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Lenrir Andven
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:14:00 -
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Dar Saleem wrote:Lenrir Andven wrote:-Facepalm-
We had this planned the moment we hit 10k votes.
This interdiction was no 'knee-jerk' reaction to the Mittani being punished. Cripes. So let me get this straight you had this planned out, but yoy have buy / make 1800 tornado's ? I would sack you planner as he forgot something important
Goons? Plan?
I think by now you should understand all our plans is normally done over a snack of tea and crumpets. |
knobber Jobbler
135
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:19:00 -
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Ur235 wrote:I would imagine they are plalning to throw a few hundred wardecs in aswell against corps and alliances around Jita they have the money for it
You could probably put an "indefinite" into that statement. |
Keen Fallsword
The Scope Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:23:00 -
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We dont need jita ! Let it burn.. Who cares.. You guys are making too much nosie about ****.. Go play game !! |
Lenrir Andven
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
75
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:26:00 -
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Keen Fallsword wrote:We dont need jita ! Let it burn.. Who cares.. You guys are making too much nosie about ****.. Go play game !!
The several hundred traders, marketers and speculators would like to have a word with you. |
knobber Jobbler
135
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:29:00 -
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Keen Fallsword wrote:We dont need jita ! Let it burn.. Who cares.. You guys are making too much nosie about ****.. Go play game !!
You're correct. So l'm going to suggest that the other CFC alliances go and camp in the other major trade hubs.
Its a real shame that the old mission hubs are no longer in operation as Motsu would have been the centre of pubbie grief. |
Temulkar Blaine
Liberation Army BricK sQuAD.
53
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:35:00 -
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Obviously the Goons burn jita campaign will create excellent game content. Whether thats splitting the market up, Highsec players ganging together for defense fleets or whatever it will make for some fun play.
Concord should war dec the goons for the illegal assault on the trade hub of course. Or would that be CCP intefering |
marVLs
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:40:00 -
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Goons making now even worse all that crap are like kids, pathetic behavior that will be remembered in history of EVE, even now everyone in EVE are laughting at goons
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Sponge Blib
13
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:41:00 -
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This campaign may mean that I'll actually see some Time dilation going on. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
114
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:08:00 -
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Temulkar Blaine wrote:Concord should war dec the goons for the illegal assault on the trade hub of course. Or would that be CCP intefering I cannot see that as happening. CONCORD did not decide that Jita is a hub, it's a completely capsuleer-driven thing. For all we know CONCORD might be just fine with all of us taking our business away from there, as policing Jita as it is must be a huge time and resource sink for their police force, both in space and on those seedy trade stations. ;) |
Nair Alderau
EVE University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:27:00 -
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Why would they interfere?
As long as it's just griefing by using in-game-mechanics, they have no reason to. |
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Jame Jarl Retief
Corps Diplomatique Terrestrienne
21
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:29:00 -
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I don't think CCP would have any problems at all with the whole Jita burning thing, as long as it is done without exploiting. Most players will simply switch to the nearest safe hub. Heck, I trade in Hek, the price difference on most items isn't worth the trip to Jita. |
Kibbolski
Terra Rosa Militia SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:32:00 -
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Vince Snetterton wrote:Plus, as others stated, while they burn Jita who is protecting their turf.
Let me tell you about alts and jump clones. They're truly amazing, you might've heard about them. |
Deamos
Dev Null Development and Holdings
112
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:32:00 -
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Jame Jarl Retief wrote:I don't think CCP would have any problems at all with the whole Jita burning thing, as long as it is done without exploiting. Most players will simply switch to the nearest safe hub. Heck, I trade in Hek, the price difference on most items isn't worth the trip to Jita.
Depending on the level of grief, they can and have banned even if they use ingame mechanics. Look at what happened to Zombie after to Yulai incident. |
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
77
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:34:00 -
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Imminent goon attack on Jita is an awesome thing. Good player driven content, good fun for all.
Just think, a bunch of goons show up to blast away at all the unwary. A bunch of anti-goon folk are sure to show up .. possibly some new WarDecs.
Lots of shooting, ships exploding ... a good time will be had by all!
Nothing clever at this time. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
463
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:42:00 -
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I say just avoid Jita on the day.
Deny them kills.
Those Blue Balls will be HIGH-LARIOUS. OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
Vangelios
Hedion University Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:52:00 -
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What I don't understand is 30 day prior notice. That will reduce impact of such operation on large scale. However I believe in possibility that this is just a disinformation for another much larger scale event or something that is not expected. ...-áEach small candle Lights a corner of the dark... |
Norian Lonark
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
25
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:55:00 -
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Nick Bison wrote:Imminent goon attack on Jita is an awesome thing. Good player driven content, good fun for all.
Just think, a bunch of goons show up to blast away at all the unwary. A bunch of anti-goon folk are sure to show up .. possibly some new WarDecs.
Lots of shooting, ships exploding ... a good time will be had by all!
