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Jet Aeon
Two Smoking Barrels NightSong Directorate
17
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Posted - 2012.03.31 20:52:00 -
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Adacia Calla wrote:He ****** up. He's paying for it now. He can run for CSM next election.
Stop. Making. Threads. About. This. "Deal with it." I believe this is a quote from The Mittani himself. Maybe you should take his advice?
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Kalathia Eginald
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2012.03.31 21:15:00 -
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Oh joy another thread on this as if we don't have enough on this matter already
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Desert Ice78
Cobra Kai Dojo WHY so Seri0Us
89
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Posted - 2012.03.31 21:19:00 -
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No. I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
Peter Raptor
Knights of Gallifrae
42
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Posted - 2012.03.31 21:21:00 -
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Spenser for Hire wrote:I totally canGÇÖt believe I reactivated my account in order to speak out on behalf of The Mittani, but seriously, DonGÇÖt you think you guys have gone a bit too far???
There is no doubt that what The Mittani did was reprehensible. There is no doubt that what he did constitutes an example of GÇÿCyber-Bullying.GÇÖ
It is also equally evident that he doesnGÇÖt deserve the lynching he got.
And no one is pointing a finger at CCP. CCP not only bears responsibility for what happened, CCP is to Blame for what happened. And CCP should step up, man up, shoulder the blame and stop allowing a player to be lynched by an angry internet lynch mob.
CCP is to blame, not just responsible, for what happened because CCP encouraged and incited players, attendees of Fanfest to get very drunk. CCP not only advertised GÇ£Pub CrawlsGÇ¥ as part of Fanfest, they also advertised that CCP employees, Devs, residents of Iceland, would be leading the pub crawls. A major attraction of the Fanfest was GÇÿgetting drunk with the Devs.GÇÖ
ItGÇÖs the Culture of the CCP fanfest that is to blame.
Certainly, we all remember Alliance Tournaments, in which one day a Tournament commentator like Varrone appears alert, energetic, talkative and knowledgeable, making us all proud of the word GÇ£RPGÇ¥ and the next day heGÇÖs wearing a black-cap, holding his head with his hand, talking softly and avoiding the camera because heGÇÖs got a massive hangover that normally he would have had to take two days to sleep off.
Correct me if I am wrong, but The Mittani is from America. The land of Mothers Against Drunk Driving, where every advertisement of alcohol includes the phrase, GÇÿDrink responsibly.GÇÖ where powerful lobby groups fight, and win, over the placement of billboards that advertise alcohol at Major League baseball games. Where every major holiday includes legions of police randomly testing drivers for alcohol use. And this list could be extended.
The Mittani comes from a culture where the attitude toward alcohol is very different. No American corporation would license drinking and getting drunk the way that CCP does, for fear of the powerful anti-alcohol lobby groups in america.
Meanwhile, perhaps because CCP doesnGÇÖt have to fear Anti-alcohol lobby groups, CCP is stating that its going to address this problem and prevent it from happening again by exercising tighter control over the Alliance presentations. In other words, NOTHING. The presentations werenGÇÖt the problem, the Alcohol was/is.
Unless CCP curbs its Alcohol encouragement, weGÇÖre just going to watch another player, other players, have Alcohol induced meltdowns in other CCP events.
The Mittani was drawn into the alcohol-abusing culture of the CCP fanfests. The Mittani is a victim of the alcohol-abusing culture of the CCP fanfests.
CCP stop the lynching. Take the Blame. And give the Mittani back his position on the CSM.
Post-Script. Not writting as though I'm an insider, just as an (off and on) EVE online player who has access to the forums.
I personally think he got off too lightly.
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Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
78
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Posted - 2012.03.31 21:28:00 -
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Kalathia Eginald wrote:Oh joy another thread on this as if we don't have enough on this matter already
Correct, we dont, when the Mittens supporters think this isnt a big thing and even Mittens himself only thinks he got in trouble cause someone mislabelled (in his and only his warped view) this incident as cyber bullying (which it was). https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1052586#post1052586-á thats why "EVE is dying" and you only have yourself to blame -á |
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
665
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Posted - 2012.03.31 21:31:00 -
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Richard Aiel wrote:Kalathia Eginald wrote:Oh joy another thread on this as if we don't have enough on this matter already
Correct, we dont, when the Mittens supporters think this isnt a big thing and even Mittens himself only thinks he got in trouble cause someone mislabelled (in his and only his warped view) this incident as cyber bullying (which it was).
The ones keeping it alive and pushing it past its life expectancy are the goons and mittens himself now.
They are the ones damaging CCP long run yet again.
Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
78
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Posted - 2012.03.31 21:38:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Richard Aiel wrote:Kalathia Eginald wrote:Oh joy another thread on this as if we don't have enough on this matter already
Correct, we dont, when the Mittens supporters think this isnt a big thing and even Mittens himself only thinks he got in trouble cause someone mislabelled (in his and only his warped view) this incident as cyber bullying (which it was). The ones keeping it alive and pushing it past its life expectancy are the goons and mittens himself now. They are the ones damaging CCP long run yet again.
we are here to destroy your game
isnt that it?
and mittens dares to play the "youre hurting ccp" card https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1052586#post1052586-á thats why "EVE is dying" and you only have yourself to blame -á |
Amity Lane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
190
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Posted - 2012.03.31 21:48:00 -
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Richard Aiel wrote:Kalathia Eginald wrote:Oh joy another thread on this as if we don't have enough on this matter already
Correct, we dont Ok, I'm curious...when will it be enough?
When Mittani is gone from EVE forever? When he goes to prison? When he clothes himself in rags, castrates himself, and throws salt over his head in penance? When CCP closes down EVE in deference to gaming media, Sony, and/or threats of lawsuits?
I'm genuinely bewildered. What is it that the community wants at this point? We know his position, we know CCP's position, we know the position of the rest of the CSM, we know the position of the vocal portion of the EVE community that posts on this forum.
How does this end, exactly? It has to eventually... |
Propmod
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.31 21:54:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Shut up. Nobody cares. beat me to it. |
Commander Flasheart
Fox Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2012.03.31 21:58:00 -
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@ OP:
I have stayed away from replying to any threads on this subject recently, but this I feel requires addressing.
The main point of your thread is "this is alcohol's fault, nothing like this could happen if CCP did not allow alcohol at fanfest". This, as a premise, is severely flawed, alcohol does not (contrary to what some believe) alter personalities or cause people to say things that they would otherwise find abhorrent, and blaming a person's action's whilst drunk on alcohol (one's own or someone else's) is immature and incorrect.
The policy of allowing drinking at fanfest did not cause the PR issues that CCP has been fighting recently, nor do they actively encourage attendees to become severely inebriated (pub crawls are a not uncommon method of socialising, and encourage people to go out, meet others and offer an informal setting to chat to the devs) they are not stating "come along and we will force you to drink until you throw up", the amount each person drinks (if anything) is up to that individual.
Regardless of the setting, everyone is responsible for their own actions, and even if CCP did ban alcohol at fanfest, it is unlikely to prevent the odd player getting out of hand and misbehaving.
My 2p anyway. |
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MoyO zOlotse
State War Academy Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2012.03.31 22:05:00 -
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Goonalt posting justifications why dear leader was a moron and got rightfully banned, laughing it off as a culture of drunkedness.
Newsflash for you people who have no morals and take internet spacehips as moar serious bizness then real life:
Nobody else, who got as drunk and drunker then the banned one, had an issue with running their mouth and enjoying themselves.
See how hard that was?
So now you know you wasted your money to reactivate, have a good laugh with us. Its just a video game, and Muttens got out gamed, hardcore style. Pubbies 1 Goonies Zilch
p.s. can haz stuffings?
Also I support the petition going around stating for the permaneant ban of this miscreant. 200% signed! |
Berendas
Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2012.03.31 22:07:00 -
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@ OP
No. |
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
123
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Posted - 2012.03.31 22:13:00 -
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Someone get out the Picard pic with his head in his hand. I don't know how to do it. Thanks.
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Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2012.03.31 22:16:00 -
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Spenser for Hire wrote:Lot of words without even reading The Mittani's appology.
CCP didn't take the chair from him. He passed on it himself. So you are saying that you don't want The Mittani to make his own mind and listen to someone who can't even read and comprehend what is written.
You shouldn't have wasted returning to write stuff you have absolutley no knowledge of.
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Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2012.03.31 23:44:00 -
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Amity Lane wrote:Richard Aiel wrote:Kalathia Eginald wrote:Oh joy another thread on this as if we don't have enough on this matter already
Correct, we dont Ok, I'm curious...when will it be enough? When Mittani is gone from EVE forever? .
Commander Flasheart wrote:@ OP:
I have stayed away from replying to any threads on this subject recently, but this I feel requires addressing.
The main point of your thread is "this is alcohol's fault, nothing like this could happen if CCP did not allow alcohol at fanfest". This, as a premise, is severely flawed, alcohol does not (contrary to what some believe) alter personalities or cause people to say things that they would otherwise find abhorrent, and blaming a person's action's whilst drunk on alcohol (one's own or someone else's) is immature and incorrect.
So Mittens' defense is utter bullshit
Thx for the support
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CCP didn't take the chair from him. He passed on it himself. So you are saying that you don't want The Mittani to make his own mind and listen to someone who can't even read and comprehend what is written.
