it, otherwise known as a human being, than some of the hollier than thou politicians we get. Whether or not he will learn form it is something that will have to be seen as until it is it is just conjecture that he will. I can see both side of this argument, as I have no vested interest in either camp, and in the end what will happen will happen and we have to accept it or vote with our money.
This too is a good post. |

Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
6
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:14:00 -
[2682] - Quote
GallowsCalibrator wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Danfen Fenix wrote:Tbf, I actually have a small amount of respect for Mittani atm. Not for his actions at FF, but rather the fact that he has made his apology, done all the correct steps so far, and left it at that. No falling to any baiting, or getting in to forum arguements, just accepting it & taking things as they are, and go, so far (at least, as it appears atm  ) The silence you hear is the sound of Alex holding his breath and praying silently that when this is over he can still play Eve. Any sign of smugness from him at this point is pretty much a biomass sentence. Noooo, the silence is the fact that more level-headed approaches are being properly considered before anything happens. You know, like Seleene said earlier. Anything else is pretty much a piece of conjecture.
so true
but then his own corp/ally mates makes all that even worse for him and ccp by all this not even remotely funny posts |

Sunviking
The Shining Knights
19
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:16:00 -
[2683] - Quote
Mitanni, that was a terrible apology, and so insincere.
You are only saying this to desperately try and stave off any impact it might have on your RL career in Law. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1328
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:16:00 -
[2684] - Quote
Abriael VonRosen wrote:Yeep wrote: I think most of the actual (by which I mean rational, unselfishly motivated) disagreement is over what an appropriate consequence is.
Ultimately the room of discussion is limited. The CSM grants a certain amount of personal visibility, influence and advantages. With the perks comes responsibility, and consequence for the breach of that responsibility needs to be unforgiving. Now that the media got its hands on this mess (and mind you the same should happens if the media didn't, as it should be a matter of principle), the only way for the CSM to keep it's credibility is to remove the offender. Do we seriously want to be publicly represented by someone that doesn't have the slight sense necessary not to get wasted before a televised panel he has to speak at, during an all expenses paid trip? That seems a rather mindboggling idea to me.
Actually drunkeness was rather expected, may that never change. He needs to learn how to handle his liquor better though.
The only real questions are:
Are Panel members at FanFest subject to the same restrictions on what they can say as people are in game or on the forums? Are CSM members subject to the same restrictions on what they can say as people are in game or on the forums? If so, does this apply at all times or only when acting in their official capacity as CSM members?
If the decision that they apply to anyone speaking at FanFest in person, or at all times to people on the CSM, then the normal rules should apply. Namely a ban whose length should be determined by the circumstance by CCP.
Stepping down from his position as chairman or from the CSM entirely is another matter, but I believe those decisions would be directly affected by the decisions made above... then appropriate PUN-ishments can be determined (if any).
(See, now they are going to be all confused again).
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
6
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:16:00 -
[2685] - Quote
GallowsCalibrator wrote:Kalathia Eginald wrote:Abriael VonRosen wrote:Ultimately the room of discussion is limited. The CSM grants a certain amount of personal visibility, influence and advantages. With the perks comes responsibility, and consequence for the breach of that responsibility needs to be unforgiving.
Now that the media got its hands on this mess (and mind you the same should happens if the media didn't, as it should be a matter of principle), the only way for the CSM to keep it's credibility is to remove the offender.
Do we seriously want to be publicly represented by someone that doesn't have the slight sense necessary not to get wasted before a televised panel he has to speak at, during an all expenses paid trip? That seems a rather mindboggling idea to me. How many politicians have been caught with prossies, doing drugs, having an affair, and are still in their seats? I'd rather be represented by someone who has made a mistake, is willing to admit it and learn from it, otherwise known as a human being, than some of the hollier than thou politicians we get. Whether or not he will learn form it is something that will have to be seen as until it is it is just conjecture that he will. I can see both side of this argument, as I have no vested interest in either camp, and in the end what will happen will happen and we have to accept it or vote with our money. This too is a good post.
this isnt politics and the csm isnt a democracy
ccp will do whats best for them , and imo that is the banhammer
|

Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
39
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:17:00 -
[2686] - Quote
Sunviking wrote:That was a terrible apology, and so insincere.
You are only saying this to desperately try and stave off any impact it might have on your RL career in Law.
What career?
|

xXv1c10usXx
Alchemy Corp
3
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:17:00 -
[2687] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:esc shk wrote:i am at a loss for words Then stop posting?
That would only be in the case of them having a brain with by which to assemble to usage of a communicative stream of prose that would actually contribute instead of something that would portray themselves as an asswipe. |

Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
37
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:17:00 -
[2688] - Quote
Lt Pizi wrote:GallowsCalibrator wrote:
Noooo, the silence is the fact that more level-headed approaches are being properly considered before anything happens. You know, like Seleene said earlier. Anything else is pretty much a piece of conjecture.
so true but then his own corp/ally mates makes all that even worse for him and ccp by all this not even remotely funny posts
Yeah, not sure did I post it here? But in the tweets, Seleene said a few days will be the official statements. |

Voull
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:18:00 -
[2689] - Quote
I'm new to this game but can tell that if this was anyone else, they would have been banned already.
I don't get why there is so ball fondling for this mittani guy, especially after I watched the video in question from his presentation. You all have to realize he is just some meglomaniac, and that by supporting him you are just enabling him to continue to behave in a socially unacceptable manner.
A lot of you need to step away from the game and reflect on what you're really saying when you try to just let the situation blow over. I am really confused why some continue to say what happened is not noteworthy when even mittani himself has issued a public apology and reprimanded his own actions.
This incident could have been so much worse, but we were fortunate enough it wasn't. Next time, who knows. Being a troll has it's place, and that type of behavior is completely inappropriate for this incident. |

Fenris Deka
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
72
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:18:00 -
[2690] - Quote
Doddy wrote:Sunviking wrote:That was a terrible apology, and so insincere.
You are only saying this to desperately try and stave off any impact it might have on your RL career in Law. What career?
No kidding. |
|

Nought Prymary
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:19:00 -
[2691] - Quote
Oh God, so depressed.
Gonna OD and end it all.
The only medication I have access to is laxatives.
Wish me luck. |

xXv1c10usXx
Alchemy Corp
3
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:19:00 -
[2692] - Quote
Lt Pizi wrote:GallowsCalibrator wrote:Kalathia Eginald wrote:Abriael VonRosen wrote:Ultimately the room of discussion is limited. The CSM grants a certain amount of personal visibility, influence and advantages. With the perks comes responsibility, and consequence for the breach of that responsibility needs to be unforgiving.
Now that the media got its hands on this mess (and mind you the same should happens if the media didn't, as it should be a matter of principle), the only way for the CSM to keep it's credibility is to remove the offender.
Do we seriously want to be publicly represented by someone that doesn't have the slight sense necessary not to get wasted before a televised panel he has to speak at, during an all expenses paid trip? That seems a rather mindboggling idea to me. How many politicians have been caught with prossies, doing drugs, having an affair, and are still in their seats? I'd rather be represented by someone who has made a mistake, is willing to admit it and learn from it, otherwise known as a human being, than some of the hollier than thou politicians we get. Whether or not he will learn form it is something that will have to be seen as until it is it is just conjecture that he will. I can see both side of this argument, as I have no vested interest in either camp, and in the end what will happen will happen and we have to accept it or vote with our money. This too is a good post. this isnt politics and the csm isnt a democracy ccp will do whats best for them , and imo that is the banhammer
Would that include the usage of the banhammer on your illegitimate self? |

Abriael VonRosen
State War Academy Caldari State
7
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:20:00 -
[2693] - Quote
Kalathia Eginald wrote: How many politicians have been caught with prossies, doing drugs, having an affair, and are still in their seats?
Not that many actually, especially between those that covered prominent positions, and the CSM chair is a very prominent position in its context.
[QUOTE]I'd rather be represented by someone who has made a mistake, is willing to admit it and learn from it[QUOTE]
I'd rather be represented, in a future mandate, by someone who as made a large mistake and is willing to actually face its full consequences, instead of just apologizing and hoping in getting away with it with a wirstslap. |

GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
25
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:21:00 -
[2694] - Quote
Markus Reese wrote:Lt Pizi wrote:GallowsCalibrator wrote:
Noooo, the silence is the fact that more level-headed approaches are being properly considered before anything happens. You know, like Seleene said earlier. Anything else is pretty much a piece of conjecture.
so true but then his own corp/ally mates makes all that even worse for him and ccp by all this not even remotely funny posts Yeah, not sure did I post it here? But in the tweets, Seleene said a few days will be the official statements.
Yeah, you've posted it. But, just to reaffirm:
Seleene GÇÅ@Seleene_EVE
OFFICIAL: The CSM are discussing recent events and will issue a public statement after a few days. #tweetfleet #EveOnline #csm7 #csm6 |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1328
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:22:00 -
[2695] - Quote
Abriael VonRosen wrote:Kalathia Eginald wrote: How many politicians have been caught with prossies, doing drugs, having an affair, and are still in their seats?
Not that many actually, especially between those that covered prominent positions, and the CSM chair is a very prominent position in its context. Quote:I'd rather be represented by someone who has made a mistake, is willing to admit it and learn from it I'd rather be represented, in a future mandate, by someone who as made a large mistake and is willing to actually face its full consequences, instead of just apologizing and hoping in getting away with it with a wirstslap.
It's rather hard to accept those consequences when they are yet to be determined don't you think?
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

xXv1c10usXx
Alchemy Corp
3
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:23:00 -
[2696] - Quote
Nought Prymary wrote:Oh God, so depressed.
Gonna OD and end it all.
The only medication I have access to is laxatives.
Wish me luck.
Well, the good news is that a few hours after taking such medications, you will share something in common with this thread, spewing forth sh!t that is out of control. |

Tamir Lenk
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:23:00 -
[2697] - Quote
Nought Prymary wrote:Oh God, so depressed.
Gonna OD and end it all.
The only medication I have access to is laxatives.
Wish me luck.
**** JUST GOT REAL! |

Li Ter
Me Shoot Laser You Eye
2
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:26:00 -
[2698] - Quote
XavierVE wrote:Sang-in Tiers wrote:Is he trolling or is he not... He had a wizard hat on while talking about "The Wiz", coincidence? His apology isn't a troll, but it's not sincere either. The initial reaction of "deal with it" was much more in line with what he'd like to say. He didn't realize how far this would blow up in terms of it being covered by mainstream gaming sites and figures this meandering apology will preserve his chairmanship and his account. Knowing how CCP loves to cover for their golden boys, he's probably right.
also he knew all to well what he was doing since he created the slide of the mackinaw pilot before the alliance panel discussions ect, he knew what he was doing and he knew what he was going to say, ide still prefer if he stepped down tbh
|

Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
6
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:26:00 -
[2699] - Quote
xXv1c10usXx wrote:Lt Pizi wrote:GallowsCalibrator wrote:Kalathia Eginald wrote:Abriael VonRosen wrote:Ultimately the room of discussion is limited. The CSM grants a certain amount of personal visibility, influence and advantages. With the perks comes responsibility, and consequence for the breach of that responsibility needs to be unforgiving.
Now that the media got its hands on this mess (and mind you the same should happens if the media didn't, as it should be a matter of principle), the only way for the CSM to keep it's credibility is to remove the offender.
Do we seriously want to be publicly represented by someone that doesn't have the slight sense necessary not to get wasted before a televised panel he has to speak at, during an all expenses paid trip? That seems a rather mindboggling idea to me. How many politicians have been caught with prossies, doing drugs, having an affair, and are still in their seats? I'd rather be represented by someone who has made a mistake, is willing to admit it and learn from it, otherwise known as a human being, than some of the hollier than thou politicians we get. Whether or not he will learn form it is something that will have to be seen as until it is it is just conjecture that he will. I can see both side of this argument, as I have no vested interest in either camp, and in the end what will happen will happen and we have to accept it or vote with our money. This too is a good post. this isnt politics and the csm isnt a democracy ccp will do whats best for them , and imo that is the banhammer Would that include the usage of the banhammer on your illegitimate self?
lol if i did something even remotly like this , i would be suspennded already , or banned
|

Kalathia Eginald
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
13
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 22:26:00 -
[2700] - Quote
Lt Pizi wrote:this isnt politics and the csm isnt a democracy
ccp will do whats best for them , and imo that is the banhammer
You are both correct and incorrect in this . He was elected after all, though the company makes it technically a dictatorship.
Yes CCP will do what they see as appropriate, however your opinion of what it should be, and mine as well, is irrelevant to the matter. If he has broken whatever he has to agree to in his position he sould and I think will be sanctioned. However if he hasn't then no sanction shold be implimented. |
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 [90] 100 .. 181 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |