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Apo Lamperouge
Priests of the Temples of Syrinx Inc.
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Posted - 2013.09.05 11:21:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:If you are going to do this then you will also need to split off the XL gun into a category used by Dreadnaughts and Titans. Otherwise the Dreads will be inadvertently nerfed.
And would that also affect our POS guns?
Affecting dreads would kinda screw up the wormhole guys. If we had even more problems targeting sleepers with big guns, the whole sleeper thing (well in c5s) would be ruined
Just sayin Sometimes a knife right through your heart is exactly what you need. |
El Scotch
Eighty Joule Brewery Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.12 20:08:00 -
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Fix the Leviathan's high slots; 7 weapon mounts vs 6 for all the rest is a foolish anachronism. |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.17 16:37:00 -
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El Scotch wrote:Fix the Leviathan's high slots; 7 weapon mounts vs 6 for all the rest is a foolish anachronism. Leviathan's issues with its weapon system go beyond just hardpoint layout. And I expect that to be addressed not before aforementioned capital revamp... |
Gondola Jones
Prometheus Resources
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Posted - 2013.10.05 17:09:00 -
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bump? necro? still no changes? |
sir Theador
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.11 07:02:00 -
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ok after thinking about this for a wile I realize that the whole titan blobs of death problem can be solved with out getting anyone too upset. next expansion the titans should go back to the way they were, that is, the nerff on the guns damage to small targets that ccp put in effect last expansion should be lifted. to prevent titan blobs of death ccp should give us a module that makes sub cap ships immune to the big guns. this module would be something like a deflective shield that redirects the massive incoming energy pulse around the small signature radius. I would suggest the modal fit in a high slot. this would allow titans to rat and do the other things they used to do wile keeping them form over stepping there role in fleet battles in this particular area.
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Capt Under
Starlight Holdings Starlight Inception.
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:23:00 -
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Use Titans to terraform and colonize planets in Worm hole space/new star clusters or something similar to the movie Titan A.E. Need one titan for each new planet. Once deployed the titan become space junk and can never be used again. Go watch the movie Titan A.E. for some inspiration what the new Titan role could be like: Titan A.E. Trailer
This new colonized planet then give you enough PI materials from which you can build alliance and/or faction owned mobile refinery, factory, cloning and warp gate structures around the planet. The mobile warp gate can only connect to other WH systems within that star cluster (not new eden). These "new" alliance owned structures should cost the same as an outpost but can be destroyed..
To conquer one of these colonized planets you need to use dust514 mercs and then another titan to claim it. Rince and repeat. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.12.04 16:02:00 -
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In Titan A.E. they had a specific ship called Titan that was capable of traveling a great distance. They needed to use that ship not to colonize, but to arrive. Since it was big, it could also carry everything they needed.
Sort of like an EVE Industrial with its big cargo bay and warp drive. Probably holds hundreds of people, too. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |
Rainbow Dash
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.12.15 15:32:00 -
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Just remove supercaps. Isk refund the BPOs, no refund for the hulls. You sink a ton of minerals and get rid of a huge balance issue at the same time. |
Bobinu
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.12.17 14:02:00 -
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How about a Titan amnesty, all Alliances agree not to use them....muhahaha!
What if there was a limit of how many Titans per Grid / System? Not that I agree with this idea, someone else's idea of limited the amount of Titans, to balance the fight.
Cant remember who said it, be nice for Titans to have a clear defined role.
Maybe like an Incursion modifier for non fleet ships!!
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Some kick ass fleet bonus's (maybe even fleet dps)
Sorry to bring up a previous comment, I looked at the equation for Turrets, excuse my stupidity but range is factor'd in twice for the to hit chance, is it not given enough significance within the equation?
Maybe to prevent BS (sub caps etc) being hit by Big guns there is a firing delay or ROF penalty based on Range vs Sig radius (unmodified) so shooting small ships is a bad choice for Supers, something along the lines of the Targeting computer needs exptra time to calculate the variables.
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Misaka Todako
Close Proximity
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Posted - 2013.12.19 06:03:00 -
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I honestly don't believe capital weapons are a threat to subcaps right now. If there is a BR that indicates otherwise, I'd be interested in seeing it. However it should be difficult if not impossible for a titan to be effective against an orbiting BS with the tracking speed on capital weapons.
To be clear, I'm not arguing that capital guns need buffed; simply that further nerfs aren't necessary. Titan "death blobs" haven't been a thing for a while. |
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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.12.29 11:49:00 -
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Misaka Todako wrote:I honestly don't believe capital weapons are a threat to subcaps right now. If there is a BR that indicates otherwise, I'd be interested in seeing it. However it should be difficult if not impossible for a titan to be effective against an orbiting BS with the tracking speed on capital weapons.
