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Elena Morin'staal
Tau Online Explorator Corp
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Posted - 2008.09.30 15:23:00 -
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Signing this for good measure. |
Ivena Amethyst
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Posted - 2008.09.30 16:24:00 -
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I iz giv moar support
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Sir SmellyFart
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Posted - 2008.09.30 17:26:00 -
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winthrowe
Node Alpha Defense Research
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Posted - 2008.10.01 01:37:00 -
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I found LVV to be an excellent delegate and was very much hoping to vote for him again this term, especially with the midas expansion being next on the agenda.
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Ghost 3374923
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Posted - 2008.10.01 12:26:00 -
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Edited by: Ghost 3374923 on 01/10/2008 12:29:06
Irrespective of who, I or anyone else is going to vote for, this is an outrage. No age limits can be made, any citizen of EVE who gets enough votes has the right to be elected and anything else would be a scandal!
/signed
Makes you wonder...if there are elements in CCP, who want to acheive something that has nothing to do with this age limit...
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Arimus Darkhart
Ursa Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2008.10.01 17:48:00 -
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Assuming the NDA is the issue and it has been signed by LV's parent(s)/guardian(s) and they're fine with him carrying out his CSM duties then I fail to see what the problem is.
If CCP want to introduce this rule then just wait till LV is 21, or make the rule something along the lines of: "all new candidates for the CSM must be a minimum age of 21, this rule does not apply to existing CSM members who have already been elected to their position"
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.10.01 20:42:00 -
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 Originally by: SencneS
It's a simple as this, since LaVista Vista has already signed an NDA and is legally bound by an NDA he doesn't need to sign another. So legally CCP and LaVista Vista AND the parent/legal guardian who signed the NDA are covered.
There is no legal reason why LaVista Vista should NOT be able to run again.
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Aiden Bismuth
Die Boeremag
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Posted - 2008.10.02 07:12:00 -
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I think that they should make an exception for LV.
They can enforce the age limit on subsequent candidates, but I think it would be a good idea to reduce it to 18, unless Icelandic law requires them to make the age limit 21.
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Ghost 3374923
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Posted - 2008.10.02 12:30:00 -
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support
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Maria Kalista
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Posted - 2008.10.02 13:15:00 -
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All for it --> "a small clause to be added that instead of just 'the 21 year age limit to be a valid candidate' that it becomes 'the 21 year age limit to be a valid candidate, unless the candidate has held a position on the CSM previously'."
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
You put a bear in your tea???
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Nyza Lobot
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Posted - 2008.10.02 14:13:00 -
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/signed
I regret my vote (for other unnamed candidate) but I have been impressed with LaVista. Let him run!
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Kim Wilde
Gallente
Covenant
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Posted - 2008.10.02 14:46:00 -
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its also about maturity so id say 21 is also ok as some countrys have limited rights from 18 to 21
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WishBlade
League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees
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Posted - 2008.10.02 16:29:00 -
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18 over 21
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Mynxee
Hellcats
Doom Armada
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Posted - 2008.10.02 16:35:00 -
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Grandfather LaVista in...his maturity and professional demeanor exceed his actual age by a long shot. If a limit for FUTURE candidates must be set, 18 seems to make more sense than 21.
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Duck Andcover
Evil ALT Corp
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Posted - 2008.10.02 22:19:00 -
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Yarrr. Thumbs up. |
Trist Ian
Free Galactic Enterprises
Violent-Tendencies
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Posted - 2008.10.02 23:02:00 -
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2008.10.03 16:25:00 -
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The implementation of this rule has been postponed. So it seems like we made CCP change their mind.
Hurray! 
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.10.03 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista
The implementation of this rule has been postponed. So it seems like we made CCP change their mind.
Hurray!
The rule has been postponed or you have been grandfathered in? Cause if it has been postponed my 13yr old cousin wants to try and run for CSM.
