Im a Jew and i dont find it offensive and i love isk have a big nose and date only the best looking shiksas


U Mad Gentiles


OP get over yourself

I bet you are mad that this isn't in the game

. BAN EVERYONE IN EVE just to be safe.

If you are getting offended by this word in EvE Online, You may want to seek another game.

EvE players are notorious for their thick skin and shady antics. EvE itself is immersive and you are your character. That character can be anything from a pirate to a scoundrel to an upstanding Amarr Empire Fighter. Those choices are yours. The language you use and the way you treat others is part of your character. Just as people are offensive in real life, so are characters in EvE Online.

You need to grow some meat sack armor or you will never have a good time in EvE Online.

One thing that's been bothering me for some time is the casual use of the word jew in Eve to mean trader/industrialist. It's very widespread and it's derogatory. I've often seen it used in the context of people being angry about exploitative prices. "100 isk for AM small???" and someone replies "Shrug, Jews."

I believe it originally came to Eve via Goons from the Something Awful boards where there's a tolerance for many things that people wouldn't want in Eve. The N-word is dropped as often as the word jew over there. But that's there and just because it's permitted there doesn't mean it should be permitted here.

If you are getting offended by this word in EvE Online, You may want to seek another game.

EvE players are notorious for their thick skin and shady antics. EvE itself is immersive and you are your character. That character can be anything from a pirate to a scoundrel to an upstanding Amarr Empire Fighter. Those choices are yours. The language you use and the way you treat others is part of your character. Just as people are offensive in real life, so are characters in EvE Online.

You need to grow some meat sack armor or you will never have a good time in EvE Online.

This ^

I have a younger brother with Downs Syndrome, I dont kick off or even give a **** when people start throwing that around, posting pics and calling everyone a tard. When I was younger I punched a few people for it, I grew up and stopped caring about it, if we all worry about hurting someones feelings all the time we will all live alone, sad lonely lives. Well tbh probably many of you do anyway so sorry about that.

But really, you will find the people crying about the use of anti this, or anti that names are actually the liberal white folks who want to try and save mankind, not the people it actually affects who got over it and accept that people are people.

Basically what Im trying to say is get over yourself, you arnt here to save mankind.

Please learn what "liberal" actually means as far as politics goes. It original use was descriptive only of trade policies. Leftists would be the term you are looking for.

Actually, belief in "laizez fair" economy is only one aspect of liberal philosophy. Individual autonomy and freedom are also parts of the philosophy that are possibly even more key (in fact encapsulate the former).

You're right in one thing though. People who use the word as a bad name don't know what it means. Being liberal means not being a Taliban. Even the "conservatives" of western democracies are liberal...except maybe some of the real whacko's like the Tea Party in the US.

But now there's very little connection between jews and usury in the modern world. It's not Israel that caused the crash of 2008

First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

the word ''Jew'' is derogatory term for a religious community,. their not 'Jews' as you so ignorantly put it,. their 'Jewish',. or people of Jewish faith

THEY'RE!!!!

"Jew" also seems to be simple shorthand for Jewish, where as many other slurs are outright derogatory in nature. It only takes a handful of hateful people to create a slur when its quite possible that it wasn't a slur prior

so we are going from fags telling people to kill them selfs to non-jews getting offended over a slur. pussies.

so we are going from fags telling people to kill them selfs to non-jews getting offended over a slur. pussies.

There was no antisemitism on this forum, until OP revealed his **** on public and started wave him like the flag.
Seriously, cut this cheap attention whoring. Outside of US nobody cares about political correctness.
If you are an idiot, it's irrelevant which nationality you are.

I understand there was actual honest to god Neo **** running for CSM at one point. I honestly don't understand how these people are still around in the year 2012.

Missiles and lasers can crack my pod; but smack talk will never hurt me.

Then I object to the use of the word "Jew" as being OC for this universe!!!

There isn't any Jew history in EvE. It was all lost when human beings expanded through the EvE gate and got wiped out. The only religious group that's mentioned as surviving the great extinction in the EvE history is Catholicism, which became the foundation for the Amarr theocracy.

they're not 'Jews' as you so ignorantly put it,. their 'Jewish',

I bet you are mad that this isn't in the game

Stealth "ban Goons" thread detected.

Also, CCP, please crack down on everyone who uses the following words in an offhand manner (because proving malicious intent is hard; just go with the assumption "they use it--they mean it"). Arguably, they are even worse than "jew" because the forums will censor them; please excuse my profanity filter evasion, these words are the content of my post and a real scourge upon EVE, burn permabans for every user plz! The OP doesn't care about anyone but Semites, but I'm a true crusader for all.

* r e t a r d e d
* r a p e
* g a y
* f a g (g o t)
* b i t c h
* w h o r e (as a verb)


You ARE the word police, you can access any in-game channel (I assume), etc. Plz monitor and ban everyone. These words are racist, sexist, ableist and homophobic. BAN EVERYONE IN EVE just to be safe.

