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stoicfaux
835
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:51:00 -
[1981] - Quote
EnderCapitalG wrote:Keep posting. Serious question. Are you a union boss/leader/whip in RL?
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Lexmana
Imperial Stout
296
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:52:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:How can Alex Gianturdco say it was a GÇ£drunken mistakeGÇ¥ when he wrote the whole presentation days in advance, supporting slides, complete with all his typical theatrical bull **** ready to go?
You knew what you were going to say, you knew you were saying it, and you knew what the intent wasGǪGǪGǪGǪGÇ¥make this guyGÇÖs life more miserableGÇ¥GǪGǪ
You should not be representing the players of this game to the world as the CSM Chair or on the CSM. You need to do the right thing and resign. .
You clearly didn't watch it so how come you are making judgements on his behaviour?
He went out of line in a spur of the moment remark after his presentation during Q&A. It was not part of his presentation. |

Lorren Canada
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
223
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:52:00 -
[1983] - Quote
[*] snipe derp |

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1501
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:53:00 -
[1984] - Quote
ExhumeToConsume wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:...he is no longer a fitting representative for the Eve player community and the longer he takes to gather his courage and follow-through with the promised resignation the more harm he continues to do.
Who gave you the right to speak for the "eve player community" oh wall-of-text producer?
Well I could be flippant and say its because I have 40x as many likes as you for genuine posts or I could say its because I watched Fanfest and got the point of the messaging they were putting out (and agreed with it.) I could well say its because I won the CSM elections previously while most have probably never even heard your name.
But ultimately the answer to your question is because I consider myself a member of the eve player community rather than a a member of some other community that just comes here to troll.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |

XxTheKmanxX
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:53:00 -
[1985] - Quote
damn people are still mad about this crap? |

Lorren Canada
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
223
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:53:00 -
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i was really hoping for something special on pg 100 |

Dranchela
Flashpoint Industries
3
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:54:00 -
[1987] - Quote
XxTheKmanxX wrote:damn people are still mad about this crap?
Some people find it difficult to get out of mom's basement. |

Kara Roideater
Perkone Caldari State
91
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:55:00 -
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Lorren Canada wrote:i was really hoping for something special on pg 100
Have a biscuit.
Or a cookie if you're a yank. |

Lenrir Andven
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:55:00 -
[1989] - Quote
Dranchela wrote:XxTheKmanxX wrote:damn people are still mad about this crap? Some people find it difficult to get out of father's basement.
Fixed - Don't be hasty on equality just yet citizen. |

Sky Liddell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
3
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:55:00 -
[1990] - Quote
Snot Shot wrote:How can Alex Gianturdco say it was a GÇ£drunken mistakeGÇ¥ when he wrote the whole presentation days in advance, supporting slides, complete with all his typical theatrical bull **** ready to go?
You knew what you were going to say, you knew you were saying it, and you knew what the intent wasGǪGǪGǪGǪGÇ¥make this guyGÇÖs life more miserableGÇ¥GǪGǪ
You should not be representing the players of this game to the world as the CSM Chair or on the CSM. You need to do the right thing and resign. .
The trouble with that is Suicide in EVE means someone lost a destroyer, someone else lost a hulk. Mittani made a quick EVE reaction to an EVE related event and got hauled in to someone elses personnal life.
He is being thrown under the bus, that is obvious. I don't expect GD to back him up but I am sure Goons will and that's all that matters.
I'm not here to be everyones friend. I'm here to pick a few and make them count. The rest of you can go to hell. CSM took that out of EVE. Alex Gianturdco can go back to being a Goon now and not being a poster boy for EVE. I'd say he comes out ahead on this one. |
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Lenrir Andven
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:56:00 -
[1991] - Quote
Kara Roideater wrote:Lorren Canada wrote:i was really hoping for something special on pg 100 Have a biscuit. Or a cookie if you're a yank.
Could use one of those jaffa cakes right about now, with a cup of tea. |

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1506
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:57:00 -
[1992] - Quote
Snot Shot wrote:How can Alex Gianturdco say it was a GÇ£drunken mistakeGÇ¥ when he wrote the whole presentation days in advance, supporting slides, complete with all his typical theatrical bull **** ready to go?
You knew what you were going to say, you knew you were saying it, and you knew what the intent wasGǪGǪGǪGǪGÇ¥make this guyGÇÖs life more miserableGÇ¥GǪGǪ
You should not be representing the players of this game to the world as the CSM Chair or on the CSM. You need to do the right thing and resign. .
The "drunken mistake" was his ad-libbing of the material on the slide. He got egged on (or just blithered on) into saying things he hadn't prepared earlier. I'm prepared to believe that he didn't intend everything he did to happen in advance, but all in all it doesn't excuse what he did. You simply can't have a CSM chair and representative of the Eve community who can't hold their drink and acts like that in front of the cameras at fanfest. So my take - sure, he has to resign, but the apology here gets him a second chance as an eve player alongside the rest of us.
His punishment really is the destruction of his professional and gaming-media reputation.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |

Benilopax
The Ashen Lion Syndicate
245
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:57:00 -
[1993] - Quote
Jesus two 100 page + threads!
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Snot Shot
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
74
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:58:00 -
[1994] - Quote
Strathcaron wrote:Being CSM chariman is more than giving order to 8000 own alliance grunts. He needs to represent ALL players, including their ingame enemies. That kind of offenses, insults or acts, needs to be punished.
I dont like mittani, but i respect his faggotry on local, forums and jabber broadcasts. He can insult and harrass enemies. BUT i cant respect a guy in RL that is representing the players, not the toons, and see how he say that bullshit about a guy. Doesnt matter if he hast 1 or 10k votes. We/You didnt vote mittani. Voted Alexander Gianturco, a guy who drunk, in public, on a live stream, said stuff that can be prosecuted at least in 26 european countries. And that guy pretends now represent the eve community in front CCP.
No way. This is not about the mittani, is about Alexander Gianturco and he MUST resign. An apollogy its fine for his own conscience, but that doesnt relieve of guilt. Next time, think about what are you going to say, think before what are you going to do.
+1 GÇ£God grant me the serenity to accept the things I canGÇÖt shoot, the courage to shoot the things I can, and the wisdom to GTFO!!GÇ¥GÇô Snot Shot - 2012.....Yeah I'm a killin machine..... http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=50753
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XxTheKmanxX
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:58:00 -
[1995] - Quote
Dranchela wrote:XxTheKmanxX wrote:damn people are still mad about this crap? Some people find it difficult to get out of mom's basement.
no crap, but now im catching up on 50 pages of tears and people making no sense.. 100 pages later the point is still the same, a political person made a mistake, what political power hasn't made a mistake. |

Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
434
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:58:00 -
[1996] - Quote
XxTheKmanxX wrote:damn people are still mad about this crap?
No trying to encoruage people to kill themselves doesn't matter does it 
You guys still counter posting seem to fail to realise this is well beyond 'forum PvP'
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

JTK Fotheringham
Resurrected Darkness
20
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:00:00 -
[1997] - Quote
Benilopax wrote:Jesus two 100 page + threads!
The Mittani wrote:
deal with it~
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Marcus Shamonomonom
University of Caille Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:00:00 -
[1998] - Quote
Snot Shot wrote:How can Alex Gianturdco say it was a GÇ£drunken mistakeGÇ¥ when he wrote the whole presentation days in advance, supporting slides, complete with all his typical theatrical bull **** ready to go?
You knew what you were going to say, you knew you were saying it, and you knew what the intent wasGǪGǪGǪGǪGÇ¥make this guyGÇÖs life more miserableGÇ¥GǪGǪ
You should not be representing the players of this game to the world as the CSM Chair or on the CSM. You need to do the right thing and resign. .
It wasn't during his presentation, it was during the open Q & A after. |

Dranchela
Flashpoint Industries
5
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:00:00 -
[1999] - Quote
Lenrir Andven wrote:Dranchela wrote:XxTheKmanxX wrote:damn people are still mad about this crap? Some people find it difficult to get out of father's basement. Fixed - Don't be hasty on equality just yet citizen.
Thank you, Comrade. |

ExhumeToConsume
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:02:00 -
[2000] - Quote
Jade Constantine wrote:ExhumeToConsume wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:...he is no longer a fitting representative for the Eve player community and the longer he takes to gather his courage and follow-through with the promised resignation the more harm he continues to do.
Who gave you the right to speak for the "eve player community" oh wall-of-text producer? Well I could be flippant and say its because I have 40x as many likes as you for genuine posts or I could say its because I watched Fanfest and got the point of the messaging they were putting out (and agreed with it.) I could well say its because I won the CSM elections previously while most have probably never even heard your name. But ultimately the answer to your question is because I consider myself a member of the eve player community rather than a a member of some other community that just comes here to troll.
So post count makes you an eve player representative? Or is it (former) CSM membership? Doesn't that argument mean that The Mittani actually speaks for the *current* playerbase?
The final paragraph gives it away though. You think you speak for the players because, well, you think you speak for the players. |
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Kaivar Lancer
General Exports
136
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:02:00 -
[2001] - Quote
I don't think you Goon defenders actually realise the stakes at play. Do you think CCP will risk millions of dollars just to keep Goons happy? Suppose one day somebody actually does blow their brains out after being cyber-bullied on Eve Online. Not only are you going to have lawyers, police and politicians smashing down your door in self-righteous anger, but all that negative publicity will kill your brand and any projects associated with it. This isn't just about Eve. This is also about Dust, World of Darkness and everything else up CCP's sleeve. Do you honestly think the CEO of CCP will risk his entire company just to appease a handful of asshats?
Risk management. Mittani is a liability to CCP's bottomline. Deal with it. |