:P
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Criswell White
Minmatar
Selectus Pravus Lupus
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Posted - 2008.10.03 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Athre
I believe LVV should be grandfathered in.
How do we grandfather him when he's under 21? Wouldn't that be physically impossible?
Seriously, LaVistaVista has complied with every CCP requirement, and has proven to be a strong advocate for industrial improvements. We should be free to elect who we feel is best qualified, and I support LaVistaVista.
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Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2008.10.03 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Criswell White
Originally by: Athre
I believe LVV should be grandfathered in.
How do we grandfather him when he's under 21? Wouldn't that be physically impossible?
Seriously, LaVistaVista has complied with every CCP requirement, and has proven to be a strong advocate for industrial improvements. We should be free to elect who we feel is best qualified, and I support LaVistaVista.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_clause
A grandfather clause is a term used in U.S. English for an exception that allows an old rule to continue to apply to some existing situations, when a new rule will apply to all future situations. It is often used as a verb: to grandfather means to grant such an exemption. For example, a "grandfathered power plant" might be exempt from newer and tougher pollution laws. Often, such a provision is used as a compromise, to effect new rules without upsetting a well-established logistical or political situation. This extends the idea of a rule not being retroactively applied. A portion of a statute that provides that the law is not applicable in certain circumstances due to preexisting facts.
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Ethaet
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.10.03 19:53:00 -
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Supported.
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Seriously, we need some kind of separation between the post and signature.
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Ackaroth
Plundering Penguins
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Posted - 2008.10.03 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Miyamoto Uroki
I guess its because of the hard spirits and ccp doesn't want to be compromised by pictures showing them with a drunk underaged ^^
tbh, I don't care. Average age of players is well above 21 I can imagine and so I have no problem with that rule. CCP will have their reasons for that
Outside of America, you can legally drink without being 21, so that shouldn't be an issue. Its not something you will get a ticket for when you get back to the border :p
Supported. Never heard of him, and not an industry person, but if he is good at what he does and has the general player vote, I say allow him to run for office again.
/me hopes ccp doesnt say ok just to quiet the crowd and then rig vote so he loses >.<
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McFly
C0LDFIRE
RUDE Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.04 00:06:00 -
[113]
LaVista for Reelection
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.10.04 03:17:00 -
[114]
Originally by: LaVista Vista
The implementation of this rule has been postponed. So it seems like we made CCP change their mind.
Hurray!
Good!
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P Lansdale
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Posted - 2008.10.04 10:25:00 -
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Supported.
It doesn't matter that CCP changed their minds...what matters is that somehow they thought that this wasn't going to be a problem.
This is why the CSM is often seen as a joke outfit that has little sway, continual poor decisions from CCP management made without proper thought of the concequencies. |
TimGascoigne
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.10.04 11:54:00 -
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21 is way to old as a lot of eve players are not 21 and LaVista has demonstrated that younger candidates can do a good job as CSM.
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Myryaminda
Caldari
Stellar Research Incorporated
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2008.10.04 14:03:00 -
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Anyone who shone in the past will most probably shine in the future.
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Myryaminda
Stellar Research Incorporated
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2008.10.04 14:05:00 -
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Anyone who shone in the past will most probably shine in the future.
P.S. stupid check
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Criswell White
Minmatar
Selectus Pravus Lupus
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Posted - 2008.10.04 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Athre
Originally by: Criswell White
Originally by: Athre
I believe LVV should be grandfathered in.
How do we grandfather him when he's under 21? Wouldn't that be physically impossible?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_clause
Twas a joke. As far as mininum age goes, the President of the United States is constitutionally required to be at least 40 years old, and look what that rule has given us.
Re-elect LaVistaVista.
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stadshage
Monkey Universe Corporation
Monkey Religion
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Posted - 2008.10.04 23:45:00 -
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18 age limet is fine 21 is insaine
i mean legal to drink 16 drug 18
and run for office 21 lolz
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