Know what's worse than bigotry? People who whine about bigotry.

Politically correct people never cease to amaze me. Either they have a defective sense of humour? Or they're just suppressing it?


As a proud "sand n****r", I enjoy using the word "kraut" when referring to German friends/friends who look German.

Well. That wins the award for the absolute stupidest comment of the day.

Those who wish to curb free speech should be enslaved

I never understood what some people have against Jews. Ever been to a Jewish neighborhood? No loud music, no droopy pants, no loud music, no pit bulls, no welfare recipients, no crime. Can't say that for... others.

OP forget it, a big part of the EVE player base is too immature to understand that jew used as money maker is pejorative. Back then in Europe it costed them to end up in work camps that turned into extermination camps later on, nugh said.

Just wait for Sony to absorb CCP, they'll just ban the jackass like any other game companies and those jackass will go play on a new f2p private server.

Well thing is that many players is from USA and Yeah ... In most for them there is nothing wrong with it.. They cant see anything wrong with calling someone **** Or jew .. So Yeah

There was awesome idea to make USA subforum :) i think its good.

One thing that's been bothering me for some time is the casual use of the word jew in Eve to mean trader/industrialist. It's very widespread and it's derogatory. I've often seen it used in the context of people being angry about exploitative prices. "100 isk for AM small???" and someone replies "Shrug, Jews."

It's now so normal for many players and alliances that people are starting to forget it's potentially offensive.People used it constantly when I was in the old Northern Coalition. And it's become so widespread now. For example


http://www.evenews24.com/2012/03/28/leak-gsf-ceo-update-clutching-pearls-and-finger-wagging

I don't think he was trying to be offensive, he just uses the word because to him and everyone he plays Eve with, it's just the word for trader

It's possibly because I'm older. I was born in the 60s and influenced as a child by many people who had fought in the Second World War. Their view was that the war was completely just because of the Jewish issue and that antisemitism is profoundly wrong

It's a very out-of-date stereotype. In the Middle Ages there were prohibitions in the Christian and Muslim religions against usury. This meant that most bankers had to be of a different religion and in Europe they were generally jews

But now there's very little connection between jews and usury in the modern world. It's not Israel that caused the crash of 2008

I believe it originally came to Eve via Goons from the Something Awful boards where there's a tolerance for many things that people wouldn't want in Eve. The N-word is dropped as often as the word jew over there. But that's there and just because it's permitted there doesn't mean it should be permitted here.

Now you could try to defend it by claiming that it's meant light-heartedly, that it's a joke, that it's ironic. But it's well established in law (and simple common sense) that harassment is determined by how the recipient feels, not the person makiing the comments

It's not appropriate here and it worries me that it's gaining traction. So much so that when a player is trying to behave it slips out - he's forgotten it's an emotionally-charged word. In fact to some extent I had too, it was only when someone commented on my blog about Mittens using it that I thought this really has gone too far

I would like CCP to crack down, to issue temp bans for the use of the word jew in a derogatory way. And I don't just mean if someone complains I mean one day a player laughs about "jewing it up" and the next day they can't log in.

Recent events have shown that Eve's developed a locker room culture that's out of control and in some countries there are even legal implications to antisemitism.

. Outside of US nobody cares about political correctness.


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If you are getting offended by this word in EvE Online, You may want to seek another game.

EvE players are notorious for their thick skin and shady antics. EvE itself is immersive and you are your character. That character can be anything from a pirate to a scoundrel to an upstanding Amarr Empire Fighter. Those choices are yours. The language you use and the way you treat others is part of your character. Just as people are offensive in real life, so are characters in EvE Online.

You need to grow some meat sack armor or you will never have a good time in EvE Online.

This is going to be entertaining.

Especially when American prime time hits.

Mr Epeen

I've never been very fond of it being thrown around casually to indicate anyone that might be considered fixated on making money.

It's a bit odd actually, maybe it's my age, but if you point out that using Jew in that fashion is in fact a slur they respond with complete surprise. It's become such a standard phrase among many groups they don't even think about it as actually being offensive any more.

Look at all those 3-day forum posting bans about to be handed out!

IBTL.

One thing that's been bothering me for some time is the casual use of the word jew in Eve to mean trader/industrialist. It's very widespread and it's derogatory. I've often seen it used in the context of people being angry about exploitative prices. "100 isk for AM small???" and someone replies "Shrug, Jews."

It's now so normal for many players and alliances that people are starting to forget it's potentially offensive.People used it constantly when I was in the old Northern Coalition. And it's become so widespread now. For example


http://www.evenews24.com/2012/03/28/leak-gsf-ceo-update-clutching-pearls-and-finger-wagging

I don't think he was trying to be offensive, he just uses the word because to him and everyone he plays Eve with, it's just the word for trader

It's possibly because I'm older. I was born in the 60s and influenced as a child by many people who had fought in the Second World War. Their view was that the war was completely just because of the Jewish issue and that antisemitism is profoundly wrong

It's a very out-of-date stereotype. In the Middle Ages there were prohibitions in the Christian and Muslim religions against usury. This meant that most bankers had to be of a different religion and in Europe they were generally jews

But now there's very little connection between jews and usury in the modern world. It's not Israel that caused the crash of 2008

I believe it originally came to Eve via Goons from the Something Awful boards where there's a tolerance for many things that people wouldn't want in Eve. The N-word is dropped as often as the word jew over there. But that's there and just because it's permitted there doesn't mean it should be permitted here.

Now you could try to defend it by claiming that it's meant light-heartedly, that it's a joke, that it's ironic. But it's well established in law (and simple common sense) that harassment is determined by how the recipient feels, not the person makiing the comments

It's not appropriate here and it worries me that it's gaining traction. So much so that when a player is trying to behave it slips out - he's forgotten it's an emotionally-charged word. In fact to some extent I had too, it was only when someone commented on my blog about Mittens using it that I thought this really has gone too far

I would like CCP to crack down, to issue temp bans for the use of the word jew in a derogatory way. And I don't just mean if someone complains I mean one day a player laughs about "jewing it up" and the next day they can't log in.

Recent events have shown that Eve's developed a locker room culture that's out of control and in some countries there are even legal implications to antisemitism.

Your kidding right? In teh UK they tried to ban the term blackboard in schools.. And here the term liberal usually refers to people who vote for the Liberal party, the worst PC party possibly in the known world. I think they may single handedly have caused more racism than anyone else ever did.

The thing is, the UK is less racist now than it has ever been in its history, BUT some people absolutely refuse to let it go, its like a life raft that if they let go of they may become unimportant and dissapear. The funniest thing about that is the people trying to keep racism alive by telling everyone how racists it is to use terms such as blackboard, or singing baa baa blacksheep are mostly lower middle or upper working class white people.

THE BRITISH WERE GOOD WITH FLAGS!!!

The N-word

Jesus what the ****.

More than half of my relatives who lived between 1941 and 1945 died directly as a result of N a z i Germany's actions in the Soviet Union, and those who lived can tell harrowing stories because they suffered more than I can imagine. Men and women, many picked up guns and fought, the others fought in a different way, by tending to the wounded and trying to live and making their little children's survival a priority (and some were just too young). They weren't soldiers, mostly teachers, academics and farmers. Some died from wounds, some died in combat action or in bombings, some died of hunger, some were herded into a barn with those from their villages who didn't agree to cooperate with the invaders and burned down alive, men, women and children. None of them were Jewish. The people who lived, even those who were very young at the time, have lived with the memories of horror, deaths, torture, r a p e and starvation, many with severely manifested PTSD. Again, not Jewish. They *were* Slavs though, another group of people targeted by the madman as being inferior and a supposed political, genetic and social pestilence upon the world. Stop appropriating the suffering that millions and millions of people from many places in the world underwent in that war and the years immediately prior. Not nearly as many Westerners are familiar with the atrocities committed against non-Jewish Russians, Ukrainians, Belorussians, etc. but ignorance doesn't change the facts of what happened. No one can take away the experiences of Jewish people around the time of WW II, but they are hardly the only group of people affected, stop living like that burden of a horrible past is yours alone to carry for generations upon generations. I'm one of MANY people who don't freak out at every mention of "Russian = bad, Slavic countries = mostly a clusterfuck". I speak out openly against war probably because I've talked extensively to survivors of WW II, read other people's stories, and am old enough to have done so as an adult. But there's no generational victim complex here, and I'm far from unique in that respect.

People love to draw lines between "us" and "them" using just about any characteristic--religion, nationality, sexuality, gender, appearance, etc. Using the word "jew" to mean something else than its intended meaning isn't something that's unique to this word or to Jewish people, and at this point in its history it doesn't carry nearly as negative of a social connotation as some other words that describe groups of people (I'm sure you can think of a few). It might change. It probably won't. Either way, stop feeling so victimized, it's not a good look for you. Everyone can go through life with a victim's attitude, it's not a unique trait (but it can be a pretty obnoxious one).

There is a reason that it is less racist now. Guess what - the PC brigade were a huge cause of that! People didn't just stop the casual racism for no reason. They stopped it because it became socially unacceptable and it became socially unacceptable because people put pressure on (or 'whined at') those who used racist language.

Casual use of words like ****** or jew is usually not coming from a racist place in eve. However, it is frequently used in the HOPE that it will cause offence, not because people want to offend those of other races specifically but because they want to offend someone. Most people are going to be able to laugh it off. But let's not pretend that real racism is a thing of the past, eh? People still get targeted and killed due to their race. In the UK and the US. Kids still get bullied at school and have their lives made miserable. Given this real world context, some people who come to eve ARE going to be offended by this language and they're going to be offended for damn good reasons because they will already have suffered from negative stereotyping. Against this you have to set the freedom of a bunch of kids to feel cool because they are being transgressive. Personally, the giggles of a few under-nourished personalities seem like a pretty poor reason to risk causing genuine deeply felt offence to people and those that use this kind of language should take a long look at themselves and consider whether the fun of going out of bounds is worth risking actual hurt to real people. But should it be banned? Probably not, unless it reaches the levels where it constitutes incitement.