To be clear, I'm not arguing that capital guns need buffed; simply that further nerfs aren't necessary. Titan "death blobs" haven't been a thing for a while. Doesn't matter that it has not been-a-thing for a while .. if it is possible then further tweaks are warranted. Capitals of all sizes should be the proverbial sitting ducks when up against sub-capitals, bringing support should not be optional but mandatory.
Side note: Unsticky this thread and take it up again if/when null gets the overhaul that makes denizens want/need to bleed on an hourly/daily basis rather than only in the weekend blob. It should simply not be possible to outright ignore rampaging enemies within ones borders, if that means screwing with peoples inherent xenophobia then so be it. |
sir Theador
Gambit Enterprise
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Posted - 2014.01.10 21:54:00 -
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We are thinking about this problem wrong. I strongly disagree with diminishing the super caps capabilities. that's only a little better than getting rid of the capital ships all together. the titan is the most expensive ship in the game. it needs fire power and defenses to reflect that. if there are titan blobs of 50 coming to blast you to space dust, your fighting someone with almost limitless resources. The ship is not so much the problem as the income of the people flying them. If we nerf the titan based on one problem involving mega alliances and massive fleet battles your creating all sorts of problems for corps and individuals who use the titans for other tasks and activities.
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Misaka Todako
Close Proximity
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Posted - 2014.01.17 01:42:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:Doesn't matter that it has not been-a-thing for a while .. if it is possible then further tweaks are warranted. Capitals of all sizes should be the proverbial sitting ducks when up against sub-capitals, bringing support should not be optional but mandatory. No, that's my point.
That already IS the case, and has been for ages. People claiming otherwise are citing events that happened many many patches ago and simply don't occur anymore. Tracking titans don't currently exist because they don't work.
But hey, that's ok! Titan guns are likely getting another 5% tracking nerf with Fozzie's upcoming balance changes, because titans hadn't been nerfed enough yet.
Seriously, every change to titans since october 2011 (ie when drone bays were removed and the DD was limited to capitals) has been a nerf. Non-stop.
Titans haven't been good in combat since that patch hit, and CCP has continually shown no interest in giving them a new role to replace it. |
Admiral Snowbird
Kriegsmarinewerft Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.20 23:49:00 -
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Seriously the Titans are still too strong but that will be balanced in the winter expansion with the new mobile jump portal generator!
And why the heck Titans should be in combat - they are logistic ships! |
Tiberu Stundrif
Repercussus RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.04 05:57:00 -
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Misaka Todako wrote:Titans haven't been good in combat since that patch hit, and CCP has continually shown no interest in giving them a new role to replace it.
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Atomeon
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.09 01:46:00 -
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Seems like the DD is problem. You cant find a solution to balanced. A Nice balance could be to add a debuff that DD cant "hit" the same ship in a short of time again (something near 3mins). To capital ships stays as it is and adding the 3mins debuff it sould be ok. When DD affects subcaps it cpuld damage 1/2 of its current Shield and Armor, so it could not alpha them a pair of DD (dont forget the 3min "immunity to DD again).
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Syri Taneka
NOVA-CAINE
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Posted - 2014.03.22 06:16:00 -
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Misaka Todako wrote:Titans haven't been good in combat since that patch hit, and CCP has continually shown no interest in giving them a new role to replace it.
Titans' primary role should never have been combat. The old grid-wide DD was an insipidly stupid game breaker (disco DD 4 titans and everything subcap is wrecks, absolutely guaranteed). In terms of damage output, they are an un-sieged Dreadnought, but they cost over 40x as much so why would anyone ever use them that way?
Titans are mobile jump gates with non-fixed destinations. Light a cyno, jump a fleet up to 7.875 light years in an eyeblink. For S&G, they can also be deployed to gank lone or un(der)supported carriers and Rorquals, though not without risk of being caught.
The capital-only DD will one-shot a carrier, dread, or Rorq, outside of very rare and expensive edge cases. Due to this and the obscene killing power + survivability of Supercarriers and Titans, I have long since stopped fielding light capitals (IE carriers) in fleet battles. My carrier is a glorified ship transport and POS repairer, only ever having fun when it gets to assign fighters for gate camps while chilling well off-grid, and CCP wants to take that away, too. |
Akira Sithon
Sojourn Complex
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:31:00 -
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I personally cannot pilot Titans, nevertheless I understand that they need to be buffed. As an endgame veterans tool, they should be able to do respectable damage against smaller targets (albeit not without the assistance of target painters + modules). Capital-sized turrets on Titans should be able to do a small AoE field of Damage that would deal 25% of the hits value in around a 10km area - the purpose of this is to give titans a legitimate and balanced way to deal with what the commmunity has termed "Goon-tactics". With how much a Titan means as an investment both to train for and to actually attain, it should have some way to fight back against people that have just started playing the game and/or just enjoy Goon-tactics. Thank you for your time. |
Akira Sithon
Sojourn Complex
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:37:00 -
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Another Idea is to Give Titans a boost in terms of Capital Smart Bomb range and damage... somewhere around 30km for range with a +5% in dmg boost per Titan skill level |
Arronicus
Ravens' Nest Outlaw Horizon.