Del Vikus
Gradient Electus Matari
2
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:03:00 -
[2002] - Quote
Thank you for your apology. I think it was sincere.
However, I think those who doubt your sincerity are speaking from a place of "earned mistrust." You have not done very much to endear yourself, and your flippant and dismissive comments earlier have put you into an inherently defensive position.
Assuming you are not removed as CSM chair, I'd like to suggest you remember this incident and use it productively in your leadership role. Your words matter to a lot of people, and braggadoccio and bluster will do more to alienate than to endear. |

Lera Lotus
FireStar Inc Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:03:00 -
[2003] - Quote
After reading a bunch of posts on forum, http://liangnuren.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/the-mittani-hero/ and http://jestertrek.blogspot.de/2012/03/hats.html my conclusion is that even if I do not like The Mittens or Goons, it was stupid to day I still do NOT think he should step down.
To be quite honest this is going a bit overboard... Jita riot?! *bah*
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Ni'ark
Parnassius Corporation Inception Alliance
13
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:03:00 -
[2004] - Quote
I was there. -First thread in ship and modules-First whine thread in ship and modules-First locked thread in ship and modules and new eve-o forums. |

THE L0CK
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
84
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:03:00 -
[2005] - Quote
2000!
Edit ****! Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |

Master Andrew
Hell's Revenge Fidelas Constans
17
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:04:00 -
[2006] - Quote
Lenrir Andven wrote:Kara Roideater wrote:Lorren Canada wrote:i was really hoping for something special on pg 100 Have a biscuit. Or a cookie if you're a yank. Could use one of those jaffa cakes right about now, with a cup of tea.
hmmmmm Jaffa cakes ----- \o/
but its too hot for tea - how about a milkshake - all the boys can come to my yard
best post in about 98 pages of this thread ty |

Dranchela
Flashpoint Industries
5
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:04:00 -
[2007] - Quote
Professor Alphane wrote:XxTheKmanxX wrote:damn people are still mad about this crap? No trying to encoruage people to kill themselves doesn't matter does it  You guys still counter posting seem to fail to realise this is well beyond 'forum PvP'
This didn't go beyond forum PVP, Professor. This was someone doing what a drunk person does: say stupid s**t. He came back, he apologized and unlike some people, it appears that The Mittani AND the "victim" in question have moved on.
Get it? Moved on. Acted like adults, talked it out.
Try it some time. You will be required to endure daylight at some point, however. |

stoicfaux
836
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:05:00 -
[2008] - Quote
XxTheKmanxX wrote: no crap, but now im catching up on 50 pages of tears and people making no sense.. 100 pages later the point is still the same, a political person made a mistake, what political power hasn't made a mistake.
When a politician makes a slip of the tongue, it generally affects just the politician. In this case, it could affect CCP's business (e.g. the Dust/Sony partnership.)
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Karim alRashid
Aliastra Gallente Federation
126
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:05:00 -
[2009] - Quote
Marcus Shamonomonom wrote:Geez, is this still going on? I hope a lot of you folk die.
We all will, eventually.  |

JTK Fotheringham
Resurrected Darkness
22
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:06:00 -
[2010] - Quote
Marcus Shamonomonom wrote:Snot Shot wrote:How can Alex Gianturdco say it was a GÇ£drunken mistakeGÇ¥ when he wrote the whole presentation days in advance, supporting slides, complete with all his typical theatrical bull **** ready to go?
You knew what you were going to say, you knew you were saying it, and you knew what the intent wasGǪGǪGǪGǪGÇ¥make this guyGÇÖs life more miserableGÇ¥GǪGǪ
You should not be representing the players of this game to the world as the CSM Chair or on the CSM. You need to do the right thing and resign. . It wasn't during his presentation, it was during the open Q & A after.
The Q&A comment was built on a part of his presentation - where he posted the Mac pilot's mail about his marriage ending, and about him feeling everything was going pear-shaped in his life. The Q&A comment was "You can actually put this guy over the edge - just spam him telling him to do it."
Let's agree to simply refer to both the presentation and the following Q&A as one event.
The point is, as our elected representative, calling for people to join in this sort of out-of-game griefing / cyberbullying was a bad error of judgement, and he needs to resign. |
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