Edit - Holy ****! I thought the baa baa black sheep stuff was dead 20 years ago. I just checked and it is actually still a live issue .

Edit2 - And on checking further it turns out to be a good old Daily Mail type scare story:

People are mean to Australians.

Can we ban all those people as well please?

Actually its people and posts like this that spreads the antisemitism around further. There are a lot of people who don't know about such things until you make them aware of it.

I find people who get offended when humor is applied in context to stereotypical views of their ethnicity, race, religion, etc to be the biggest bigots of them all.

That's because you are a ******* moro..... That's because you are intellectually challenged.

Is it in poor taste? Sure.

Am I offended? Not really, no.

I can't speak for all Jews, but many of us have learned to just shrug off this kind of thing. If you got upset over every tiny stereotype and slur, you'd never be happy.

No matter what your ethnicity, there are always people seeking to dehumanize and disparage you. It's best just to ignore it.

Obviously, if there's ever any real malicious intent behind it you should probably report it. But am I gonna petition every single person who stereotypes Jews as profiteering and greedy? Nah. I've got better things to do.

Are these people ******* serious?

Is it in poor taste? Sure.

Am I offended? Not really, no.

I can't speak for all Jews, but many of us have learned to just shrug off this kind of thing. If you got upset over every tiny stereotype and slur, you'd never be happy.

No matter what your ethnicity, there are always people seeking to dehumanize and disparage you. It's best just to ignore it.

Obviously, if there's ever any real malicious intent behind it you should probably report it. But am I gonna petition every single person who stereotypes Jews as profiteering and greedy? Nah. I've got better things to do.

"Antisemitism rife in Eve Online"

"NAACP targets CCP in anti-racist campaign"

"Eve Online player commits suicide after racist cyber-bullying"

"Germany bans Eve Online after antisemitic scandal"

Some of the headlines that CCP can look forward to if it doesn't act. CCP is trying to attract subscribers from other countries like Japan who may not understand or appreciate dark, satirical humour. And obviously there are those knobheads who take things too far and start hurling racial and sexist insults. I remember listening to a pre-recorded vent where some corp members teased a female player and accused her of enjoying being raped by her now-deceased father. Obviously she logged in tears. Very ****** up.

Watch your back CCP.

"Antisemitism rife in Eve Online"

"NAACP targets CCP in anti-racist campaign"

"Eve Online player commits suicide after racist cyber-bullying"

"Germany bans Eve Online after antisemitic scandal"

Some of the headlines that CCP can look forward to if it doesn't act. CCP is trying to attract subscribers from other countries like Japan who may not understand or appreciate dark, satirical humour. And obviously there are those knobheads who take things too far and start hurling racial and sexist insults. I remember listening to a pre-recorded vent where some corp members teased a female player and accused her of enjoying being raped by her now-deceased father. Obviously she logged in tears. Very ****** up.

Watch your back CCP.

"Antisemitism rife in Eve Online"

"NAACP targets CCP in anti-racist campaign"

"Eve Online player commits suicide after racist cyber-bullying"

"Germany bans Eve Online after antisemitic scandal"

Some of the headlines that CCP can look forward to if it doesn't act. CCP is trying to attract subscribers from other countries like Japan who may not understand or appreciate dark, satirical humour. And obviously there are those knobheads who take things too far and start hurling racial and sexist insults. I remember listening to a pre-recorded vent where some corp members teased a female player and accused her of enjoying being raped by her now-deceased father. Obviously she logged in tears. Very ****** up.

Watch your back CCP.

U Mad Gentiles

This ^

I have a younger brother with Downs Syndrome, I dont kick off or even give a **** when people start throwing that around, posting pics and calling everyone a tard. When I was younger I punched a few people for it, I grew up and stopped caring about it, if we all worry about hurting someones feelings all the time we will all live alone, sad lonely lives. Well tbh probably many of you do anyway so sorry about that.

But really, you will find the people crying about the use of anti this, or anti that names are actually the liberal white folks who want to try and save mankind, not the people it actually affects who got over it and accept that people are people.

Basically what Im trying to say is get over yourself, you arnt here to save mankind.

So your implying that people in Japan are somehow lacking in satirical senses of humour or are somehow unable to interact with the rest of the world without being offended? Are you serious?

I live in Germany, and if we're even accused of Anti-Semitism here, the government will send us to a concentration camp.

On behalf of the viking people go to hell and a big laugh at your threats.

This thread shows exactly how the silencing of speech begins.

The problem is created out of thin air, in this case the Jewes have decided anti semitism is an issue in game.