This. Its what EVE is. Its the sandbox in action, stopping it would go against the fundamental concept. I think CCP will love it. This sort of press is what gets people interested in eve that player driven events like this actually happen. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
119
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:55:00 -
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Vangelios wrote:What I don't understand is 30 day prior notice. That will reduce impact of such operation on large scale. Only if you count impact by number of ships exploded. If you count it by reputation (which in the end is what matters in EVE), Goons have already probably gotten more of that than they could have by a surprise attack in a month after all the noise has died down.
Whatever Goons are, they are not daft about keeping up their reputation.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
463
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:00:00 -
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I want Jita stopped as a major hub as well.
But the Goons doing it just sounds like............they do not deserve to be the ones to do it anymore. OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
273
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:10:00 -
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Vila eNorvic wrote:Aiden Andraste wrote:CCP overreacted in their decision to completely nullify 10000 player opinions. Nope - the candidate the 10000 players voted for did that of his own volition.
CCP has over-reacted. There was no malicious intent, just poor choice of wording.
Are we required by the TOS to report every threat of Murder / Suicide now? If so, I'd like a right-click [report player as Homicidal/Suicidal] button please. People lie about this kind of crap frequently, and I think many of you out there don't believe that, but it's true.
"Because apparently Eve-O thinks it's perfectly acceptable behaviour to threaten to commit suicide over a video game in order to make people feel bad about killing or scamming you, but if you laugh at that person for being a ret@rded drama queen, then you are literally Hit|er." - Jafit ( Dreddit-á - Test Alliance Please Ignore ) |
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Lenrir Andven
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
80
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:11:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I want Jita stopped as a major hub as well.
But the Goons doing it just sounds like............they do not deserve to be the ones to do it anymore.
So you are mad that we are coming up with creative ideas while you wallow in our shadow? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
463
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:13:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:
There was no malicious intent
LIE OF THE YEAR IN EVE OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
463
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:14:00 -
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Lenrir Andven wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I want Jita stopped as a major hub as well.
But the Goons doing it just sounds like............they do not deserve to be the ones to do it anymore. So you are mad that we are coming up with creative ideas while you wallow in our shadow?
The idea of shuttling down Jita is hardly new.......much less creative. OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
Aranakas
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
124
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:17:00 -
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I'll set my buy order for an assload of frigates.
Blow me up: Whoops, you lost a Tornado to melt a Rifter. Don't blow me up: Lol, failcamp. |
Minabunny
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:18:00 -
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I would rather choose another system out of the hundreds there are to play in the day of the Jita tantrum. The only thing this little escapade is going to accomplish is enforce how juvenile Goon and it's alliance members truly are. I would hope your enemies would take action on this day and invade your space. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1205
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:19:00 -
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I fully support Burn Jita. It's an idea I've harbored for some time myself (I have another name for it) and regret never having the influence and money to be the one to make it happen. Mine would not have come with any warning, though.
edit: even though I support it, there's a good chance I'll be there that day to ***** onto some Concord killmails with a rack of target painters. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
122
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:19:00 -
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Quote:CCP has over-reacted. There was no malicious intent, just poor choice of wording. Of course there was malicious intent. There might not have been an intent for the guy to actually shoot himself, but there definitely was an intent to use the stagetime to make Mittani/Goons feel glorious about themselves by ridiculing this guy. And that's malicious, even if you intend it as a joke.
Quote:Are we required by the TOS to report every threat of Murder / Suicide now? If so, I'd like a right-click [report player as Homicidal/Suicidal] button please. People lie about this kind of crap frequently, and I think many of you out there don't believe that, but it's true. You are not required, you are allowed (as before).
However, what I would be really careful about is answering such threats verbally, unless you actually want to do so to try and help the other guy. As part of banter, I'd end it when anyone takes it there. Then again, I always thought this was a good policy, so no problems for me there. |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
61
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:26:00 -
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JTK Fotheringham wrote:About "Burn Jita" - it'll be amusing. But Jita isn't CCP's hub of choice - it was player made because it became the centre for T2 trade when T2 was introduced. CCP just reinforce the node there because of the traffic. The Goons plan will therefore fail - either because a new Hub will emerge, or trade will move to nearby systems temporarily and return to Jita once the Goons run out of steam, or need to return to protect vulnerable 0.0 space. They can't be in two places at once. Others have commented on and said the same things I am going to. I don't think any goon actually thinks that a permanent, or even long term camp of jita to an extent is possible. In terms of a new gallente hub, I imagine it would be Motsu which was pretty big prior to agent changes for the L4 runners. Post that, Osmon really has a huge possibility of being a new hub being close and other things that make it a significant subsystem. I think the ideal outcome from a gameplay idea would be a change in system, hopefully, ccp thinks this as well and is prepared for the hardware changes to how the systems server node to do this.
That of course was one of two only concerns I had with the issue. How much effort or problems would be caused if traffic moved from the jita server node to somewhere else? Second would be, like I said earlier, from a pirate event and making it directed at specific players. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1384
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:29:00 -
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CCP shouldn't and I seriously doubt they will take any action against anything GSF want's to do in game including the "Burn Jita" initiative. It is all part of the sandbox. Something EvE is built upon and CCP pride themselves for.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
61
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:30:00 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Stuff Wrong thread, that discussion is elsewhere. This thread is about the effects of a Jita burn only. Effects good/bad and support, have any comments on that?
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