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:05:00 -
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Akira Sithon wrote:I personally cannot pilot Titans, nevertheless I understand that they need to be buffed. As an endgame veterans tool, they should be able to do respectable damage against smaller targets (albeit not without the assistance of target painters + modules). Capital-sized turrets on Titans should be able to do a small AoE field of Damage that would deal 25% of the hits value in around a 10km area - the purpose of this is to give titans a legitimate and balanced way to deal with what the commmunity has termed "Goon-tactics". With how much a Titan means as an investment both to train for and to actually attain, it should have some way to fight back against people that have just started playing the game and/or just enjoy Goon-tactics. Thank you for your time.
I'm not sure if this is a joke, satire, or a completely honest opinion. I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt, assuming it's the latter.
Over the past 6 1/2 years that I have played, often making a hobby of keeping myself informed through the forums, dev blogs, and insights gained through patchnotes, it has been incredibly clear, that CCP has been continually trying to reduce the viability of supercapitals, that is, supercarriers, AND titans, against sub capital ships over, and over, and over. Part of this I believe stems from a viewpoint that one ship should not sit on top of the pvp triangle, decimating everything under it, and part from the fact that titans are becoming so wide-spread, so affordable, that they are no longer a massive group investment. Titans have reached the point in EvE's bloated economy, where they are affordable to a fairly wide demographic of wealthier players.
As such, while they may, or may not need to be buffed for their role, I believe it is important that any buffs given, should only accentuate that role, group logistics, and anti-capital/anti-structure warfare. Titans should have to rely on support fleets, they should not sit on top of a hill, impervious to smaller ship attacks, which is why the AoE doomsday was taken away. Titans could simply aoe their way out of any scenario with a small group of them together on the field, and I think the suggestions that you make, to either giving them massive smartbombs with ridiculous ranges, or guns that can blap interceptors (Titan fires at a large target right when an interceptor is within 10km of that target, bam, interceptor is dead) would be a monumental step backward, making titans ridiculous sub capital killing machines once more.
What ever the solution is for titans, I strongly feel that it is not in the form of AoE damage tactics that will allow titans to wipe the field with ease once more.
PS, let's consider if they were granted your aoe guns suggestion. 20 titans, is not an absurd number for a large alliance to field. As it stands, that is about what, 11k dps per titan, ballpark, assuming they have tanks fit. So, 220k dps, with their guns alone. Now, when you cyno in, you drop in as a blob, around the cyno. Bouncing still occurs, something that happens quite often, though nothing like it used to be. So, These 20 titans, drop next to a group of 60 supercarriers, that have just cyno'd in, and are in a fairly tight pack. With the changes to drone damage coming up, we'll put down the supercarriers at 10k dps each, for a group dps of 600k. So, obviously the supercarriers should win, right? But wait. Those 20 titans, with each shot, are going to hit, every. single. supercarrier, for 25% of the damage to their target. So their damage is going to be multiplied (1 + (59*0.25)) = 15.75. Each titan will be doing 1575% damage, because of that aoe damage. In effect, the group of 20 titans, will now be doing 3,465k dps to the super carriers, and what's more, the more supercarriers present, the more dreads, and whatever else, the more that titan dps goes up. Now, as if that's not ridiculous enough, if the common reader can't already see how this is an insanely bad idea, what happens the moment any of the supercarriers try to deploy fighter bombers? With the constant onslaught of capital weapon fire on them, splashing for 55k dps worth of splash damage per volley, anything the supercarriers launch will instantly be rendered back into the atoms the universe is made of. But that's an interesting thought, isn't it. That titans would not only **** supercarriers, but that they would render them completely lame, because the moment the super deployed its own armanents, those drones would just pop, to that AoE damage. Just the same way a group of titans all pulsing mega smartbombs would be carrier and super carrier, not to mention bomber, and any other missile boat IMMUNE.
I feel like these suggestions were given no real thought when they were made... |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.05.20 21:30:00 -
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As It has run it course for quite a while now, this thread gets a lock. With the approval of the OP I might add. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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