Next comes the reaction. All of said persuasion come out of the wood work with manufactured disgust.

Then will come a solution. Here's where it gets deep. The initial solution will be to prevent anyone from saying anything directly about the mindset creating the dichotomy. The Jewes. Once this happens its impossible to ever stop the never ending crusade of divide and conquer originating from one direction. To object leads to being labeled a racist and when necessary antisemite.

Its the first assault to place the special ones into a position of authority and power over anyone else.

It work's out of game it can just as easily work in game.

We need no special or protected classes in EVE. The bottom line is unless you reveal your ethnicity no one knows or cares but you.

Hey dumbass what's with the extra "e" in Jews? Oh and stopping ******* Penguins, its screwing with your brain.

I believe it originally came to Eve via Goons from the Something Awful boards where there's a tolerance for many things that people wouldn't want in Eve. The N-word is dropped as often as the word jew over there. But that's there and just because it's permitted there doesn't mean it should be permitted here.

Watch from 3:21

Political Correctness

In the popular smartphone game, Words with Friends, you can not use the word Jew. That was a shame, because I totally had at least 666 times I could have used Jew for a triple line.

When exactly did the word Jew become so bad that you can't even say the word Jew anymore. What do we start calling Jewish people?

Too bad people can't do this with the word ******.

like making isk?

When exactly did the word Jew become so bad that you can't even say the word Jew anymore. What do we start calling Jewish people?

One thing that's been bothering me for some time is the casual use of the word jew in Eve to mean trader/industrialist. It's very widespread and it's derogatory. I've often seen it used in the context of people being angry about exploitative prices. "100 isk for AM small???" and someone replies "Shrug, Jews."

It's now so normal for many players and alliances that people are starting to forget it's potentially offensive.People used it constantly when I was in the old Northern Coalition. And it's become so widespread now. For example


http://www.evenews24.com/2012/03/28/leak-gsf-ceo-update-clutching-pearls-and-finger-wagging

I don't think he was trying to be offensive, he just uses the word because to him and everyone he plays Eve with, it's just the word for trader

It's possibly because I'm older. I was born in the 60s and influenced as a child by many people who had fought in the Second World War. Their view was that the war was completely just because of the Jewish issue and that antisemitism is profoundly wrong

It's a very out-of-date stereotype. In the Middle Ages there were prohibitions in the Christian and Muslim religions against usury. This meant that most bankers had to be of a different religion and in Europe they were generally jews

But now there's very little connection between jews and usury in the modern world. It's not Israel that caused the crash of 2008

I believe it originally came to Eve via Goons from the Something Awful boards where there's a tolerance for many things that people wouldn't want in Eve. The N-word is dropped as often as the word jew over there. But that's there and just because it's permitted there doesn't mean it should be permitted here.

Now you could try to defend it by claiming that it's meant light-heartedly, that it's a joke, that it's ironic. But it's well established in law (and simple common sense) that harassment is determined by how the recipient feels, not the person makiing the comments

It's not appropriate here and it worries me that it's gaining traction. So much so that when a player is trying to behave it slips out - he's forgotten it's an emotionally-charged word. In fact to some extent I had too, it was only when someone commented on my blog about Mittens using it that I thought this really has gone too far

I would like CCP to crack down, to issue temp bans for the use of the word jew in a derogatory way. And I don't just mean if someone complains I mean one day a player laughs about "jewing it up" and the next day they can't log in.

Recent events have shown that Eve's developed a locker room culture that's out of control and in some countries there are even legal implications to antisemitism.

Anti semitism and racism in all it's forms sucks.

Having said that (required) just wondering about some aspects of the whole racial stereotype thing... some of the stereotypes aren't all that bad ... ie almost all groups have their own super power.

Why is it offensive to be thought of as a natural trader and businessman
Why is it offensive to be thought of as a natural athlete
Why is it offensive to be thought of as smart

You can easily guess which groups the above statements are aimed at...

just curious... as a member of the only minority that it's politically acceptable and ENCOURAGED to discriminate against (white-male-christian-smoker) I always thought it would be nice to have a super power like the other minorities do.

Where's my super power!!!!

just curious... as a member of the only minority that it's politically acceptable and ENCOURAGED to discriminate against (white-male-christian-smoker) I always thought it would be nice to have a super power like the other minorities do.

Where's my super power!!!!

Anti semitism and racism in all it's forms sucks.

Having said that (required) just wondering about some aspects of the whole racial stereotype thing... some of the stereotypes aren't all that bad ... ie almost all groups have their own super power.

Why is it offensive to be thought of as a natural trader and businessman
Why is it offensive to be thought of as a natural athlete
Why is it offensive to be thought of as smart

You can easily guess which groups the above statements are aimed at...

just curious... as a member of the only minority that it's politically acceptable and ENCOURAGED to discriminate against (white-male-christian-smoker) I always thought it would be nice to have a super power like the other minorities do.

Where's my super power!!!!

