Will CCP act against the Burn Jita campaign on day 1? No.

Will CCP act against the prolonged campaign of Burn Jita? Probably.

Why would they? Because continued grieving and or disruption of other players game experience is frowned upon if not covered by the GM governance framework.

Funny audiolog.

So basically The Mittani is pissed because he was banned for 30 days and wants to destroy Jita as revenge? To "test the waters" if CCP interferes? I really want to see how that will work out...

Funny audiolog.

So basically The Mittani is pissed because he was banned for 30 days and wants to destroy Jita as revenge? To "test the waters" if CCP interferes? I really want to see how that will work out...

I know, maybe ccp should give all you pubs some t2 bpos. Is that enough hand holding for you?

English is not your first language, or you're too young to be playing eve, because you didn't understand what was said at all.

Oh, I totally understood what was said. But if you want to have a point, please, say where I am wrong?

He said multiple times that he is mad because of the 30 day ban and that he feels that CCP isn't the CCP he is used to because of this ban. He wants to see Jita burn because he wants to see if CCP interferes to "test the waters" if CCP really changed.

Hopefully this will make CCP take a long hard look at their Concord mechanics.

Other than that, my salvagers will be running hot.

Oh BTW, does anybody know how many Thrashers it takes to one-shoot a Tornado?

Ai Mei


This is one example. The burning of jita will be more difficult than people think. Hulk ganking works because of security status. The response time is slower from concord in the 0.5 and 0.6 spaces. Jita is 1.0, concord there almost instant if not already on grid. Any gank attack will only have one shot. There will be alot of fire, burning hot and bright, and a whole lot of wrecked ships. I have no doubt that it will be planned, and there will be firepower, but the quote above is quite the thing to consider.

The firepower to bring to burn jita will be alot more expensive than a few alts with thrashers in asteroid belts. It would mean battlecruisers and more manpower, for less damage output. Even with the massive goonwallet, the time they can spend is finite. Tier 3 ships, if they keep em going are going to be a few hundred mil an hour, provided they can stay fitted. Manpower will be limited as a mass outpouring will have people counter attacking. Good for eve, nullsec wars are good for everybody. Goons finish and lay waste in nullsec more. Their war declaration in their goonian speech shows. More ass kicking, less noob shooting.

I am wondering if this Burn Jita thing is just some ruse by goons to make ISK, and it will not happen.
As you pointed out, Tornado's will get popped in 1.0 space VERY fast.

I listened to their leader's latest audio file.
He called for 1800 Tornado's.


Assume these these Tornado's get off 2 shots each in 1.0 space, that still means 9-10 gank ships per freighter.
So that means 1800 Tornado's have the ability to take out 180-200 freighters?
And how many freighters pass in and out of Jita in a day?

Now, I think the mere threat of this happening will so drastically limit Jita traffic that those 1800 ships could last significantly longer.

At that point other hubs pop up.
Further, these jokers will have to sell their products somewhere eventually. Their own members also use Jita to finance their goon chars. Plus, as others stated, while they burn Jita who is protecting their turf.

As it stands, goons are 8000 strong, and their test buddies another 6000.
That is 14000 chars, plus likely another equal number of alts. So now we are talking 28,000 chars that could siege Jita.
So how does 1800 Tier 3 BC's work there? Maybe another 50,000 Catalysts?

The more I think about this, the more I feel it will be a 1-2 day gank, if it happens at all.
It will be a great opportunity to make a ton of ISK as people panic and either sell like crazy or buy like crazy prior to the 28th.
I am not smart enough to figure which it will go, but rest assured, some people will get very rich off of this.

Assume these these Tornado's get off 2 shots each in 1.0 space, that still means 9-10 gank ships per freighter.
So that means 1800 Tornado's have the ability to take out 180-200 freighters?
And how many freighters pass in and out of Jita in a day?

Now, I think the mere threat of this happening will so drastically limit Jita traffic that those 1800 ships could last significantly longer.

At that point other hubs pop up.
Further, these jokers will have to sell their products somewhere eventually. Their own members also use Jita to finance their goon chars. Plus, as others stated, while they burn Jita who is protecting their turf.

As it stands, goons are 8000 strong, and their test buddies another 6000.
That is 14000 chars, plus likely another equal number of alts. So now we are talking 28,000 chars that could siege Jita.
So how does 1800 Tier 3 BC's work there? Maybe another 50,000 Catalysts?

The more I think about this, the more I feel it will be a 1-2 day gank, if it happens at all.
It will be a great opportunity to make a ton of ISK as people panic and either sell like crazy or buy like crazy prior to the 28th.
I am not smart enough to figure which it will go, but rest assured, some people will get very rich off of this.

All of my isk is going to Thrashers and Tornadoes. Going to be one hell of a party.
(Reserving 50+ thrashers for podmail superstar purposes, more delicious tears.)

CCP overreacted in their decision to completely nullify 10000 player opinions. Whether they want to step up that kneejerk response a second time remains to be seen. This has nothing to do with positive or negative. It has everything to do with whether or not the CSM is relevant and whether CCP is shifting toward PR/marketing friendly carebear land or not.

I know, maybe ccp should give all you pubs some t2 bpos. Is that enough hand holding for you?

What I got from Alex's audio response was that he was perfectly fine with not being on CSM7, the 30 day ban, and the original blog post telling people what was done.

What mad him "angry" was CCP calling him a bad person in the 2nd blog. From the blog:

"Such behavior crosses the line of acceptable player conduct and breaks the Terms of Service. CCP finds this behavior morally reprehensible."

It's one thing when pubbies call him and goonswarm scumbags, it's quite another when CCP does it apparently.

Hence, Jita must burn.

What I got from Alex's audio response was that he was perfectly fine with not being on CSM7, the 30 day ban, and the original blog post telling people what was done.

What mad him "angry" was CCP calling him a bad person in the 2nd blog. From the blog:

"Such behavior crosses the line of acceptable player conduct and breaks the Terms of Service. CCP finds this behavior morally reprehensible."

It's one thing when pubbies call him and goonswarm scumbags, it's quite another when CCP does it apparently.

Hence, Jita must burn.