dreads are vastly easier to kill, and as such are much more balanced by default.

If cynos were given mass limits, most of the "problems" people have with supercaps become non-issues. It doesn't matter how much EHP a titan has, as long as his 300 friends can't come and save him within 5 minutes from the other side of EVE. It doesn't matter how good a titan is at blapping subcaps, as long as you're only fighting one of them and not a blob of 300.

Titans need a revamp of their roles. That's neither a buff nor a nerf. One role they could fill is as the counter to subcap blobs. Give them tracking bonuses for blapping, and make the doomsday more like a giant smartbomb. Balance wise this clearly won't work unless cyno mechanics are simultaneously addressed. If cynos were given mass limits, most of the "problems" people have with supercaps become non-issues. It doesn't matter how much EHP a titan has, as long as his 300 friends can't come and save him within 5 minutes from the other side of EVE. It doesn't matter how good a titan is at blapping subcaps, as long as you're only fighting one of them and not a blob of 300.

The above poster makes good points.

Tians are two things: DD, and bridge. The DD is an obviously broken mechanic from so many perspectives. Why should the chance of getting instapopped increase as you go from a battleship to a carrier? And for the titan pilot, is it really satisfying PVP to hit a single button and see a single enemy explode? The DD can't even be used for drivebys (without a POS in system) or self defense. Broken. The bridge is a useful logistical tool, and without it mega coalitions wouldn't be able to grow so large, but you would think the most expensive (non collector's) ship in EVE would have a more glorified role than bridging guys around from the safety of a tower, with the only risk coming from misclicking the jump button, leading to probable death.

Titans need a revamp of their roles. That's neither a buff nor a nerf. One role they could fill is as the counter to subcap blobs. Give them tracking bonuses for blapping, and make the doomsday more like a giant smartbomb. Balance wise this clearly won't work unless cyno mechanics are simultaneously addressed. If cynos were given mass limits, most of the "problems" people have with supercaps become non-issues. It doesn't matter how much EHP a titan has, as long as his 300 friends can't come and save him within 5 minutes from the other side of EVE. It doesn't matter how good a titan is at blapping subcaps, as long as you're only fighting one of them and not a blob of 300.

Confirming that with enough money, anyone can pay to win in Eve. Introducing the Titan.

For a more strategic role, the DD could be limited to only work against structures.

The above poster makes good points.

Tians are two things: DD, and bridge. The DD is an obviously broken mechanic from so many perspectives. Why should the chance of getting instapopped increase as you go from a battleship to a carrier? And for the titan pilot, is it really satisfying PVP to hit a single button and see a single enemy explode? The DD can't even be used for drivebys (without a POS in system) or self defense. Broken. The bridge is a useful logistical tool, and without it mega coalitions wouldn't be able to grow so large, but you would think the most expensive (non collector's) ship in EVE would have a more glorified role than bridging guys around from the safety of a tower, with the only risk coming from misclicking the jump button, leading to probable death.

Titans need a revamp of their roles. That's neither a buff nor a nerf. One role they could fill is as the counter to subcap blobs. Give them tracking bonuses for blapping, and make the doomsday more like a giant smartbomb. Balance wise this clearly won't work unless cyno mechanics are simultaneously addressed. If cynos were given mass limits, most of the "problems" people have with supercaps become non-issues. It doesn't matter how much EHP a titan has, as long as his 300 friends can't come and save him within 5 minutes from the other side of EVE. It doesn't matter how good a titan is at blapping subcaps, as long as you're only fighting one of them and not a blob of 300.

DD can't hit structures intentionally, otherwise you could nuke a tower or station in literally seconds, which completely breaks sov mechanics.

The titanGÇÖs original abilities were fine at the beginning of the game because of the number of them in the game. The super weapon was not overpowered because in most fleet battles there was only one titan. The problem came when there were 3-10 of them.
Tec 2 titans would not be overpowered because nobody would be able to afford more than one or two for a while.

If people are losing subcaps to a Titan, they are not moving. It's kind of their fault.

It's almost certainly outside the scope for a near-future patch, but revisting Clone vats is definitely on the list for giving titans a non-combat frontline role. Consider this:

a) Scrap the current clone-installation method for clone vats. Make it so that they no longer contain jump clones in their current form. Remove the 'max clone limit' too.
b) Prevent use of Clone Vat Bay inside a starbase shield.
c) Allow pilots to instantly clone-jump from a station to an active clone vat module on a ship in the same fleet as them, appearing in a pod next to the capital ship. This jump is not affected by jump clone timers or the player's max jump clone limit.
d) Change the Clone Vat skill to affect how many people can use the module per cycle, so it is worth skilling up. E.g. 10 people per cycle at level 1, up to 50 people per cycle at level 5.
e) Increase Titan SMA capacity by at least 100% so that they can hold substantial numbers of spare ships for people cloning into a fight.

Don't worry, they'll get back to this thread for tiericiding supercaps.