Well, to be honest most of those folks would rather the "super power" be attributed to their individual accomplishments, not their racial heritage.

OP: I to like jews.
If you can't stand them, get out.


Besides, I can go to Amarr and buy slaves.
I can take these Minmatar slaves and I can eject them in a can and I can shoot them.

So, please, go look at the color of these worthless matar slaves.
Are you now going to call me a racist?

I couldn't agree with the OP more but what you need to understand is this:

A lot of people who play Eve are of low intelligence, incapable, and lack the emotional substance that would make them successful in the real world. Not all, but a great deal of them. They are frustrated and so make themselves feel better by hurting others. It's a bit like the internet as a whole really; people leave their brains at the door and just spew out the most hateful, reflexive bile they can, just for the sheer thrill of doing it without the repercussions that would accompany such actions IRL. We all experience it to a degree of course, when you make a billion isk, or pull off a scam, act as a spy or blast someone's hard earned ship and pod them, you're getting a thrill out of something that you don't do in real life.

But it's these desperate ones who are the most offensive - the ones who toss terms like jew, f****t and gay around, because the only way to make them feel better about themselves is by segregating and belittling others. They were probably the same at school and just never grew up. These people are generally cowards too - notice that there is a lack of the use of the word "n****r". It's too much of a taboo these days; the soft targets now are homosexuals and people of other religions.

If you are going to get upset about how offensive these terms are then (a) you've let the silly little troll win, because he got the cheap attention-seeking reaction he so craved and (b) you shouldn't play Eve, because it is rife with this and CCP does nothing to discourage it. The only other option is to do what I do and tune it out and just play the game - let those that feel the need to disparage others get on with it.

Funny thing is that there is a secret that most learn in life in time: the more insulting, hurtful, aggressive a person is, the more those things come back upon them and the more disliked they will be, including by themselves.

You can bet that the majority of the "hilarious" people who've replied to your post don't feel good about what they've written - not really.

So being known for making tons of money is offensive?

Please send all isk to me now so I can make sure no one ever calls you a mega-jew.... I'll take on the burden

I've always wondered why some folks take offense to this. If anything, its a compliment to say hey, we're going to go "be successful at gaining wealth."

STFU with the bs anti-semetic drivel. The only ideology that pretends to be a race falsely gets no free pass simply for speaking of stereotypes. If you want to talk about anti-semetism then one only has to speak of the state of Israel , the most anti-semetic nation on the face of this planet who maintain a terrorist founded apartheid nation against the native semetic people's who have been there for millennia.

Learn who and what the true Semites are and stop pushing your Zionist tard ideologies here.

Posts such as this are the best way to win friends and influence people!
lol

STFU with the bs anti-semetic drivel. The only ideology that pretends to be a race falsely gets no free pass simply for speaking of stereotypes. If you want to talk about anti-semetism then one only has to speak of the state of Israel , the most anti-semetic nation on the face of this planet who maintain a terrorist founded apartheid nation against the native semetic people's who have been there for millennia.

Learn who and what the true Semites are and stop pushing your Zionist tard ideologies here.

You sir are a moron. Last I checked the Jews have been there as long, if not longer, then your "natives." As for it being an apartheid nation - well, its funny how Israel being a democracy which allows its arab citizens to vote and be members of the government, gets tagged as racist when syria is actually killing its own citizens in the thousands and gets a pass from idiots such as yourself. Israel is a fortress surrounded by people that have no problem murdering their own in droves when it suits them. Ultimately its folk such as yourself who merely prove the double standard that is set for Israel and Jews in general.

And yet he's correct.

Seriously, who the hell are you to tell me what words I can or can't use now? There's not even as much malice in someone saying "10 people jewing in the pocket" as there is in someone calling me fat.

Get over it, the jews became a coloquial expression. Perhaps you should try some self analysis as to why that might be?

Yes because running 10 year old arab boys over in tanks when they throw rocks at those tanks is entirely acceptable where I come from too ?

Hey, you wanted to get into it.

Extremist views and hatred do not belong here.

Will be locked soon.

just curious... as a member of the only minority that it's politically acceptable and ENCOURAGED to discriminate against (white-male-christian-smoker) ...

You forgot heterosexual.

Now you could try to defend it by claiming that it's meant light-heartedly, that it's a joke, that it's ironic. But it's well established in law (and simple common sense) that harassment is determined by how the recipient feels, not the person makiing the comments

One thing that's been bothering me for some time is the casual use of the word jew in Eve to mean trader/industrialist. It's very widespread and it's derogatory. I've often seen it used in the context of people being angry about exploitative prices. "100 isk for AM small???" and someone replies "Shrug, Jews."