You shouldn't have wasted returning to write stuff you have absolutley no knowledge of.
Yeah, like I posted elsewhere or here, I dont remember anymore... Mittens just waits a few and everything is reset. The next CSM he's allowed to get back in on itll be a landslide, and then, HEY LOOK nothing changed, there was no penalty essentially, everything nicely swept under the rug.
People's REAL LIVES have been destroyed for less when they put themselves in the public eye as a politician. Saying a permaban from a video game is too harsh is the highest order of crap here. I personally think the only reason there wasnt a permaban is if Mittans gets permaed, Goons would cause so much havoc he'd get unbanned eventually. Theres even precedent for them to remove such bans. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1052586#post1052586-á thats why "EVE is dying" and you only have yourself to blame -á |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
129
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Posted - 2012.04.01 00:23:00 -
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This horse has really been beaten to death. Give it up and move on. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |
Grumpy Owly
546
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Posted - 2012.04.01 00:25:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:This horse has really been beaten to death. Give it up and move on.
Could say the horse hit the glue factory since these topics are almost sticky.
Bounty Hunting for CSM7
It's just criminal - Smuggling |
Anthemius Heb
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2012.04.01 00:34:00 -
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He forgot that he only has power in EVE Online. The alcohol blurred the line between EVE and real life, where he's just another person and his actions have consequences. The whole thing is a good lesson. Sometimes people get way too big for their boots. You get powerful in a game of internet spaceships, get a couple of thousand followers (and I mean a couple of thousand, nowhere near 10,058), drink some alcohol and think you're a big man in real life and get slapped the **** back down to reality where you live with the rest of us. |
Lane Shift
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.04.01 00:37:00 -
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Spenser for Hire wrote:I totally canGÇÖt believe I reactivated my account in order to speak out on behalf of The Mittani, but seriously, DonGÇÖt you think you guys have gone a bit too far???
STFU mittins. You are pathetic. You should be in jail. |
Berke Negri
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2012.04.01 00:40:00 -
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says the guy posting from his npc alt |
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Bergon Darek
3
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Posted - 2012.04.01 01:19:00 -
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Sorry, but "The Mittani" is not the one being punished here. The Mittani is a space pirate, and the leader of the largest bloc of space pirates in the game, but at the end of the day he's pixels on a screen. Toons don't serve on the CSM, people do, in this case one Alexander Gianturco. Alex is the one being punished for being a public drunken douchebag, and he's said in various places that he doesn't feel the punishment is out of line.
Put another way, he did the crime, and now he gets to do the time. He seems to be okay with it, so why aren't you? |
Weiland Taur
Ceptic Innovations Rebel Alliance of New Eden
52
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Posted - 2012.04.01 01:33:00 -
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Seriously OP, just stop. Desub and stop. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
145
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Posted - 2012.04.01 01:36:00 -
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Obvious goon is obvious... [quote=CCP Guard] I'm running out of original ways to tell you guys to stop. [/quote} |
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
217
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Posted - 2012.04.01 02:22:00 -
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Chairman of my heart~ |
Sidiion
Me Shoot Laser You Eye
0
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Posted - 2012.04.01 02:35:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:ex-Chairman of my heart~
fixed for ya
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Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
217
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Posted - 2012.04.01 02:37:00 -
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Sidiion wrote:Aiden Andraste wrote:ex-Chairman of the CSM. Still chairman of my heart~ fixed for ya nuh uhn. |
Z'Pax
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.04.01 03:26:00 -
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@OP
So erm.. was he drunk when he made the pre prepared slides? |
Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2012.04.01 05:35:00 -
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Z'Pax wrote:@OP
So erm.. was he drunk when he made the pre prepared slides?
also, were the CCP guys that approved those slides drunk when they approved them? I could be wrong but the slides showed the suicidal intent.... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1052586#post1052586-á thats why "EVE is dying" and you only have yourself to blame -á |
Talia Nachtigall
Avant-Garde Monastery G00DFELLAS
24
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Posted - 2012.04.01 07:11:00 -
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@OP:
Absolutely not. Personally I think he should have been permanently banned from the game. 30 days is not enough. Furthermore as a legitimate subscriber to this game I strongly object to even the remote possibility that he be allowed back onto the CSM now or at any time in the future. Don't pray for my soul. ;) |
RougeOperator
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
687
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Posted - 2012.04.01 07:28:00 -
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Richard Aiel wrote:Z'Pax wrote:@OP
So erm.. was he drunk when he made the pre prepared slides? also, were the CCP guys that approved those slides drunk when they approved them? I could be wrong but the slides showed the suicidal intent....
Looks like the slides had to Omit the guys name to be used.
FOR A REASON.
Then he goes and not only says his name. But encourages others to harass him to suicide. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
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