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Captator
Universal Securities
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Posted - 2008.09.26 17:10:00 -
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Echoing the sentiment in this thread, he has done a good job, and is very visible on forums being generally useful, waive the restriction for him, drop the restriction back to 18+, or at least give us a VERY good reason why you have instated it.
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Drake Draconis
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Posted - 2008.09.26 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: Drake Draconis on 26/09/2008 17:58:02
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There should be a "brain age" Limit...not an age limit.
Like the yahoo who remarked about kids.... he should be blocked.
Not the other way around.
Most kids these days are not very bright.. but there are a few who are actually smarter and more intelligent than the adults are...most adults are as dumb as bricks.
LVV is great for the CSM.... he has my support.
Don't kick him for his age. Should be an qualification of Maturity...not Age.
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Demetri Slavic
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.09.26 18:04:00 -
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LV, one of the main reasons that the CSM was at all effective and not a complete joke.
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Mistress Evita
Caldari
Booze and Hookers
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Posted - 2008.09.26 18:39:00 -
[34]
 Originally by: Mr Horizontal
I therefore propose a small clause to be added that instead of just 'the 21 year age limit to be a valid candidate' that it becomes 'the 21 year age limit to be a valid candidate, unless the candidate has held a position on the CSM previously'.
No. I can not support this so I do a thumbs down.
You either let em all in or none of em in.
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Leumas Kharzim
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Posted - 2008.09.26 18:57:00 -
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I support the clause. Let LVV be grandfathered in. |
Kalahari Wayrest
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:09:00 -
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Quote:
I therefore propose a small clause to be added that instead of just 'the 21 year age limit to be a valid candidate' that it becomes 'the 21 year age limit to be a valid candidate, unless the candidate has held a position on the CSM previously'.
I don't actually agree with this per se as I'm against the plan in general - I think LaVista's candidacy alone proves it redundant, and given people can own accounts and play under the ages of 21, then they should also be represented.
Nevertheless, I'll vote thumbs up, as a clause highlights there's a flaw in the proposed plan.
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Lia Gaeren
Pole Dancing Vixens
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:18:00 -
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LaVista Vista is the best of the CSM delegates and has performed his elected role better than any other two CSMs combined that you could care to name. Should he wish to stand again, he should have the option to do so... as an earlier poster mentioned, LV is why the CSM project has not deteriorated into a complete farce.
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DEATHsyphon
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:21:00 -
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I don't know the guy but all of a sudden changes like that that seem to blatantly out someone is ridicules. SUPPORTED
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Drolus
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:26:00 -
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let him run again, he keeps the other mouthbreathers in check
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Kuga Kita
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.09.26 20:34:00 -
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Way to force someone out of the party.
Exclusionary tactics ftl... CSM isn't American politics.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.09.26 20:46:00 -
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Fully support this.
Vista has been one of the most levelheaded guys in the CSM so far. 
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Treelox
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.26 23:52:00 -
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I really really think that LV should be grandfathered in on this change.
While I can understand why CCP wouldn want to put in an age limit, in LV's case the "damage" has already been done.
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TimMc
The Motley Crew
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Posted - 2008.09.27 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: ian666
limit should be higher and not allowing kids to do important things
If the kid has the right ideas and the people vote him in, who are you to judge?
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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
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Posted - 2008.09.27 06:18:00 -
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I can see age restrictions being relevant in some cases. However, 18 and an actionable NDA seem quite sufficient in this case. 21 is overkill, unnecessary and blocks one of the more effective CSM members currently serving from extending his competent work by re-running.
Odd move, CCP.
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John Holt
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.27 07:16:00 -
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An age limit is okay, but its wrong to blind side LaVista with it. He has served well and should be allowed to continue to serve if he is elected a second time.
John Holt
My Personal Eve Site
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Ambo
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.27 09:02:00 -
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LVV is great for the community and has done far more than most. No reason at all not to allow him to stand for re-election.
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Venkul Mul
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Posted - 2008.09.27 09:39:00 -
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Unless there are some very compelling legal reasons under Iceland or international law (possible, something laws have strange quirks), I see no reason to implement a 21 years age limit. Competence is much more important.
18 seem sufficient to avoid legal problems for my limited legal knowledge.
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Redbad
Mean Corp
Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2008.09.27 12:25:00 -
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huh? Under 21 is banned from being a delegate?
So much for: "the youth has the future".
Age is overrated ... you you get older than 40, you know, trust me. 
Thumbs up for this proposal, although I think age limits are stupid.
RB
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fuze
Chosen Path
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.09.27 12:29:00 -
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LVV shouldn't be the victim of CCP's ignorance of his age before the first elections.
Besides hes a darn good CSM delegate. Pherhaps too good? |
Garion Avarr
Zero Zero Traders
YTMND.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 14:18:00 -
[50]
At the very least, I think CCP should give an explaination.
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soldieroffortune 258
Trinity Council
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Posted - 2008.09.27 14:35:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Tmarte
The 21 year old age limit is bullshit. I voted for LVV, and want him back. He's the only person on the CSM that cares about us carebears.
which is why he should be nerfed . . .
(just a joke people, kidding)
i think it is rather stupid to impose this, if they simply aare doing it because of the fanfest alcohol or whatever, then, it shouldnt be a problem, they HAVE to respect icelandic law, which means he couldnt drink anyway( if he's under the age, ofcourse), why the hell should they impose another rule about it if one's already there?
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.09.27 15:08:00 -
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I agree with most people that the rule, especially imposed so late in the process, and so shortly before the elections smells of elitism and corruption. Some CSM want prevent other CSM from running, and thus maximize chances of success?
I fully support repelling of the rule in its current form, and giving LvV a chance to run again. Especially since he was the only one who kept us updated on a Dead Horse POS issue, while rest of the CSM was asleep, or ignoring it.
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Raymond Sterns
Utopian Research I.E.L.
The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jinx Barker
I agree with most people that the rule, especially imposed so late in the process, and so shortly before the elections smells of elitism and corruption. Some CSM want prevent other CSM from running, and thus maximize chances of success?
I fully support repelling of the rule in its current form, and giving LvV a chance to run again. Especially since he was the only one who kept us updated on a Dead Horse POS issue, while rest of the CSM was asleep, or ignoring it.
or Generally ****ing around, like always.
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Dex Nederland
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2008.09.27 16:31:00 -
[54]
Supported
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Aloriana Jacques
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.09.27 17:31:00 -
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I support an age of 18 at maximum unless CCP gives an acceptable and credible reason as to why it should be 21 instead.
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Efrim Black
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Posted - 2008.09.27 19:38:00 -
[56]
Viva LaVista!
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SysFin
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Posted - 2008.09.27 19:39:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Efrim Black
Viva LaVista!
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NanDe YaNen
The Funkalistic
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Posted - 2008.09.27 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: NanDe YaNen on 27/09/2008 19:45:06
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Blade Kinnerson
Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.09.27 20:46:00 -
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I do not see that age means anything in this subject; clearly understands the game, the economics and the math, so let him keep working on it
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Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2008.09.27 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: fuze
LVV shouldn't be the victim of CCP's ignorance of his age before the first elections.
Besides hes a darn good CSM delegate. Pherhaps too good?
They were not ignorant, he asked prior to the 1st election. They gave a nod at that time. I am disappointed they are giving the no now.
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