It's now so normal for many players and alliances that people are starting to forget it's potentially offensive.People used it constantly when I was in the old Northern Coalition. And it's become so widespread now. For example


http://www.evenews24.com/2012/03/28/leak-gsf-ceo-update-clutching-pearls-and-finger-wagging

I don't think he was trying to be offensive, he just uses the word because to him and everyone he plays Eve with, it's just the word for trader

It's possibly because I'm older. I was born in the 60s and influenced as a child by many people who had fought in the Second World War. Their view was that the war was completely just because of the Jewish issue and that antisemitism is profoundly wrong

It's a very out-of-date stereotype. In the Middle Ages there were prohibitions in the Christian and Muslim religions against usury. This meant that most bankers had to be of a different religion and in Europe they were generally jews

But now there's very little connection between jews and usury in the modern world. It's not Israel that caused the crash of 2008

I believe it originally came to Eve via Goons from the Something Awful boards where there's a tolerance for many things that people wouldn't want in Eve. The N-word is dropped as often as the word jew over there. But that's there and just because it's permitted there doesn't mean it should be permitted here.

Now you could try to defend it by claiming that it's meant light-heartedly, that it's a joke, that it's ironic. But it's well established in law (and simple common sense) that harassment is determined by how the recipient feels, not the person makiing the comments

It's not appropriate here and it worries me that it's gaining traction. So much so that when a player is trying to behave it slips out - he's forgotten it's an emotionally-charged word. In fact to some extent I had too, it was only when someone commented on my blog about Mittens using it that I thought this really has gone too far

I would like CCP to crack down, to issue temp bans for the use of the word jew in a derogatory way. And I don't just mean if someone complains I mean one day a player laughs about "jewing it up" and the next day they can't log in.

Recent events have shown that Eve's developed a locker room culture that's out of control and in some countries there are even legal implications to antisemitism.

And this is why harassment laws are rubbish.

The moral difference between the two is simple -- the tanks are there because the arab boys parents are bombing Israel with rockets. The rockets are indiscriminate, intended to kill everybody, women and children included. The tanks deployed by Israel are not meant to kill children but to stop the rockets. But of course, your ok with Israeli children being killed indiscriminately, just as your ok with arab murdering other arabs. Its only when Jews defend themselves that you get your panties in a bunch.

Funny how this thread ends up making the OP's point better than his original post does.

One wonders if some of these people are being intentionally incendiary simply to derail the discussion or have the thread locked. Sigh.

In the meantime, just ignore them and/or report the bad posts. No need to stoop to their level.

Wow you make a lot of assumptions about me for someone who doesn't want any assumptions made about them.

You see how this works people?

Suddenly I'm someone who is "ok with Israeli children being killed indiscriminately".

That is bullshit. I don't want to see anyone killed in any way shape or form.

Like I said, you use it (anti-discimination) as a weapon or a crutch, never a shield. Anyone who doesn't believe in a particular Politically Correct version ON THE DAY that YOU come up with, must be racist.

Go thrill yourself.

The only assumption about you that I make is that you are either a troll or an idiot. As for everything else - its derived from your one sided myopic viewpoint that you explicitly set forth. Its clear from your posts that when its jews who defend themselves from the violence of their neighbors you get a hard-on from the "injustice" of jews fighting back. Of course, when we look at Syria or Egypt, where the true colors of arab society are shown, you say nary a peep. Please just go crawl back under your rock.

This cracks me up. Tons of Eve players mock roleplayers. Eve players are accused of bad behavior, racist or mysoginistic behavior and they hide behind "that's my character."

No you're simply rude and unimaginative. Their is nothing imaginative about the terms, rapecage, jew, the use of racial terms to name fleets, etc... It's as if the neighborhood cats have been pooping in the sandbox and we are all pretending it's okay. Eve is hard. No one said it had to be rude. And too be honest what we say from behind the safety of our internet mask is probably what we really believe. Take a basic psychology class and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Go on keep using what ever language you want but don't pretend it's not a little sophmoric.

I am a Proud Hebrew call me jew if you like.

1. Running down 8-10 year olds in a tank isn't "defending oneself" from anything.
2. You already won the argument because I just linked the ToS for you so you can start reporting all these awful anti-semites who offend you.
3. I have not said anything about the jews, merely your interpretation of the so called "racism" being throw your way. There is no malice in the comments these people are making any more than me taking "I have a fat wallet" as a terrible comment against fat people. Perhaps I should report them too ?

Start with Goonwaffe, I will be avidly awaiting the outcome.

You sir are a moron. Last I checked the Jews have been there as long, if not longer, then your "natives." As for it being an apartheid nation - well, its funny how Israel being a democracy which allows its arab citizens to vote and be members of the government, gets tagged as racist when syria is actually killing its own citizens in the thousands and gets a pass from idiots such as yourself. Israel is a fortress surrounded by people that have no problem murdering their own in droves when it suits them. Ultimately its folk such as yourself who merely prove the double standard that is set for Israel and Jews in general.

Arab Jewes perhaps, not the Caucasian ones. Those are converts to a religion and in many cases plain old white folk claiming to be of one descent to reap the benefits granted to the special people.

DNA would suggest you are ignorant... the kazars were killed off/converted to Russian orthodox...

the germanic jews were first kicked out of england in the 12th century by edward the 1st and then in france a century later and then finally in spain in the 14th century by the invading christians kicking out the muslims and the jews... during this time Polish/Germanic city state kings invited the jewish refugees to go live in thier repective countries and this is how you end up with 700 years later germanic jews...

pretty much take an arab and put him in germany for 700 years and tell me how dark skinned he is...
dont be a jackass....

The fact that you say that Israel intentionally runs down 8 yr olds with tanks is a blood libel which is more then enough evidence of your hatred of Jews -- especially since your position is unbalanced with the indiscriminate rockets fired by the arabs which are intended to kill Jewish children. Sir, I hear your rock calling you. Please crawl back under it.

The bible didn't include a road map or dna to actually identify a Jew. But the world knows them by their deeds. As to your statement, after 700 years he wouldn't be Arab. Much like Jewes having been away for 2000 years suddenly claiming to be native Palestinian.

In the popular smartphone game, Words with Friends, you can not use the word Jew. That was a shame, because I totally had at least 666 times I could have used Jew for a triple line.

When exactly did the word Jew become so bad that you can't even say the word Jew anymore. What do we start calling Jewish people?

The OP and anybody supporting him are literally ********, free the hate from the word and its just a word, fear or hate the word and you give it strength and power.


Maybe what your overlooking is the fact that its you who's a racist, because you can't free your mind from the hate you associate with the word, whereas to the rest of us....


Its just a word.

You sir are a moron. Last I checked the Jews have been there as long, if not longer, then your "natives." As for it being an apartheid nation - well, its funny how Israel being a democracy which allows its arab citizens to vote and be members of the government, gets tagged as racist when syria is actually killing its own citizens in the thousands and gets a pass from idiots such as yourself. Israel is a fortress surrounded by people that have no problem murdering their own in droves when it suits them. Ultimately its folk such as yourself who merely prove the double standard that is set for Israel and Jews in general.

I find it sad that so many jewish people think the name of their race/religion/culture is a dirty word.

I would be proud of it. Damned best bankers in the world! heya!

srsly smart ppl ... for the most part.

I notice hardly anyone brings this crap up for "rednecks" or "cracker" or "whites"... ever...

I find it sad that so many jewish people think the name of their race/religion/culture is a dirty word.

I would be proud of it. Damned best bankers in the world! heya!

srsly smart ppl ... for the most part.

I notice hardly anyone brings this crap up for "rednecks" or "cracker" or "whites"... ever...

You sir are a moron. Last I checked the Jews have been there as long, if not longer, then your "natives." As for it being an apartheid nation - well, its funny how Israel being a democracy which allows its arab citizens to vote and be members of the government, gets tagged as racist when syria is actually killing its own citizens in the thousands and gets a pass from idiots such as yourself. Israel is a fortress surrounded by people that have no problem murdering their own in droves when it suits them. Ultimately its folk such as yourself who merely prove the double standard that is set for Israel and Jews in general.

The fact that you called it "defending yourselves" shows how indoctrinated you are.

Just because your TV tells you something doesn't mean it's true.

And just because you repeat it doesn't mean we need to buy.

I find it amusing also that the killing of innocents on your soil is defense. However the killing of innocents in other countries by you is also defense.

From wikipedia:
Blood libel (also blood accusation[1][2]) is a false accusation or claim[3][4][5] that religious minorities, usually Jews, murder children to use their blood in certain aspects of their religious rituals and holidays.[1][2][6] Historically, these claimsGÇöalongside those of well poisoning and host desecrationGÇöhave been a major theme in European persecution of Jews.[4]

Pretty sure I wasn't saying anything of the like and had no idea what you were even talking about until I looked it up. I think you go way too far in your accusations and mimicry.

Your obvious hatred and need to use your religion as a sword puts you right in the same bin as osama bin laden in my book.

Seinfeld rocks, he knows not to take it seriously, he's proudly jewish and has no need of the cheap trickery you take part in.

You are a disgrace to your people.

The worst part is you can't see it.

You sir are a disgrace to humanity -- the fact that you cant see it is not the worst part, the worst part is that you hide behind the internet and say things that if you utter in rl would get you pummlled.

Oh and as for Israel -- when you say that Isreal is going out of its way to kill children you are committing a blood libel.

Please the fact that you claim that Jews arent true semeits is enough to show the racisim behind your hand. Also your knowledge of the history of the area is woefully weak -- In 48 it was the arabs who attacked the jews and yes the jews had been there just as long as the arabs -- but we know that for you its ok when an arab kills a jew but if a jew fights back well then its a problem. As for syria -- it is certainly is the crux of your issues -- way the arabs treat each other is on display for the world to see, its also the way the arabs treat the jews -- the fact that you have no indignation for the arbas establishes that you really dont give a **** for semites unless they of course happen to be killing jews. So spare me your nonsense and stfu